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3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM
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Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.
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3/12/2015 8:21:34 AM
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I have read that the IDF has penetrated Irans air space without detection in a few trial runs already!
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3/12/2015 8:22:11 AM
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Rant, I'm putting your war provocation topics on report. Why are you trying to stir up more trouble than necessary with these types of posts you are doing, posting radical statements that are ignored by most people with common sense? Most people don't want to go to war so why are you trying to whip up war fever by posting extremists statements?

Grow up. We don't need infantile thinking in adult form being posted on Debate. We have enough of that anyway.
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3/12/2015 8:50:51 AM
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At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

Interesting.
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3/12/2015 9:33:37 AM
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At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

Anyone who believes what they observe in this world has been deceived of our true existence in the mind of our Creator.
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3/12/2015 10:17:44 AM
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At 3/12/2015 9:33:37 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

Anyone who believes what they observe in this world has been deceived of our true existence in the mind of our Creator.

That includes you then, but we all know you are deceiving yourself.
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3/12/2015 10:30:00 AM
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At 3/12/2015 10:17:44 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 9:33:37 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

Anyone who believes what they observe in this world has been deceived of our true existence in the mind of our Creator.

That includes you then, but we all know you are deceiving yourself.

For one who thinks he follows Christ and the Father, you certainly haven't learned much about who you really are.
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3/12/2015 10:36:38 AM
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At 3/12/2015 10:30:00 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 10:17:44 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 9:33:37 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

Anyone who believes what they observe in this world has been deceived of our true existence in the mind of our Creator.

That includes you then, but we all know you are deceiving yourself.

For one who thinks he follows Christ and the Father, you certainly haven't learned much about who you really are.

Many times more than you have, and I'm still learning.
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3/12/2015 11:33:47 AM
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At 3/12/2015 10:36:38 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 10:30:00 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 10:17:44 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 9:33:37 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

Anyone who believes what they observe in this world has been deceived of our true existence in the mind of our Creator.

That includes you then, but we all know you are deceiving yourself.

For one who thinks he follows Christ and the Father, you certainly haven't learned much about who you really are.

Many times more than you have, and I'm still learning.

Antichrists navigate through the Bible very well but they have no knowledge of God to understand the prophecies about the future or how they were created.
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3/12/2015 11:45:44 AM
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At 3/12/2015 11:33:47 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 10:36:38 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 10:30:00 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 10:17:44 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 9:33:37 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

Anyone who believes what they observe in this world has been deceived of our true existence in the mind of our Creator.

That includes you then, but we all know you are deceiving yourself.

For one who thinks he follows Christ and the Father, you certainly haven't learned much about who you really are.

Many times more than you have, and I'm still learning.

Antichrists navigate through the Bible very well but they have no knowledge of God to understand the prophecies about the future or how they were created.

You should know, you are one of them.
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3/12/2015 11:47:15 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 11:45:44 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 11:33:47 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 10:36:38 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 10:30:00 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 10:17:44 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 9:33:37 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

Anyone who believes what they observe in this world has been deceived of our true existence in the mind of our Creator.

That includes you then, but we all know you are deceiving yourself.

For one who thinks he follows Christ and the Father, you certainly haven't learned much about who you really are.

Many times more than you have, and I'm still learning.

Antichrists navigate through the Bible very well but they have no knowledge of God to understand the prophecies about the future or how they were created.

You should know, you are one of them.

You will get to know ME in the next age, MCB. All you have is a book about ME during this first age.
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3/12/2015 1:16:54 PM
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At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

America has the largest military in history. Iran can't win. There is no scenario where they can destroy Israel and bask in their glory before being invaded and toppled.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
-Epicurus.
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3/12/2015 2:47:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 1:16:54 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

America has the largest military in history. Iran can't win. There is no scenario where they can destroy Israel and bask in their glory before being invaded and toppled.

No? the North Vietnamese defeated them.

