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2/13/2015 6:47:56 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
In fact Matthew 24 can be viewed either as a triple prophecy or as three prophecies which overlap in places.

No Jesus was very much not hit and miss, but he was answering two very different questions, and one slightly different one, even if the disciples didn't realise they had asked three different questions.

The trouble is that to get the accurate answer you have to ask a specific question, and they didn't. The mixed 3 questions together so Jesus mixed the three answers together.

Matthew 24:3
ASV(i) 3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

What did they ask?

When will these things be? The destruction of the Temple.

What will be the sign of thy coming? Coming n what sense? There are three possible senses, but only one which is as literal as they get. As with other things their understanding had not progressed past some of the Jewish beliefs yet, they still had plenty to learn, but they would learn it. They were still looking for the kingdom to be returned to the Jews, because they still looked on themselves as Jews, just more faithful ones than any other.

They still believe that the local kingdom would be returned to long dean, natural Israel, which was not at all part of the plan. That is why, even after Jesus talk with them recorded at Matthew 24, they could still ask him, as rerecorded at Acts 1:6
ASV(i) 6 They therefore, when they were come together, asked him, saying, Lord, dost thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?

Yes, they had so much to learn, like what Israel was going to be for a start, and I don't mean the counterfeit, and Satanic con trick, we see now. I mean the real Israel, the one that hadn't quite disappeared, the one they represented, a spiritual nation, not a physical one.

And the end of the world?

For the destruction of the Temple, Jesus gave them the signs that Daniel gave in Chapter 9. He added a bit of advice, and expanded on them a little. However the end of the world was a different matter.

The religious world of the Jews was already destroyed, the destruction of the Temple was only a visible event for emphasis as was the destruction of Jerusalem, and the construction of the Dome on the Rock even later on, since the Jews still hadn't taken the hint.

However the whole of Satan's world was to be destroyed and that was an event for long in the future, after all, Satan's world was global. God had simply kept a little pocket of it for himself, Israel, and that was, in physical terms, long gone. All God had was a few individuals who wanted to remain faithful, and it was the first part of them Jesus came to gather in person..

The end of the world, whilst a separate event was tied in to one of Jesus "comings", his return to activity, this time as King, no longer King in waiting, and scripture prophecies that as 1914, which the evidence strongly supports, for those with the eyes to see.

The end of the world, and Jesus real "coming" were the same, and will both happen at Armageddon when Jesus returns in full power to take back the throne that is rightly his from Satan.

That is what Jesus gave us so many sings to watch out for, and they are slowly building up under us now, so obey Christ and stay awake, keep on the watch, because like an earthquake, there will be very little warning, and when the sings are beyond denial it will be too late to escape.
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2/13/2015 8:51:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/13/2015 6:47:56 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In fact Matthew 24 can be viewed either as a triple prophecy or as three prophecies which overlap in places.

No Jesus was very much not hit and miss, but he was answering two very different questions, and one slightly different one, even if the disciples didn't realise they had asked three different questions.

The trouble is that to get the accurate answer you have to ask a specific question, and they didn't. The mixed 3 questions together so Jesus mixed the three answers together.

Matthew 24:3
ASV(i) 3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?


What did they ask?

When will these things be? The destruction of the Temple.

What will be the sign of thy coming? Coming n what sense? There are three possible senses, but only one which is as literal as they get. As with other things their understanding had not progressed past some of the Jewish beliefs yet, they still had plenty to learn, but they would learn it. They were still looking for the kingdom to be returned to the Jews, because they still looked on themselves as Jews, just more faithful ones than any other.

They still believe that the local kingdom would be returned to long dean, natural Israel, which was not at all part of the plan. That is why, even after Jesus talk with them recorded at Matthew 24, they could still ask him, as rerecorded at Acts 1:6
ASV(i) 6 They therefore, when they were come together, asked him, saying, Lord, dost thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?

Yes, they had so much to learn, like what Israel was going to be for a start, and I don't mean the counterfeit, and Satanic con trick, we see now. I mean the real Israel, the one that hadn't quite disappeared, the one they represented, a spiritual nation, not a physical one.

And the end of the world?

For the destruction of the Temple, Jesus gave them the signs that Daniel gave in Chapter 9. He added a bit of advice, and expanded on them a little. However the end of the world was a different matter.

The religious world of the Jews was already destroyed, the destruction of the Temple was only a visible event for emphasis as was the destruction of Jerusalem, and the construction of the Dome on the Rock even later on, since the Jews still hadn't taken the hint.

