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1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.
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1/30/2015 4:32:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Why are you going back to the 1st century. The Jehovah's Witnesses was founded in 1879 by Charles Taze Russell, a Pennsylvania businessman.
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1/30/2015 4:37:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Christianity is a religion that came from God's plan called the beast. Here is a prophecy about Christianity called the "feet of iron and clay".

Daniel 2:
36: "This was the dream; now we will tell the king its interpretation.
37: You, O king, the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, and the might, and the glory,
38: and into whose hand he has given, wherever they dwell, the sons of men, the beasts of the field, and the birds of the air, making you rule over them all -- you are the head of gold.
39: After you shall arise another kingdom inferior to you, and yet a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.
40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

Christianity, Islam, Judaism and all the religions of this world will be destroyed at the end of this age by God's planned program called Eternal Life.
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1/30/2015 4:51:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/30/2015 4:37:53 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Christianity is a religion that came from God's plan called the beast. Here is a prophecy about Christianity called the "feet of iron and clay".

Daniel 2:
36: "This was the dream; now we will tell the king its interpretation.
37: You, O king, the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, and the might, and the glory,
38: and into whose hand he has given, wherever they dwell, the sons of men, the beasts of the field, and the birds of the air, making you rule over them all -- you are the head of gold.
39: After you shall arise another kingdom inferior to you, and yet a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.
40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

Christianity, Islam, Judaism and all the religions of this world will be destroyed at the end of this age by God's planned program called Eternal Life.

You have poor reading skills and your comprehension is even worse. The verses are referring to kingdoms that will be destroyed. It is part of a dream. Christianity, Islam and Judaism are not kingdoms. They are the 3 religions with common roots in Judaism.
This is why without any biblical scholarship you are easily exposed. And without a basic education you are intellectually bankrupt.
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1/30/2015 4:56:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/30/2015 4:51:04 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:37:53 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Christianity is a religion that came from God's plan called the beast. Here is a prophecy about Christianity called the "feet of iron and clay".

Daniel 2:
36: "This was the dream; now we will tell the king its interpretation.
37: You, O king, the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, and the might, and the glory,
38: and into whose hand he has given, wherever they dwell, the sons of men, the beasts of the field, and the birds of the air, making you rule over them all -- you are the head of gold.
39: After you shall arise another kingdom inferior to you, and yet a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.
40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

Christianity, Islam, Judaism and all the religions of this world will be destroyed at the end of this age by God's planned program called Eternal Life.

You have poor reading skills and your comprehension is even worse. The verses are referring to kingdoms that will be destroyed. It is part of a dream. Christianity, Islam and Judaism are not kingdoms. They are the 3 religions with common roots in Judaism.
This is why without any biblical scholarship you are easily exposed. And without a basic education you are intellectually bankrupt.

The "feet of iron and clay" is a symbolic phrase for Christianity. The toes of the feet of iron and clay represent the ten European kingdoms that were used by the Vatican to go out to the rest of the world and steal land, gold, silver and jewels for the Christian cathedrals and the altars that the Christians built with their human hands. At one time, the Vatican owned most of the world's art, too.

The reason Christians deny the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation is because it's about them playing god in this world and stealing all the land and it's materials to build their false gods ( buildings built with human hands. ).

The beast is God's plan to teach His people how to build things so that He could use them as analogies to teach us saints the future and exactly how He created us. Christians do NOT understand this beast.
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1/30/2015 5:55:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/30/2015 4:32:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Why are you going back to the 1st century. The Jehovah's Witnesses was founded in 1879 by Charles Taze Russell, a Pennsylvania businessman.

Because they are spiritual Israel, the True Christians, and thatb started in teh 1st century.

They weren't entirely new. Like Christiainty they were simply a revival of the fath that went before them

The group who becamse known as Christians at some point were a revival of true worship of the God Christ worshipped.

The group who became known as JWs were a revival of a revival that God allowed to die out at the end of the 1st century.

If you see what some of the few who stood out for what truth they knew, yu will see why God allowed it to die until he was ready to have it revived by his son. Why would a God of love make those who wished to eb faithful to him suffer more than needed. He simly used one or two in every generation to keep teh flame aive and provide a Christ-like example to others who followedf them.

Watch the video, the first few minutes explains it.

It's about an hour long but if your are interested in truth that will be othhing, and at the end of it you will at least have a basis for informed decision.
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1/30/2015 5:56:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/30/2015 4:51:04 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:37:53 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Christianity is a religion that came from God's plan called the beast. Here is a prophecy about Christianity called the "feet of iron and clay".

