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3/9/2015 12:35:17 AM
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Conscience and the Bible

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The Bible does not only speak of scientific things, historical, social and moral but also psychological things in life.

(Romans 14:21) "It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak."

Although it is not prohibited in the Bible to eat animal meat, the preceding verse was cited by the apostle Paul as a warning to Christians not to offend fellow Christians. It is a kind of admonition which can be considered psychologically sound and healthfully good.

(I Timothy 4:3-5) "Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."

When it said, "it is good not to eat flesh and to drink wine", [if it is an an offense to anybody]; it does not only speak of social things but of scientific aspects as well. Eating meat or flesh of animals and drinking wine is common to drunkards. The word "flesh" used in the verse is kreas, which means animal meat.

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Perhaps a primary word; (butcher"s) meat: " flesh. (Strong"s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries

Dictionaries of Hebrew and Greek Words taken from Strong"s Exhaustive Concordance by James Strong, S.T.D., LL.D., 1890.)

Scientifically, human beings are not designed to be meat eaters or carnivores. If we study our physical being, our body"s design is very much different from natural meat eaters. Carnivores or meat eaters have fangs designed to kill, sharp claws designed to tear flesh, short intestines (about 3 times the length of its body) for the quick disposal of the waste product of meat containing putrifacted materials. They have highly acidic saliva and digestive enzymes needed for the digestion of flesh, bones, feathers and a remarkable enzyme uricase that digest and expels uric acid, a highly toxic by-product of meat. They have large liver that helps in the detoxification of the chemical by-products of meat. Whereas human beings which is naturally born a frugivore have fangs, but not sharp, meaning it is not intended to kill. Our fingers were not equipped with sharp claws needed to tear flesh. Our intestine is 12 times the length of our body that allows the longer stay of fruits and vegetables without harmless by products (needed for proper and complete assimilation of nutrients in them). Our liver is not as large as those of natural meat eaters because fruits and vegetables and nuts do not have plenty of toxic by-products for the liver to neutralize. Our saliva is alkaline and with little ptyalin needed to digest the small amount of starch in fruits and vegetables.

Considering all these factors we know that we are not natural meat eaters and therefore it is scientifically sound to say it is good (for humans) neither to eat animal flesh nor drink wine.

alcoholic.jpgWine, (those that are intoxicating) is equally not fit for human consumption. Scientific studies show that alcohol and other fermented materials in wine cause a lot of unhealthy effects in the human body.

Heavy alcohol use destroys the liver, the body"s primary filtering system, which means that germs of all kinds won"t leave your body as fast. The result is, heavier drinkers are more prone to initial infections as well as secondary complications. Alcohol also dehydrates the body " it actually takes more fluids from your system than it puts in.

(http://my.webmd.com...)
a02;Alcohol is the number one drug of choice for teenagers.
a02;Alcohol-related car crashes are the number one killer of teenagers in the United States.
a02;Alcohol is the number one drug problem in America

(http://www.sacsheriff.com...)

Nausea and sickness

Too much alcohol can irritate the stomach, leading to sickness and nausea, and can lead to temporary impotence in men.

Alcohol has a dehydrating effect, and the traditional hangover arrives partly as a result.

However, it is the longer term effects which worry doctors.

Too much alcohol over a prolonged period can affect nearly every organ in your body.

Alcohol is essentially a poison, and the cumulative effects can be horrific.

Long term drinkers can suffer liver damage, as the liver is the organ that processes the alcohol and removes it from the body.

Liver damage

There are three types of damage " fatty liver, in which fat is deposited in the liver, impairing its function, alcohol hepatitis, an inflammation of the liver which can cause severe symptoms and lead in some cases to alcoholic cirrhosis, which can eventually cause liver failure if the drinker does not stop.

The first two stages are usually reversible, whereas cirrhosis has no cure.

Heavy drinkers can suffer from chronic gastritis " essentially a daily recurrence of hangover style nausea and sickness. They can also suffer damage to the esophagus.

Pancreatitis is a common problem in heavy drinkers " this is an extremely painful condition which is hard to treat, and sometimes fatal.

Brain damage is also possible in some cases " alcoholic dementia is often found in very long-term drinkers.

Heart disease and stroke

However, it is damage to the heart and circulatory system that place many drinkers at risk. Drinking over the recommended limits is one of the most common causes of high blood pressure, which can contribute to heart disease.

Drinking heavily is also likely to greatly increase the calorific intake, perhaps leading to obesity, which also increases these health risks.

Regularly drinking more than three units of alcohol a day increases the risk of a type of stroke called hemorrhagic stroke.

It can also contribute to osteoporosis, lead to muscle weakness, make skin conditions such as psoriasis and eczema worse.

In men, there is likely to be a loss of libido and potency, shrinking of the testicles and penis, reduced fertility, loss of pubic hair and if cirrhosis is present, increased breast size and loss of body hair.

In women, ovulation may cease, and breasts and sexual organs shrivel.

Many cancers are alcohol-related, particularly those of the mouth, esophagus, liver, stomach, colon, rectum, and perhaps breast cancer in women.

Harming unborn children

Heavy drinking, even in one-off binges, by pregnant women can harm their unborn child.

It can lead to miscarriage, low birth weight, and, in the worst cases, to fetal alcohol syndrome, a group of defects which can include lowered IQ, facial malformations and growth deficiencies.

Many studies have found suggestions that moderate alcohol drinking, for example one or two units a day, can have a protective effect against in particular heart disease.

This has yet to be conclusively proven, as it is not clear whether it is the alcohol, or some other ingredient in the drink, which is having the effect.

( http://news.bbc.co.uk...)

By all these scientific wisdom we may conclude that the Bible is a no nonsense book. But what I admire most in the Bible being the words of the Creator is it can penetrate the depth of one"s being.

(Hebrews 4:12-13) "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do."
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3/9/2015 12:35:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
The words of God are so powerful that it can divide asunder the soul and the spirit meaning that it can penetrate the innermost part of our being. In fact it speaks of the conscience and by this we know that it speaks the truth. My dear readers I know that you have your conscience.

(Romans 2:15) "Which show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another""

You can feel how truthful this pronouncement of the Scriptures. Our conscience bears witness of the existence of God. The Bible exactly tells us what is happening inside our being or in our conscience. It may accuse or excuse our own self and other people. Do you feel the same?

I hope that you will be honest enough in your reply; after all, it is not my business knowing your conscience, but yours. In our conscience also, the Bible tells us that there are"things of the law" written by God. Even if we have not heard the audible voice of our Creator, we know that our conscience can tell us of what is right and what is wrong. Verily, these are the things contained in God"s law: what is right " the dos, and what is wrong " the don"ts.