However the whole of Satan's world was to be destroyed and that was an event for long in the future, after all, Satan's world was global. God had simply kept a little pocket of it for himself, Israel, and that was, in physical terms, long gone. All God had was a few individuals who wanted to remain faithful, and it was the first part of them Jesus came to gather in person..

The end of the world, whilst a separate event was tied in to one of Jesus "comings", his return to activity, this time as King, no longer King in waiting, and scripture prophecies that as 1914, which the evidence strongly supports, for those with the eyes to see.

The end of the world, and Jesus real "coming" were the same, and will both happen at Armageddon when Jesus returns in full power to take back the throne that is rightly his from Satan.

That is what Jesus gave us so many sings to watch out for, and they are slowly building up under us now, so obey Christ and stay awake, keep on the watch, because like an earthquake, there will be very little warning, and when the sings are beyond denial it will be too late to escape.

Only God's saints testified to the invisible Word of God and learned what all the prophecies were about. God's people cannot interpret the prophecies without guessing at what they mean.

This world and it's people refuse to accept the testimonies of God's saints because it was planned to be that way. However, He did choose a few believers who listen to our testimonies but they can only believe. They do not have the faith that it takes to possess the knowledge of God like us saints experience.
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2/13/2015 9:09:28 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/13/2015 6:47:56 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In fact Matthew 24 can be viewed either as a triple prophecy or as three prophecies which overlap in places.

No Jesus was very much not hit and miss, but he was answering two very different questions, and one slightly different one, even if the disciples didn't realise they had asked three different questions.

The trouble is that to get the accurate answer you have to ask a specific question, and they didn't. The mixed 3 questions together so Jesus mixed the three answers together.

Matthew 24:3
ASV(i) 3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?


What did they ask?

When will these things be? The destruction of the Temple.

What will be the sign of thy coming? Coming n what sense? There are three possible senses, but only one which is as literal as they get. As with other things their understanding had not progressed past some of the Jewish beliefs yet, they still had plenty to learn, but they would learn it. They were still looking for the kingdom to be returned to the Jews, because they still looked on themselves as Jews, just more faithful ones than any other.

They still believe that the local kingdom would be returned to long dean, natural Israel, which was not at all part of the plan. That is why, even after Jesus talk with them recorded at Matthew 24, they could still ask him, as rerecorded at Acts 1:6
ASV(i) 6 They therefore, when they were come together, asked him, saying, Lord, dost thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?

Yes, they had so much to learn, like what Israel was going to be for a start, and I don't mean the counterfeit, and Satanic con trick, we see now. I mean the real Israel, the one that hadn't quite disappeared, the one they represented, a spiritual nation, not a physical one.

And the end of the world?

For the destruction of the Temple, Jesus gave them the signs that Daniel gave in Chapter 9. He added a bit of advice, and expanded on them a little. However the end of the world was a different matter.

The religious world of the Jews was already destroyed, the destruction of the Temple was only a visible event for emphasis as was the destruction of Jerusalem, and the construction of the Dome on the Rock even later on, since the Jews still hadn't taken the hint.

However the whole of Satan's world was to be destroyed and that was an event for long in the future, after all, Satan's world was global. God had simply kept a little pocket of it for himself, Israel, and that was, in physical terms, long gone. All God had was a few individuals who wanted to remain faithful, and it was the first part of them Jesus came to gather in person..

The end of the world, whilst a separate event was tied in to one of Jesus "comings", his return to activity, this time as King, no longer King in waiting, and scripture prophecies that as 1914, which the evidence strongly supports, for those with the eyes to see.

The end of the world, and Jesus real "coming" were the same, and will both happen at Armageddon when Jesus returns in full power to take back the throne that is rightly his from Satan.

That is what Jesus gave us so many sings to watch out for, and they are slowly building up under us now, so obey Christ and stay awake, keep on the watch, because like an earthquake, there will be very little warning, and when the sings are beyond denial it will be too late to escape.

Why do multiple people here continue to bring up the gospel of Matthew? According to multiple scholars and reliable sources it was written more than 70 years or so after the alleged death of Jesus. This is not reliable information you are sharing here. It would be like me writing about something I heard via word of mouth from 1940 and publishing it as the "gospel" truth. It doesn't equate to quality historical evidence.
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2/13/2015 9:44:58 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/13/2015 6:47:56 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In fact Matthew 24 can be viewed either as a triple prophecy or as three prophecies which overlap in places.

