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1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
About to finish my debate with Yassine.. Looking to to yet more religious debates. I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals, I am especially interested in debating Qu'ranic composition and inerrancy (or lack thereof), but I'll do virtually any philosophical resolution.

I'll also do most resolutions on devils advocate, I am pretty sure I will give a better argument for the theist side than most theists so this is a good opportunity for atheists to have a good debate too.

So, who is in?
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1/12/2015 5:26:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:
About to finish my debate with Yassine.. Looking to to yet more religious debates. I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals, I am especially interested in debating Qu'ranic composition and inerrancy (or lack thereof), but I'll do virtually any philosophical resolution.

I'll also do most resolutions on devils advocate, I am pretty sure I will give a better argument for the theist side than most theists so this is a good opportunity for atheists to have a good debate too.

So, who is in?

I'm interested. I'll just need to figure out a topic I would have a chance of winning against you!
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1/12/2015 6:07:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2015 5:26:27 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:
About to finish my debate with Yassine.. Looking to to yet more religious debates. I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals, I am especially interested in debating Qu'ranic composition and inerrancy (or lack thereof), but I'll do virtually any philosophical resolution.

I'll also do most resolutions on devils advocate, I am pretty sure I will give a better argument for the theist side than most theists so this is a good opportunity for atheists to have a good debate too.

So, who is in?

I'm interested. I'll just need to figure out a topic I would have a chance of winning against you!

I am pretty sure you would most likely win most scholarly/history debate topics, so pick one of them!
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1/13/2015 5:24:17 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:
About to finish my debate with Yassine.. Looking to to yet more religious debates. I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals, I am especially interested in debating Qu'ranic composition and inerrancy (or lack thereof), but I'll do virtually any philosophical resolution.

I'll also do most resolutions on devils advocate, I am pretty sure I will give a better argument for the theist side than most theists so this is a good opportunity for atheists to have a good debate too.

So, who is in?

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1/13/2015 7:29:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/13/2015 5:24:17 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:
About to finish my debate with Yassine.. Looking to to yet more religious debates. I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals, I am especially interested in debating Qu'ranic composition and inerrancy (or lack thereof), but I'll do virtually any philosophical resolution.

I'll also do most resolutions on devils advocate, I am pretty sure I will give a better argument for the theist side than most theists so this is a good opportunity for atheists to have a good debate too.

So, who is in?

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1/13/2015 9:46:58 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:

I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals,...

Why not morals?
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1/13/2015 9:47:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/13/2015 9:46:58 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:

I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals,...

Why not morals?

Bored of them, plus I am a nihilist...
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1/13/2015 9:51:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/13/2015 9:47:54 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/13/2015 9:46:58 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:

I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals,...

Why not morals?

Bored of them, plus I am a nihilist...

Well then, playing devils advocate with morality should suit you.

Are you sure you're bored? Or is it that you know you cannot defend against objective morality?
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1/13/2015 9:55:01 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/13/2015 9:51:25 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 1/13/2015 9:47:54 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/13/2015 9:46:58 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:

I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals,...

Why not morals?

Bored of them, plus I am a nihilist...

Well then, playing devils advocate with morality should suit you.

Are you sure you're bored? Or is it that you know you cannot defend against objective morality?

Cannot defend against objective morality? What kind of question is that? I have done tonnes of debates on the notion of it and moral nihilism, you only need to check my debate history to see that much.
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1/13/2015 10:51:01 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:
About to finish my debate with Yassine.. Looking to to yet more religious debates. I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals, I am especially interested in debating Qu'ranic composition and inerrancy (or lack thereof), but I'll do virtually any philosophical resolution.

I'll also do most resolutions on devils advocate, I am pretty sure I will give a better argument for the theist side than most theists so this is a good opportunity for atheists to have a good debate too.

So, who is in?

Since I am a muslim, I can only debate properly in Islamic Topics, so here are my suggestions:

- Islamic Theology. (which I doubt you'd know much about, it's a whole different world)

- Preservation of the Qur'an.

- Preservation of the Hadith.

- Contradictions/Errors in the Qur'an.

- Violence in the Qur'an (or in the Hadith).

- Sexism/Racism in the Qur'an (or in Islam in general).

- Polygyny/Polyandry in Islam.

- Historicity of Muhammad.

- Prophethood of Muhammad.

- The Theory of the Soul (according to Islam).

- The Jinn (according to Islam).

- Slavery in Islam.

>>> Or any Islamic subject for that matter.
>>> You can pick from each separately or we can do two or three points in the same debate.
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- The Qur'an We Have Today is Not What Muhammad Dictated Verbatim. Vs. @Envisage:
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1/13/2015 11:09:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2015 6:07:40 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/12/2015 5:26:27 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:
About to finish my debate with Yassine.. Looking to to yet more religious debates. I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals, I am especially interested in debating Qu'ranic composition and inerrancy (or lack thereof), but I'll do virtually any philosophical resolution.