(Romans 2:14) "For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:"

Considering all these facts do you now agree with me that the Bible does not only speak of scientific but also psychological matters.

God knows our being, He knows our promptings. Solomon, with his God-given wisdom, once judge two quarreling women: each claiming that the baby boy is her son. He rendered judgment and said, "Divide the boy into two." And the real mother gave up her son for it not to be divided.

(I Kings 3:16-27) "Then came there two women, that were harlots, unto the king, and stood before him. And the one woman said, O my lord, I and this woman dwell in one house; and I was delivered of a child with her in the house. And it came to pass the third day after that I was delivered, that this woman was delivered also: and we were together; there was no stranger with us in the house, save we two in the house. And this woman"s child died in the night; because she overlaid it. And she arose at midnight, and took my son from beside me, while thine handmaid slept, and laid it in her bosom, and laid her dead child in my bosom. And when I rose in the morning to give my child suck, behold, it was dead: but when I had considered it in the morning, behold, it was not my son, which I did bear. And the other woman said, Nay; but the living is my son, and the dead is thy son. And this said, No; but the dead is thy son, and the living is my son. Thus they spoke before the king. Then said the king, The one saith, This is my son that liveth, and thy son is the dead: and the other saith, Nay; but thy son is the dead, and my son is the living. And the king said, Bring me a sword. And they brought a sword before the king. And the king said, Divide the living child in two, and give half to the one, and half to the other. Then spoke the woman whose the living child was unto the king, for her bowels yearned upon her son, and she said, O my lord, give her the living child, and in no wise slay it. But the other said, Let it be neither mine nor thine, but divide it. Then the king answered and said, Give her the living child, and in no wise slay it: she is the mother thereof."

Do you now believe that the Bible speaks of psychological matters? What am I trying to prove by narrating all these things? I want you to realize the Bible is a no-nonsense book. It comes from somebody who know even our conscience which cannot be known by the dearest and the most intimate of our relatives. It is known only to God.

(Jeremiah 17:9-10) "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings."

You might say, "So what if there is a God?". I am trying to convince you to believe that we came into existence because of a loving God who is always waiting for us to acknowledge him. There are fools, who do not believe in God.

(Psalms 53:1) "The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good."

eli_soriano06.jpgNo amount of intelligence and knowledge that an atheist may posses can make him a good and better person, than to acknowledge the existence of God who created him and his neighbors. The best men in the whole history of humanity (men with human considerations, pity, justice, loving-kindness, moral aptitude and great leaders) all believe in God. I know that there was once a tyrant and demonic leader who caused the death and unspeakable sufferings of about 9 million people, and that person does not believe in God. Have you heard of Hitler? My advice is that for you to investigate.

My goal in preaching and teaching the Gospel to other people is to convince them to believe in God: the Almighty Creator of heaven and earth, because I know in my conscience, had it not been for my acknowledgment of the existence of a great God, perhaps I would just be like those fine looking people who hide a monster in their conscience. Belief in God will make you a better person, more caring and more considerate to others " and that is the element of a more peaceful society of humans. Unbelief will not make you good, but 100% evil.

(Romans 3:10-18) "As it is written, there is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulcher; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes."

God Bless,
Bro Eli
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3/9/2015 3:37:58 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Jesus enjoyed his wine so much he ensured it didn't run out at the wedding he attended. I wonder what state his liver was in, lol?
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3/9/2015 4:13:47 AM
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At 3/9/2015 3:37:58 AM, JJ50 wrote:
Jesus enjoyed his wine so much he ensured it didn't run out at the wedding he attended. I wonder what state his liver was in, lol?

that liquor not intoxicating..
that is fresh wine...lol
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3/9/2015 4:16:05 AM
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At 3/9/2015 3:37:58 AM, JJ50 wrote:
Jesus enjoyed his wine so much he ensured it didn't run out at the wedding he attended. I wonder what state his liver was in, lol?

Good point !..
Tell me Please where did you learn the wine he made on this his first miracle had alcohol content. Or perhaps you simply made a common error and relate all wine with having an alcohol content without first taking the trouble to find out if this is indeed so ?..
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3/9/2015 4:17:28 AM
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At 3/9/2015 4:13:47 AM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/9/2015 3:37:58 AM, JJ50 wrote:
Jesus enjoyed his wine so much he ensured it didn't run out at the wedding he attended. I wonder what state his liver was in, lol?

that liquor not intoxicating..
that is fresh wine...lol

That is a stupid lie put about by the people who can't bear the idea of Jesus drinking alcohol. Nowhere in the Bible does it say Jesus drank non alcoholic wine!
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3/9/2015 4:21:08 AM
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At 3/9/2015 4:16:05 AM, Angry_Bird wrote:
At 3/9/2015 3:37:58 AM, JJ50 wrote:
Jesus enjoyed his wine so much he ensured it didn't run out at the wedding he attended. I wonder what state his liver was in, lol?

Good point !..
Tell me Please where did you learn the wine he made on this his first miracle had alcohol content. Or perhaps you simply made a common error and relate all wine with having an alcohol content without first taking the trouble to find out if this is indeed so ?..

remember that is miracle wine...not permented
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3/9/2015 4:25:34 AM
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if Jesus Christ can make miracle wine, can make also that wine cannot intoxicating..
Right::;Amen
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3/9/2015 6:00:26 AM
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At 3/9/2015 4:25:34 AM, Bendido wrote:
if Jesus Christ can make miracle wine, can make also that wine cannot intoxicating..
Right::;Amen

As I said on the other thread, I don't believe Jesus made miracle wine, and I reckon he enjoyed the alcoholic nature of the drink. Non alcoholic wine is ghastly!
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3/9/2015 9:09:32 PM
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At 3/9/2015 6:00:26 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/9/2015 4:25:34 AM, Bendido wrote:
if Jesus Christ can make miracle wine, can make also that wine cannot intoxicating..
Right::;Amen

As I said on the other thread, I don't believe Jesus made miracle wine, and I reckon he enjoyed the alcoholic nature of the drink. Non alcoholic wine is ghastly!

Where is the verse that after jesus making the Good Wine they drunk...
where can you find the verse????
that is the stupid thinking...toink....toink....toink....
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3/9/2015 9:24:04 PM
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At 3/9/2015 12:35:17 AM, Bendido wrote:
Conscience and the Bible

https://esoriano.wordpress.com...

The Bible does not only speak of scientific things, historical, social and moral but also psychological things in life.

(Romans 14:21) "It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak."

Although it is not prohibited in the Bible to eat animal meat, the preceding verse was cited by the apostle Paul as a warning to Christians not to offend fellow Christians. It is a kind of admonition which can be considered psychologically sound and healthfully good.



