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Wylted
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1/28/2015 6:34:09 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
What's up with these weirdos killing people for drawing pictures of Muhhamed? I'm in fear of even asking why they do that because one of them could kill me for saying their religion is not one of peace.

It seems like they don't get any criticism from the Muslim community either, so their religious institutions are silently supporting them. Just try to get any of them to say they condemn their actions is like pulling teeth and usually doesn't come.

I really hope I don't end up dead for criticizing their religion :(
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1/28/2015 6:43:57 AM
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Hardly a massive fan myself, but I think you'd find even a cursory glance at who is saying what would show that there's quite a bit of internal criticism taking place.
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1/28/2015 6:44:58 AM
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Muhammed was ugly.
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1/28/2015 6:53:18 AM
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I don't think 9-year olds are all that discerning when it comes to that sort of thing.
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1/28/2015 6:54:02 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 6:43:57 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
Hardly a massive fan myself, but I think you'd find even a cursory glance at who is saying what would show that there's quite a bit of internal criticism taking place.

Not seeing the internal criticism
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1/28/2015 6:56:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 6:53:18 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
I don't think 9-year olds are all that discerning when it comes to that sort of thing.

Actually, she was six. They consummated the marriage when she was nine.
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1/28/2015 6:56:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 6:54:02 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:43:57 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
Hardly a massive fan myself, but I think you'd find even a cursory glance at who is saying what would show that there's quite a bit of internal criticism taking place.

Not seeing the internal criticism

Because you're not looking for it. Apparently you're working quite hard to not look at it, because I wasn't looking to find it and I still did. Weird, huh? Almost like you've got some sort of polemical agenda.
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1/28/2015 6:57:36 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 6:56:23 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:53:18 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
I don't think 9-year olds are all that discerning when it comes to that sort of thing.

Actually, she was six. They consummated the marriage when she was nine.

I'm not really all that bothered what the claimed age of the victim of a mythologised paedophile was, to be honest.
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1/28/2015 7:01:36 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 6:57:36 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:56:23 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:53:18 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
I don't think 9-year olds are all that discerning when it comes to that sort of thing.

Actually, she was six. They consummated the marriage when she was nine.

I'm not really all that bothered what the claimed age of the victim of a mythologised paedophile was, to be honest.

The age is important as that's what makes him a pedophile. As for being mythologised, that's pretty obvious.
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1/28/2015 7:05:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:01:36 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:57:36 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:56:23 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:53:18 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
I don't think 9-year olds are all that discerning when it comes to that sort of thing.

Actually, she was six. They consummated the marriage when she was nine.

I'm not really all that bothered what the claimed age of the victim of a mythologised paedophile was, to be honest.

The age is important as that's what makes him a pedophile. As for being mythologised, that's pretty obvious.

Not between 6 and 9 it doesn't.
Wylted
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1/28/2015 7:05:58 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 6:56:40 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:54:02 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:43:57 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
Hardly a massive fan myself, but I think you'd find even a cursory glance at who is saying what would show that there's quite a bit of internal criticism taking place.

Not seeing the internal criticism

Because you're not looking for it. Apparently you're working quite hard to not look at it, because I wasn't looking to find it and I still did. Weird, huh? Almost like you've got some sort of polemical agenda.

Nope, whenever you see a mosque leader invited onto one of these shows and the leader is asked if he condemns the Muslims who did the terror attack, he'll say he doesn't approve or anything else to avoid answering whether he condemns them.
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1/28/2015 7:08:33 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:05:58 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:56:40 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:54:02 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:43:57 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
Hardly a massive fan myself, but I think you'd find even a cursory glance at who is saying what would show that there's quite a bit of internal criticism taking place.

Not seeing the internal criticism

Because you're not looking for it. Apparently you're working quite hard to not look at it, because I wasn't looking to find it and I still did. Weird, huh? Almost like you've got some sort of polemical agenda.

Nope, whenever you see a mosque leader invited onto one of these shows and the leader is asked if he condemns the Muslims who did the terror attack, he'll say he doesn't approve or anything else to avoid answering whether he condemns them.

