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cjl
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7/7/2010 4:07:20 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I feel the Bible may not be as great as it is made up to be. I feel that because it is a secondhand account, it may not truly be what God says, feels, does, ect.

What do you guys think?
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7/7/2010 4:11:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 4:10:21 PM, Exasperated_Youth wrote:
Isn't there a quote along these lines?
"The Bible didn't arrive by fax from Heaven"

"The bible is completely man made"
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7/7/2010 4:12:55 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 4:11:40 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 7/7/2010 4:10:21 PM, Exasperated_Youth wrote:
Isn't there a quote along these lines?
"The Bible didn't arrive by fax from Heaven"

"The bible is completely man made"

If it is man made, can we trust it if it may have changes or alterations as to the real feelings of God?
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7/7/2010 4:14:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 4:11:40 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 7/7/2010 4:10:21 PM, Exasperated_Youth wrote:
Isn't there a quote along these lines?
"The Bible didn't arrive by fax from Heaven"

"The bible is completely man made"
Support yo claim, foo.
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7/7/2010 4:15:35 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 4:12:55 PM, cjl wrote:
At 7/7/2010 4:11:40 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 7/7/2010 4:10:21 PM, Exasperated_Youth wrote:
Isn't there a quote along these lines?
"The Bible didn't arrive by fax from Heaven"

"The bible is completely man made"

If it is man made, can we trust it if it may have changes or alterations as to the real feelings of God?

It was originally divinely inspired, but people started altering and adding things. Like most of the stuff in the New Testament was written about 200 years after Jesus' death.
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7/7/2010 4:22:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 4:15:35 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
It was originally divinely inspired, but people started altering and adding things. Like most of the stuff in the New Testament was written about 200 years after Jesus' death.
Is that what Islam teaches you? Cause the NT was written/completed 90 years after Jesus.
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7/7/2010 4:23:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 4:15:35 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/7/2010 4:12:55 PM, cjl wrote:
At 7/7/2010 4:11:40 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 7/7/2010 4:10:21 PM, Exasperated_Youth wrote:
Isn't there a quote along these lines?
"The Bible didn't arrive by fax from Heaven"

"The bible is completely man made"

If it is man made, can we trust it if it may have changes or alterations as to the real feelings of God?

It was originally divinely inspired, but people started altering and adding things. Like most of the stuff in the New Testament was written about 200 years after Jesus' death.

Lol.

Question: so if the bible is so corrupted why do Muslims accept any of it? Why do you even accept that Jesus was a prophet? How do you know which parts or corrupted and which parts are not?
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7/7/2010 4:24:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 4:22:59 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/7/2010 4:15:35 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
It was originally divinely inspired, but people started altering and adding things. Like most of the stuff in the New Testament was written about 200 years after Jesus' death.
Is that what Islam teaches you? Cause the NT was written/completed 90 years after Jesus.

Oh ok. 90 years. I wasn't sure exactly of how large the gap was.
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7/7/2010 4:38:37 PM
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I agree. Have a look at the Jefferson Bible.
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7/7/2010 9:16:34 PM
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At 7/7/2010 7:47:09 PM, cjl wrote:
I trust what I learn personally with God.

I trust what I learn personally from life.
Is there are difference?
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7/7/2010 9:42:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 4:07:20 PM, cjl wrote:
I feel the Bible may not be as great as it is made up to be.

What do you guys think?

I think you might be on to something.
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7/7/2010 9:58:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 4:07:20 PM, cjl wrote:
I feel the Bible may not be as great as it is made up to be. I feel that because it is a secondhand account, it may not truly be what God says, feels, does, ect.

What do you guys think?

I think that this has been pretty much thought about since.... well, ever since the Bible existed. But I still agree with you. The bible isn't great. It's contradictory, delusional, deluded, illogical, irrational, etc.
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7/8/2010 2:01:00 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
1)
It's generally known that there were a group of people, in the earlier days of Christianity, who chose which things to put into the bible, amongst that the gospels.
You might've heard references concerning the 33 years of the life of Jesus that were untold, because the bible skips it. Some believe it's concerning his human life, etc., but since it would undermine his status as a "Super-being", "God", etc., it's been purposely left out.
There's also a lot of controversy regarding Maria Magdelena, whether she was a whore or the wife of Jesus.
http://wiki.answers.com...

2) Not only was the bible hand-made, but there are so many opposites in it. Sodoma and Gomorrah was trashed due to sodomy and incest, etc., and yet Lok was spared with his daughters, who then had sex with him to concieve a child. http://en.wikipedia.org...

3) Also, the above is presuming the the bible is "true", in the sense that Jesus DID exist and God does/did too. There are no proof that God exists and while there's no disproof either it DOES NOT mean that it's 50/50 chance. There's still probability to take into account and that is much lower.