Matthew 24:3
ASV(i) 3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

And the end of the world?

The religious world of the Jews was already destroyed...

However the whole of Satan's world was to be destroyed ...

The end of the world...

The end of the world, and Jesus real "coming" were the same, and will both happen at Armageddon when Jesus returns in full power to take back the throne that is rightly his from Satan.

That is what Jesus gave us so many sings to watch out for, and they are slowly building up under us now, so obey Christ and stay awake, keep on the watch, because like an earthquake, there will be very little warning, and when the sings are beyond denial it will be too late to escape.

LOL. The truly evil people in the world are the ones who constantly harp on it's destruction/Armageddon with followed up childish threats from Scriptures.
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2/13/2015 10:01:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/13/2015 9:09:28 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 2/13/2015 6:47:56 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In fact Matthew 24 can be viewed either as a triple prophecy or as three prophecies which overlap in places.

No Jesus was very much not hit and miss, but he was answering two very different questions, and one slightly different one, even if the disciples didn't realise they had asked three different questions.

The trouble is that to get the accurate answer you have to ask a specific question, and they didn't. The mixed 3 questions together so Jesus mixed the three answers together.

Matthew 24:3
ASV(i) 3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?


What did they ask?

When will these things be? The destruction of the Temple.

What will be the sign of thy coming? Coming n what sense? There are three possible senses, but only one which is as literal as they get. As with other things their understanding had not progressed past some of the Jewish beliefs yet, they still had plenty to learn, but they would learn it. They were still looking for the kingdom to be returned to the Jews, because they still looked on themselves as Jews, just more faithful ones than any other.

They still believe that the local kingdom would be returned to long dean, natural Israel, which was not at all part of the plan. That is why, even after Jesus talk with them recorded at Matthew 24, they could still ask him, as rerecorded at Acts 1:6
ASV(i) 6 They therefore, when they were come together, asked him, saying, Lord, dost thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?

Yes, they had so much to learn, like what Israel was going to be for a start, and I don't mean the counterfeit, and Satanic con trick, we see now. I mean the real Israel, the one that hadn't quite disappeared, the one they represented, a spiritual nation, not a physical one.

And the end of the world?

For the destruction of the Temple, Jesus gave them the signs that Daniel gave in Chapter 9. He added a bit of advice, and expanded on them a little. However the end of the world was a different matter.

The religious world of the Jews was already destroyed, the destruction of the Temple was only a visible event for emphasis as was the destruction of Jerusalem, and the construction of the Dome on the Rock even later on, since the Jews still hadn't taken the hint.

However the whole of Satan's world was to be destroyed and that was an event for long in the future, after all, Satan's world was global. God had simply kept a little pocket of it for himself, Israel, and that was, in physical terms, long gone. All God had was a few individuals who wanted to remain faithful, and it was the first part of them Jesus came to gather in person..

The end of the world, whilst a separate event was tied in to one of Jesus "comings", his return to activity, this time as King, no longer King in waiting, and scripture prophecies that as 1914, which the evidence strongly supports, for those with the eyes to see.

The end of the world, and Jesus real "coming" were the same, and will both happen at Armageddon when Jesus returns in full power to take back the throne that is rightly his from Satan.

That is what Jesus gave us so many sings to watch out for, and they are slowly building up under us now, so obey Christ and stay awake, keep on the watch, because like an earthquake, there will be very little warning, and when the sings are beyond denial it will be too late to escape.

Why do multiple people here continue to bring up the gospel of Matthew? According to multiple scholars and reliable sources it was written more than 70 years or so after the alleged death of Jesus. This is not reliable information you are sharing here. It would be like me writing about something I heard via word of mouth from 1940 and publishing it as the "gospel" truth. It doesn't equate to quality historical evidence.

Most Christians believe the Bible is the Word of God. They are very confused people who have no knowledge to know that the original writings of the prophets and saints no longer exist. The men who copied and translated from the original writings subtracted and added information to make up their Bible in the way God planned it to make sure that His people remain confused until this first age is over.

Those who believe the written words in the new testament will be totally deceived of what a saint is and why God used them during this first age.
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2/13/2015 10:30:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/13/2015 10:01:51 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 2/13/2015 9:09:28 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 2/13/2015 6:47:56 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In fact Matthew 24 can be viewed either as a triple prophecy or as three prophecies which overlap in places.

No Jesus was very much not hit and miss, but he was answering two very different questions, and one slightly different one, even if the disciples didn't realise they had asked three different questions.