Daniel 2:
36: "This was the dream; now we will tell the king its interpretation.
37: You, O king, the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, and the might, and the glory,
38: and into whose hand he has given, wherever they dwell, the sons of men, the beasts of the field, and the birds of the air, making you rule over them all -- you are the head of gold.
39: After you shall arise another kingdom inferior to you, and yet a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.
40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

Christianity, Islam, Judaism and all the religions of this world will be destroyed at the end of this age by God's planned program called Eternal Life.

You have poor reading skills and your comprehension is even worse. The verses are referring to kingdoms that will be destroyed. It is part of a dream. Christianity, Islam and Judaism are not kingdoms. They are the 3 religions with common roots in Judaism.
This is why without any biblical scholarship you are easily exposed. And without a basic education you are intellectually bankrupt.

Not according to my Open University tutors. That was one thing I was marked very highly on. I think I would rtehr take their word than someone who is as ignorant as you thanks.
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1/30/2015 6:05:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/30/2015 4:56:57 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:51:04 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:37:53 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Christianity is a religion that came from God's plan called the beast. Here is a prophecy about Christianity called the "feet of iron and clay".

Daniel 2:
36: "This was the dream; now we will tell the king its interpretation.
37: You, O king, the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, and the might, and the glory,
38: and into whose hand he has given, wherever they dwell, the sons of men, the beasts of the field, and the birds of the air, making you rule over them all -- you are the head of gold.
39: After you shall arise another kingdom inferior to you, and yet a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.
40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

Christianity, Islam, Judaism and all the religions of this world will be destroyed at the end of this age by God's planned program called Eternal Life.

You have poor reading skills and your comprehension is even worse. The verses are referring to kingdoms that will be destroyed. It is part of a dream. Christianity, Islam and Judaism are not kingdoms. They are the 3 religions with common roots in Judaism.
This is why without any biblical scholarship you are easily exposed. And without a basic education you are intellectually bankrupt.

The "feet of iron and clay" is a symbolic phrase for Christianity. The toes of the feet of iron and clay represent the ten European kingdoms that were used by the Vatican to go out to the rest of the world and steal land, gold, silver and jewels for the Christian cathedrals and the altars that the Christians built with their human hands. At one time, the Vatican owned most of the world's art, too.

The reason Christians deny the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation is because it's about them playing god in this world and stealing all the land and it's materials to build their false gods ( buildings built with human hands. ).

The beast is God's plan to teach His people how to build things so that He could use them as analogies to teach us saints the future and exactly how He created us. Christians do NOT understand this beast.

So it is about kingdoms and not about the 3 big religions. Christians understand apocalyptic messages. That is all the prophets have been preaching, death and destruction. The world is a good place for many. A few homeless destitute bums is not going to ruin a good day with a worldview developed out of some shelter afforded to them from the goodness of society. Bitch to your bad luck if you must.
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1/30/2015 6:12:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/30/2015 6:05:30 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:56:57 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:51:04 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:37:53 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Christianity is a religion that came from God's plan called the beast. Here is a prophecy about Christianity called the "feet of iron and clay".

Daniel 2:
36: "This was the dream; now we will tell the king its interpretation.
37: You, O king, the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, and the might, and the glory,
38: and into whose hand he has given, wherever they dwell, the sons of men, the beasts of the field, and the birds of the air, making you rule over them all -- you are the head of gold.
39: After you shall arise another kingdom inferior to you, and yet a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.
40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

Christianity, Islam, Judaism and all the religions of this world will be destroyed at the end of this age by God's planned program called Eternal Life.

You have poor reading skills and your comprehension is even worse. The verses are referring to kingdoms that will be destroyed. It is part of a dream. Christianity, Islam and Judaism are not kingdoms. They are the 3 religions with common roots in Judaism.
This is why without any biblical scholarship you are easily exposed. And without a basic education you are intellectually bankrupt.

The "feet of iron and clay" is a symbolic phrase for Christianity. The toes of the feet of iron and clay represent the ten European kingdoms that were used by the Vatican to go out to the rest of the world and steal land, gold, silver and jewels for the Christian cathedrals and the altars that the Christians built with their human hands. At one time, the Vatican owned most of the world's art, too.

The reason Christians deny the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation is because it's about them playing god in this world and stealing all the land and it's materials to build their false gods ( buildings built with human hands. ).

The beast is God's plan to teach His people how to build things so that He could use them as analogies to teach us saints the future and exactly how He created us. Christians do NOT understand this beast.

