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7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM
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This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

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7/17/2010 8:14:16 PM
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At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

I thought Jesus was crystal clear on this - love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, body, and soul and your neighbor as yourself.

/Thread ?
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7/17/2010 8:19:23 PM
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At 7/17/2010 8:14:16 PM, JustCallMeTarzan wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

I thought Jesus was crystal clear on this - love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, body, and soul and your neighbor as yourself.

/Thread ?

This.
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7/17/2010 8:45:52 PM
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At 7/17/2010 8:14:16 PM, JustCallMeTarzan wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

I thought Jesus was crystal clear on this - love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, body, and soul and your neighbor as yourself.
This.
"We are half-hearted creatures,
fooling about with drink and sex and
ambition when infinite joy is offered us,
like an ignorant child who wants to go on
making mud pies in a slum because he
cannot imagine what is meant by the offer
of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily
pleased."—C.S. Lewis, "The Weight of Glory"
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7/17/2010 8:46:57 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

Question: If this were open to everyone, wouldn't it help clear up a huge amount of misunderstanding of our faith?
"We are half-hearted creatures,
fooling about with drink and sex and
ambition when infinite joy is offered us,
like an ignorant child who wants to go on
making mud pies in a slum because he
cannot imagine what is meant by the offer
of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily
pleased."—C.S. Lewis, "The Weight of Glory"
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7/17/2010 8:48:08 PM
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At 7/17/2010 8:46:57 PM, Valtarov wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

Question: If this were open to everyone, wouldn't it help clear up a huge amount of misunderstanding of our faith?

I opened this up to try and understand the reasoning of other Christian faiths
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
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7/17/2010 8:50:53 PM
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At 7/17/2010 8:48:08 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:46:57 PM, Valtarov wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

Question: If this were open to everyone, wouldn't it help clear up a huge amount of misunderstanding of our faith?

I opened this up to try and understand the reasoning of other Christian faiths

Does the Church of Latter-Day Saints believe differently than "Agapein the Lord thy God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and agapein your neighbor as thyself." ?
"We are half-hearted creatures,
fooling about with drink and sex and
ambition when infinite joy is offered us,
like an ignorant child who wants to go on
making mud pies in a slum because he
cannot imagine what is meant by the offer
of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily
pleased."—C.S. Lewis, "The Weight of Glory"
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7/17/2010 9:59:51 PM
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I think the part of Christianity I would apply to my life and the only good part about it is commandments 6-9 (lol 69) and the idea of accepting everyone as they are and not trying to change them, or in any way be mean to them.

Much of the stuff most Christians like to not live by. (most, I know some are good tho)
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7/17/2010 11:39:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

Nothing personal, but you're not a Christian. Jannah is right, even though she was kidding.

While I am not a Christian, I know quite a bit about Christian doctrine. Perhaps these are the main principles of Christianity:

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." (Matthew 7:12, Matthew 22:39, Luke 6:31)

New International Version (©1984)
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." Matthew 19:21

Given the frequency with which Jesus refers to the poor, this seems to be plausible. Anyone that says otherwise probably has an agenda (e.g., the Republican Party). Jesus didn't seem to place a heavy emphasis on OT law. For example, Jesus never mentioned homosexuality and may have himself actually been gay.

"Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples whom Jesus loved"
John 13.23

Anyway, just follow the Golden Rule and you will end up being a decent person.
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7/18/2010 3:08:16 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 8:14:16 PM, JustCallMeTarzan wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

I thought Jesus was crystal clear on this - love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, body, and soul and your neighbor as yourself.

/Thread ?

Yes
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7/18/2010 1:43:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 8:52:23 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
No to derail this thread or anything, but are Mormons trinitarians?

1st article of faith
We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
In addition we believe that God the Eternal Father has a body and that Jesus Christ has a body of flesh and bone and although not official church cannon it is widely believed the the Holy Ghost will at some point also receive a body
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
Marilyn Poe

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7/18/2010 1:44:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 8:50:53 PM, Valtarov wrote:


Does the Church of Latter-Day Saints believe differently than "Agapein the Lord thy God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and agapein your neighbor as thyself." ?

