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Hindus Are Monotheists

GeoLaureate8
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6/29/2010 8:49:14 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
They believe in the Great Brahma which is the equivalent of God.

"I am Brahma, the Great Brahma, the Conqueror, the Unconquered, the All-Seeing, All-Powerful, the Sovereign Lord, the Maker, Creator, Chief, Appointer and Ruler, Father of All That Have Been and Shall Be."

All the other gods of Hinduism are like the angels in Christianity. These gods and devas are not the all-powerful, eternal, all-knowing creator beings. They are often revered as manifestations of the one God.

To make it more confusing, Hindus also believe in Brahman which is Ultimate Reality, even higher than Great Brahma. (Basically, the Pantheist God.)
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6/29/2010 8:51:19 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/29/2010 8:49:14 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
To make it more confusing, Hindus also believe in Brahman which is the Absolute, even higher than Great Brahma. (Basically, the Pantheist God.)

*Edit.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
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6/29/2010 9:02:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/29/2010 8:51:19 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/29/2010 8:49:14 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
To make it more confusing, Hindus also believe in Brahman which is the Absolute, even higher than Great Brahma. (Basically, the Pantheist God.)

yeah, that's quite true. Hinduism is huge, its values can't be summarized. it doesn't make it confusing.
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6/29/2010 9:03:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/29/2010 9:02:18 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 6/29/2010 8:51:19 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/29/2010 8:49:14 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
To make it more confusing, Hindus also believe in Brahman which is the Absolute, even higher than Great Brahma. (Basically, the Pantheist God.)

yeah, that's quite true. Hinduism is huge, its values can't be summarized. it doesn't make it confusing.

You're Hindu, right? it'll be cool if you could offer some of your own insight on this topic. :)
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6/29/2010 9:04:20 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/29/2010 9:02:18 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:
yeah, that's quite true. Hinduism is huge, its values can't be summarized. it doesn't make it confusing.

I personally understand Hindu concepts and don't find them confusing, but these concepts are certainly new to others and may cause them confusion.
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6/29/2010 9:06:06 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/29/2010 9:04:20 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:02:18 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:
yeah, that's quite true. Hinduism is huge, its values can't be summarized. it doesn't make it confusing.

I personally understand Hindu concepts and don't find them confusing, but these concepts are certainly new to others and may cause them confusion.

I've studied some aspects of the Hindu religion, and it seems quite relaxing. I like its emphasis on nature and kindred spirit.
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6/29/2010 9:20:23 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/29/2010 9:03:34 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:02:18 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 6/29/2010 8:51:19 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/29/2010 8:49:14 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
To make it more confusing, Hindus also believe in Brahman which is the Absolute, even higher than Great Brahma. (Basically, the Pantheist God.)

yeah, that's quite true. Hinduism is huge, its values can't be summarized. it doesn't make it confusing.

You're Hindu, right? it'll be cool if you could offer some of your own insight on this topic. :)

well, yeah. the thing is, Hindus have a lot of rich history. We believe the great Triad, or trimurti which is a concept where the functions of creations, maintainence and destruction is personified in the form of Brahma as the creator, Vishnu as the maintainer or preserver, and Shiva as the destroyer.

There is a belief in Hindu system that - quote from Geeta-"Whenever virtue declines and unrighteousness rises, I manifest Myself as an embodied being. To protect the Saints and Sages, to destroy the evil-doers and to establish Dharma(righteousness), I am born from age to age."
-Bhagavad Gita 4.7 and 4.8

So all the other Gods are just reincarnations of these three trinities, that were born when the 'Evil reigned the Earth'.
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6/29/2010 9:23:14 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/29/2010 9:20:23 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:03:34 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:02:18 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 6/29/2010 8:51:19 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/29/2010 8:49:14 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
To make it more confusing, Hindus also believe in Brahman which is the Absolute, even higher than Great Brahma. (Basically, the Pantheist God.)

yeah, that's quite true. Hinduism is huge, its values can't be summarized. it doesn't make it confusing.

You're Hindu, right? it'll be cool if you could offer some of your own insight on this topic. :)

well, yeah. the thing is, Hindus have a lot of rich history. We believe the great Triad, or trimurti which is a concept where the functions of creations, maintainence and destruction is personified in the form of Brahma as the creator, Vishnu as the maintainer or preserver, and Shiva as the destroyer.