If they can do it, one wonders who else can.
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3/12/2015 3:11:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 2:47:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 1:16:54 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

America has the largest military in history. Iran can't win. There is no scenario where they can destroy Israel and bask in their glory before being invaded and toppled.

No? the North Vietnamese defeated them.

If they can do it, one wonders who else can.

They only won because we quite fighting because we couldn't win without killing everyone in the area. 800,000 minimum civilians were killed by the U.S. Plus it was an unjust war. We assumed that Communism wasn't going to stop until it got to Nebraska unless we stopped the NVA, which was made up of people being suppressed by their French government. They chose Communism because it appealed to people who had nothing. We could have given them a better democracy instead of invading.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
-Epicurus.
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3/12/2015 4:02:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 3:11:42 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 2:47:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 1:16:54 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

America has the largest military in history. Iran can't win. There is no scenario where they can destroy Israel and bask in their glory before being invaded and toppled.

No? the North Vietnamese defeated them.

If they can do it, one wonders who else can.

They only won because we quite fighting because we couldn't win without killing everyone in the area. 800,000 minimum civilians were killed by the U.S. Plus it was an unjust war. We assumed that Communism wasn't going to stop until it got to Nebraska unless we stopped the NVA, which was made up of people being suppressed by their French government. They chose Communism because it appealed to people who had nothing. We could have given them a better democracy instead of invading.

There is no such thing as a just the only just wars there ever were were those fought by God in defence of his people.

Since God does not recognise national divisions, they being a product of Satan's system not his.

All you could have given them was another version of Satanic misrule, since Satan is behind all humans Governments as he is behind everything which divides one man from another. That includes all the false religions that Satan has created to divide mankind and conquer us, as well as the 3,000 or so fake versions of what Christ and the Apostles started in the 1st century.

He will soon destroy them al and only allow those who ant to be 100% united, and serve him, to survive his war, Armageddon.

As one Jehovah's Witness once said to me, there is no such thing as a British Witness, because whatever nation we belong to, once we are a baptised follower of Christ and servant of his father we are subjects of his Kingdom not an man made Kingdom.

Why?

Because all true followers of Christ owe their primary allegiance to that Kingdom and will support no other government in any way, not even voting for them, though they do comply with all human laws that do not go against God's principles.

Thus they are now part of one, global nation, united completely by love of God and brother, precisely as Jesus said all must be.

So in the end whether or not the Americans can beat IS or the other way round is of no consequence at all to true followers of Christ, since neither will last much longer before being replaced by God's Kingdom throughout the earth.

The one thing neither force can defeat is God.
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3/12/2015 4:22:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 4:02:06 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 3:11:42 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 2:47:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 1:16:54 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

America has the largest military in history. Iran can't win. There is no scenario where they can destroy Israel and bask in their glory before being invaded and toppled.

No? the North Vietnamese defeated them.

If they can do it, one wonders who else can.

They only won because we quite fighting because we couldn't win without killing everyone in the area. 800,000 minimum civilians were killed by the U.S. Plus it was an unjust war. We assumed that Communism wasn't going to stop until it got to Nebraska unless we stopped the NVA, which was made up of people being suppressed by their French government. They chose Communism because it appealed to people who had nothing. We could have given them a better democracy instead of invading.

There is no such thing as a just the only just wars there ever were were those fought by God in defence of his people.

Since God does not recognise national divisions, they being a product of Satan's system not his.

All you could have given them was another version of Satanic misrule, since Satan is behind all humans Governments as he is behind everything which divides one man from another. That includes all the false religions that Satan has created to divide mankind and conquer us, as well as the 3,000 or so fake versions of what Christ and the Apostles started in the 1st century.

He will soon destroy them al and only allow those who ant to be 100% united, and serve him, to survive his war, Armageddon.

As one Jehovah's Witness once said to me, there is no such thing as a British Witness, because whatever nation we belong to, once we are a baptised follower of Christ and servant of his father we are subjects of his Kingdom not an man made Kingdom.

Why?