No, we do believe these to be the two greatest commandments but I was looking for more of what other faiths believe to be the greatest idea or concept not necessarily instruction. Or what is the most important event in Christianity?
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
Marilyn Poe

Strikeeagle wrote
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7/18/2010 1:45:54 PM
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At 7/18/2010 1:43:13 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:52:23 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
No to derail this thread or anything, but are Mormons trinitarians?

1st article of faith
We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
In addition we believe that God the Eternal Father has a body and that Jesus Christ has a body of flesh and bone and although not official church cannon it is widely believed the the Holy Ghost will at some point also receive a body

So in other words you are trinitarian?
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7/18/2010 1:46:11 PM
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At 7/17/2010 11:39:10 PM, Freeman wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

Nothing personal, but you're not a Christian. Jannah is right, even though she was kidding.

Why are we not Christians?
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
Marilyn Poe

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7/18/2010 1:53:51 PM
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At 7/18/2010 1:46:11 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/17/2010 11:39:10 PM, Freeman wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

Nothing personal, but you're not a Christian. Jannah is right, even though she was kidding.

Why are we not Christians?

Probably because the Book of Mormon
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7/18/2010 1:59:38 PM
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At 7/18/2010 1:53:51 PM, whatledge wrote:
At 7/18/2010 1:46:11 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/17/2010 11:39:10 PM, Freeman wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

Nothing personal, but you're not a Christian. Jannah is right, even though she was kidding.

Why are we not Christians?

Probably because the Book of Mormon

Why would that disqualify us from Christianity we also believe the bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. In fact the BoM would seem to me to strengthen the idea of the LDS Church being Christian because we believe it to be another testament of Jesus Christ
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
Marilyn Poe

Strikeeagle wrote
The only way I will stop believing in God is if he appeared before me and told me that he did not exist.
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7/18/2010 2:01:24 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/18/2010 1:59:38 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/18/2010 1:53:51 PM, whatledge wrote:
At 7/18/2010 1:46:11 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/17/2010 11:39:10 PM, Freeman wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

Nothing personal, but you're not a Christian. Jannah is right, even though she was kidding.

Why are we not Christians?

Probably because the Book of Mormon

Why would that disqualify us from Christianity we also believe the bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. In fact the BoM would seem to me to strengthen the idea of the LDS Church being Christian because we believe it to be another testament of Jesus Christ

Your standard of evidence is appalling.
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7/18/2010 2:22:51 PM
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At 7/18/2010 2:01:24 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 7/18/2010 1:59:38 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/18/2010 1:53:51 PM, whatledge wrote:
At 7/18/2010 1:46:11 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/17/2010 11:39:10 PM, Freeman wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

Nothing personal, but you're not a Christian. Jannah is right, even though she was kidding.

Why are we not Christians?

Probably because the Book of Mormon

Why would that disqualify us from Christianity we also believe the bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. In fact the BoM would seem to me to strengthen the idea of the LDS Church being Christian because we believe it to be another testament of Jesus Christ

Your standard of evidence is appalling.

How so?
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
Marilyn Poe

Strikeeagle wrote
The only way I will stop believing in God is if he appeared before me and told me that he did not exist.
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7/18/2010 2:58:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 11:39:10 PM, Freeman wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

Nothing personal, but you're not a Christian. Jannah is right, even though she was kidding.

While I am not a Christian, I know quite a bit about Christian doctrine. Perhaps these are the main principles of Christianity:

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." (Matthew 7:12, Matthew 22:39, Luke 6:31)

New International Version (©1984)
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." Matthew 19:21

Given the frequency with which Jesus refers to the poor, this seems to be plausible. Anyone that says otherwise probably has an agenda (e.g., the Republican Party). Jesus didn't seem to place a heavy emphasis on OT law. For example, Jesus never mentioned homosexuality and may have himself actually been gay.

"Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples whom Jesus loved"
John 13.23

Anyway, just follow the Golden Rule and you will end up being a decent person.

I thought it was open to everyone. I'm just stating how I live my life, and anything that happens to be Christian about it. I do follow the golden rule to an extent, but have to balance the silver rule into my life as well.
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7/18/2010 3:00:45 PM
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At 7/18/2010 2:22:51 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/18/2010 2:01:24 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 7/18/2010 1:59:38 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/18/2010 1:53:51 PM, whatledge wrote:
At 7/18/2010 1:46:11 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/17/2010 11:39:10 PM, Freeman wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:23 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
This is for Christians only.
What do you believe to be the most important principle, commandment, idea, doctrine, act, etc of Christianity and why

Nothing personal, but you're not a Christian. Jannah is right, even though she was kidding.

Why are we not Christians?

Probably because the Book of Mormon

Why would that disqualify us from Christianity we also believe the bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. In fact the BoM would seem to me to strengthen the idea of the LDS Church being Christian because we believe it to be another testament of Jesus Christ

Your standard of evidence is appalling.

How so?

It would be like calling Christians Jews.
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7/18/2010 3:18:21 PM
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At 7/18/2010 3:00:45 PM, lovelife wrote:


Your standard of evidence is appalling.

How so?

It would be like calling Christians Jews.

I am kinda lost now
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
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7/18/2010 3:20:41 PM
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At 7/18/2010 3:18:21 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/18/2010 3:00:45 PM, lovelife wrote:


Your standard of evidence is appalling.

How so?

It would be like calling Christians Jews.

I am kinda lost now

Mormons believe in more than just Christians do. It may be based off of Christianity, hold the same values, and use the same book, but it also has a book and teachings of its own.
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7/18/2010 3:25:31 PM
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At 7/18/2010 3:20:41 PM, lovelife wrote:

Mormons believe in more than just Christians do. It may be based off of Christianity, hold the same values, and use the same book, but it also has a book and teachings of its own.

True, but that's not what I was referring too. The case for divine inspiration of the Book of Mormon is laughable.
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7/18/2010 3:30:47 PM
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At 7/18/2010 3:25:31 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 7/18/2010 3:20:41 PM, lovelife wrote:

Mormons believe in more than just Christians do. It may be based off of Christianity, hold the same values, and use the same book, but it also has a book and teachings of its own.

True, but that's not what I was referring too. The case for divine inspiration of the Book of Mormon is laughable.

May be true. I was going for an approach that would be least likely to offend anybody though.
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7/18/2010 3:31:37 PM
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At 7/18/2010 3:20:41 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/18/2010 3:18:21 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/18/2010 3:00:45 PM, lovelife wrote:


Your standard of evidence is appalling.

How so?

It would be like calling Christians Jews.

I am kinda lost now

Mormons believe in more than just Christians do. It may be based off of Christianity, hold the same values, and use the same book, but it also has a book and teachings of its own.

The three primary differences between LDS and the rest of Christianity is
1)We believe that God still has prophets apostles and seers here on this earth that receive revelation from God
2)We hold the power of the priesthood and its keys
3)The idea of eternal progression
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
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7/18/2010 3:32:16 PM
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At 7/18/2010 3:25:31 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 7/18/2010 3:20:41 PM, lovelife wrote:


True, but that's not what I was referring too. The case for divine inspiration of the Book of Mormon is laughable.

What is so laughable about it. Can you actually disprove it?
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
Marilyn Poe

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7/18/2010 3:34:28 PM
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At 7/18/2010 3:32:16 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/18/2010 3:25:31 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 7/18/2010 3:20:41 PM, lovelife wrote:


True, but that's not what I was referring too. The case for divine inspiration of the Book of Mormon is laughable.

What is so laughable about it. Can you actually disprove it?

Easily. I'd debate you on it, but I've been promising to debate Freeman forever and I think I'm finally free to do it. I bet someone else would be willing to take you up on it right now, or you can wait til I'm done.