The trouble is that to get the accurate answer you have to ask a specific question, and they didn't. The mixed 3 questions together so Jesus mixed the three answers together.

Matthew 24:3
ASV(i) 3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?


What did they ask?

When will these things be? The destruction of the Temple.

What will be the sign of thy coming? Coming n what sense? There are three possible senses, but only one which is as literal as they get. As with other things their understanding had not progressed past some of the Jewish beliefs yet, they still had plenty to learn, but they would learn it. They were still looking for the kingdom to be returned to the Jews, because they still looked on themselves as Jews, just more faithful ones than any other.

They still believe that the local kingdom would be returned to long dean, natural Israel, which was not at all part of the plan. That is why, even after Jesus talk with them recorded at Matthew 24, they could still ask him, as rerecorded at Acts 1:6
ASV(i) 6 They therefore, when they were come together, asked him, saying, Lord, dost thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?

Yes, they had so much to learn, like what Israel was going to be for a start, and I don't mean the counterfeit, and Satanic con trick, we see now. I mean the real Israel, the one that hadn't quite disappeared, the one they represented, a spiritual nation, not a physical one.

And the end of the world?

For the destruction of the Temple, Jesus gave them the signs that Daniel gave in Chapter 9. He added a bit of advice, and expanded on them a little. However the end of the world was a different matter.

The religious world of the Jews was already destroyed, the destruction of the Temple was only a visible event for emphasis as was the destruction of Jerusalem, and the construction of the Dome on the Rock even later on, since the Jews still hadn't taken the hint.

However the whole of Satan's world was to be destroyed and that was an event for long in the future, after all, Satan's world was global. God had simply kept a little pocket of it for himself, Israel, and that was, in physical terms, long gone. All God had was a few individuals who wanted to remain faithful, and it was the first part of them Jesus came to gather in person..

The end of the world, whilst a separate event was tied in to one of Jesus "comings", his return to activity, this time as King, no longer King in waiting, and scripture prophecies that as 1914, which the evidence strongly supports, for those with the eyes to see.

The end of the world, and Jesus real "coming" were the same, and will both happen at Armageddon when Jesus returns in full power to take back the throne that is rightly his from Satan.

That is what Jesus gave us so many sings to watch out for, and they are slowly building up under us now, so obey Christ and stay awake, keep on the watch, because like an earthquake, there will be very little warning, and when the sings are beyond denial it will be too late to escape.

Why do multiple people here continue to bring up the gospel of Matthew? According to multiple scholars and reliable sources it was written more than 70 years or so after the alleged death of Jesus. This is not reliable information you are sharing here. It would be like me writing about something I heard via word of mouth from 1940 and publishing it as the "gospel" truth. It doesn't equate to quality historical evidence.

Most Christians believe the Bible is the Word of God. They are very confused people who have no knowledge to know that the original writings of the prophets and saints no longer exist. The men who copied and translated from the original writings subtracted and added information to make up their Bible in the way God planned it to make sure that His people remain confused until this first age is over.

Those who believe the written words in the new testament will be totally deceived of what a saint is and why God used them during this first age.
You are a victim of that confusion. God distorted his word so that the knowledge that Adam gained from eating the fruit of knowledge would be neutralized and hence forth only idiots would continue in the Christian tradition.
God led you to alcoholism and after he destroyed your dignity, family and credibility over a period of 29 years which caused you great pain and lots of deep crying. God then took away your musical instruments so you would never enjoy the gift of music.
What you have left are broken memories, a damaged brain and a desperate need to be heard. God has turned you into a liar and a lunatic.
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2/13/2015 10:34:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/13/2015 10:30:27 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/13/2015 10:01:51 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 2/13/2015 9:09:28 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 2/13/2015 6:47:56 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In fact Matthew 24 can be viewed either as a triple prophecy or as three prophecies which overlap in places.

No Jesus was very much not hit and miss, but he was answering two very different questions, and one slightly different one, even if the disciples didn't realise they had asked three different questions.

The trouble is that to get the accurate answer you have to ask a specific question, and they didn't. The mixed 3 questions together so Jesus mixed the three answers together.

Matthew 24:3
ASV(i) 3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?


What did they ask?

When will these things be? The destruction of the Temple.

What will be the sign of thy coming? Coming n what sense? There are three possible senses, but only one which is as literal as they get. As with other things their understanding had not progressed past some of the Jewish beliefs yet, they still had plenty to learn, but they would learn it. They were still looking for the kingdom to be returned to the Jews, because they still looked on themselves as Jews, just more faithful ones than any other.

