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7/7/2010 3:06:48 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Furthermore, for the vast majority of religious peeps, religion doesn't interfere with their lives. In fact, for most people, religion enhances their lives, false be it as it may.
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7/7/2010 3:14:03 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
no, but perhaps lack of it should.
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7/7/2010 3:20:23 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:14:03 PM, Marauder wrote:
no, but perhaps lack of it should.

So all atheist babies are mentally ill?
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7/7/2010 3:22:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:20:23 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:14:03 PM, Marauder wrote:
no, but perhaps lack of it should.

So all atheist babies are mentally ill?

there is no such thing
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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7/7/2010 3:25:25 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:06:48 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
Furthermore, for the vast majority of religious peeps, religion doesn't interfere with their lives. In fact, for most people, religion enhances their lives, false be it as it may.

This.
Puck
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7/7/2010 3:26:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
No.

Possible specifics within a religious belief sure - but that's only the flavour of certain aspects, not limited to it.
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7/7/2010 3:26:24 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:19:17 PM, Kinesis wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:14:03 PM, Marauder wrote:
no, but perhaps lack of it should.

Justification?

the same non-existent justification for thinking of Religion as a disease.

also think of this, when a person considers all of life and themselves so worthless that they commit suicide, do they have a healthy does of religous faith? No if they did they would know the creator himself finds value in them and loves them. If athiesm was treated like a disiease dont you think suicide rates would go down.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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7/7/2010 3:26:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:22:52 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:20:23 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:14:03 PM, Marauder wrote:
no, but perhaps lack of it should.

So all atheist babies are mentally ill?

there is no such thing

Yea, I'm pretty sure people aren't born Atheist. Usually a person's beliefs develop over time according to their environment.
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7/7/2010 3:27:12 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:25:25 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:06:48 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
Furthermore, for the vast majority of religious peeps, religion doesn't interfere with their lives. In fact, for most people, religion enhances their lives, false be it as it may.

This.

i thought you were religious?
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Puck
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7/7/2010 3:27:19 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:26:24 PM, Marauder wrote:
If athiesm was treated like a disiease dont you think suicide rates would go down.

lol
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7/7/2010 3:27:53 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:26:52 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:22:52 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:20:23 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:14:03 PM, Marauder wrote:
no, but perhaps lack of it should.

So all atheist babies are mentally ill?

there is no such thing

Yea, I'm pretty sure people aren't born Atheist. Usually a person's beliefs develop over time according to their environment.

atheism is the lack of belief in a god.
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7/7/2010 3:27:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:26:10 PM, Puck wrote:
No.

Possible specifics within a religious belief sure - but that's only the flavour of certain aspects, not limited to it.

I'm pretty sure many of those suicide bomber types are likely mentally ill.
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7/7/2010 3:28:07 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:22:52 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:20:23 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:14:03 PM, Marauder wrote:
no, but perhaps lack of it should.

So all atheist babies are mentally ill?

there is no such thing

Babies aren't religious and they don't believe in God.
You said lack of religion should be considered mentally ill. Babies lack religion.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
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"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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7/7/2010 3:28:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:27:12 PM, badger wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:25:25 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:06:48 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
Furthermore, for the vast majority of religious peeps, religion doesn't interfere with their lives. In fact, for most people, religion enhances their lives, false be it as it may.

This.

i thought you were religious?

I am.
Marauder
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7/7/2010 3:28:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:26:24 PM, Marauder wrote:
If athiesm was treated like a disiease dont you think suicide rates would go down.

Darnit I just remembered the Jim Jones incedent. never mind, religious people can commit suicide too. after all why should the saying "too much of a good thing is bad" not apply hear as well.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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7/7/2010 3:29:05 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:28:10 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:27:12 PM, badger wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:25:25 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:06:48 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
Furthermore, for the vast majority of religious peeps, religion doesn't interfere with their lives. In fact, for most people, religion enhances their lives, false be it as it may.

This.

i thought you were religious?

I am.

but you accept that it's false?
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Atheism
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7/7/2010 3:29:38 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:22:52 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:20:23 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:14:03 PM, Marauder wrote:
no, but perhaps lack of it should.