Scientifically, human beings are not designed to be meat eaters or carnivores. If we study our physical being, our body"s design is very much different from natural meat eaters. Carnivores or meat eaters have fangs designed to kill, sharp claws designed to tear flesh, short intestines (about 3 times the length of its body) for the quick disposal of the waste product of meat containing putrifacted materials. They have highly acidic saliva and digestive enzymes needed for the digestion of flesh, bones, feathers and a remarkable enzyme uricase that digest and expels uric acid, a highly toxic by-product of meat. They have large liver that helps in the detoxification of the chemical by-products of meat. Whereas human beings which is naturally born a frugivore have fangs, but not sharp, meaning it is not intended to kill. Our fingers were not equipped with sharp claws needed to tear flesh. Our intestine is 12 times the length of our body that allows the longer stay of fruits and vegetables without harmless by products (needed for proper and complete assimilation of nutrients in them). Our liver is not as large as those of natural meat eaters because fruits and vegetables and nuts do not have plenty of toxic by-products for the liver to neutralize. Our saliva is alkaline and with little ptyalin needed to digest the small amount of starch in fruits and vegetables.

Considering all these factors we know that we are not natural meat eaters and therefore it is scientifically sound to say it is good (for humans) neither to eat animal flesh nor drink wine.

alcoholic.jpgWine, (those that are intoxicating) is equally not fit for human consumption. Scientific studies show that alcohol and other fermented materials in wine cause a lot of unhealthy effects in the human body.

Heavy alcohol use destroys the liver, the body"s primary filtering system, which means that germs of all kinds won"t leave your body as fast. The result is, heavier drinkers are more prone to initial infections as well as secondary complications. Alcohol also dehydrates the body " it actually takes more fluids from your system than it puts in.

(http://my.webmd.com...)
a02;Alcohol is the number one drug of choice for teenagers.
a02;Alcohol-related car crashes are the number one killer of teenagers in the United States.
a02;Alcohol is the number one drug problem in America

(http://www.sacsheriff.com...)

Nausea and sickness

Too much alcohol can irritate the stomach, leading to sickness and nausea, and can lead to temporary impotence in men.

Alcohol has a dehydrating effect, and the traditional hangover arrives partly as a result.

However, it is the longer term effects which worry doctors.

Too much alcohol over a prolonged period can affect nearly every organ in your body.

Alcohol is essentially a poison, and the cumulative effects can be horrific.

Long term drinkers can suffer liver damage, as the liver is the organ that processes the alcohol and removes it from the body.

Liver damage

There are three types of damage " fatty liver, in which fat is deposited in the liver, impairing its function, alcohol hepatitis, an inflammation of the liver which can cause severe symptoms and lead in some cases to alcoholic cirrhosis, which can eventually cause liver failure if the drinker does not stop.

The first two stages are usually reversible, whereas cirrhosis has no cure.

Heavy drinkers can suffer from chronic gastritis " essentially a daily recurrence of hangover style nausea and sickness. They can also suffer damage to the esophagus.

Pancreatitis is a common problem in heavy drinkers " this is an extremely painful condition which is hard to treat, and sometimes fatal.

Brain damage is also possible in some cases " alcoholic dementia is often found in very long-term drinkers.

Heart disease and stroke

However, it is damage to the heart and circulatory system that place many drinkers at risk. Drinking over the recommended limits is one of the most common causes of high blood pressure, which can contribute to heart disease.

Drinking heavily is also likely to greatly increase the calorific intake, perhaps leading to obesity, which also increases these health risks.

Regularly drinking more than three units of alcohol a day increases the risk of a type of stroke called hemorrhagic stroke.

It can also contribute to osteoporosis, lead to muscle weakness, make skin conditions such as psoriasis and eczema worse.

In men, there is likely to be a loss of libido and potency, shrinking of the testicles and penis, reduced fertility, loss of pubic hair and if cirrhosis is present, increased breast size and loss of body hair.

In women, ovulation may cease, and breasts and sexual organs shrivel.

Many cancers are alcohol-related, particularly those of the mouth, esophagus, liver, stomach, colon, rectum, and perhaps breast cancer in women.

Harming unborn children

Heavy drinking, even in one-off binges, by pregnant women can harm their unborn child.

It can lead to miscarriage, low birth weight, and, in the worst cases, to fetal alcohol syndrome, a group of defects which can include lowered IQ, facial malformations and growth deficiencies.

Many studies have found suggestions that moderate alcohol drinking, for example one or two units a day, can have a protective effect against in particular heart disease.

This has yet to be conclusively proven, as it is not clear whether it is the alcohol, or some other ingredient in the drink, which is having the effect.

( http://news.bbc.co.uk...)

By all these scientific wisdom we may conclude that the Bible is a no nonsense book. But what I admire most in the Bible being the words of the Creator is it can penetrate the depth of one"s being.

(Hebrews 4:12-13) "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and ope

How do you feel about the Biblical endorsement of slavery, genocide and the killing of non virgins on their wedding night?
"But what I admire most in the Bible being the words of the Creator is it can penetrate the depth of one's being."
Exodus 21:20-21 "If you beat your slave with a rod, and the slave dies, you shall be punished. If however your slave lives for a day or two, you shall not be punished, for they are your property."
The outright murder of all life in the story of Noah. Aside from the very few that could fit on a boat.
Do these passages penetrate the depth of your being? How does the Creator's endorsement of these things effect your view of the Creator?
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3/9/2015 9:54:06 PM
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Poor Bible believers, continually hoisted on their own petards. Retards more like it. And what a stack of science garbage posted in support of religious mythologies such as thinking humans were always meant to be vegetarians. That's a dumb lie in view that most of us know of our human species roots in Africa where "tooth and claw" are quite evident and survival meant find ANY food niche available. Our faces evolved to take blows from the fists of other hominids and big sharp teeth sticking out were sure to get knocked out. The club, the rock, the fist, these were human species strengths that propelled brain development to take advantage of. Veggies..as if we were big bellied gorillas because that's what veggies need, big guts to get nutrition out of vegetables only.
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3/9/2015 9:59:23 PM
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Aren't you glad God gave the prophesy bearing assignment for our times to a former U.C. Berkeley anthropology major? No snowing with Scriptures out of synch with science facts. Won't get that from Abrahamic Book believers twisting science facts into pablum mush for the non-intellectual believers to swallow.
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3/9/2015 10:07:59 PM
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Although it is not prohibited in the Bible to eat animal meat, the preceding verse was cited by the apostle Paul as a warning to Christians not to offend fellow Christians. It is a kind of admonition which can be considered psychologically sound and healthfully good.