Because all true followers of Christ owe their primary allegiance to that Kingdom and will support no other government in any way, not even voting for them, though they do comply with all human laws that do not go against God's principles.

Thus they are now part of one, global nation, united completely by love of God and brother, precisely as Jesus said all must be.

So in the end whether or not the Americans can beat IS or the other way round is of no consequence at all to true followers of Christ, since neither will last much longer before being replaced by God's Kingdom throughout the earth.

The one thing neither force can defeat is God.

What does god have to with Iran, or Vietnam?
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
-Epicurus.
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3/12/2015 4:32:04 PM
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At 3/12/2015 4:22:49 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:02:06 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 3:11:42 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 2:47:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 1:16:54 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

America has the largest military in history. Iran can't win. There is no scenario where they can destroy Israel and bask in their glory before being invaded and toppled.

No? the North Vietnamese defeated them.

If they can do it, one wonders who else can.

They only won because we quite fighting because we couldn't win without killing everyone in the area. 800,000 minimum civilians were killed by the U.S. Plus it was an unjust war. We assumed that Communism wasn't going to stop until it got to Nebraska unless we stopped the NVA, which was made up of people being suppressed by their French government. They chose Communism because it appealed to people who had nothing. We could have given them a better democracy instead of invading.

There is no such thing as a just the only just wars there ever were were those fought by God in defence of his people.

Since God does not recognise national divisions, they being a product of Satan's system not his.

All you could have given them was another version of Satanic misrule, since Satan is behind all humans Governments as he is behind everything which divides one man from another. That includes all the false religions that Satan has created to divide mankind and conquer us, as well as the 3,000 or so fake versions of what Christ and the Apostles started in the 1st century.

He will soon destroy them al and only allow those who ant to be 100% united, and serve him, to survive his war, Armageddon.

As one Jehovah's Witness once said to me, there is no such thing as a British Witness, because whatever nation we belong to, once we are a baptised follower of Christ and servant of his father we are subjects of his Kingdom not an man made Kingdom.

Why?

Because all true followers of Christ owe their primary allegiance to that Kingdom and will support no other government in any way, not even voting for them, though they do comply with all human laws that do not go against God's principles.

Thus they are now part of one, global nation, united completely by love of God and brother, precisely as Jesus said all must be.

So in the end whether or not the Americans can beat IS or the other way round is of no consequence at all to true followers of Christ, since neither will last much longer before being replaced by God's Kingdom throughout the earth.

The one thing neither force can defeat is God.

What does god have to with Iran, or Vietnam?

Other than that he is going to do away with all nations soon, nothing..

However I am interested because the actions of IS could well be the spark which turns governments against all religious involvement.
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3/12/2015 5:15:49 PM
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At 3/12/2015 4:32:04 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:22:49 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:02:06 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 3:11:42 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 2:47:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 1:16:54 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

America has the largest military in history. Iran can't win. There is no scenario where they can destroy Israel and bask in their glory before being invaded and toppled.

No? the North Vietnamese defeated them.

If they can do it, one wonders who else can.

They only won because we quite fighting because we couldn't win without killing everyone in the area. 800,000 minimum civilians were killed by the U.S. Plus it was an unjust war. We assumed that Communism wasn't going to stop until it got to Nebraska unless we stopped the NVA, which was made up of people being suppressed by their French government. They chose Communism because it appealed to people who had nothing. We could have given them a better democracy instead of invading.

There is no such thing as a just the only just wars there ever were were those fought by God in defence of his people.

Since God does not recognise national divisions, they being a product of Satan's system not his.

All you could have given them was another version of Satanic misrule, since Satan is behind all humans Governments as he is behind everything which divides one man from another. That includes all the false religions that Satan has created to divide mankind and conquer us, as well as the 3,000 or so fake versions of what Christ and the Apostles started in the 1st century.

He will soon destroy them al and only allow those who ant to be 100% united, and serve him, to survive his war, Armageddon.