So it is about kingdoms and not about the 3 big religions. Christians understand apocalyptic messages. That is all the prophets have been preaching, death and destruction. The world is a good place for many. A few homeless destitute bums is not going to ruin a good day with a worldview developed out of some shelter afforded to them from the goodness of society. Bitch to your bad luck if you must.

IF you cared for your fellow man the way God says we must, you would be concerned about even one suffering unecesarily..

It is the ones that do care, like me, who God is looking for so we can provide them with hope, and where we can, help.
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1/30/2015 6:21:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/30/2015 6:12:41 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/30/2015 6:05:30 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:56:57 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:51:04 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:37:53 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Christianity is a religion that came from God's plan called the beast. Here is a prophecy about Christianity called the "feet of iron and clay".

Daniel 2:
36: "This was the dream; now we will tell the king its interpretation.
37: You, O king, the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, and the might, and the glory,
38: and into whose hand he has given, wherever they dwell, the sons of men, the beasts of the field, and the birds of the air, making you rule over them all -- you are the head of gold.
39: After you shall arise another kingdom inferior to you, and yet a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.
40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

Christianity, Islam, Judaism and all the religions of this world will be destroyed at the end of this age by God's planned program called Eternal Life.

You have poor reading skills and your comprehension is even worse. The verses are referring to kingdoms that will be destroyed. It is part of a dream. Christianity, Islam and Judaism are not kingdoms. They are the 3 religions with common roots in Judaism.
This is why without any biblical scholarship you are easily exposed. And without a basic education you are intellectually bankrupt.

The "feet of iron and clay" is a symbolic phrase for Christianity. The toes of the feet of iron and clay represent the ten European kingdoms that were used by the Vatican to go out to the rest of the world and steal land, gold, silver and jewels for the Christian cathedrals and the altars that the Christians built with their human hands. At one time, the Vatican owned most of the world's art, too.

The reason Christians deny the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation is because it's about them playing god in this world and stealing all the land and it's materials to build their false gods ( buildings built with human hands. ).

The beast is God's plan to teach His people how to build things so that He could use them as analogies to teach us saints the future and exactly how He created us. Christians do NOT understand this beast.

So it is about kingdoms and not about the 3 big religions. Christians understand apocalyptic messages. That is all the prophets have been preaching, death and destruction. The world is a good place for many. A few homeless destitute bums is not going to ruin a good day with a worldview developed out of some shelter afforded to them from the goodness of society. Bitch to your bad luck if you must.

IF you cared for your fellow man the way God says we must, you would be concerned about even one suffering unecesarily..

It is the ones that do care, like me, who God is looking for so we can provide them with hope, and where we can, help.

You don't provide hope. All you wish for is the apocalyptic promises of doom and gloom which no one has time for. Life is too good and too short already. Why stress over a wooden cross.
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1/30/2015 6:37:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
It is important to note that the 1st and 2nd centuries did not hold complete and total persecution for all Christians in the Roman Empire. Whether you were persecuted and to what extent depended on many things, such as the Emperor ruling at the time and the governor of the location you lived in. Also, Christianity has done some pretty awful stuff over the past 2000 years. The crusades were almost entirely the fault of the pope at the time and the Christian kings that ruled Europe. However, Christianity itself cannot be wholly blamed for this as there were other motives such as money and the potential for more power. The Spanish inquisition, however, in my opinion, a religiously motivated torture and persecution movement that caused the suffering of thousands.
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1/30/2015 6:47:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
One other thing, according to the Christian teaching on the Sanctity of life. Doesn't it seem like it is a very sinful thing to needlessly cling onto your faith and so be killed. It seems like it is against the idea of life being sacred. if you give your own life when it could be saved by openly recanting your faith while secretly still following your original faith sinful as it is wasting life.
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1/30/2015 8:29:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/30/2015 6:05:30 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:56:57 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:51:04 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:37:53 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Christianity is a religion that came from God's plan called the beast. Here is a prophecy about Christianity called the "feet of iron and clay".

Daniel 2:
36: "This was the dream; now we will tell the king its interpretation.
37: You, O king, the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, and the might, and the glory,
38: and into whose hand he has given, wherever they dwell, the sons of men, the beasts of the field, and the birds of the air, making you rule over them all -- you are the head of gold.
39: After you shall arise another kingdom inferior to you, and yet a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.
40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

Christianity, Islam, Judaism and all the religions of this world will be destroyed at the end of this age by God's planned program called Eternal Life.