Just a hunch here, but do you by any chance use Fox News as a primary new source?
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1/28/2015 7:16:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:05:45 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:01:36 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:57:36 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:56:23 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:53:18 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
I don't think 9-year olds are all that discerning when it comes to that sort of thing.

Actually, she was six. They consummated the marriage when she was nine.

I'm not really all that bothered what the claimed age of the victim of a mythologised paedophile was, to be honest.

The age is important as that's what makes him a pedophile. As for being mythologised, that's pretty obvious.

Not between 6 and 9 it doesn't.

Yep, it absolutely does. He married her at six and had sex with her at nine; four years before she was technically a teenager. Both ages are under the age of consent, even by standards applied to his time period.
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1/28/2015 7:17:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 6:34:09 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's up with these weirdos killing people for drawing pictures of Muhhamed? I'm in fear of even asking why they do that because one of them could kill me for saying their religion is not one of peace.

It seems like they don't get any criticism from the Muslim community either, so their religious institutions are silently supporting them. Just try to get any of them to say they condemn their actions is like pulling teeth and usually doesn't come.

I really hope I don't end up dead for criticizing their religion :(

perhaps because you invade their lands, keep droning their beloved family, and destroying their villages.
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1/28/2015 7:17:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 6:56:23 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:53:18 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
I don't think 9-year olds are all that discerning when it comes to that sort of thing.

Actually, she was six. They consummated the marriage when she was nine.

what is the problem then?
Emilrose
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1/28/2015 7:19:41 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:08:33 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:05:58 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:56:40 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:54:02 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:43:57 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
Hardly a massive fan myself, but I think you'd find even a cursory glance at who is saying what would show that there's quite a bit of internal criticism taking place.

Not seeing the internal criticism

Because you're not looking for it. Apparently you're working quite hard to not look at it, because I wasn't looking to find it and I still did. Weird, huh? Almost like you've got some sort of polemical agenda.

Nope, whenever you see a mosque leader invited onto one of these shows and the leader is asked if he condemns the Muslims who did the terror attack, he'll say he doesn't approve or anything else to avoid answering whether he condemns them.

Just a hunch here, but do you by any chance use Fox News as a primary new source?

I never watch Fox News, and I've observed the same thing. Instead of outrage it's mild disapproval, and a lot tend to avoid the questions.
Commentator on a picture with David Cameron and a Cat: 'Amazing what you can achieve with photoshop these days. I'm sure that used to be a pig.'

Commentator on Hillary Clinton: 'If Clinton is now what passes for progressive, maybe this country deserves Trump.'

Commentator on British parliament: 'All that talent in one place, where is Ebola when you need it?'

John Kerry on words: 'These aren't just words, folks.'
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1/28/2015 7:20:52 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:16:51 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:05:45 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:01:36 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:57:36 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:56:23 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:53:18 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
I don't think 9-year olds are all that discerning when it comes to that sort of thing.

Actually, she was six. They consummated the marriage when she was nine.

I'm not really all that bothered what the claimed age of the victim of a mythologised paedophile was, to be honest.

The age is important as that's what makes him a pedophile. As for being mythologised, that's pretty obvious.

Not between 6 and 9 it doesn't.

Yep, it absolutely does. He married her at six and had sex with her at nine; four years before she was technically a teenager. Both ages are under the age of consent, even by standards applied to his time period.

Uh... both are under the age of consent, which is my point; it doesn't matter whether she was 6 or she was 9, it was still paedophilia. Whichever of the two ages it was is unimportant.
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1/28/2015 7:22:19 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:17:49 AM, uncung wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:56:23 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:53:18 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
I don't think 9-year olds are all that discerning when it comes to that sort of thing.

Actually, she was six. They consummated the marriage when she was nine.

what is the problem then?

Hilarious. She was still a child, genius.
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Commentator on Hillary Clinton: 'If Clinton is now what passes for progressive, maybe this country deserves Trump.'

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John Kerry on words: 'These aren't just words, folks.'
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1/28/2015 7:22:36 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:08:33 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:05:58 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:56:40 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:54:02 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:43:57 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
Hardly a massive fan myself, but I think you'd find even a cursory glance at who is saying what would show that there's quite a bit of internal criticism taking place.

