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ChristianPunk
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1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements
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1/26/2015 8:00:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

The topic is illogical since there are moral and also immoral people in Christianity and you cannot judge a whole group by a few moral or immoral people within it.
The group as a whole is both moral and also immoral due to having both types of people in the group.
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1/26/2015 8:16:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:00:43 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

The topic is illogical since there are moral and also immoral people in Christianity and you cannot judge a whole group by a few moral or immoral people within it.
The group as a whole is both moral and also immoral due to having both types of people in the group.

It's not illogical because I am not addressing the people, but the system of Christianity. This includes: It's Bible, traditions and core beliefs.
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1/26/2015 8:22:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Tempted....
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1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....
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1/26/2015 8:30:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:22:13 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Tempted....

XD. Well if you want, feel free to challenge me. I will allow you to start R1.
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1/26/2015 8:31:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:16:03 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:00:43 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

The topic is illogical since there are moral and also immoral people in Christianity and you cannot judge a whole group by a few moral or immoral people within it.
The group as a whole is both moral and also immoral due to having both types of people in the group.

It's not illogical because I am not addressing the people, but the system of Christianity. This includes: It's Bible, traditions and core beliefs.

Whether any system is corrupt or not depends on how you interpret what they teach and believe.
The system itself has its positive and negative side the same as the people in it. The system is made up of people. It is people teaching people to believe certain things and not believe others.

It is a bit like having an apple with bad spots in it. Is the apple good or bad? Does one bad spot in the apple make the whole apple bad or does one good spot make the whole apple good?

The fact is the whole system is both good and bad depending on what areas you concentrate on and how you interpret the stories and lessons in it.
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1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?
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1/26/2015 8:33:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?

Yep. I am working on fixing that. The belief system isn't exactly good for one's health...
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1/26/2015 8:35:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:33:17 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?

Yep. I am working on fixing that. The belief system isn't exactly good for one's health...

So wait. You admit being a Nihilist isn't good?
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1/26/2015 8:36:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:35:42 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:33:17 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?

Yep. I am working on fixing that. The belief system isn't exactly good for one's health...

So wait. You admit being a Nihilist isn't good?

I never said that. The only thing I am implying is that I don't like it. It's not good for my health and I don't like being in poor health. Thus I would prefer not to be one.
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1/26/2015 8:38:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:36:54 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:35:42 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:33:17 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?

Yep. I am working on fixing that. The belief system isn't exactly good for one's health...

So wait. You admit being a Nihilist isn't good?

I never said that. The only thing I am implying is that I don't like it. It's not good for my health and I don't like being in poor health. Thus I would prefer not to be one.

I see. Then what do you think would cause that to change then?
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1/26/2015 8:39:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:38:05 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:36:54 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:35:42 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:33:17 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?

Yep. I am working on fixing that. The belief system isn't exactly good for one's health...

So wait. You admit being a Nihilist isn't good?

I never said that. The only thing I am implying is that I don't like it. It's not good for my health and I don't like being in poor health. Thus I would prefer not to be one.

I see. Then what do you think would cause that to change then?

Not a belief in Christianity, that much is for sure :-p.
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1/26/2015 8:42:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:39:02 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:38:05 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:36:54 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:35:42 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:33:17 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?

Yep. I am working on fixing that. The belief system isn't exactly good for one's health...

So wait. You admit being a Nihilist isn't good?

I never said that. The only thing I am implying is that I don't like it. It's not good for my health and I don't like being in poor health. Thus I would prefer not to be one.

I see. Then what do you think would cause that to change then?

Not a belief in Christianity, that much is for sure :-p.

What is it about Christianity that causes you object it?
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1/26/2015 8:49:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:42:53 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
Not a belief in Christianity, that much is for sure :-p.

What is it about Christianity that causes you object it?

I would prefer to be a part of a society which does not make big factual claims for itself. I have looked into Buddhism and others and ran into similar (although much less significant than Christianity) problems.

Perhaps some form of immortality that doesn't invoke real concepts, such as having an immortal impact on the world (your deeds will live on) etc. which would give a sense of meaning and purpose. I don't think I would mind that, cults which really do make factual claims though I am automatically critical of, and Christianity is the one I am most critical of (since that's that one I was brought up in).

So besides my obvious objections to the factual correctness of Christianity. Even if it could be factually correct, I would prefer not to be involved, since I would prefer to live prefer a more abstract purpose over a direct purpose.
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1/26/2015 8:56:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:49:49 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:42:53 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
Not a belief in Christianity, that much is for sure :-p.

What is it about Christianity that causes you object it?

I would prefer to be a part of a society which does not make big factual claims for itself. I have looked into Buddhism and others and ran into similar (although much less significant than Christianity) problems.