They still believe that the local kingdom would be returned to long dean, natural Israel, which was not at all part of the plan. That is why, even after Jesus talk with them recorded at Matthew 24, they could still ask him, as rerecorded at Acts 1:6
ASV(i) 6 They therefore, when they were come together, asked him, saying, Lord, dost thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?

Yes, they had so much to learn, like what Israel was going to be for a start, and I don't mean the counterfeit, and Satanic con trick, we see now. I mean the real Israel, the one that hadn't quite disappeared, the one they represented, a spiritual nation, not a physical one.

And the end of the world?

For the destruction of the Temple, Jesus gave them the signs that Daniel gave in Chapter 9. He added a bit of advice, and expanded on them a little. However the end of the world was a different matter.

The religious world of the Jews was already destroyed, the destruction of the Temple was only a visible event for emphasis as was the destruction of Jerusalem, and the construction of the Dome on the Rock even later on, since the Jews still hadn't taken the hint.

However the whole of Satan's world was to be destroyed and that was an event for long in the future, after all, Satan's world was global. God had simply kept a little pocket of it for himself, Israel, and that was, in physical terms, long gone. All God had was a few individuals who wanted to remain faithful, and it was the first part of them Jesus came to gather in person..

The end of the world, whilst a separate event was tied in to one of Jesus "comings", his return to activity, this time as King, no longer King in waiting, and scripture prophecies that as 1914, which the evidence strongly supports, for those with the eyes to see.

The end of the world, and Jesus real "coming" were the same, and will both happen at Armageddon when Jesus returns in full power to take back the throne that is rightly his from Satan.

That is what Jesus gave us so many sings to watch out for, and they are slowly building up under us now, so obey Christ and stay awake, keep on the watch, because like an earthquake, there will be very little warning, and when the sings are beyond denial it will be too late to escape.

Why do multiple people here continue to bring up the gospel of Matthew? According to multiple scholars and reliable sources it was written more than 70 years or so after the alleged death of Jesus. This is not reliable information you are sharing here. It would be like me writing about something I heard via word of mouth from 1940 and publishing it as the "gospel" truth. It doesn't equate to quality historical evidence.

Most Christians believe the Bible is the Word of God. They are very confused people who have no knowledge to know that the original writings of the prophets and saints no longer exist. The men who copied and translated from the original writings subtracted and added information to make up their Bible in the way God planned it to make sure that His people remain confused until this first age is over.

Those who believe the written words in the new testament will be totally deceived of what a saint is and why God used them during this first age.
You are a victim of that confusion. God distorted his word so that the knowledge that Adam gained from eating the fruit of knowledge would be neutralized and hence forth only idiots would continue in the Christian tradition.
God led you to alcoholism and after he destroyed your dignity, family and credibility over a period of 29 years which caused you great pain and lots of deep crying. God then took away your musical instruments so you would never enjoy the gift of music.
What you have left are broken memories, a damaged brain and a desperate need to be heard. God has turned you into a liar and a lunatic.

Why do you hate me so much and attack the knowledge of God that I share in this forum?
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2/13/2015 11:36:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/13/2015 9:09:28 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 2/13/2015 6:47:56 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In fact Matthew 24 can be viewed either as a triple prophecy or as three prophecies which overlap in places.

No Jesus was very much not hit and miss, but he was answering two very different questions, and one slightly different one, even if the disciples didn't realise they had asked three different questions.

The trouble is that to get the accurate answer you have to ask a specific question, and they didn't. The mixed 3 questions together so Jesus mixed the three answers together.

Matthew 24:3
ASV(i) 3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?


What did they ask?

When will these things be? The destruction of the Temple.

What will be the sign of thy coming? Coming n what sense? There are three possible senses, but only one which is as literal as they get. As with other things their understanding had not progressed past some of the Jewish beliefs yet, they still had plenty to learn, but they would learn it. They were still looking for the kingdom to be returned to the Jews, because they still looked on themselves as Jews, just more faithful ones than any other.

They still believe that the local kingdom would be returned to long dean, natural Israel, which was not at all part of the plan. That is why, even after Jesus talk with them recorded at Matthew 24, they could still ask him, as rerecorded at Acts 1:6
ASV(i) 6 They therefore, when they were come together, asked him, saying, Lord, dost thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?