Scientifically, human beings are not designed to be meat eaters or carnivores. If we study our physical being, our body"s design is very much different from natural meat eaters. Carnivores or meat eaters have fangs designed to kill, sharp claws designed to tear flesh, short intestines (about 3 times the length of its body) for the quick disposal of the waste product of meat containing putrifacted materials. They have highly acidic saliva and digestive enzymes needed for the digestion of flesh, bones, feathers and a remarkable enzyme uricase that digest and expels uric acid, a highly toxic by-product of meat. They have large liver that helps in the detoxification of the chemical by-products of meat. Whereas human beings which is naturally born a frugivore have fangs, but not sharp, meaning it is not intended to kill. Our fingers were not equipped with sharp claws needed to tear flesh. Our intestine is 12 times the length of our body that allows the longer stay of fruits and vegetables without harmless by products (needed for proper and complete assimilation of nutrients in them). Our liver is not as large as those of natural meat eaters because fruits and vegetables and nuts do not have plenty of toxic by-products for the liver to neutralize. Our saliva is alkaline and with little ptyalin needed to digest the small amount of starch in fruits and vegetables.

Considering all these factors we know that we are not natural meat eaters and therefore it is scientifically sound to say it is good (for humans) neither to eat animal flesh nor drink wine.

alcoholic.jpgWine, (those that are intoxicating) is equally not fit for human consumption. Scientific studies show that alcohol and other fermented materials in wine cause a lot of unhealthy effects in the human body.

Heavy alcohol use destroys the liver, the body"s primary filtering system, which means that germs of all kinds won"t leave your body as fast. The result is, heavier drinkers are more prone to initial infections as well as secondary complications. Alcohol also dehydrates the body " it actually takes more fluids from your system than it puts in.

(http://my.webmd.com...)
a02;Alcohol is the number one drug of choice for teenagers.
a02;Alcohol-related car crashes are the number one killer of teenagers in the United States.
a02;Alcohol is the number one drug problem in America

(http://www.sacsheriff.com...)

Nausea and sickness

Too much alcohol can irritate the stomach, leading to sickness and nausea, and can lead to temporary impotence in men.

Alcohol has a dehydrating effect, and the traditional hangover arrives partly as a result.

However, it is the longer term effects which worry doctors.

Too much alcohol over a prolonged period can affect nearly every organ in your body.

Alcohol is essentially a poison, and the cumulative effects can be horrific.

Long term drinkers can suffer liver damage, as the liver is the organ that processes the alcohol and removes it from the body.

Liver damage

There are three types of damage " fatty liver, in which fat is deposited in the liver, impairing its function, alcohol hepatitis, an inflammation of the liver which can cause severe symptoms and lead in some cases to alcoholic cirrhosis, which can eventually cause liver failure if the drinker does not stop.

The first two stages are usually reversible, whereas cirrhosis has no cure.

Heavy drinkers can suffer from chronic gastritis " essentially a daily recurrence of hangover style nausea and sickness. They can also suffer damage to the esophagus.

Pancreatitis is a common problem in heavy drinkers " this is an extremely painful condition which is hard to treat, and sometimes fatal.

Brain damage is also possible in some cases " alcoholic dementia is often found in very long-term drinkers.

Heart disease and stroke

However, it is damage to the heart and circulatory system that place many drinkers at risk. Drinking over the recommended limits is one of the most common causes of high blood pressure, which can contribute to heart disease.

Drinking heavily is also likely to greatly increase the calorific intake, perhaps leading to obesity, which also increases these health risks.

Regularly drinking more than three units of alcohol a day increases the risk of a type of stroke called hemorrhagic stroke.

It can also contribute to osteoporosis, lead to muscle weakness, make skin conditions such as psoriasis and eczema worse.

In men, there is likely to be a loss of libido and potency, shrinking of the testicles and penis, reduced fertility, loss of pubic hair and if cirrhosis is present, increased breast size and loss of body hair.

In women, ovulation may cease, and breasts and sexual organs shrivel.

Many cancers are alcohol-related, particularly those of the mouth, esophagus, liver, stomach, colon, rectum, and perhaps breast cancer in women.

Harming unborn children

Heavy drinking, even in one-off binges, by pregnant women can harm their unborn child.

It can lead to miscarriage, low birth weight, and, in the worst cases, to fetal alcohol syndrome, a group of defects which can include lowered IQ, facial malformations and growth deficiencies.

Many studies have found suggestions that moderate alcohol drinking, for example one or two units a day, can have a protective effect against in particular heart disease.

This has yet to be conclusively proven, as it is not clear whether it is the alcohol, or some other ingredient in the drink, which is having the effect.

( http://news.bbc.co.uk...)

By all these scientific wisdom we may conclude that the Bible is a no nonsense book. But what I admire most in the Bible being the words of the Creator is it can penetrate the depth of one"s being.

(Hebrews 4:12-13) "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and ope

How do you feel about the Biblical endorsement of slavery, genocide and the killing of non virgins on their wedding night?
"But what I admire most in the Bible being the words of the Creator is it can penetrate the depth of one's being."
Exodus 21:20-21 "If you beat your slave with a rod, and the slave dies, you shall be punished. If however your slave lives for a day or two, you shall not be punished, for they are your property."
The outright murder of all life in the story of Noah. Aside from the very few that could fit on a boat.
Do these passages penetrate the depth of your being? How does the Creator's endorsement of these things effect your view of the Creator?

that is the time of israel...not the time of christians...toink...there a commandment for the christians...different the commandment for the israelites
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3/10/2015 9:25:29 PM
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At 3/9/2015 10:07:59 PM, Bendido wrote:

Although it is not prohibited in the Bible to eat animal meat, the preceding verse was cited by the apostle Paul as a warning to Christians not to offend fellow Christians. It is a kind of admonition which can be considered psychologically sound and healthfully good.




Considering all these factors we know that we are not natural meat eaters and therefore it is scientifically sound to say it is good (for humans) neither to eat animal flesh nor drink wine.

alcoholic.jpgWine, (those that are intoxicating) is equally not fit for human consumption. Scientific studies show that alcohol and other fermented materials in wine cause a lot of unhealthy effects in the human body.

Heavy alcohol use destroys the liver, the body"s primary filtering system, which means that germs of all kinds won"t leave your body as fast. The result is, heavier drinkers are more prone to initial infections as well as secondary complications. Alcohol also dehydrates the body " it actually takes more fluids from your system than it puts in.

(http://my.webmd.com...)
a02;Alcohol is the number one drug of choice for teenagers.
a02;Alcohol-related car crashes are the number one killer of teenagers in the United States.
a02;Alcohol is the number one drug problem in America

(http://www.sacsheriff.com...)