Perhaps some form of immortality that doesn't invoke real concepts, such as having an immortal impact on the world (your deeds will live on) etc. which would give a sense of meaning and purpose. I don't think I would mind that, cults which really do make factual claims though I am automatically critical of, and Christianity is the one I am most critical of (since that's that one I was brought up in).

So besides my obvious objections to the factual correctness of Christianity. Even if it could be factually correct, I would prefer not to be involved, since I would prefer to live prefer a more abstract purpose over a direct purpose.

So while the idea of a sacrificed man who is told to be God, died so that those who believe on him can automatically be forgiven and gone to paradise in an afterlife may seem ridiculous, don't you think it can offer a sense of peace, pacifism and potential for care for the Earth?
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1/26/2015 9:50:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:56:12 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:49:49 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:42:53 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
Not a belief in Christianity, that much is for sure :-p.

What is it about Christianity that causes you object it?

I would prefer to be a part of a society which does not make big factual claims for itself. I have looked into Buddhism and others and ran into similar (although much less significant than Christianity) problems.

Perhaps some form of immortality that doesn't invoke real concepts, such as having an immortal impact on the world (your deeds will live on) etc. which would give a sense of meaning and purpose. I don't think I would mind that, cults which really do make factual claims though I am automatically critical of, and Christianity is the one I am most critical of (since that's that one I was brought up in).

So besides my obvious objections to the factual correctness of Christianity. Even if it could be factually correct, I would prefer not to be involved, since I would prefer to live prefer a more abstract purpose over a direct purpose.

So while the idea of a sacrificed man who is told to be God, died so that those who believe on him can automatically be forgiven and gone to paradise in an afterlife may seem ridiculous, don't you think it can offer a sense of peace, pacifism and potential for care for the Earth?

Why would I want a philosophy which pre-loads people with something by which they should be ultimately forgiven? Forgiveness requires something to be forgiven of. I don't particularly care for God's forgiveness, and only that of the people I hurt.

I think it promotes a self-shaming and derogatory mindset. Also if the job is done by Jesus then I would remain functionally a nihilist, since all that is left to do is just die, nothing matters until I do.

So Christianity as you have presented it is functionally useless for what I want to accomplish by adopting a life philosophy.
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1/27/2015 7:44:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/26/2015 8:33:17 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?

Yep. I am working on fixing that. The belief system isn't exactly good for one's health...

Believing in God is good for you.

http://media.wix.com...

Also, didn't you give me crap a couple months ago when I said "being a nihilist must suck"? :P
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1/27/2015 9:02:05 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/27/2015 7:44:26 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:33:17 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?

Yep. I am working on fixing that. The belief system isn't exactly good for one's health...

Believing in God is good for you.

http://media.wix.com...

Also, didn't you give me crap a couple months ago when I said "being a nihilist must suck"? :P

Because you were attacking me as a person and not the belief itself. I freely admit nihilism sucks, I even made an entire thread with that title. I don't like yet, yet I have found myself forced to accept that it is an accurate description of reality.

Also you were being an arse to me in other threads at that time (which I don't think you will disagree with) and hence I adopted an equally barbed stance against you.
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1/27/2015 9:06:24 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/27/2015 7:44:26 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:33:17 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?

Yep. I am working on fixing that. The belief system isn't exactly good for one's health...

Believing in God is good for you.

http://media.wix.com...

Also, didn't you give me crap a couple months ago when I said "being a nihilist must suck"? :P

Also your habit of posting links without presenting the argument I regard as intellectually lazy and thus wasting my time. If you want someone to read an article then at least give an essence that you yourself have read it, by highlighting a key find or point in the article. Heck even when I cite throw-away studies in publications I at least say what the quantified is 'this study found XYZ index showed believe in ABC God was beneficial to the elderly' or something.

Otherwise I could do the same intellectually lazy stuff. Like, "God doesn't exist":
http://www.amazon.co.uk...

QED.
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1/27/2015 9:45:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/27/2015 9:06:24 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/27/2015 7:44:26 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:33:17 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?

Yep. I am working on fixing that. The belief system isn't exactly good for one's health...

Believing in God is good for you.

http://media.wix.com...

Also, didn't you give me crap a couple months ago when I said "being a nihilist must suck"? :P

Also your habit of posting links without presenting the argument I regard as intellectually lazy and thus wasting my time. If you want someone to read an article then at least give an essence that you yourself have read it, by highlighting a key find or point in the article. Heck even when I cite throw-away studies in publications I at least say what the quantified is 'this study found XYZ index showed believe in ABC God was beneficial to the elderly' or something.

Otherwise I could do the same intellectually lazy stuff. Like, "God doesn't exist":
http://www.amazon.co.uk...

QED.

Hmm, I offered to debate it with you ("Believing in God is good for you") but you didn't want to so I'm not sure what you mean by "intellectually lazy". And that stands for pretty much everything I say. When people challenge me of my understanding of said articles, I always offer to debate it formally. Pretty much no one accepts. Not sure what is "intellectually lazy" about that. I'm just over giving detailed, drawn out arguments in forum posts.