You have poor reading skills and your comprehension is even worse. The verses are referring to kingdoms that will be destroyed. It is part of a dream. Christianity, Islam and Judaism are not kingdoms. They are the 3 religions with common roots in Judaism.
This is why without any biblical scholarship you are easily exposed. And without a basic education you are intellectually bankrupt.

The "feet of iron and clay" is a symbolic phrase for Christianity. The toes of the feet of iron and clay represent the ten European kingdoms that were used by the Vatican to go out to the rest of the world and steal land, gold, silver and jewels for the Christian cathedrals and the altars that the Christians built with their human hands. At one time, the Vatican owned most of the world's art, too.

The reason Christians deny the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation is because it's about them playing god in this world and stealing all the land and it's materials to build their false gods ( buildings built with human hands. ).

The beast is God's plan to teach His people how to build things so that He could use them as analogies to teach us saints the future and exactly how He created us. Christians do NOT understand this beast.

So it is about kingdoms and not about the 3 big religions. Christians understand apocalyptic messages. That is all the prophets have been preaching, death and destruction. The world is a good place for many. A few homeless destitute bums is not going to ruin a good day with a worldview developed out of some shelter afforded to them from the goodness of society. Bitch to your bad luck if you must.

Christians have never understood the prophecies. They only guess at their own interpretations. Everything that is built by human hands came from God's plan called the beast.
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1/30/2015 10:06:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/30/2015 5:56:53 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:

Not according to my Open University tutors.

The work of Satan, according to you.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
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1/31/2015 6:39:35 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/30/2015 10:06:46 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 1/30/2015 5:56:53 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:

Not according to my Open University tutors.

The work of Satan, according to you.

No, influenced by, not quite the same thing.
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1/31/2015 6:43:34 AM
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At 1/30/2015 6:47:49 PM, Joffley7 wrote:
One other thing, according to the Christian teaching on the Sanctity of life. Doesn't it seem like it is a very sinful thing to needlessly cling onto your faith and so be killed. It seems like it is against the idea of life being sacred. if you give your own life when it could be saved by openly recanting your faith while secretly still following your original faith sinful as it is wasting life.

No, because Christ commanded that his followers do so.

You see we have to prove that teh sanctity of teh life to come is greater than the sanctity of this life, if called on to do so.

Matthew 10:32-42
YLT(i) 32 `Every one, therefore, who shall confess in me before men, I also will confess in him before my Father who is in the heavens; 33 and whoever shall deny me before men, I also will deny him before my Father who is in the heavens. 34 `Ye may not suppose that I came to put peace on the earth; I did not come to put peace, but a sword; 35 for I came to set a man at variance against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, 36 and the enemies of a man are those of his household. 37 `He who is loving father or mother above me, is not worthy of me, and he who is loving son or daughter above me, is not worthy of me, 38 and whoever doth not receive his cross and follow after me, is not worthy of me. 39 `He who found his life shall lose it, and he who lost his life for my sake shall find it. 40 `He who is receiving you doth receive me, and he who is receiving me doth receive Him who sent me, 41 he who is receiving a prophet in the name of a prophet, shall receive a prophet's reward, and he who is receiving a righteous man in the name of a righteous man, shall receive a righteous man's reward, 42 and whoever may give to drink to one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say to you, he may not lose his reward.'

I've highlighted the most relevant phrase.

Christianity isn't supposed to be an "easy ride". Not in this system of things anyway.
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1/31/2015 6:49:38 AM
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At 1/30/2015 6:37:17 PM, Joffley7 wrote:
It is important to note that the 1st and 2nd centuries did not hold complete and total persecution for all Christians in the Roman Empire. Whether you were persecuted and to what extent depended on many things, such as the Emperor ruling at the time and the governor of the location you lived in. Also, Christianity has done some pretty awful stuff over the past 2000 years. The crusades were almost entirely the fault of the pope at the time and the Christian kings that ruled Europe. However, Christianity itself cannot be wholly blamed for this as there were other motives such as money and the potential for more power. The Spanish inquisition, however, in my opinion, a religiously motivated torture and persecution movement that caused the suffering of thousands.

That is very true, then and now.

Christianity cannot be blamed for it at all, because True Chritians would not have been involved in any of it.

True Christians are filled with teh qualities described at Galatians 5:22-23
YLT(i) "22 And the fruit of the Spirit is: Love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, 23 meekness, temperance: against such there is no law;" whihc are indeed teh mark of a true Christian and how we can recognise them.