There is a belief in Hindu system that - quote from Geeta-"Whenever virtue declines and unrighteousness rises, I manifest Myself as an embodied being. To protect the Saints and Sages, to destroy the evil-doers and to establish Dharma(righteousness), I am born from age to age."
-Bhagavad Gita 4.7 and 4.8

So all the other Gods are just reincarnations of these three trinities, that were born when the 'Evil reigned the Earth'.

So are Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva all parts of the same god or separate entities altogether? I'm confused.
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6/29/2010 9:29:03 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/29/2010 8:49:14 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
They believe in the Great Brahma which is the equivalent of God.

"I am Brahma, the Great Brahma, the Conqueror, the Unconquered, the All-Seeing, All-Powerful, the Sovereign Lord, the Maker, Creator, Chief, Appointer and Ruler, Father of All That Have Been and Shall Be."

Disclaimer: this description of Great Brahma came from Buddhist scripture, not the Upanishads or Baghavad Gita.
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6/29/2010 9:31:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/29/2010 9:23:14 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:20:23 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:03:34 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:02:18 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 6/29/2010 8:51:19 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/29/2010 8:49:14 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
To make it more confusing, Hindus also believe in Brahman which is the Absolute, even higher than Great Brahma. (Basically, the Pantheist God.)

yeah, that's quite true. Hinduism is huge, its values can't be summarized. it doesn't make it confusing.

You're Hindu, right? it'll be cool if you could offer some of your own insight on this topic. :)

well, yeah. the thing is, Hindus have a lot of rich history. We believe the great Triad, or trimurti which is a concept where the functions of creations, maintainence and destruction is personified in the form of Brahma as the creator, Vishnu as the maintainer or preserver, and Shiva as the destroyer.

There is a belief in Hindu system that - quote from Geeta-"Whenever virtue declines and unrighteousness rises, I manifest Myself as an embodied being. To protect the Saints and Sages, to destroy the evil-doers and to establish Dharma(righteousness), I am born from age to age."
-Bhagavad Gita 4.7 and 4.8

So all the other Gods are just reincarnations of these three trinities, that were born when the 'Evil reigned the Earth'.

So are Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva all parts of the same god or separate entities altogether? I'm confused.

well, they are three different deities which control the functioning of the world.
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6/29/2010 9:33:51 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/29/2010 9:31:59 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:

well, they are three different deities which control the functioning of the world.

How is Hinduism monotheistic then?
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6/29/2010 9:43:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
How is Hinduism monotheistic then?

It is monotheistic because these three dieties are the representation of the one supreme power.

"The One Truth, sages know by many names" (Rig Veda 1.164.46)

"When at first the unborn sprung into being, He won His own dominion beyond which nothing higher has been in existence" (Atharva Veda 10.7.31)

"There is none to compare with Him. There is no parallel to Him, whose glory, verily, is great." (Yajur Veda 32.3)
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6/29/2010 9:44:57 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/29/2010 9:43:37 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:
How is Hinduism monotheistic then?

It is monotheistic because these three dieties are the representation of the one supreme power.

"The One Truth, sages know by many names" (Rig Veda 1.164.46)

"When at first the unborn sprung into being, He won His own dominion beyond which nothing higher has been in existence" (Atharva Veda 10.7.31)

"There is none to compare with Him. There is no parallel to Him, whose glory, verily, is great." (Yajur Veda 32.3)

Oh ok. That makes more sense now. :) That's what I thought, but was just confirming.
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6/30/2010 1:46:10 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/29/2010 9:33:51 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:31:59 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:

well, they are three different deities which control the functioning of the world.

How is Hinduism monotheistic then?

It's like the Trinity.
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6/30/2010 1:55:21 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 1:46:10 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:33:51 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:31:59 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:

well, they are three different deities which control the functioning of the world.

How is Hinduism monotheistic then?

It's like the Trinity.

Oh great, another thing that makes absolutely no sense.
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6/30/2010 3:13:50 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 1:55:21 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/30/2010 1:46:10 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:33:51 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:31:59 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:

well, they are three different deities which control the functioning of the world.

How is Hinduism monotheistic then?

It's like the Trinity.

Oh great, another thing that makes absolutely no sense.

Zetsubou is wrong. It's not like the Trinity because the Trinity is not a manifestation of the same God. God is actually part of the Trinity which is why it makes no sense.

The three deities in Hinduism are all physical manifestation of the same "God" or in this case, Brahman.
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6/30/2010 3:36:36 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 1:46:10 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:33:51 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/29/2010 9:31:59 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:

well, they are three different deities which control the functioning of the world.

How is Hinduism monotheistic then?

It's like the Trinity.

No, it isn't.