Personally, I could never follow anything so uncertain. And perhaps the greatest question ever: why do you need to be religious?
I asked myself this some time ago, upon wondering which religion I should belong to. I realised I didn't have to choose one.

At 7/7/2010 4:07:20 PM, cjl wrote:
I feel the Bible may not be as great as it is made up to be. I feel that because it is a secondhand account, it may not truly be what God says, feels, does, ect.

What do you guys think?
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7/8/2010 10:35:09 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/8/2010 6:16:13 AM, tkubok wrote:
At 7/7/2010 7:47:09 PM, cjl wrote:
I trust what I learn personally with God.

So God talks to you?

No, he more strives for a personal relationship with God rather than following dogma laid down in a book.
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7/8/2010 1:33:27 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 9:42:31 PM, Freeman wrote:
At 7/7/2010 4:07:20 PM, cjl wrote:
I feel the Bible may not be as great as it is made up to be.

What do you guys think?

I think you might be on to something.

Thanks.
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7/8/2010 1:55:07 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/8/2010 10:35:09 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/8/2010 6:16:13 AM, tkubok wrote:
At 7/7/2010 7:47:09 PM, cjl wrote:
I trust what I learn personally with God.

So God talks to you?

No, he more strives for a personal relationship with God rather than following dogma laid down in a book.

Nicely said.
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7/8/2010 1:56:15 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/8/2010 1:55:07 PM, innomen wrote:
At 7/8/2010 10:35:09 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/8/2010 6:16:13 AM, tkubok wrote:
At 7/7/2010 7:47:09 PM, cjl wrote:
I trust what I learn personally with God.

So God talks to you?

No, he more strives for a personal relationship with God rather than following dogma laid down in a book.

Nicely said.

Yea, I'm kind of the same way. I'm not very dogmatic. I more strive for a personal relationship with God.
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7/8/2010 8:30:46 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 4:07:20 PM, cjl wrote:
I feel the Bible may not be as great as it is made up to be. I feel that because it is a secondhand account, it may not truly be what God says, feels, does, ect.

What do you guys think?

The Bible is undoubtedly one of the worst, most heinous works of man.
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7/8/2010 10:53:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
That is EXACTLY when you need to wonder if God truly exists. Consider the world and then consider yourself. Why should YOU get signs? And indirect ones at that.

Why are YOU speciel enough to recieve attention, indirectly.
What about the millions of starving people around the globe?

Have you ever considered the it might not be God, but yourself looking for some comfort in difficult situations and then blame it on God?

Whenever I think, "wow, this is crazy" and remind myself of the likely/unlikelyhood of it and consider my possibilities and my station. I'm not a constructor, so when the house creaks it's possibly just because it's old, NOT because it's a ghost.

One thing that is fascinating. You see it in the animal kingdom.
An animal is on the ground, chilling. It hears something in the bushes. Either it's just the wind or it could be a predator.

If it assumes it's just the wind, the chance of survival, when it turns out to be a predator, is less, but assuming right away that it's a predator the animal can defend itself.

That might be why man assumes noises come from other entities. But we've progressed so far from our animal-senses, in such a short time, that we haven't gotten used to being on the top on the scale.

Just a side note.

But seriously, consider why you should be chosen to recieve something from God. Question everything. Don't be afraid of the nothingness.
Personally, I think it's an awesome prospect of being dead, lying in the ground and letting animals eat me!!!! xD I'll be a part of everything.

At 7/8/2010 1:58:21 PM, cjl wrote:
God usually gives me indirect signs, that I just know are his. Not sure why.
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7/8/2010 10:56:41 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Why worship at all.

Just because God cannot be disproven doesn't mean he exists. There's still the probability to account for.

Also, what did God do for you? Has he proven he exists directly to you, without a doubt? If not, you might be better of worshipping your favourite band, as they've done more for you.

Why do you NEED to worship anything? And if so, why not worship the old norse gods, Thor and Odin and all those? Why not Islam or buddhism?

At 7/8/2010 8:52:05 AM, innomen wrote:
It's a book written with great spiritual insight punctuated with great human defect. Better to worship God than a book.
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7/8/2010 11:02:27 PM
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I strive for a personal relationship with Bugs Bunny. (he's kinda the man)

what would Bugs do?
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7/9/2010 1:59:50 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/8/2010 11:02:27 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
I strive for a personal relationship with Bugs Bunny. (he's kinda the man)

what would Bugs do?

Eat a carrot and then proceed to use reverse psychology to get you shot.
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7/9/2010 7:38:33 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/8/2010 8:30:46 PM, JustCallMeTarzan wrote:
At 7/7/2010 4:07:20 PM, cjl wrote:
I feel the Bible may not be as great as it is made up to be. I feel that because it is a secondhand account, it may not truly be what God says, feels, does, ect.

What do you guys think?

The Bible is undoubtedly one of the worst, most heinous works of man.

Bien dit.