Nausea and sickness

Too much alcohol can irritate the stomach, leading to sickness and nausea, and can lead to temporary impotence in men.

Alcohol has a dehydrating effect, and the traditional hangover arrives partly as a result.

However, it is the longer term effects which worry doctors.

Too much alcohol over a prolonged period can affect nearly every organ in your body.

Alcohol is essentially a poison, and the cumulative effects can be horrific.

Long term drinkers can suffer liver damage, as the liver is the organ that processes the alcohol and removes it from the body.

Liver damage

There are three types of damage " fatty liver, in which fat is deposited in the liver, impairing its function, alcohol hepatitis, an inflammation of the liver which can cause severe symptoms and lead in some cases to alcoholic cirrhosis, which can eventually cause liver failure if the drinker does not stop.

The first two stages are usually reversible, whereas cirrhosis has no cure.

Heavy drinkers can suffer from chronic gastritis " essentially a daily recurrence of hangover style nausea and sickness. They can also suffer damage to the esophagus.

Pancreatitis is a common problem in heavy drinkers " this is an extremely painful condition which is hard to treat, and sometimes fatal.

Brain damage is also possible in some cases " alcoholic dementia is often found in very long-term drinkers.

Heart disease and stroke

However, it is damage to the heart and circulatory system that place many drinkers at risk. Drinking over the recommended limits is one of the most common causes of high blood pressure, which can contribute to heart disease.

Drinking heavily is also likely to greatly increase the calorific intake, perhaps leading to obesity, which also increases these health risks.

Regularly drinking more than three units of alcohol a day increases the risk of a type of stroke called hemorrhagic stroke.

It can also contribute to osteoporosis, lead to muscle weakness, make skin conditions such as psoriasis and eczema worse.

In men, there is likely to be a loss of libido and potency, shrinking of the testicles and penis, reduced fertility, loss of pubic hair and if cirrhosis is present, increased breast size and loss of body hair.

In women, ovulation may cease, and breasts and sexual organs shrivel.

Many cancers are alcohol-related, particularly those of the mouth, esophagus, liver, stomach, colon, rectum, and perhaps breast cancer in women.

Harming unborn children

Heavy drinking, even in one-off binges, by pregnant women can harm their unborn child.

It can lead to miscarriage, low birth weight, and, in the worst cases, to fetal alcohol syndrome, a group of defects which can include lowered IQ, facial malformations and growth deficiencies.

Many studies have found suggestions that moderate alcohol drinking, for example one or two units a day, can have a protective effect against in particular heart disease.

This has yet to be conclusively proven, as it is not clear whether it is the alcohol, or some other ingredient in the drink, which is having the effect.

( http://news.bbc.co.uk...)

By all these scientific wisdom we may conclude that the Bible is a no nonsense book. But what I admire most in the Bible being the words of the Creator is it can penetrate the depth of one"s being.

(Hebrews 4:12-13) "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and ope

How do you feel about the Biblical endorsement of slavery, genocide and the killing of non virgins on their wedding night?
"But what I admire most in the Bible being the words of the Creator is it can penetrate the depth of one's being."
Exodus 21:20-21 "If you beat your slave with a rod, and the slave dies, you shall be punished. If however your slave lives for a day or two, you shall not be punished, for they are your property."
The outright murder of all life in the story of Noah. Aside from the very few that could fit on a boat.
Do these passages penetrate the depth of your being? How does the Creator's endorsement of these things effect your view of the Creator?

that is the time of israel...not the time of christians...toink...there a commandment for the christians...different the commandment for the Israelites

You said the "Bible" not the "NT." My quote was from the Bible, which is the book that your are heaping praise on. Also, I'm not concerned with who the rules apply to. I can evaluate my neighbor, to some degree, based on the rules he applies to his own children. As an example, lets say he beats his kids for being one minute late. I can look at him and think he is a bit of a jerk based on that rule and his actions. It doesn't really matter if that rule applies to me. I can still do that.
So as you where heaping praise on the Bible, I would like your thoughts on the passage from the Bible I cited for you. What do you think about it? What do you think about the being/person that promotes this action? How does it make you feel? This passage from the Bible.
Exodus 21:20-21, "If you beat your slave with a rod, and the slave dies, you shall be punished. If, however, you beat your slave and the slave dies in a day or two, you shall not be punished. For they are your property."
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3/10/2015 9:47:38 PM
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At 3/9/2015 12:35:17 AM, Bendido wrote:
Conscience and the Bible

https://esoriano.wordpress.com...

The Bible does not only speak of scientific things, historical, social and moral but also psychological things in life.

I've never heard my Bible speak. What does your Bible say when it speaks to you?
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3/12/2015 8:03:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 9:47:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/9/2015 12:35:17 AM, Bendido wrote:
Conscience and the Bible

https://esoriano.wordpress.com...

The Bible does not only speak of scientific things, historical, social and moral but also psychological things in life.

I've never heard my Bible speak. What does your Bible say when it speaks to you?

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
toink...toink...toink...
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3/12/2015 8:11:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 8:03:32 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/10/2015 9:47:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/9/2015 12:35:17 AM, Bendido wrote:
Conscience and the Bible

https://esoriano.wordpress.com...

The Bible does not only speak of scientific things, historical, social and moral but also psychological things in life.

I've never heard my Bible speak. What does your Bible say when it speaks to you?

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
toink...toink...toink...

We saints read the prophecies for our Creator after we testify to His knowledge in writing and speaking for Him. We are truly blessed as we read all the prophecies because they're all understood now that we know who we were born of.

If the Bible could speak, no antichrists would want to listen to it unless it only spoke the words that the antichrists added to it.
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3/12/2015 8:22:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 8:11:19 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:03:32 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/10/2015 9:47:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/9/2015 12:35:17 AM, Bendido wrote:
Conscience and the Bible

https://esoriano.wordpress.com...

The Bible does not only speak of scientific things, historical, social and moral but also psychological things in life.

I've never heard my Bible speak. What does your Bible say when it speaks to you?

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
toink...toink...toink...

We saints read the prophecies for our Creator after we testify to His knowledge in writing and speaking for Him. We are truly blessed as we read all the prophecies because they're all understood now that we know who we were born of.

If the Bible could speak, no antichrists would want to listen to it unless it only spoke the words that the antichrists added to it.

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
that is the anti christ
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3/12/2015 8:41:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 8:22:11 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:11:19 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:03:32 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/10/2015 9:47:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/9/2015 12:35:17 AM, Bendido wrote:
Conscience and the Bible

https://esoriano.wordpress.com...