Just because people call themselves Christian does not mean that Christ accepts them as such, and it's his decision after all. Matthew 7:21-23 YLT(i) "21 `Not every one who is saying to me Lord, lord, shall come into the reign of the heavens; but he who is doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, lord, have we not in thy name prophesied? and in thy name cast out demons? and in thy name done many mighty things? 23 and then I will acknowledge to them, that"I never knew you, depart from me ye who are working lawlessness."

People who loved truth and scriptrue were persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church which was confiscating and burning Bibles in some lands right into the first half ot teh 20th century.

The Bible exposes them for the frauds they are, so they are against people reading it, though they pretend to believe it.
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1/31/2015 10:18:39 AM
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A brief history of the True Scotsman
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1/31/2015 11:51:13 AM
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At 1/31/2015 10:18:39 AM, SNP1 wrote:
A brief history of the True Scotsman

Now that really would be brief, lol.
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1/31/2015 1:11:20 PM
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At 1/30/2015 5:55:42 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:32:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Why are you going back to the 1st century. The Jehovah's Witnesses was founded in 1879 by Charles Taze Russell, a Pennsylvania businessman.

Because they are spiritual Israel, the True Christians, and thatb started in teh 1st century.

They weren't entirely new. Like Christiainty they were simply a revival of the fath that went before them

Oh, BS. If you want to "revive the ancient faith" or "restore the ancient order", you'll have to call Bible things by Bible names, i. e. one must go back to the Bible. 'Tis a mighty funny thing that Peter and Paul, James and John, Matthew and Mark, Luke and Jude never heard of any "WatchTower" ... never heard of any "Jehovah's Witnesses" ... never heard of any "Governing Board" ... never knew of any distinctions among elders ... and on and on.

'Tis the language of Ashdod. You need to drop all of the man-made names and go back to the Bible.
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1/31/2015 1:56:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/31/2015 1:11:20 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/30/2015 5:55:42 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:32:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Why are you going back to the 1st century. The Jehovah's Witnesses was founded in 1879 by Charles Taze Russell, a Pennsylvania businessman.

Because they are spiritual Israel, the True Christians, and thatb started in teh 1st century.

They weren't entirely new. Like Christiainty they were simply a revival of the fath that went before them

Oh, BS. If you want to "revive the ancient faith" or "restore the ancient order", you'll have to call Bible things by Bible names, i. e. one must go back to the Bible. 'Tis a mighty funny thing that Peter and Paul, James and John, Matthew and Mark, Luke and Jude never heard of any "WatchTower" ... never heard of any "Jehovah's Witnesses" ... never heard of any "Governing Board" ... never knew of any distinctions among elders ... and on and on.

'Tis the language of Ashdod. You need to drop all of the man-made names and go back to the Bible.

As I have shown you in the past it is a thoroughly Biblical name een if you don;t want to accept it.

God has accepted it and that is all that matters, just as he accepted the name Christian, whihc may even have been dereamed up by an opposer for all we know. God simply knew them, as he knows the JWs as "Spiritual Israel".
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1/31/2015 4:07:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/31/2015 1:56:57 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2015 1:11:20 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/30/2015 5:55:42 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:32:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Why are you going back to the 1st century. The Jehovah's Witnesses was founded in 1879 by Charles Taze Russell, a Pennsylvania businessman.

Because they are spiritual Israel, the True Christians, and thatb started in teh 1st century.

They weren't entirely new. Like Christiainty they were simply a revival of the fath that went before them

Oh, BS. If you want to "revive the ancient faith" or "restore the ancient order", you'll have to call Bible things by Bible names, i. e. one must go back to the Bible. 'Tis a mighty funny thing that Peter and Paul, James and John, Matthew and Mark, Luke and Jude never heard of any "WatchTower" ... never heard of any "Jehovah's Witnesses" ... never heard of any "Governing Board" ... never knew of any distinctions among elders ... and on and on.

'Tis the language of Ashdod. You need to drop all of the man-made names and go back to the Bible.

As I have shown you in the past it is a thoroughly Biblical name een if you don;t want to accept it.

Really?

Give us the passage that mentions such a thing as the WatchTower Society.
Give us the passage that mentions Jehovah's Witnesses as an appellation for New Testament Christians.
Give us the passage that mentions something about "traveling elders".
Give us the passages that teach that a centralized body (as opposed to the local congregations) dispatching missionaries.
Give us the passage(s) that demonstrate that Christians in the first century worsihped with instrumental music.