Are we still doing that religious experience debate?
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1/27/2015 9:49:59 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/27/2015 9:02:05 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/27/2015 7:44:26 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:33:17 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?

Yep. I am working on fixing that. The belief system isn't exactly good for one's health...

Believing in God is good for you.

http://media.wix.com...

Also, didn't you give me crap a couple months ago when I said "being a nihilist must suck"? :P

Because you were attacking me as a person and not the belief itself. I freely admit nihilism sucks, I even made an entire thread with that title. I don't like yet, yet I have found myself forced to accept that it is an accurate description of reality.


So it's ok for you to say it, but not me to say it.... ok. Which is all I was commenting on. And, no, I wasn't attacking you as a person. I wasn't making a comment on the truth value of nihilism which I think is false or saying "because nihilism sucks, it must be false" - I was just saying that nihilism sucks which you had freely admitted. Nor I was saying you must suck because you are a nihilist.

Also you were being an arse to me in other threads at that time (which I don't think you will disagree with) and hence I adopted an equally barbed stance against you.

I agree and I apologized.
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1/27/2015 9:52:29 AM
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At 1/27/2015 9:45:21 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 1/27/2015 9:06:24 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/27/2015 7:44:26 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:33:17 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?

Yep. I am working on fixing that. The belief system isn't exactly good for one's health...

Believing in God is good for you.

http://media.wix.com...

Also, didn't you give me crap a couple months ago when I said "being a nihilist must suck"? :P

Also your habit of posting links without presenting the argument I regard as intellectually lazy and thus wasting my time. If you want someone to read an article then at least give an essence that you yourself have read it, by highlighting a key find or point in the article. Heck even when I cite throw-away studies in publications I at least say what the quantified is 'this study found XYZ index showed believe in ABC God was beneficial to the elderly' or something.

Otherwise I could do the same intellectually lazy stuff. Like, "God doesn't exist":
http://www.amazon.co.uk...

QED.

Hmm, I offered to debate it with you ("Believing in God is good for you") but you didn't want to so I'm not sure what you mean by "intellectually lazy". And that stands for pretty much everything I say. When people challenge me of my understanding of said articles, I always offer to debate it formally. Pretty much no one accepts. Not sure what is "intellectually lazy" about that. I'm just over giving detailed, drawn out arguments in forum posts.


Are we still doing that religious experience debate?

I don't necessarily disagree that belief in God is good for you. It seems highly plausible that it is the case before I look into the statistics. I am referring to your habit of posting links with no context. You are ignoring the central point I am making with that by using a tu quoque fallacy....

As for our debate, which was actually going to be on religious experience as an argument for God. Sure, send me the debate, since I would prefer you go first in that debate (I intend to forward a positive case against it either way though).
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1/27/2015 9:56:02 AM
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At 1/27/2015 9:49:59 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 1/27/2015 9:02:05 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/27/2015 7:44:26 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:33:17 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:31:41 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 1/26/2015 8:29:23 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 1/26/2015 7:50:52 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
I am currently waiting for Danielle to debate me on this topic, but here is the topic.

Would you like to do a debate on the topic: "Is Christianity Moral and Good?"

The format would be like this.

R1: Opening Statements

R2-3: Rebuttals

R4: Questions

R5: Answering Opponents Questions/Closing Statements

Aa... It's too annoying to debate this as a nihilist. I physically detest when I see the words 'moral' and 'good'. Why can't I have a more normal belie system....

So your a Nihilist? So are certain things in life meaningless as well as life?

Yep. I am working on fixing that. The belief system isn't exactly good for one's health...

Believing in God is good for you.

http://media.wix.com...

Also, didn't you give me crap a couple months ago when I said "being a nihilist must suck"? :P

Because you were attacking me as a person and not the belief itself. I freely admit nihilism sucks, I even made an entire thread with that title. I don't like yet, yet I have found myself forced to accept that it is an accurate description of reality.


So it's ok for you to say it, but not me to say it.... ok. Which is all I was commenting on.

No you wasn't, lol. Also, I am not making the statement you are wrong, only that I don't like it. You can IDGAF that and you would be within your right to, I wouldn't have much to say about it other than ignoring you.

And, no, I wasn't attacking you as a person. I wasn't making a comment on the truth value of nihilism which I think is false or saying "because nihilism sucks, it must be false" - I was just saying that nihilism sucks which you had freely admitted. Nor I was saying you must suck because you are a nihilist.

*Shrug* Maybe so. I don't remember that being the case but OK if it was.

Also you were being an arse to me in other threads at that time (which I don't think you will disagree with) and hence I adopted an equally barbed stance against you.

I agree and I apologized.