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wowwhatwhy
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1/20/2015 1:18:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Hinduism is not a mental disorder, Islam is not a mental disorder, Christianity is not a mental disorder, even Scientology is not allowed to be referred to as a mental disorder. Yet Autism and all its sub-sects are demonized by societies across the world as if they are something to be fixed, as if it is an issue to be solved.

I find this very rude and outrageous to do. You are saying that having an imaginary friend who guards you in any situation that you ask for assistance is not lunacy to the point of genuine insanity and emergency disorder of the brain and yet you tell people who happen to rely too heavily on logic and struggle to pick up on emotions and social cues sick in the head?

Adherents of Autism refer to themselves as geniuses but most of the world refers to them as Autistic. The Autistics are very rigid in their routine, have varying obsessions across their religion as it is a very diverse one and one Autistic can never be assumed to share the same outlook as another one. What the Autistics do have in common though, is a shared loathing of socializing and small talk and an avid love for the strange and other-worldly.

Much like Buddhists who make the vow of non-silence many Autistics have made the vow in the womb of their mother and never utter a word in their life. Other Autistics struggle with the notion of tying their own shoelaces or making out with an attractive member of their preferred gender, these are commonly seen as a sins amongst the majority of their following.

However, it is taking it to awhoel new level of 'out of order' when you say that to be an adherent of Autism is to have a mental disorder. Dr. Asperger is one of their many prophets and is the founder of the sub-sect Asperger's Syndrome who choose not to make the vow of silence in the womb but sometimes do so in sexually tense situations because their heart is racing too fast for their brain to cope. Asperger's followers share the common fundamentals of Austism, such as compulsive obsessiveness and unsympathetic verbal abuse on others while never accepting that the self should then also take the verbal abuse back at them.

Crying, whining and screaming are common practices among adherents as means of soothing the mind. Silent meditation should only be done when one is carrying out their obsessively preferred activity, such as taking photos of shoes or masturbating to furry porn.

I support the right of Autism, and its adherent to escape this social stigma of being mentally ill and 'fixable' and instead to be accepted as part of the religious community, as opposed to the psychological one in which they have taken refuge.
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DanneJeRusse
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1/20/2015 1:26:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/20/2015 1:18:52 PM, wowwhatwhy wrote:
Hinduism is not a mental disorder, Islam is not a mental disorder, Christianity is not a mental disorder, even Scientology is not allowed to be referred to as a mental disorder. Yet Autism and all its sub-sects are demonized by societies across the world as if they are something to be fixed, as if it is an issue to be solved.

I find this very rude and outrageous to do. You are saying that having an imaginary friend who guards you in any situation that you ask for assistance is not lunacy to the point of genuine insanity and emergency disorder of the brain and yet you tell people who happen to rely too heavily on logic and struggle to pick up on emotions and social cues sick in the head?

Adherents of Autism refer to themselves as geniuses but most of the world refers to them as Autistic. The Autistics are very rigid in their routine, have varying obsessions across their religion as it is a very diverse one and one Autistic can never be assumed to share the same outlook as another one. What the Autistics do have in common though, is a shared loathing of socializing and small talk and an avid love for the strange and other-worldly.

Much like Buddhists who make the vow of non-silence many Autistics have made the vow in the womb of their mother and never utter a word in their life. Other Autistics struggle with the notion of tying their own shoelaces or making out with an attractive member of their preferred gender, these are commonly seen as a sins amongst the majority of their following.

However, it is taking it to awhoel new level of 'out of order' when you say that to be an adherent of Autism is to have a mental disorder. Dr. Asperger is one of their many prophets and is the founder of the sub-sect Asperger's Syndrome who choose not to make the vow of silence in the womb but sometimes do so in sexually tense situations because their heart is racing too fast for their brain to cope. Asperger's followers share the common fundamentals of Austism, such as compulsive obsessiveness and unsympathetic verbal abuse on others while never accepting that the self should then also take the verbal abuse back at them.

Crying, whining and screaming are common practices among adherents as means of soothing the mind. Silent meditation should only be done when one is carrying out their obsessively preferred activity, such as taking photos of shoes or masturbating to furry porn.

I support the right of Autism, and its adherent to escape this social stigma of being mentally ill and 'fixable' and instead to be accepted as part of the religious community, as opposed to the psychological one in which they have taken refuge.

Great post!

And, while I would agree that those religions are not really mental disorders, they certainly appear to be the result of mental disorders. The disorder from those religions is the result of childhood indoctrination, but it is a disorder that can be treated with logic and reason.
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1/20/2015 1:30:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/20/2015 1:26:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 1/20/2015 1:18:52 PM, wowwhatwhy wrote:
Hinduism is not a mental disorder, Islam is not a mental disorder, Christianity is not a mental disorder, even Scientology is not allowed to be referred to as a mental disorder. Yet Autism and all its sub-sects are demonized by societies across the world as if they are something to be fixed, as if it is an issue to be solved.

I find this very rude and outrageous to do. You are saying that having an imaginary friend who guards you in any situation that you ask for assistance is not lunacy to the point of genuine insanity and emergency disorder of the brain and yet you tell people who happen to rely too heavily on logic and struggle to pick up on emotions and social cues sick in the head?

Adherents of Autism refer to themselves as geniuses but most of the world refers to them as Autistic. The Autistics are very rigid in their routine, have varying obsessions across their religion as it is a very diverse one and one Autistic can never be assumed to share the same outlook as another one. What the Autistics do have in common though, is a shared loathing of socializing and small talk and an avid love for the strange and other-worldly.

Much like Buddhists who make the vow of non-silence many Autistics have made the vow in the womb of their mother and never utter a word in their life. Other Autistics struggle with the notion of tying their own shoelaces or making out with an attractive member of their preferred gender, these are commonly seen as a sins amongst the majority of their following.

However, it is taking it to awhoel new level of 'out of order' when you say that to be an adherent of Autism is to have a mental disorder. Dr. Asperger is one of their many prophets and is the founder of the sub-sect Asperger's Syndrome who choose not to make the vow of silence in the womb but sometimes do so in sexually tense situations because their heart is racing too fast for their brain to cope. Asperger's followers share the common fundamentals of Austism, such as compulsive obsessiveness and unsympathetic verbal abuse on others while never accepting that the self should then also take the verbal abuse back at them.

Crying, whining and screaming are common practices among adherents as means of soothing the mind. Silent meditation should only be done when one is carrying out their obsessively preferred activity, such as taking photos of shoes or masturbating to furry porn.

I support the right of Autism, and its adherent to escape this social stigma of being mentally ill and 'fixable' and instead to be accepted as part of the religious community, as opposed to the psychological one in which they have taken refuge.

Great post!

And, while I would agree that those religions are not really mental disorders, they certainly appear to be the result of mental disorders. The disorder from those religions is the result of childhood indoctrination, but it is a disorder that can be treated with logic and reason.

Oh yes!
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1/20/2015 2:20:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Autism is not a mental illness. It is a genetic disorder tied to a small degree to environmental factors. But Christian fundamentalism is seen as a treatable mental illness.

Kathleen Taylor, Neuroscientist, Says Religious Fundamentalism Could Be Treated As A Mental Illness

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An Oxford University researcher and author specializing in neuroscience has suggested that one day religious fundamentalism may be treated as a curable mental illness.