The Bible does not only speak of scientific things, historical, social and moral but also psychological things in life.

I've never heard my Bible speak. What does your Bible say when it speaks to you?

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
toink...toink...toink...

We saints read the prophecies for our Creator after we testify to His knowledge in writing and speaking for Him. We are truly blessed as we read all the prophecies because they're all understood now that we know who we were born of.

If the Bible could speak, no antichrists would want to listen to it unless it only spoke the words that the antichrists added to it.

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
that is the anti christ

Those who do not hear the Truth in the gospel I speak for our Creator will perish without knowing who they really are.

Liars read the Bible and pretend they know God.
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3/12/2015 8:53:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 8:41:31 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:22:11 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:11:19 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:03:32 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/10/2015 9:47:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/9/2015 12:35:17 AM, Bendido wrote:
Conscience and the Bible

https://esoriano.wordpress.com...

The Bible does not only speak of scientific things, historical, social and moral but also psychological things in life.

I've never heard my Bible speak. What does your Bible say when it speaks to you?

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
toink...toink...toink...

We saints read the prophecies for our Creator after we testify to His knowledge in writing and speaking for Him. We are truly blessed as we read all the prophecies because they're all understood now that we know who we were born of.

If the Bible could speak, no antichrists would want to listen to it unless it only spoke the words that the antichrists added to it.

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
that is the anti christ

Those who do not hear the Truth in the gospel I speak for our Creator will perish without knowing who they really are.

Liars read the Bible and pretend they know God.

wrong again:

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
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3/12/2015 9:02:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 8:53:15 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:41:31 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:22:11 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:11:19 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:03:32 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/10/2015 9:47:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/9/2015 12:35:17 AM, Bendido wrote:
Conscience and the Bible

https://esoriano.wordpress.com...

The Bible does not only speak of scientific things, historical, social and moral but also psychological things in life.

I've never heard my Bible speak. What does your Bible say when it speaks to you?

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
toink...toink...toink...

We saints read the prophecies for our Creator after we testify to His knowledge in writing and speaking for Him. We are truly blessed as we read all the prophecies because they're all understood now that we know who we were born of.

If the Bible could speak, no antichrists would want to listen to it unless it only spoke the words that the antichrists added to it.

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
that is the anti christ

Those who do not hear the Truth in the gospel I speak for our Creator will perish without knowing who they really are.

Liars read the Bible and pretend they know God.

wrong again:

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Christians have perverted the prophecies in Revelation with all their false predictions. All you have to do is Google, "End Times prophecies". You will see many versions of false interpretations by heathens who have no idea who our Creator is.
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3/12/2015 9:09:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 9:02:09 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:53:15 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:41:31 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:22:11 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:11:19 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:03:32 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/10/2015 9:47:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/9/2015 12:35:17 AM, Bendido wrote:
Conscience and the Bible

https://esoriano.wordpress.com...

The Bible does not only speak of scientific things, historical, social and moral but also psychological things in life.

I've never heard my Bible speak. What does your Bible say when it speaks to you?

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
toink...toink...toink...

We saints read the prophecies for our Creator after we testify to His knowledge in writing and speaking for Him. We are truly blessed as we read all the prophecies because they're all understood now that we know who we were born of.

If the Bible could speak, no antichrists would want to listen to it unless it only spoke the words that the antichrists added to it.

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
that is the anti christ

Those who do not hear the Truth in the gospel I speak for our Creator will perish without knowing who they really are.

Liars read the Bible and pretend they know God.

wrong again:

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Christians have perverted the prophecies in Revelation with all their false predictions. All you have to do is Google, "End Times prophecies". You will see many versions of false interpretations by heathens who have no idea who our Creator is.

all prophecy of the bible is true....specially in revelations

Revelation 6:1-6

1.And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2.And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3.And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4.And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
5.And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6.And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
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3/12/2015 9:20:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 9:25:29 PM, NoMagic wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:07:59 PM, Bendido wrote:

Although it is not prohibited in the Bible to eat animal meat, the preceding verse was cited by the apostle Paul as a warning to Christians not to offend fellow Christians. It is a kind of admonition which can be considered psychologically sound and healthfully good.




Considering all these factors we know that we are not natural meat eaters and therefore it is scientifically sound to say it is good (for humans) neither to eat animal flesh nor drink wine.

alcoholic.jpgWine, (those that are intoxicating) is equally not fit for human consumption. Scientific studies show that alcohol and other fermented materials in wine cause a lot of unhealthy effects in the human body.

Heavy alcohol use destroys the liver, the body"s primary filtering system, which means that germs of all kinds won"t leave your body as fast. The result is, heavier drinkers are more prone to initial infections as well as secondary complications. Alcohol also dehydrates the body " it actually takes more fluids from your system than it puts in.

(http://my.webmd.com...)
a02;Alcohol is the number one drug of choice for teenagers.
a02;Alcohol-related car crashes are the number one killer of teenagers in the United States.
a02;Alcohol is the number one drug problem in America

(http://www.sacsheriff.com...)

Nausea and sickness

Too much alcohol can irritate the stomach, leading to sickness and nausea, and can lead to temporary impotence in men.

Alcohol has a dehydrating effect, and the traditional hangover arrives partly as a result.

However, it is the longer term effects which worry doctors.

Too much alcohol over a prolonged period can affect nearly every organ in your body.

Alcohol is essentially a poison, and the cumulative effects can be horrific.

Long term drinkers can suffer liver damage, as the liver is the organ that processes the alcohol and removes it from the body.

Liver damage

There are three types of damage " fatty liver, in which fat is deposited in the liver, impairing its function, alcohol hepatitis, an inflammation of the liver which can cause severe symptoms and lead in some cases to alcoholic cirrhosis, which can eventually cause liver failure if the drinker does not stop.

The first two stages are usually reversible, whereas cirrhosis has no cure.

Heavy drinkers can suffer from chronic gastritis " essentially a daily recurrence of hangover style nausea and sickness. They can also suffer damage to the esophagus.

Pancreatitis is a common problem in heavy drinkers " this is an extremely painful condition which is hard to treat, and sometimes fatal.

Brain damage is also possible in some cases " alcoholic dementia is often found in very long-term drinkers.

Heart disease and stroke

However, it is damage to the heart and circulatory system that place many drinkers at risk. Drinking over the recommended limits is one of the most common causes of high blood pressure, which can contribute to heart disease.

Drinking heavily is also likely to greatly increase the calorific intake, perhaps leading to obesity, which also increases these health risks.

Regularly drinking more than three units of alcohol a day increases the risk of a type of stroke called hemorrhagic stroke.