Not seeing the internal criticism

Because you're not looking for it. Apparently you're working quite hard to not look at it, because I wasn't looking to find it and I still did. Weird, huh? Almost like you've got some sort of polemical agenda.

Nope, whenever you see a mosque leader invited onto one of these shows and the leader is asked if he condemns the Muslims who did the terror attack, he'll say he doesn't approve or anything else to avoid answering whether he condemns them.

Just a hunch here, but do you by any chance use Fox News as a primary new source?

What's it matter if Muslim leaders are the ones on their doing the talking?
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1/28/2015 7:23:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:19:41 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:08:33 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:05:58 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:56:40 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:54:02 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:43:57 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
Hardly a massive fan myself, but I think you'd find even a cursory glance at who is saying what would show that there's quite a bit of internal criticism taking place.

Not seeing the internal criticism

Because you're not looking for it. Apparently you're working quite hard to not look at it, because I wasn't looking to find it and I still did. Weird, huh? Almost like you've got some sort of polemical agenda.

Nope, whenever you see a mosque leader invited onto one of these shows and the leader is asked if he condemns the Muslims who did the terror attack, he'll say he doesn't approve or anything else to avoid answering whether he condemns them.

Just a hunch here, but do you by any chance use Fox News as a primary new source?

I never watch Fox News, and I've observed the same thing. Instead of outrage it's mild disapproval, and a lot tend to avoid the questions.

So no coverage of, for instance, Hassan Nasrallah saying that the terrorists who committed the attacks had done far greater insult to Islam than the cartoons ever did?
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1/28/2015 7:23:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:17:06 AM, uncung wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:34:09 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's up with these weirdos killing people for drawing pictures of Muhhamed? I'm in fear of even asking why they do that because one of them could kill me for saying their religion is not one of peace.

It seems like they don't get any criticism from the Muslim community either, so their religious institutions are silently supporting them. Just try to get any of them to say they condemn their actions is like pulling teeth and usually doesn't come.

I really hope I don't end up dead for criticizing their religion :(

perhaps because you invade their lands, keep droning their beloved family, and destroying their villages.

What about the American ones and how does that stuff have anything to do with killing people for drawing a picture or even for killing people who have premarital sex?
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1/28/2015 7:24:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:22:36 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:08:33 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:05:58 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:56:40 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:54:02 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:43:57 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
Hardly a massive fan myself, but I think you'd find even a cursory glance at who is saying what would show that there's quite a bit of internal criticism taking place.

Not seeing the internal criticism

Because you're not looking for it. Apparently you're working quite hard to not look at it, because I wasn't looking to find it and I still did. Weird, huh? Almost like you've got some sort of polemical agenda.

Nope, whenever you see a mosque leader invited onto one of these shows and the leader is asked if he condemns the Muslims who did the terror attack, he'll say he doesn't approve or anything else to avoid answering whether he condemns them.

Just a hunch here, but do you by any chance use Fox News as a primary new source?

What's it matter if Muslim leaders are the ones on their doing the talking?

Because people who watch Fox News as a primary news source tend to be painfully ignorant. If you think they're showing you anything other than what they want to show you, you're an idiot.
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1/28/2015 7:25:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:20:52 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:16:51 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:05:45 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:01:36 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:57:36 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:56:23 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:53:18 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
I don't think 9-year olds are all that discerning when it comes to that sort of thing.

Actually, she was six. They consummated the marriage when she was nine.

I'm not really all that bothered what the claimed age of the victim of a mythologised paedophile was, to be honest.

The age is important as that's what makes him a pedophile. As for being mythologised, that's pretty obvious.

Not between 6 and 9 it doesn't.

The purpose of that comment was then?

Yep, it absolutely does. He married her at six and had sex with her at nine; four years before she was technically a teenager. Both ages are under the age of consent, even by standards applied to his time period.

Uh... both are under the age of consent, which is my point; it doesn't matter whether she was 6 or she was 9, it was still paedophilia. Whichever of the two ages it was is unimportant.