As one Jehovah's Witness once said to me, there is no such thing as a British Witness, because whatever nation we belong to, once we are a baptised follower of Christ and servant of his father we are subjects of his Kingdom not an man made Kingdom.

Why?

Because all true followers of Christ owe their primary allegiance to that Kingdom and will support no other government in any way, not even voting for them, though they do comply with all human laws that do not go against God's principles.

Thus they are now part of one, global nation, united completely by love of God and brother, precisely as Jesus said all must be.

So in the end whether or not the Americans can beat IS or the other way round is of no consequence at all to true followers of Christ, since neither will last much longer before being replaced by God's Kingdom throughout the earth.

The one thing neither force can defeat is God.

What does god have to with Iran, or Vietnam?

Other than that he is going to do away with all nations soon, nothing..

Someone told me in church that the world was going to end on 06/06/2006. Another one was on 05/11/2011. So forgive me for not trusting you on when all nations will fall.

However I am interested because the actions of IS could well be the spark which turns governments against all religious involvement.

Well, the modern nations that have more peace already have governments that are not helping religious involvement but are not fighting religion either.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
-Epicurus.
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3/12/2015 5:33:56 PM
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At 3/12/2015 5:15:49 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:32:04 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:22:49 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:02:06 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 3:11:42 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 2:47:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 1:16:54 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

America has the largest military in history. Iran can't win. There is no scenario where they can destroy Israel and bask in their glory before being invaded and toppled.

No? the North Vietnamese defeated them.

If they can do it, one wonders who else can.

They only won because we quite fighting because we couldn't win without killing everyone in the area. 800,000 minimum civilians were killed by the U.S. Plus it was an unjust war. We assumed that Communism wasn't going to stop until it got to Nebraska unless we stopped the NVA, which was made up of people being suppressed by their French government. They chose Communism because it appealed to people who had nothing. We could have given them a better democracy instead of invading.

There is no such thing as a just the only just wars there ever were were those fought by God in defence of his people.

Since God does not recognise national divisions, they being a product of Satan's system not his.

All you could have given them was another version of Satanic misrule, since Satan is behind all humans Governments as he is behind everything which divides one man from another. That includes all the false religions that Satan has created to divide mankind and conquer us, as well as the 3,000 or so fake versions of what Christ and the Apostles started in the 1st century.

He will soon destroy them al and only allow those who ant to be 100% united, and serve him, to survive his war, Armageddon.

As one Jehovah's Witness once said to me, there is no such thing as a British Witness, because whatever nation we belong to, once we are a baptised follower of Christ and servant of his father we are subjects of his Kingdom not an man made Kingdom.

Why?

Because all true followers of Christ owe their primary allegiance to that Kingdom and will support no other government in any way, not even voting for them, though they do comply with all human laws that do not go against God's principles.

Thus they are now part of one, global nation, united completely by love of God and brother, precisely as Jesus said all must be.

So in the end whether or not the Americans can beat IS or the other way round is of no consequence at all to true followers of Christ, since neither will last much longer before being replaced by God's Kingdom throughout the earth.

The one thing neither force can defeat is God.

What does god have to with Iran, or Vietnam?

Other than that he is going to do away with all nations soon, nothing..

Someone told me in church that the world was going to end on 06/06/2006. Another one was on 05/11/2011. So forgive me for not trusting you on when all nations will fall.

You should not trust me. You should not trust any man, only God's word, and whilst that tells us they will fall, it doesn't tell us when.

Even Jehovah's Witnesses have given up trying to second guess God a long time ago.


However I am interested because the actions of IS could well be the spark which turns governments against all religious involvement.

Well, the modern nations that have more peace already have governments that are not helping religious involvement but are not fighting religion either.

Ah yes except there is no peace, not really, though it depends on what you call peace.

Peace, in bible terms is far more than an absence of war. There are many things that disturb the peace of modern nations, even the US and Europe.

Things like homelessness, poverty, starvation, death, political divisions, theft, violence.

All things that God will soon do away with.