Yes, they had so much to learn, like what Israel was going to be for a start, and I don't mean the counterfeit, and Satanic con trick, we see now. I mean the real Israel, the one that hadn't quite disappeared, the one they represented, a spiritual nation, not a physical one.

And the end of the world?

For the destruction of the Temple, Jesus gave them the signs that Daniel gave in Chapter 9. He added a bit of advice, and expanded on them a little. However the end of the world was a different matter.

The religious world of the Jews was already destroyed, the destruction of the Temple was only a visible event for emphasis as was the destruction of Jerusalem, and the construction of the Dome on the Rock even later on, since the Jews still hadn't taken the hint.

However the whole of Satan's world was to be destroyed and that was an event for long in the future, after all, Satan's world was global. God had simply kept a little pocket of it for himself, Israel, and that was, in physical terms, long gone. All God had was a few individuals who wanted to remain faithful, and it was the first part of them Jesus came to gather in person..

The end of the world, whilst a separate event was tied in to one of Jesus "comings", his return to activity, this time as King, no longer King in waiting, and scripture prophecies that as 1914, which the evidence strongly supports, for those with the eyes to see.

The end of the world, and Jesus real "coming" were the same, and will both happen at Armageddon when Jesus returns in full power to take back the throne that is rightly his from Satan.

That is what Jesus gave us so many sings to watch out for, and they are slowly building up under us now, so obey Christ and stay awake, keep on the watch, because like an earthquake, there will be very little warning, and when the sings are beyond denial it will be too late to escape.

Why do multiple people here continue to bring up the gospel of Matthew? According to multiple scholars and reliable sources it was written more than 70 years or so after the alleged death of Jesus. This is not reliable information you are sharing here. It would be like me writing about something I heard via word of mouth from 1940 and publishing it as the "gospel" truth. It doesn't equate to quality historical evidence.

Your sources aren't very reliable then, not that I am surprised, because it was written, originally in Hebrew in about 41 C. E. and shortly after it's completion translated into Greek, again by Matthew.

I suggest you choose your sources a little better.

The last Gospel written was written by John after his release from Patmos which puts it as about 98 C. C.

Even as an old man, memory would not be a problem, because in holy spirit he will have had the perfect memory aid, and I know from experience how well that works.
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2/13/2015 11:38:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/13/2015 9:44:58 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/13/2015 6:47:56 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In fact Matthew 24 can be viewed either as a triple prophecy or as three prophecies which overlap in places.

Matthew 24:3
ASV(i) 3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

And the end of the world?

The religious world of the Jews was already destroyed...

However the whole of Satan's world was to be destroyed ...

The end of the world...

The end of the world, and Jesus real "coming" were the same, and will both happen at Armageddon when Jesus returns in full power to take back the throne that is rightly his from Satan.

That is what Jesus gave us so many sings to watch out for, and they are slowly building up under us now, so obey Christ and stay awake, keep on the watch, because like an earthquake, there will be very little warning, and when the sings are beyond denial it will be too late to escape.

LOL. The truly evil people in the world are the ones who constantly harp on it's destruction/Armageddon with followed up childish threats from Scriptures.

No, the truly evil ones are the ones who will be destroyed at it.

Truly loving people warn you about what's coming so you can take the way out that God offers.
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2/13/2015 11:53:44 AM
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At 2/13/2015 11:38:12 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 2/13/2015 9:44:58 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/13/2015 6:47:56 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In fact Matthew 24 can be viewed either as a triple prophecy or as three prophecies which overlap in places.

Matthew 24:3
ASV(i) 3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

And the end of the world?

The religious world of the Jews was already destroyed...

However the whole of Satan's world was to be destroyed ...

The end of the world...

The end of the world, and Jesus real "coming" were the same, and will both happen at Armageddon when Jesus returns in full power to take back the throne that is rightly his from Satan.

That is what Jesus gave us so many sings to watch out for, and they are slowly building up under us now, so obey Christ and stay awake, keep on the watch, because like an earthquake, there will be very little warning, and when the sings are beyond denial it will be too late to escape.

LOL. The truly evil people in the world are the ones who constantly harp on it's destruction/Armageddon with followed up childish threats from Scriptures.

No, the truly evil ones are the ones who will be destroyed at it.

Truly loving people warn you about what's coming so you can take the way out that God offers.

All flesh will perish by the end of this age. Every body that still appears to be alive on the last day of this age will perish together in less than an hour.

Only the spirit of man goes on to the New Heaven and Earth.