I'll also do most resolutions on devils advocate, I am pretty sure I will give a better argument for the theist side than most theists so this is a good opportunity for atheists to have a good debate too.

So, who is in?

I'm interested. I'll just need to figure out a topic I would have a chance of winning against you!

I am pretty sure you would most likely win most scholarly/history debate topics, so pick one of them!

Sounds like a hustle to me! ;-). I would be interested in something along the lines of the KJV is a poor translation of the Bible (I haven't exactly figured out how to word this), or according to the Bible, Adam and eve are not figurative, or some of the prophecies if you like. Feel free to tweak any of these and get back to me.
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1/13/2015 12:12:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/13/2015 9:55:01 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/13/2015 9:51:25 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 1/13/2015 9:47:54 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/13/2015 9:46:58 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:

I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals,...

Why not morals?

Bored of them, plus I am a nihilist...

Well then, playing devils advocate with morality should suit you.

Are you sure you're bored? Or is it that you know you cannot defend against objective morality?

Cannot defend against objective morality? What kind of question is that? I have done tonnes of debates on the notion of it and moral nihilism, you only need to check my debate history to see that much.

I meant "successfully" debate against. And no, friends voting for you in a formal debate does not make you successful. But ok, I accept your answers. Good luck.
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1/13/2015 12:52:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/13/2015 9:55:01 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/13/2015 9:51:25 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 1/13/2015 9:47:54 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/13/2015 9:46:58 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:

I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals,...

Why not morals?

Bored of them, plus I am a nihilist...

Well then, playing devils advocate with morality should suit you.

Are you sure you're bored? Or is it that you know you cannot defend against objective morality?

Cannot defend against objective morality? What kind of question is that? I have done tonnes of debates on the notion of it and moral nihilism, you only need to check my debate history to see that much.

...and I am open to other suggestions, as well
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1/13/2015 1:51:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/13/2015 12:12:02 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 1/13/2015 9:55:01 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/13/2015 9:51:25 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 1/13/2015 9:47:54 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/13/2015 9:46:58 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:

I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals,...

Why not morals?

Bored of them, plus I am a nihilist...

Well then, playing devils advocate with morality should suit you.

Are you sure you're bored? Or is it that you know you cannot defend against objective morality?

Cannot defend against objective morality? What kind of question is that? I have done tonnes of debates on the notion of it and moral nihilism, you only need to check my debate history to see that much.

I meant "successfully" debate against. And no, friends voting for you in a formal debate does not make you successful. But ok, I accept your answers. Good luck.

Did you want to actually propose a debate topic or did you just come to take pot-shots?

If it's the latter, then you are being an arse.
If it was the former then propose a topic

You do also understand I have done numerous Devils advocate debates as well, right (where I argue for the theist position)? More than you have done genuine debates. Have you got anything if substance to say or are you just on DDO to try to make low-blows?
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1/13/2015 11:31:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/13/2015 7:29:22 AM, SNP1 wrote:
At 1/13/2015 5:24:17 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:
About to finish my debate with Yassine.. Looking to to yet more religious debates. I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals, I am especially interested in debating Qu'ranic composition and inerrancy (or lack thereof), but I'll do virtually any philosophical resolution.

I'll also do most resolutions on devils advocate, I am pretty sure I will give a better argument for the theist side than most theists so this is a good opportunity for atheists to have a good debate too.

So, who is in?

A proud man doesn't know how proud he really is. To everyone else, he's only a fool.

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I'm not pot and I could care less if you're a kettle.
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1/14/2015 9:50:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/13/2015 1:51:26 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/13/2015 12:12:02 PM, ethang5 wrote:

I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals,...

Why not morals?

Bored of them, plus I am a nihilist...

Well then, playing devils advocate with morality should suit you.

Are you sure you're bored? Or is it that you know you cannot defend against objective morality?

Cannot defend against objective morality? What kind of question is that? I have done tonnes of debates on the notion of it and moral nihilism, you only need to check my debate history to see that much.

I meant "successfully" debate against. And no, friends voting for you in a formal debate does not make you successful. But ok, I accept your answers. Good luck.

Did you want to actually propose a debate topic or did you just come to take pot-shots?

I did not take any pot-shots at you. I asked you a question and you answered. No need to be so thin-skinned.

If it's the latter, then you are being an arse.

Let me guess. You are British, but have lived in America for a while? Brits are generally not vulgar, but if they hang around Americans long enough.... In which state did/do you reside?

If it was the former then propose a topic

I came to do neither. Formal debates here are not for people who truly like other people and simply want to engage because they find other people and their thoughts interesting.