It can also contribute to osteoporosis, lead to muscle weakness, make skin conditions such as psoriasis and eczema worse.

In men, there is likely to be a loss of libido and potency, shrinking of the testicles and penis, reduced fertility, loss of pubic hair and if cirrhosis is present, increased breast size and loss of body hair.

In women, ovulation may cease, and breasts and sexual organs shrivel.

Many cancers are alcohol-related, particularly those of the mouth, esophagus, liver, stomach, colon, rectum, and perhaps breast cancer in women.

Harming unborn children

Heavy drinking, even in one-off binges, by pregnant women can harm their unborn child.

It can lead to miscarriage, low birth weight, and, in the worst cases, to fetal alcohol syndrome, a group of defects which can include lowered IQ, facial malformations and growth deficiencies.

Many studies have found suggestions that moderate alcohol drinking, for example one or two units a day, can have a protective effect against in particular heart disease.

This has yet to be conclusively proven, as it is not clear whether it is the alcohol, or some other ingredient in the drink, which is having the effect.

( http://news.bbc.co.uk...)

By all these scientific wisdom we may conclude that the Bible is a no nonsense book. But what I admire most in the Bible being the words of the Creator is it can penetrate the depth of one"s being.

(Hebrews 4:12-13) "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and ope

How do you feel about the Biblical endorsement of slavery, genocide and the killing of non virgins on their wedding night?
"But what I admire most in the Bible being the words of the Creator is it can penetrate the depth of one's being."
Exodus 21:20-21 "If you beat your slave with a rod, and the slave dies, you shall be punished. If however your slave lives for a day or two, you shall not be punished, for they are your property."
The outright murder of all life in the story of Noah. Aside from the very few that could fit on a boat.
Do these passages penetrate the depth of your being? How does the Creator's endorsement of these things effect your view of the Creator?

that is the time of israel...not the time of christians...toink...there a commandment for the christians...different the commandment for the Israelites

You said the "Bible" not the "NT." My quote was from the Bible, which is the book that your are heaping praise on. Also, I'm not concerned with who the rules apply to. I can evaluate my neighbor, to some degree, based on the rules he applies to his own children. As an example, lets say he beats his kids for being one minute late. I can look at him and think he is a bit of a jerk based on that rule and his actions. It doesn't really matter if that rule applies to me. I can still do that.
So as you where heaping praise on the Bible, I would like your thoughts on the passage from the Bible I cited for you. What do you think about it? What do you think about the being/person that promotes this action? How does it make you feel? This passage from the Bible.
Exodus 21:20-21, "If you beat your slave with a rod, and the slave dies, you shall be punished. If, however, you beat your slave and the slave dies in a day or two, you shall not be punished. For they are your property."

are you out of mine! im not saying

"Bible" not the "NT."

i said:
that is the time of israel...not the time of christians...toink...there a commandment for the christians...different the commandment for the Israelites

toink..t
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3/12/2015 9:42:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 9:09:01 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 9:02:09 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:53:15 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:41:31 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:22:11 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:11:19 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:03:32 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/10/2015 9:47:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/9/2015 12:35:17 AM, Bendido wrote:
Conscience and the Bible

https://esoriano.wordpress.com...

The Bible does not only speak of scientific things, historical, social and moral but also psychological things in life.

I've never heard my Bible speak. What does your Bible say when it speaks to you?

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
toink...toink...toink...

We saints read the prophecies for our Creator after we testify to His knowledge in writing and speaking for Him. We are truly blessed as we read all the prophecies because they're all understood now that we know who we were born of.

If the Bible could speak, no antichrists would want to listen to it unless it only spoke the words that the antichrists added to it.

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
that is the anti christ

Those who do not hear the Truth in the gospel I speak for our Creator will perish without knowing who they really are.

Liars read the Bible and pretend they know God.

wrong again:

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Christians have perverted the prophecies in Revelation with all their false predictions. All you have to do is Google, "End Times prophecies". You will see many versions of false interpretations by heathens who have no idea who our Creator is.

all prophecy of the bible is true....specially in revelations

Revelation 6:1-6

1.And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2.And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3.And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4.And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
5.And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6.And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Neither you or any other Christian have any idea what the prophecies are about in Revelation.

Here's a test for you;

What is the Lamb of God and who does the Lamb destroy?

What is the beast and what does the beast destroy?
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3/12/2015 10:02:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 9:42:42 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 9:09:01 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 9:02:09 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:53:15 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:41:31 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:22:11 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:11:19 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:03:32 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/10/2015 9:47:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/9/2015 12:35:17 AM, Bendido wrote:
Conscience and the Bible

https://esoriano.wordpress.com...

The Bible does not only speak of scientific things, historical, social and moral but also psychological things in life.

I've never heard my Bible speak. What does your Bible say when it speaks to you?

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
toink...toink...toink...

We saints read the prophecies for our Creator after we testify to His knowledge in writing and speaking for Him. We are truly blessed as we read all the prophecies because they're all understood now that we know who we were born of.

If the Bible could speak, no antichrists would want to listen to it unless it only spoke the words that the antichrists added to it.

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
that is the anti christ

Those who do not hear the Truth in the gospel I speak for our Creator will perish without knowing who they really are.

Liars read the Bible and pretend they know God.

wrong again:

Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Christians have perverted the prophecies in Revelation with all their false predictions. All you have to do is Google, "End Times prophecies". You will see many versions of false interpretations by heathens who have no idea who our Creator is.

all prophecy of the bible is true....specially in revelations

Revelation 6:1-6

1.And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2.And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3.And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4.And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
5.And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6.And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Neither you or any other Christian have any idea what the prophecies are about in Revelation.

Here's a test for you;

What is the Lamb of God and who does the Lamb destroy?

What is the beast and what does the beast destroy?

What is the Lamb of God

the lamp of God: is Jesus

John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

the Lamb destroy?

the son perdition

2 Thessalonians 2:3-9

3.Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5.Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6.And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7.For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8.And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9.Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

What is the beast?

beast is symbolic to popes in rome

Revelation 13:16-18

16.And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17.And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18.This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.
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3/12/2015 10:25:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 9:20:01 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/10/2015 9:25:29 PM, NoMagic wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:07:59 PM, Bendido wrote:
Considering all these factors we know that we are not natural meat eaters and therefore it is scientifically sound to say it is good (for humans) neither to eat animal flesh nor drink wine.

alcoholic.jpgWine, (those that are intoxicating) is equally not fit for human consumption. Scientific studies show that alcohol and other fermented materials in wine cause a lot of unhealthy effects in the human body.