When you are done with those five, I have five more, and five more after that.
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1/31/2015 5:17:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/31/2015 4:07:33 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/31/2015 1:56:57 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2015 1:11:20 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/30/2015 5:55:42 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:32:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Why are you going back to the 1st century. The Jehovah's Witnesses was founded in 1879 by Charles Taze Russell, a Pennsylvania businessman.

Because they are spiritual Israel, the True Christians, and thatb started in teh 1st century.

They weren't entirely new. Like Christiainty they were simply a revival of the fath that went before them

Oh, BS. If you want to "revive the ancient faith" or "restore the ancient order", you'll have to call Bible things by Bible names, i. e. one must go back to the Bible. 'Tis a mighty funny thing that Peter and Paul, James and John, Matthew and Mark, Luke and Jude never heard of any "WatchTower" ... never heard of any "Jehovah's Witnesses" ... never heard of any "Governing Board" ... never knew of any distinctions among elders ... and on and on.

'Tis the language of Ashdod. You need to drop all of the man-made names and go back to the Bible.

As I have shown you in the past it is a thoroughly Biblical name een if you don;t want to accept it.

Really?

Give us the passage that mentions such a thing as the WatchTower Society.
Give us the passage that mentions Jehovah's Witnesses as an appellation for New Testament Christians.
Give us the passage that mentions something about "traveling elders".
Give us the passages that teach that a centralized body (as opposed to the local congregations) dispatching missionaries.
Give us the passage(s) that demonstrate that Christians in the first century worsihped with instrumental music.

When you are done with those five, I have five more, and five more after that.

Just because it isn't mentioned doesn't mean it didn't happen. There were many things happened in tos 66.75 years that didn't get written down.

We have had all these arguments before and I have shown you how wrong you are and how you are simply being Pharisaic over the use of a term to decscribe what teh JWs do in imitation of Christ and teh pApostles. there really is no point in going thrugh it all again because you wouldn't accept it if Christ himself told you, which he may well do one day, in your judgement.

I am fortunate, I get my judgement every day , so I always know when I've gone wrong. It gives me chance to put it rght before it is too late.

God and Christ don't ilke loosing thier servants without giving us a chance to correct our errors.

Like Paul said, God's spirit bears witness with my spirit, for good or ill.
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1/31/2015 6:25:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/31/2015 5:17:02 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2015 4:07:33 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/31/2015 1:56:57 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2015 1:11:20 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/30/2015 5:55:42 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:32:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Why are you going back to the 1st century. The Jehovah's Witnesses was founded in 1879 by Charles Taze Russell, a Pennsylvania businessman.

Because they are spiritual Israel, the True Christians, and thatb started in teh 1st century.

They weren't entirely new. Like Christiainty they were simply a revival of the fath that went before them

Oh, BS. If you want to "revive the ancient faith" or "restore the ancient order", you'll have to call Bible things by Bible names, i. e. one must go back to the Bible. 'Tis a mighty funny thing that Peter and Paul, James and John, Matthew and Mark, Luke and Jude never heard of any "WatchTower" ... never heard of any "Jehovah's Witnesses" ... never heard of any "Governing Board" ... never knew of any distinctions among elders ... and on and on.

'Tis the language of Ashdod. You need to drop all of the man-made names and go back to the Bible.

As I have shown you in the past it is a thoroughly Biblical name een if you don;t want to accept it.

Really?

Give us the passage that mentions such a thing as the WatchTower Society.
Give us the passage that mentions Jehovah's Witnesses as an appellation for New Testament Christians.
Give us the passage that mentions something about "traveling elders".
Give us the passages that teach that a centralized body (as opposed to the local congregations) dispatching missionaries.
Give us the passage(s) that demonstrate that Christians in the first century worsihped with instrumental music.

When you are done with those five, I have five more, and five more after that.

Just because it isn't mentioned doesn't mean it didn't happen. There were many things happened in tos 66.75 years that didn't get written down.

LMAO. So the entire outfit is based upon an "it is NOT written." That freakin' figures. Every humanly-devised denomination is based upon what the scriptures do not say.

Notice that you didn't provide a single passage - and you won't.
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1/31/2015 9:57:28 PM
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At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

"nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house." Except apparently God - according to the JW he lighted the lamp then let it be hidden for s couple millenia.
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2/1/2015 6:51:12 AM
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At 1/31/2015 9:57:28 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

"nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house." Except apparently God - according to the JW he lighted the lamp then let it be hidden for s couple millenia.

