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GeoLaureate8
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6/20/2010 12:05:55 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Just saw this on History Channel. A man endured the "Burial of the Warrior" which is a Toltek ritual where you are buried underground to embrace the earth and death, and resurrect the next day.

It is said, that when you resurrect, you will be a changed person after your death-like experience and reflections.

You can schedule your own Toltek burial from this website.

-- http://www.toltecas.com...

On a side note, how do you plan to die?

In a coffin or a cremation?
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
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6/20/2010 12:19:43 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
On a side note, how do you plan to die?

In a coffin or a cremation?

By the way, I would rather not die in a coffin or by cremation, lmao. ;)
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6/20/2010 12:20:15 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:18:57 AM, FREEDO wrote:
What happens to my body is of absolutely no concern to me.

After I'm dead, I mean
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6/20/2010 12:23:25 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:18:57 AM, FREEDO wrote:
What happens to my body is of absolutely no concern to me.

You are your body.
I could give a f about no haters as long as my ishes love me.
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6/20/2010 12:24:29 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:23:25 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:18:57 AM, FREEDO wrote:
What happens to my body is of absolutely no concern to me.

You are your body.

Which is why I corrected myself, if you'll see.
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Vi_Veri
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6/20/2010 12:26:01 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:24:29 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:23:25 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:18:57 AM, FREEDO wrote:
What happens to my body is of absolutely no concern to me.

You are your body.

Which is why I corrected myself, if you'll see.

Do you own anything of sentimental value?
I could give a f about no haters as long as my ishes love me.
Korashk
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6/20/2010 12:29:10 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:05:55 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
On a side note, how do you plan to die?

In a coffin or a cremation?

I don't plan on dying.
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6/20/2010 12:31:54 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:26:01 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:24:29 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:23:25 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:18:57 AM, FREEDO wrote:
What happens to my body is of absolutely no concern to me.

You are your body.

Which is why I corrected myself, if you'll see.

Do you own anything of sentimental value?

Sure, but I don't see the point of burying me with it.
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6/20/2010 12:32:43 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:29:10 AM, Korashk wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:05:55 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
On a side note, how do you plan to die?

In a coffin or a cremation?

I don't plan on dying.

It's possible you could be onto something there.
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Vi_Veri
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6/20/2010 12:34:28 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:31:54 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:26:01 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:24:29 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:23:25 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:18:57 AM, FREEDO wrote:
What happens to my body is of absolutely no concern to me.

You are your body.

Which is why I corrected myself, if you'll see.

Do you own anything of sentimental value?

Sure, but I don't see the point of burying me with it.

Um, not burying you with your thing of sentiment.... I would think that if you live all your life as your body that you would give it a respectful resting place. That is what I mean by sentimental value.
I could give a f about no haters as long as my ishes love me.
GeoLaureate8
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6/20/2010 12:35:34 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:32:43 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:29:10 AM, Korashk wrote:
I don't plan on dying.

It's possible you could be onto something there.

I think he's implying he will die spontaneously, which, of course I will too. But after I'm dead, I plan to be cremated.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
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-- Frederic Bastiat
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6/20/2010 12:37:51 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I'm going to pay crazy $$$ to be put in one of those cryogenic freezing centers. I don't wanna die.

Living value > 0.
Death value = 0.
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Korashk
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6/20/2010 12:37:52 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:35:34 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:32:43 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:29:10 AM, Korashk wrote:
I don't plan on dying.

It's possible you could be onto something there.

I think he's implying he will die spontaneously, which, of course I will too. But after I'm dead, I plan to be cremated.

No, I plan on having my life-span be prolonged indefinitely through advances in medical and computer technology.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
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6/20/2010 12:38:26 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:35:34 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:32:43 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:29:10 AM, Korashk wrote:
I don't plan on dying.

It's possible you could be onto something there.

I think he's implying he will die spontaneously, which, of course I will too. But after I'm dead, I plan to be cremated.

I just think he means that he doesn't plan on dying ;)
I could give a f about no haters as long as my ishes love me.
mattrodstrom
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6/20/2010 12:38:46 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:35:34 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:32:43 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:29:10 AM, Korashk wrote:
I don't plan on dying.

It's possible you could be onto something there.

I think he's implying he will die spontaneously, which, of course I will too. But after I'm dead, I plan to be cremated.

Personally I'm a bit sentimental about properly rotting in the ground...

But cremations gotta be A LOT cheaper... so I betcha I'll prolly go cremation.
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6/20/2010 12:39:24 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:37:52 AM, Korashk wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:35:34 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:32:43 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:29:10 AM, Korashk wrote:
I don't plan on dying.

It's possible you could be onto something there.

I think he's implying he will die spontaneously, which, of course I will too. But after I'm dead, I plan to be cremated.

No, I plan on having my life-span be prolonged indefinitely through advances in medical and computer technology.

Bingo, 10 points for Vi
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mattrodstrom
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6/20/2010 12:40:21 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:29:10 AM, Korashk wrote:
I don't plan on dying.

neither do I... But we both shall.
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
GeoLaureate8
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6/20/2010 12:41:49 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:37:52 AM, Korashk wrote:

No, I plan on having my life-span be prolonged indefinitely through advances in medical and computer technology.