Heavy alcohol use destroys the liver, the body"s primary filtering system, which means that germs of all kinds won"t leave your body as fast. The result is, heavier drinkers are more prone to initial infections as well as secondary complications. Alcohol also dehydrates the body " it actually takes more fluids from your system than it puts in.

(http://my.webmd.com...)
a02;Alcohol is the number one drug of choice for teenagers.
a02;Alcohol-related car crashes are the number one killer of teenagers in the United States.
a02;Alcohol is the number one drug problem in America

(http://www.sacsheriff.com...)

Nausea and sickness

Too much alcohol can irritate the stomach, leading to sickness and nausea, and can lead to temporary impotence in men.

Alcohol has a dehydrating effect, and the traditional hangover arrives partly as a result.

However, it is the longer term effects which worry doctors.

Too much alcohol over a prolonged period can affect nearly every organ in your body.

Alcohol is essentially a poison, and the cumulative effects can be horrific.

Long term drinkers can suffer liver damage, as the liver is the organ that processes the alcohol and removes it from the body.

Liver damage

There are three types of damage " fatty liver, in which fat is deposited in the liver, impairing its function, alcohol hepatitis, an inflammation of the liver which can cause severe symptoms and lead in some cases to alcoholic cirrhosis, which can eventually cause liver failure if the drinker does not stop.

The first two stages are usually reversible, whereas cirrhosis has no cure.

Heavy drinkers can suffer from chronic gastritis " essentially a daily recurrence of hangover style nausea and sickness. They can also suffer damage to the esophagus.

Pancreatitis is a common problem in heavy drinkers " this is an extremely painful condition which is hard to treat, and sometimes fatal.

Brain damage is also possible in some cases " alcoholic dementia is often found in very long-term drinkers.

Heart disease and stroke

However, it is damage to the heart and circulatory system that place many drinkers at risk. Drinking over the recommended limits is one of the most common causes of high blood pressure, which can contribute to heart disease.

Drinking heavily is also likely to greatly increase the calorific intake, perhaps leading to obesity, which also increases these health risks.

Regularly drinking more than three units of alcohol a day increases the risk of a type of stroke called hemorrhagic stroke.

It can also contribute to osteoporosis, lead to muscle weakness, make skin conditions such as psoriasis and eczema worse.

In men, there is likely to be a loss of libido and potency, shrinking of the testicles and penis, reduced fertility, loss of pubic hair and if cirrhosis is present, increased breast size and loss of body hair.

In women, ovulation may cease, and breasts and sexual organs shrivel.

Many cancers are alcohol-related, particularly those of the mouth, esophagus, liver, stomach, colon, rectum, and perhaps breast cancer in women.

Harming unborn children

Heavy drinking, even in one-off binges, by pregnant women can harm their unborn child.

It can lead to miscarriage, low birth weight, and, in the worst cases, to fetal alcohol syndrome, a group of defects which can include lowered IQ, facial malformations and growth deficiencies.

Many studies have found suggestions that moderate alcohol drinking, for example one or two units a day, can have a protective effect against in particular heart disease.

This has yet to be conclusively proven, as it is not clear whether it is the alcohol, or some other ingredient in the drink, which is having the effect.

( http://news.bbc.co.uk...)

By all these scientific wisdom we may conclude that the Bible is a no nonsense book. But what I admire most in the Bible being the words of the Creator is it can penetrate the depth of one"s being.

(Hebrews 4:12-13) "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and ope

How do you feel about the Biblical endorsement of slavery, genocide and the killing of non virgins on their wedding night?
"But what I admire most in the Bible being the words of the Creator is it can penetrate the depth of one's being."
The outright murder of all life in the story of Noah. Aside from the very few that could fit on a boat.
Do these passages penetrate the depth of your being? How does the Creator's endorsement of these things effect your view of the Creator?

that is the time of israel...not the time of christians...toink...there a commandment for the christians...different the commandment for the Israelites

So as you where heaping praise on the Bible, I would like your thoughts on the passage from the Bible I cited for you. What do you think about it? What do you think about the being/person that promotes this action? How does it make you feel? This passage from the Bible.
Exodus 21:20-21, "If you beat your slave with a rod, and the slave dies, you shall be punished. If, however, you beat your slave and the slave dies in a day or two, you shall not be punished. For they are your property."

are you out of mine! im not saying

"Bible" not the "NT."

i said:
that is the time of isr
I'm not concerned with when or who the rules applied to. The NT is attached to the OT. The god in the OT, is the same god as the NT. Without the OT, the NT falls, they are linked.
I'm asking you how this passage makes you feel, that has nothing to do with who or when it is/was applied to. Again, how does this passage make you feel? What do you think of the character of someone who would endorse such things?
Exodus 21:20-21 "When you beat your slave with a rod, and the slave dies, you are to be punished. If, however, the slave dies in a day or two, you aren't to be punished, for they are your property."
Evaluate the passage. Do you find high moral character in it? Does it give you warm and fuzzies link the other passages do?
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3/12/2015 10:27:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 10:02:55 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 9:42:42 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 9:09:01 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 9:02:09 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:53:15 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:41:31 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:22:11 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:11:19 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:03:32 PM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/10/2015 9:47:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/9/2015 12:35:17 AM, Bendido wrote:
Conscience and the Bible

https://esoriano.wordpress.com...



Revelation 6:1-6

1.And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2.And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3.And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4.And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
5.And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6.And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Neither you or any other Christian have any idea what the prophecies are about in Revelation.

Here's a test for you;

What is the Lamb of God and who does the Lamb destroy?

What is the beast and what does the beast destroy?

What is the Lamb of God

the lamp of God: is Jesus

The name "Jesus" that Christians worship is what keeps them from knowing what the Lamb is.

The Lamb of God is the same exact thing as the Tree of Life;

John 6
63: It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

The Lamb of God is His Spirit, also known as His thoughts;

Psalm 94
11: the LORD, knows the thoughts of man, that they are but a breath.

Psalm 139
17: How precious to me are thy thoughts, O God! How vast is the sum of them!


R
John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Everything was created in the THOUGHTS of God, His Lamb, also known as Christ, Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven, Son of God, Breath of Life, Tree of Life, Book of Life, Holy Spirit, Kingdom of the Spirit, etc.

the Lamb destroy?

God already planned the destruction of this world with all the flesh that has deceived man since he was birthed into this world.
the son perdition

2 Thessalonians 2:3-9

3.Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5.Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6.And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7.For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8.And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9.Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,


What is the beast?

beast is symbolic to popes in rome

Revelation 13:16-18

16.And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17.And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18.This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.

The beast was written about long before the popes of Rome came about. The beast was present in the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, waiting to teach God's people how to build things with their human hands and to be used to kill the symbolic "woman's" offspring.