That isn't true.

If uy look at history he always had one or two standing up for it, and generally getting burned at the stake for thier trouble.

Howver what was the point in trying to spread it wider until the tme for the removal of Satan's influence was due? Europe would just have been a succession of bonfires.

Only in the last 100+ years have we been close enough to teh end to need all to be warned of what is cming and givent the chance to escape it.

Methods of shining the light have now been just about perfected, including the 3 internet sites, so it will soon be time to say "enough" and bring Satan's reign to a permenant end.
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2/1/2015 6:53:31 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/31/2015 6:25:06 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/31/2015 5:17:02 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2015 4:07:33 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/31/2015 1:56:57 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2015 1:11:20 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/30/2015 5:55:42 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:32:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Why are you going back to the 1st century. The Jehovah's Witnesses was founded in 1879 by Charles Taze Russell, a Pennsylvania businessman.

Because they are spiritual Israel, the True Christians, and thatb started in teh 1st century.

They weren't entirely new. Like Christiainty they were simply a revival of the fath that went before them

Oh, BS. If you want to "revive the ancient faith" or "restore the ancient order", you'll have to call Bible things by Bible names, i. e. one must go back to the Bible. 'Tis a mighty funny thing that Peter and Paul, James and John, Matthew and Mark, Luke and Jude never heard of any "WatchTower" ... never heard of any "Jehovah's Witnesses" ... never heard of any "Governing Board" ... never knew of any distinctions among elders ... and on and on.

'Tis the language of Ashdod. You need to drop all of the man-made names and go back to the Bible.

As I have shown you in the past it is a thoroughly Biblical name een if you don;t want to accept it.

Really?

Give us the passage that mentions such a thing as the WatchTower Society.
Give us the passage that mentions Jehovah's Witnesses as an appellation for New Testament Christians.
Give us the passage that mentions something about "traveling elders".
Give us the passages that teach that a centralized body (as opposed to the local congregations) dispatching missionaries.
Give us the passage(s) that demonstrate that Christians in the first century worsihped with instrumental music.

When you are done with those five, I have five more, and five more after that.

Just because it isn't mentioned doesn't mean it didn't happen. There were many things happened in tos 66.75 years that didn't get written down.

LMAO. So the entire outfit is based upon an "it is NOT written." That freakin' figures. Every humanly-devised denomination is based upon what the scriptures do not say.

Notice that you didn't provide a single passage - and you won't.

No it is based in teh passages I have shown you in the past whihc you continue to deny, but my point hold.

You cling to your false beliefs like a lipit to a rock, because yuo are too bigoted to even try to understand.
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2/1/2015 7:31:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/1/2015 6:53:31 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2015 6:25:06 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/31/2015 5:17:02 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2015 4:07:33 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/31/2015 1:56:57 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2015 1:11:20 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/30/2015 5:55:42 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:32:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Why are you going back to the 1st century. The Jehovah's Witnesses was founded in 1879 by Charles Taze Russell, a Pennsylvania businessman.

Because they are spiritual Israel, the True Christians, and thatb started in teh 1st century.

They weren't entirely new. Like Christiainty they were simply a revival of the fath that went before them

Oh, BS. If you want to "revive the ancient faith" or "restore the ancient order", you'll have to call Bible things by Bible names, i. e. one must go back to the Bible. 'Tis a mighty funny thing that Peter and Paul, James and John, Matthew and Mark, Luke and Jude never heard of any "WatchTower" ... never heard of any "Jehovah's Witnesses" ... never heard of any "Governing Board" ... never knew of any distinctions among elders ... and on and on.

'Tis the language of Ashdod. You need to drop all of the man-made names and go back to the Bible.

As I have shown you in the past it is a thoroughly Biblical name een if you don;t want to accept it.

Really?

Give us the passage that mentions such a thing as the WatchTower Society.
Give us the passage that mentions Jehovah's Witnesses as an appellation for New Testament Christians.
Give us the passage that mentions something about "traveling elders".
Give us the passages that teach that a centralized body (as opposed to the local congregations) dispatching missionaries.
Give us the passage(s) that demonstrate that Christians in the first century worsihped with instrumental music.

When you are done with those five, I have five more, and five more after that.

Just because it isn't mentioned doesn't mean it didn't happen. There were many things happened in tos 66.75 years that didn't get written down.

LMAO. So the entire outfit is based upon an "it is NOT written." That freakin' figures. Every humanly-devised denomination is based upon what the scriptures do not say.