How soon, I don't know, but as Christ said it will come on us as a thief in the night, exactly when we least expect it. Judging by Revelation that will be when most people think religion really is dead, amongst other things.

It is a bit like the trouble we are storing up for ourselves by destroying our environment. As well as the economic problems we are causing.

We have started the snowball rolling down the mountain, and it getting bigger and accelerating all the time.
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3/12/2015 5:51:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 5:33:56 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 5:15:49 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:32:04 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:22:49 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:02:06 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 3:11:42 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 2:47:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 1:16:54 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

America has the largest military in history. Iran can't win. There is no scenario where they can destroy Israel and bask in their glory before being invaded and toppled.

No? the North Vietnamese defeated them.

If they can do it, one wonders who else can.

They only won because we quite fighting because we couldn't win without killing everyone in the area. 800,000 minimum civilians were killed by the U.S. Plus it was an unjust war. We assumed that Communism wasn't going to stop until it got to Nebraska unless we stopped the NVA, which was made up of people being suppressed by their French government. They chose Communism because it appealed to people who had nothing. We could have given them a better democracy instead of invading.

There is no such thing as a just the only just wars there ever were were those fought by God in defence of his people.

Since God does not recognise national divisions, they being a product of Satan's system not his.

All you could have given them was another version of Satanic misrule, since Satan is behind all humans Governments as he is behind everything which divides one man from another. That includes all the false religions that Satan has created to divide mankind and conquer us, as well as the 3,000 or so fake versions of what Christ and the Apostles started in the 1st century.

He will soon destroy them al and only allow those who ant to be 100% united, and serve him, to survive his war, Armageddon.

As one Jehovah's Witness once said to me, there is no such thing as a British Witness, because whatever nation we belong to, once we are a baptised follower of Christ and servant of his father we are subjects of his Kingdom not an man made Kingdom.

Why?

Because all true followers of Christ owe their primary allegiance to that Kingdom and will support no other government in any way, not even voting for them, though they do comply with all human laws that do not go against God's principles.

Thus they are now part of one, global nation, united completely by love of God and brother, precisely as Jesus said all must be.

So in the end whether or not the Americans can beat IS or the other way round is of no consequence at all to true followers of Christ, since neither will last much longer before being replaced by God's Kingdom throughout the earth.

The one thing neither force can defeat is God.

What does god have to with Iran, or Vietnam?

Other than that he is going to do away with all nations soon, nothing..

Someone told me in church that the world was going to end on 06/06/2006. Another one was on 05/11/2011. So forgive me for not trusting you on when all nations will fall.

You should not trust me. You should not trust any man, only God's word, and whilst that tells us they will fall, it doesn't tell us when.

Even Jehovah's Witnesses have given up trying to second guess God a long time ago.


However I am interested because the actions of IS could well be the spark which turns governments against all religious involvement.

Well, the modern nations that have more peace already have governments that are not helping religious involvement but are not fighting religion either.

Ah yes except there is no peace, not really, though it depends on what you call peace.

Peace, in bible terms is far more than an absence of war. There are many things that disturb the peace of modern nations, even the US and Europe.

Things like homelessness, poverty, starvation, death, political divisions, theft, violence.

All things that God will soon do away with.

How soon, I don't know, but as Christ said it will come on us as a thief in the night, exactly when we least expect it. Judging by Revelation that will be when most people think religion really is dead, amongst other things.

It is a bit like the trouble we are storing up for ourselves by destroying our environment. As well as the economic problems we are causing.

We have started the snowball rolling down the mountain, and it getting bigger and accelerating all the time.

Well, in the mean time, I will try to stop the snowball. If it kills me, then I die an anti-war advocate. That's enough to get me into the eternal sleep part of hell.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
-Epicurus.
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3/12/2015 6:20:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 4:02:06 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 3:11:42 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 2:47:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 1:16:54 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

America has the largest military in history. Iran can't win. There is no scenario where they can destroy Israel and bask in their glory before being invaded and toppled.