You may prolong your life, but you will still die. Everything eventually decays. No scientific, medical, or technological advance will change that, because the elements themselves are subject to the same fate of decay, no matter how they are manipulated.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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6/20/2010 12:41:54 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:34:28 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:31:54 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:26:01 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:24:29 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:23:25 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:18:57 AM, FREEDO wrote:
What happens to my body is of absolutely no concern to me.

You are your body.

Which is why I corrected myself, if you'll see.

Do you own anything of sentimental value?

Sure, but I don't see the point of burying me with it.

Um, not burying you with your thing of sentiment.... I would think that if you live all your life as your body that you would give it a respectful resting place. That is what I mean by sentimental value.

How can anything be sentimental to me when I'm dead?

Dig a ditch and kick me in.
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6/20/2010 12:43:11 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:05:55 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Just saw this on History Channel. A man endured the "Burial of the Warrior" which is a Toltek ritual where you are buried underground to embrace the earth and death, and resurrect the next day.

It is said, that when you resurrect, you will be a changed person after your death-like experience and reflections.

You can schedule your own Toltek burial from this website.

-- http://www.toltecas.com...

I'll do it for free, if Freedo's interested.

On a side note, how do you plan to die?

In a coffin or a cremation?

Hmm, hopefully I'll be dead before then. Neither way sounds like a particularly pleasant way to go.
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6/20/2010 12:53:09 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:41:49 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:37:52 AM, Korashk wrote:

No, I plan on having my life-span be prolonged indefinitely through advances in medical and computer technology.

You may prolong your life, but you will still die. Everything eventually decays. No scientific, medical, or technological advance will change that, because the elements themselves are subject to the same fate of decay, no matter how they are manipulated.

My body will eventually decay, sure, but that doesn't mean anything. All your body is is a case for your brain, all your brain does is interpret electrical impulses, like a supercomputer. Therefore I don't think that it's an unreasonable expectation to think that in the future there will be computers able to store consciousness. That's what I want, to essentially become an energy-based life form that lives in a computer.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
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6/20/2010 12:55:51 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:53:09 AM, Korashk wrote:

My body will eventually decay, sure, but that doesn't mean anything. All your body is is a case for your brain, all your brain does is interpret electrical impulses, like a supercomputer. Therefore I don't think that it's an unreasonable expectation to think that in the future there will be computers able to store consciousness. That's what I want, to essentially become an energy-based life form that lives in a computer.

Unless there's a lot more to it, that sounds downright depressing.
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6/20/2010 12:56:37 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:53:09 AM, Korashk wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:41:49 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:37:52 AM, Korashk wrote:

No, I plan on having my life-span be prolonged indefinitely through advances in medical and computer technology.

You may prolong your life, but you will still die. Everything eventually decays. No scientific, medical, or technological advance will change that, because the elements themselves are subject to the same fate of decay, no matter how they are manipulated.

My body will eventually decay, sure, but that doesn't mean anything. All your body is is a case for your brain, all your brain does is interpret electrical impulses, like a supercomputer. Therefore I don't think that it's an unreasonable expectation to think that in the future there will be computers able to store consciousness. That's what I want, to essentially become an energy-based life form that lives in a computer.

I think it's a good possibility too. On the news I heard them say we could possibly be the first generation to live forever. Dunno what truth there is to that though. But just think what technology we will have in 80 years from now. JUST THINK. Holyshate man.
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6/20/2010 12:57:15 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:55:51 AM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:53:09 AM, Korashk wrote:

My body will eventually decay, sure, but that doesn't mean anything. All your body is is a case for your brain, all your brain does is interpret electrical impulses, like a supercomputer. Therefore I don't think that it's an unreasonable expectation to think that in the future there will be computers able to store consciousness. That's what I want, to essentially become an energy-based life form that lives in a computer.

Unless there's a lot more to it, that sounds downright depressing.

It's only depressing if you hate life.
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6/20/2010 12:57:30 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Here's what I'd like to be done with my body after I go.

Compost for the win.

http://www.promessa.se...
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6/20/2010 1:00:43 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:55:51 AM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:53:09 AM, Korashk wrote:

My body will eventually decay, sure, but that doesn't mean anything. All your body is is a case for your brain, all your brain does is interpret electrical impulses, like a supercomputer. Therefore I don't think that it's an unreasonable expectation to think that in the future there will be computers able to store consciousness. That's what I want, to essentially become an energy-based life form that lives in a computer.

Unless there's a lot more to it, that sounds downright depressing.

I thought that a worldwide network connected to all of the other computers (Internet, duh) and virtual reality were some of the implied benefits of living in a computer.
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6/20/2010 1:01:34 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 12:57:15 AM, FREEDO wrote:

It's only depressing if you hate life.

Ever read Gulliver's Travels? http://en.wikipedia.org...

You'd really want to "live" in a computer for the next few million years? No body? No sensory organs?
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6/20/2010 1:02:30 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/20/2010 1:00:43 AM, Korashk wrote:

I thought that a worldwide network connected to all of the other computers (Internet, duh) and virtual reality were some of the implied benefits of living in a computer.

Ah, sounds good then. Still not sure I'd want to live like that forever, though.