So all babies are mentally ill?
Fix'd.
there is no such thing
Actually, there are too things such as babies. And everyone is atheist at birth. You are not born with the concept of God.
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Marauder
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7/7/2010 3:29:41 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:28:07 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:22:52 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:20:23 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:14:03 PM, Marauder wrote:
no, but perhaps lack of it should.

So all atheist babies are mentally ill?

there is no such thing

Babies aren't religious and they don't believe in God.
You said lack of religion should be considered mentally ill. Babies lack religion.

babies believe in God, just ask one.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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7/7/2010 3:30:24 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:29:05 PM, badger wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:28:10 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:27:12 PM, badger wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:25:25 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:06:48 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
Furthermore, for the vast majority of religious peeps, religion doesn't interfere with their lives. In fact, for most people, religion enhances their lives, false be it as it may.

This.

i thought you were religious?

I am.

but you accept that it's false?

No, I never said that. I was agreeing with poejoe that religion can be a factor in enhancing many people's lives.
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7/7/2010 3:31:23 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:29:38 PM, Atheism wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:22:52 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:20:23 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:14:03 PM, Marauder wrote:
no, but perhaps lack of it should.

So all babies are mentally ill?
Fix'd.
there is no such thing
Actually, there are too things such as babies. And everyone is atheist at birth. You are not born with the concept of God.

sure you are. its not tell you are older that you learn to delude yourself there is not one. At birth you have no reason to not grasp the obvious fact that God exist.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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7/7/2010 3:32:24 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:26:24 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:19:17 PM, Kinesis wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:14:03 PM, Marauder wrote:
no, but perhaps lack of it should.

Justification?

the same non-existent justification for thinking of Religion as a disease.

Uh...so, there isn't one then.

also think of this, when a person considers all of life and themselves so worthless that they commit suicide, do they have a healthy does of religous faith? No if they did they would know the creator himself finds value in them and loves them. If athiesm was treated like a disiease dont you think suicide rates would go down.

I have no idea. Are there any reliable studies demonstrating atheism as a significant causal factor in suicide rates?
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7/7/2010 3:33:03 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:28:22 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:26:24 PM, Marauder wrote:
If athiesm was treated like a disiease dont you think suicide rates would go down.

Darnit I just remembered the Jim Jones incedent. never mind, religious people can commit suicide too. after all why should the saying "too much of a good thing is bad" not apply hear as well.

As much as I like calling religious groups "cults," Jim Jones is not a religion.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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7/7/2010 3:33:04 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 2:56:28 PM, FREEDO wrote:
A mental disorder?

Note: I'm not making a statement, just looking for opinions.

It doesn't meet the clinical definition.

To be considered a psychological disorder, the behavior must be disturbing, maladaptive, unjustifiable, and atypical.

The first three are debatable, but religion simply is not atypical.
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7/7/2010 3:33:30 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:27:53 PM, badger wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:26:52 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:22:52 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:20:23 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:14:03 PM, Marauder wrote:
no, but perhaps lack of it should.

So all atheist babies are mentally ill?

there is no such thing

Yea, I'm pretty sure people aren't born Atheist. Usually a person's beliefs develop over time according to their environment.

atheism is the lack of belief in a god.

No its a freverent faith in itself. Otherwise you would have evangelist for that faith such as Hitchens, Dawkins, Alberts.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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7/7/2010 3:36:08 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:33:03 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:28:22 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:26:24 PM, Marauder wrote:
If athiesm was treated like a disiease dont you think suicide rates would go down.

Darnit I just remembered the Jim Jones incedent. never mind, religious people can commit suicide too. after all why should the saying "too much of a good thing is bad" not apply hear as well.

As much as I like calling religious groups "cults," Jim Jones is not a religion.

of course his name is not a religion, but never the less the people following him had what you could call 'religion' and commited suicide. so the point still stands.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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7/7/2010 3:36:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 3:33:30 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:27:53 PM, badger wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:26:52 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:22:52 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:20:23 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/7/2010 3:14:03 PM, Marauder wrote:
no, but perhaps lack of it should.

So all atheist babies are mentally ill?

there is no such thing

Yea, I'm pretty sure people aren't born Atheist. Usually a person's beliefs develop over time according to their environment.

atheism is the lack of belief in a god.

No its a freverent faith in itself. Otherwise you would have evangelist for that faith such as Hitchens, Dawkins, Alberts.

A faith in what?