No? the North Vietnamese defeated them.

If they can do it, one wonders who else can.

They only won because we quite fighting because we couldn't win without killing everyone in the area. 800,000 minimum civilians were killed by the U.S. Plus it was an unjust war. We assumed that Communism wasn't going to stop until it got to Nebraska unless we stopped the NVA, which was made up of people being suppressed by their French government. They chose Communism because it appealed to people who had nothing. We could have given them a better democracy instead of invading.

There is no such thing as a just the only just wars there ever were were those fought by God in defence of his people.

Since God does not recognise national divisions, they being a product of Satan's system not his.

All you could have given them was another version of Satanic misrule, since Satan is behind all humans Governments as he is behind everything which divides one man from another. That includes all the false religions that Satan has created to divide mankind and conquer us, as well as the 3,000 or so fake versions of what Christ and the Apostles started in the 1st century.

He will soon destroy them al and only allow those who ant to be 100% united, and serve him, to survive his war, Armageddon.

As one Jehovah's Witness once said to me, there is no such thing as a British Witness, because whatever nation we belong to, once we are a baptised follower of Christ and servant of his father we are subjects of his Kingdom not an man made Kingdom.

Why?

Because all true followers of Christ owe their primary allegiance to that Kingdom and will support no other government in any way, not even voting for them, though they do comply with all human laws that do not go against God's principles.

Thus they are now part of one, global nation, united completely by love of God and brother, precisely as Jesus said all must be.

So in the end whether or not the Americans can beat IS or the other way round is of no consequence at all to true followers of Christ, since neither will last much longer before being replaced by God's Kingdom throughout the earth.

The one thing neither force can defeat is God.

No flesh can defeat God's invisible army called the Word of the Lord, known as the Lamb of God.

Revelation 15
3: And they sing the song of Moses, the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, "Great and wonderful are thy deeds, O Lord God the Almighty! Just and true are thy ways, O King of the ages!
4: Who shall not fear and glorify thy name, O Lord? For thou alone art holy. All nations shall come and worship thee, for thy judgments have been revealed."

Revelation 19
7: Let us rejoice and exult and give him the glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his Bride has made herself ready;
8: it was granted her to be clothed with fine linen, bright and pure" -- for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints.
9: And the angel said to me, "Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb." And he said to me, "These are true words of God."
10: Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brethren who hold the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
11: Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! He who sat upon it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war.
12: His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems; and he has a name inscribed which no one knows but himself.
13: He is clad in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God.

Yes, MCB, you are in the Lamb but so is ALL God's created people. It's the flesh of man ( Babylon ) that will be destroyed at the end of this age.

17: Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly in midheaven, "Come, gather for the great supper of God,
18: to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave, both small and great."
19: And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who sits upon the horse and against his army.
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3/12/2015 7:25:22 PM
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Rant, I'm putting your war provocation topics on report> O My>is it like Israel Beheading Iran?? and Im talking about it1> your a joke1
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3/12/2015 7:31:50 PM
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JJ50. you put me on report too. Wow!> that's going to shake the earth. Enjoy your satanic endevours.
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3/12/2015 7:33:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 5:33:56 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 5:15:49 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:32:04 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:22:49 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:02:06 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 3:11:42 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 2:47:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 1:16:54 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

America has the largest military in history. Iran can't win. There is no scenario where they can destroy Israel and bask in their glory before being invaded and toppled.


Are the Iranians talking about going past any enemy militarily or by being peaceful and minding their business while building a solid economy with their new found nuclear power?

The U.S. military only has one view of this world and it's to dominate it economically and they will use all the weapons they can to make sure they keep the American corporations and the U.S. government in control of the world.
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3/13/2015 5:54:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 7:33:31 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/12/2015 5:33:56 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 5:15:49 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:32:04 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:22:49 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 4:02:06 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 3:11:42 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 2:47:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/12/2015 1:16:54 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 8:17:44 AM, Rant wrote:
Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari claimed Wednesday that Iran can defeat the US in "any scenario." At a convention in Tehran, Jafari boasted "we have grown so much (more) powerful that we don't feel concerned about the enemy's unwise attitude. We can go past any enemy scenario, and this has been proved in our contemporary history," according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

America has the largest military in history. Iran can't win. There is no scenario where they can destroy Israel and bask in their glory before being invaded and toppled.


