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Can religion prove that Lucifer is evil?

BDPershing
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1/27/2015 7:00:28 PM
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Can religion prove without a one sided bias, that Lucifer/Satan is indeed evil?

The logic works like this,
What if god is evil and Lucifer is good and tried to over throw the evil god, and, after banishing Lucifer, made the bible for propaganda to make Lucifer seem evil and himself good?

So can religion prove this is not the case without a one sided claim?
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1/27/2015 7:18:04 PM
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Luciferian Doctrine>Light bearer, Its not going well for them because of the Rrestrainer but once He is gone it will be a snap!
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1/27/2015 7:18:15 PM
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At 1/27/2015 7:00:28 PM, BDPershing wrote:
Can religion prove without a one sided bias, that Lucifer/Satan is indeed evil?

The logic works like this,
What if god is evil and Lucifer is good and tried to over throw the evil god, and, after banishing Lucifer, made the bible for propaganda to make Lucifer seem evil and himself good?

So can religion prove this is not the case without a one sided claim?

If you go by body count alone, Lucifer is good and God is evil.
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1/27/2015 7:42:31 PM
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At 1/27/2015 7:00:28 PM, BDPershing wrote:
Can religion prove without a one sided bias, that Lucifer/Satan is indeed evil?

The logic works like this,
What if god is evil and Lucifer is good and tried to over throw the evil god, and, after banishing Lucifer, made the bible for propaganda to make Lucifer seem evil and himself good?

So can religion prove this is not the case without a one sided claim?

Yeah if you redefine Good and Evil.

Good is doing God's will, Evil is the absence of Good.

But if you just redefine them and swap them then it sure sounds like it makes sense. I think such swapping definitions and values is still leaving the question where it began.
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1/27/2015 9:22:53 PM
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At 1/27/2015 7:00:28 PM, BDPershing wrote:
Can religion prove without a one sided bias, that Lucifer/Satan is indeed evil?
Key problem, the only source for the existence of Lucifer/Satan is religion.
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1/27/2015 9:25:44 PM
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At 1/27/2015 9:22:53 PM, Ragnar wrote:
At 1/27/2015 7:00:28 PM, BDPershing wrote:
Can religion prove without a one sided bias, that Lucifer/Satan is indeed evil?
Key problem, the only source for the existence of Lucifer/Satan is religion.

Didn't say without religion, i said without a one sided bias
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2/3/2015 1:03:48 AM
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At 1/27/2015 7:00:28 PM, BDPershing wrote:
Can religion prove without a one sided bias, that Lucifer/Satan is indeed evil?

The logic works like this,
What if god is evil and Lucifer is good and tried to over throw the evil god, and, after banishing Lucifer, made the bible for propaganda to make Lucifer seem evil and himself good?

So can religion prove this is not the case without a one sided claim?

- That might work in a Christian Paradigm, though not in an Islamic one.
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2/3/2015 3:29:31 AM
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At 1/27/2015 7:00:28 PM, BDPershing wrote:
Can religion prove without a one sided bias, that Lucifer/Satan is indeed evil?

The logic works like this,
What if god is evil and Lucifer is good and tried to over throw the evil god, and, after banishing Lucifer, made the bible for propaganda to make Lucifer seem evil and himself good?

So can religion prove this is not the case without a one sided claim?

Lucifer the light bearer, the most glorious of all the angels, the most righteous one, who demanded that all came up to his standard of Righteousness. It was he who stood before the throne of the MOST HIGH, where day and night he brought accusations against his brothers, much like Joseph, the beloved son of Jacob, who was forever bringing accusations against his brother who cast him away from his father and his family, .

Lucifer was eventually cast out of Paradise down to earth where he was the most righteous, jealous and judgemental God, who is hated by the atheists who are ignorant to the truths as revealed in the Holy Scriptures.

Lucifer eventually learns through great suffering to accept mankind for who they are and it is He who descends from the ends of time and reveals himself through his faithful servant Jesus.

It was his spirit which descended upon the man Jesus in the form of a dove, and who later led him off into the wilderness where he was tempted for forty days, etc.

In Jesus, his obedient servant, we saw the perfected Lucifer, and it was for that reason that Jesus, the earthly "IMAGE" of the perfected Lucifer, was lifted up upon a stake in the same manner that Moses lifted up the "IMAGE of the serpent on a pole in the wilderness, in order that all those who were dying because of the old serpents venom (Self righteous judgemental mind) that was coursing through their veins, only had to turn their eyes to, his perfected "IMAGE" that was lifted up, in order to be saved.

And it was through the mouth of his obedient servant Jesus, who spoke not one word on his own authority, but only that which he was commanded to say, that the perfected Lucifer, the most glorious and first born son of God, cried out: "Father! Give me glory in your presence now, the same glory I had with you before the world was made. See John" 17: 5.
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2/3/2015 4:47:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
As Lucifer, like the deity is unlikely to exist, its nature is a matter of speculation with nothing to support it.