Notice that you didn't provide a single passage - and you won't.

No it is based in teh passages I have shown you in the past whihc you continue to deny, but my point hold.

You cling to your false beliefs like a lipit to a rock, because yuo are too bigoted to even try to understand.

Notice that it would have taken a total of maybe two minutes to cite the passages, yet none were given.

Give us the passage that mentions such a thing as the WatchTower Society.
Give us the passage that mentions Jehovah's Witnesses as an appellation for New Testament Christians.
Give us the passage that mentions something about "traveling elders".
Give us the passages that teach that a centralized body (as opposed to the local congregations) dispatching missionaries.
Give us the passage(s) that demonstrate that Christians in the first century worsihped with instrumental music.
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2/1/2015 8:49:50 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/1/2015 7:31:23 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 2/1/2015 6:53:31 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2015 6:25:06 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/31/2015 5:17:02 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2015 4:07:33 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/31/2015 1:56:57 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2015 1:11:20 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 1/30/2015 5:55:42 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:32:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/30/2015 4:27:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Well, I found this video interesting anyway, since it is a history of True Christianity from the 1st century onward.

http://tv.jw.org...

It draw attention to loyal servants of Christ, who, though they were ignorant of many truths, stuck up for those they recognised, until death by being burned at the stake in some cases.

Please pick a point out of it to discuss if you wish.

Why are you going back to the 1st century. The Jehovah's Witnesses was founded in 1879 by Charles Taze Russell, a Pennsylvania businessman.

Because they are spiritual Israel, the True Christians, and thatb started in teh 1st century.

They weren't entirely new. Like Christiainty they were simply a revival of the fath that went before them

Oh, BS. If you want to "revive the ancient faith" or "restore the ancient order", you'll have to call Bible things by Bible names, i. e. one must go back to the Bible. 'Tis a mighty funny thing that Peter and Paul, James and John, Matthew and Mark, Luke and Jude never heard of any "WatchTower" ... never heard of any "Jehovah's Witnesses" ... never heard of any "Governing Board" ... never knew of any distinctions among elders ... and on and on.

'Tis the language of Ashdod. You need to drop all of the man-made names and go back to the Bible.

As I have shown you in the past it is a thoroughly Biblical name een if you don;t want to accept it.

Really?

Give us the passage that mentions such a thing as the WatchTower Society.
Give us the passage that mentions Jehovah's Witnesses as an appellation for New Testament Christians.
Give us the passage that mentions something about "traveling elders".
Give us the passages that teach that a centralized body (as opposed to the local congregations) dispatching missionaries.
Give us the passage(s) that demonstrate that Christians in the first century worsihped with instrumental music.

When you are done with those five, I have five more, and five more after that.

Just because it isn't mentioned doesn't mean it didn't happen. There were many things happened in tos 66.75 years that didn't get written down.

LMAO. So the entire outfit is based upon an "it is NOT written." That freakin' figures. Every humanly-devised denomination is based upon what the scriptures do not say.

Notice that you didn't provide a single passage - and you won't.

No it is based in teh passages I have shown you in the past whihc you continue to deny, but my point hold.

You cling to your false beliefs like a lipit to a rock, because yuo are too bigoted to even try to understand.

Notice that it would have taken a total of maybe two minutes to cite the passages, yet none were given.

Give us the passage that mentions such a thing as the WatchTower Society.
Give us the passage that mentions Jehovah's Witnesses as an appellation for New Testament Christians.
Give us the passage that mentions something about "traveling elders".
Give us the passages that teach that a centralized body (as opposed to the local congregations) dispatching missionaries.
Give us the passage(s) that demonstrate that Christians in the first century worsihped with instrumental music.

Any relevant passages have been given to you a number of times but you aren;'t interested in anything that doesn't agree with what your Apostate teachers.

Scripture is God's word. His message to us to explain many things. It s not an intellectual excersice as All Apostates tend to view it, especially Apostates like Justin, etc.

It is true that all of teh early Brothers were Apostate until they started to learn teh truth, and for a while some of thier ideas still were, but learning takes time, it si not instant, nor should it be, because what is learned too easily is easily forgotten.

Howver they have not had one single Apostate thought for many deaces, which is why the past is the only weapon you have.

Their problem is having to live with their past.

Yours is that you will perish eternally by your present, unless you change your future.

I'm not arguing with you on this any more, it is pointless (Matthew 7:6), because like Peter, unless you forsake your Apostate teachers who are dead now and may well remain so, and go back to basics, you will get nowhere. but destruction.