Are the Iranians talking about going past any enemy militarily or by being peaceful and minding their business while building a solid economy with their new found nuclear power?

The U.S. military only has one view of this world and it's to dominate it economically and they will use all the weapons they can to make sure they keep the American corporations and the U.S. government in control of the world.

From what I gather, neither, they are just posturing saying they can bet the US, presumably to try and discourage them from attacking.

I admit that to me it is just like watching the story in a film develop because I'm not directly involved at all.
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3/13/2015 5:57:19 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 7:31:50 PM, Rant wrote:
JJ50. you put me on report too. Wow!> that's going to shake the earth. Enjoy your satanic endevours.

Don't take JJ50, seriously she is just hate filled, absolutely typical of one who is too far under the influence of Satan's spirit.

Bitterness and hatred such as hers are typical of his work.
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3/13/2015 6:13:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/12/2015 5:51:34 PM, omanjoka wrote:
At 3/12/2015 5:33:56 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:

We have started the snowball rolling down the mountain, and it getting bigger and accelerating all the time.

Well, in the mean time, I will try to stop the snowball. If it kills me, then I die an anti-war advocate. That's enough to get me into the eternal sleep part of hell.

There is nothing any human can do behind it. There is a much more powerful force driving them on.

That is why God confused the languages at Babel, to prevent just this happening before he was ready for it.

Genesis 11:6-7
ASV(i) 6 And Jehovah said, Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is what they begin to do: and now nothing will be withholden from them, which they purpose to do. 7 Come, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one anothers speech.

God knew that with Satan urging them to do things which eh knew would lead them into destroying themselves, which is what is happening now, unless he stepped in and slowed things down it would happen too soon for his plan, so he did.

That is also why he allowed Satan access to heaven where he spent "day and night" taunting God and the faithful Angels over his success with the majority of humanity, to distract him from spending too much time pushing us.

Since he has been cast down to the earth he can give us 24/7 attention and has done so, not only driving us to our own physical destruction, by destroying our environment as we are, and disturbing the weather systems as we are, and have been doing with an incredible increase in speed since he was cast down about 150 years ago, but also by destroying those with a spiritual interest by increasing the number of false Christian faiths from about a dozen to around 3,000 and distracting everyone else from thoughts of religion any way he can.

As you can see, looking around you, he has about 99% of humanity nicely caught in his traps at the moment.

However, Jehovah has drawn a slowly growing group of people to his son's side to try and attract as many people as possible out of Satan's clutches.

Of course Satan also does all he can to turn people against them when they knock on their doors doing God's work.

There's only one exit route from all that is coming, and even that goes straight through it for the faithful.
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3/13/2015 6:19:21 AM
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If Satan exists MCB must be his pawn, he is doing such an excellent job of trashing Christianity with his garbage!
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3/13/2015 7:10:07 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/13/2015 6:19:21 AM, JJ50 wrote:
If Satan exists MCB must be his pawn, he is doing such an excellent job of trashing Christianity with his garbage!

Well Christianity as we know it is part of Satan's arrangement anyway, he corrupted the original at, or just after, the end of the 1st century, precisely;y as Christ and the Apostles foretold.

Therefore if I am trashing Christianity as we know it, I am trashing Satan's work, or one part of it anyway.

Shame he has you so fully under his influence, your anger and bitterness are signs of his spirit acting in you, just as the exact opposite are signs of God's spirit in me

Galatians 5:22-23
ASV(i) 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 meekness, self-control; against such there is no law.

All who have God's spirit, such as I, and the JWs, show those in some degree or another, depending on our level of maturity.