The point was to highlight that she became the wife of Muhammad three years earlier.
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1/28/2015 7:25:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:23:38 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:19:41 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:08:33 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:05:58 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:56:40 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:54:02 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:43:57 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
Hardly a massive fan myself, but I think you'd find even a cursory glance at who is saying what would show that there's quite a bit of internal criticism taking place.

Not seeing the internal criticism

Because you're not looking for it. Apparently you're working quite hard to not look at it, because I wasn't looking to find it and I still did. Weird, huh? Almost like you've got some sort of polemical agenda.

Nope, whenever you see a mosque leader invited onto one of these shows and the leader is asked if he condemns the Muslims who did the terror attack, he'll say he doesn't approve or anything else to avoid answering whether he condemns them.

Just a hunch here, but do you by any chance use Fox News as a primary new source?

I never watch Fox News, and I've observed the same thing. Instead of outrage it's mild disapproval, and a lot tend to avoid the questions.

So no coverage of, for instance, Hassan Nasrallah saying that the terrorists who committed the attacks had done far greater insult to Islam than the cartoons ever did?

I just called by local mosque. The. Guy refused to condemn those who killed Charlie. He did say he doesn't condone the actions but he never condemned them.

So mild disapproval seems to be the main trend.
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1/28/2015 7:26:18 AM
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what is the problem then?

Hilarious. She was still a child, genius.

what is the problem then? they loved each other.
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1/28/2015 7:27:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:23:38 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:19:41 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:08:33 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 7:05:58 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:56:40 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:54:02 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/28/2015 6:43:57 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
Hardly a massive fan myself, but I think you'd find even a cursory glance at who is saying what would show that there's quite a bit of internal criticism taking place.

Not seeing the internal criticism

Because you're not looking for it. Apparently you're working quite hard to not look at it, because I wasn't looking to find it and I still did. Weird, huh? Almost like you've got some sort of polemical agenda.

Nope, whenever you see a mosque leader invited onto one of these shows and the leader is asked if he condemns the Muslims who did the terror attack, he'll say he doesn't approve or anything else to avoid answering whether he condemns them.

Just a hunch here, but do you by any chance use Fox News as a primary new source?

I never watch Fox News, and I've observed the same thing. Instead of outrage it's mild disapproval, and a lot tend to avoid the questions.

So no coverage of, for instance, Hassan Nasrallah saying that the terrorists who committed the attacks had done far greater insult to Islam than the cartoons ever did?

In this case he's drawing the attention to Islam rather than the attack itself or the victims, so this isn't exactly a good example.
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1/28/2015 7:27:30 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:25:13 AM, Emilrose wrote:
The purpose of that comment was then?

Of which comment?

The point was to highlight that she became the wife of Muhammad three years earlier.

I don't really see that as being any 'worse'. He was in a relationship with and f*cking a child. Anything else is eclipsed by this.
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1/28/2015 7:28:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:25:55 AM, Wylted wrote:
I just called by local mosque. The. Guy refused to condemn those who killed Charlie. He did say he doesn't condone the actions but he never condemned them.

So mild disapproval seems to be the main trend.

That's a sample size of one. The media has carried plenty of examples to the contrary, but you choose to ignore them. As I said, you're interested in polemic and nothing more.
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1/28/2015 7:30:16 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:27:11 AM, Emilrose wrote:
In this case he's drawing the attention to Islam rather than the attack itself or the victims, so this isn't exactly a good example.

So you're saying he didn't condemn them in the way you'd like? I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous; he quite clearly stated that they were absolutely unacceptable and did so by comparing it to something that he & his primary audience consider to be already unacceptable in itself.
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1/28/2015 7:31:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/28/2015 7:26:18 AM, uncung wrote:
what is the problem then?

Hilarious. She was still a child, genius.

what is the problem then? they loved each other.

Six year old cannot make *actual* decisions about who they love because they're not intellectually or emotionally capable of establishing what romantic love is.

This applies particularly to a six year old falling in love with a man in his fifties.
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Commentator on Hillary Clinton: 'If Clinton is now what passes for progressive, maybe this country deserves Trump.'

Commentator on British parliament: 'All that talent in one place, where is Ebola when you need it?'

John Kerry on words: 'These aren't just words, folks.'