But also your responses here show you are way too touchy for real debate. You seem to want to show everyone how great you are at debate. I only want to talk and grow by being exposed to what you believe.

You do also understand I have done numerous Devils advocate debates as well, right (where I argue for the theist position)? More than you have done genuine debates.

A genuine debate is where others vote for the "winner"? I concede the point then.

Have you got anything if substance to say or are you just on DDO to try to make low-blows?

The answer apparently depends on the size of the ego of whom you ask.
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1/14/2015 11:19:07 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:
About to finish my debate with Yassine.. Looking to to yet more religious debates. I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals, I am especially interested in debating Qu'ranic composition and inerrancy (or lack thereof), but I'll do virtually any philosophical resolution.

I'll also do most resolutions on devils advocate, I am pretty sure I will give a better argument for the theist side than most theists so this is a good opportunity for atheists to have a good debate too.

So, who is in?

I'm interested in picking up another debate. If you're not interested in the subjects I suggested, I am open to other topics. I would even be interested in gun control or abortion.
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1/16/2015 2:20:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I might want to debate something related to pascal's wager or religious experience.
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1/16/2015 4:13:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/16/2015 2:20:10 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
I might want to debate something related to pascal's wager or religious experience.

Give example resolutions and the side you want to take? I can do either.
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1/16/2015 10:55:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/16/2015 4:13:22 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/16/2015 2:20:10 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
I might want to debate something related to pascal's wager or religious experience.

Give example resolutions and the side you want to take? I can do either.

With the wager, something along the lines of believing in God is good for you, so most people have a good reason to believe in God. That is distinct from saying that most people have an all-things-considered reason(s) for believing in God and thus SHOULD be theists based on the wager (the may have other, better reasons to be a theist or non-theist). I'd be pro.

Or with religious experience I'd say that the argument from religious experience provides good reason for believing in God.
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1/16/2015 11:24:01 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/16/2015 10:55:55 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 1/16/2015 4:13:22 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/16/2015 2:20:10 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
I might want to debate something related to pascal's wager or religious experience.

Give example resolutions and the side you want to take? I can do either.

With the wager, something along the lines of believing in God is good for you, so most people have a good reason to believe in God. That is distinct from saying that most people have an all-things-considered reason(s) for believing in God and thus SHOULD be theists based on the wager (the may have other, better reasons to be a theist or non-theist). I'd be pro.

Or with religious experience I'd say that the argument from religious experience provides good reason for believing in God.

Probably the religious experience one. I will send you the challenge in a couple days? Is God going to be defined in this debate?
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1/16/2015 8:10:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/16/2015 11:24:01 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/16/2015 10:55:55 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 1/16/2015 4:13:22 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/16/2015 2:20:10 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
I might want to debate something related to pascal's wager or religious experience.

Give example resolutions and the side you want to take? I can do either.

With the wager, something along the lines of believing in God is good for you, so most people have a good reason to believe in God. That is distinct from saying that most people have an all-things-considered reason(s) for believing in God and thus SHOULD be theists based on the wager (the may have other, better reasons to be a theist or non-theist). I'd be pro.

Or with religious experience I'd say that the argument from religious experience provides good reason for believing in God.

Probably the religious experience one. I will send you the challenge in a couple days? Is God going to be defined in this debate?

Okay! That's fine. :)
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1/16/2015 8:27:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2015 4:24:00 PM, Envisage wrote:
About to finish my debate with Yassine.. Looking to to yet more religious debates. I will debate virtually any resolution that doesn't relate to morals, I am especially interested in debating Qu'ranic composition and inerrancy (or lack thereof), but I'll do virtually any philosophical resolution.

I'll also do most resolutions on devils advocate, I am pretty sure I will give a better argument for the theist side than most theists so this is a good opportunity for atheists to have a good debate too.

So, who is in?

I'd be willing to debate something with you Envisage. Not in a while though.
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1/16/2015 8:27:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/16/2015 11:24:01 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/16/2015 10:55:55 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 1/16/2015 4:13:22 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/16/2015 2:20:10 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
I might want to debate something related to pascal's wager or religious experience.

Give example resolutions and the side you want to take? I can do either.

With the wager, something along the lines of believing in God is good for you, so most people have a good reason to believe in God. That is distinct from saying that most people have an all-things-considered reason(s) for believing in God and thus SHOULD be theists based on the wager (the may have other, better reasons to be a theist or non-theist). I'd be pro.

Or with religious experience I'd say that the argument from religious experience provides good reason for believing in God.

Probably the religious experience one. I will send you the challenge in a couple days? Is God going to be defined in this debate?

By God I mean a supremely powerful, all-loving, and personal ground of being.
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