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3/15/2015 10:43:27 PM
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The Author of the Bible is Clearly the Wisdom of God: Christ

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Foretold in prophecy by almost all the prophets of old is the Jesus of the Bible: Christ. Christ is a title, meaning"the Messiah,"or "the anointed one."

I PETER 1:10-11

10 Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:

11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

Two dictionaries point to Christ as synonymous with Jesus of Nazareth: One is "An Introductory Dictionary of Theology and Religious Studies" by Orlando Espin (2007) and "A Dictionary of Jewish-Christian Relations" by Edward Prager (2005).

Prophetic Psalms and figures portrayed by the things of the law were fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ.

LUKE 24:44

And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

"Me" talking here is Christ. All things concerning him that were written: 1) in the law of Moses, 2) in the prophets, and 3) in the psalms must be fulfilled. As such, He has an important role to play in the writing of these parts.

Actually, the paschal lamb being offered by the Israelites throughout the centuries before Christ is an antitype of Him. An antitype is something that corresponds to or is foreshadowed in a type.

I CORINTHIANS 5:7 (RSV)

Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our paschal lamb, has been sacrificed.

The Son of God who became Jesus Christ in the flesh existed from eternity with the Father.Notice the time element involved here: "before the world was."

JOHN 17:5

And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

When He was born in the flesh, the prophecy explicitly clarified His origin.

MICAH 5:2

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

He is called the "Son of God" because He was born of God - before anything else came into existence.

HEBREWS 1:4-5

4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

PSALMS 2:7

I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

HEBREWS 5:5

So also Christ glorified not himself to be made a high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, today have I begotten thee.

Everything was created in Him, through Him and for Him. Him here is Christ.

COLOSSIANS 1:16-19 (RSV)

16 for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities--all things were created through him and for him.

17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

18 He is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning, the first-born from the dead, that in everything he might be pre-eminent.

19 For in him all the fulness of God was pleased to dwell,

Christ is the power behind the creation of everything. For believers,Apostle Paul described Christ as the power and wisdom of God.

I CORINTHIANS 1:24

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

He is the force behind every work of the Father Almighty.

JOHN 1:2-3 (RSV)

2 He was in the beginning with God;

3 all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.

Jesus Christ, as the power of God, is the unseen worker in everything that the Father does! The Prophets and the Apostles preached and wrote with Christ being the unseen force that directed them, without which they can do nothing.

LUKE 11:49

Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:

JOHN 15:5

I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

The truth is, the power or energy that moved the Apostles and the Prophets to preach and to write is the Lord Jesus Christ. Profoundly speaking, He is the author of the entire Holy Book!

What is written in the paper pages of the Holy Scriptures is really intended by the Lord Jesus Christ to be written in the four chambers of the human heart!

II CORINTHIANS 3:3 (NRSV)

and you show that you are a letter of Christ, prepared by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

II CORINTHIANS 3:3

Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

Christ, the beloved Son of God, is the center of the scriptures. Yet, He is the most debased personage in the Scriptures!

I CORINTHIANS 2:6-8

6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to naught:

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Christ is the Lord of glory.

JAMES 2:1

My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.

He is the wisdom of God ordained before the creation of the world. The wisdom by which everything came into existence is the very wisdom that caused the writing of the entire Bible.

PSALMS 104:24

O LORD, how manifold are thy works! in wisdom hast thou made them all: the earth is full of thy riches.

Let us take an example of the wisdom that was caused by the Wisdom of God to be written in the Bible. Long before human science discovered the cell, the building block of living things, with the intricate universe of activities, information, and mysteries within it, the Bible tells us the difference between cells of humans, animals, birds, and fishes.

I CORINTHIANS 15:39

All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

It is wonderful to note recent discoveries about the DNA and the chromosomes in man as different from those in apes. This discovery proves the accuracy of the information given by the Wisdom of God in the Bible! Apes are different from man, belying the theory of evolution!

Science found DNA differences in human and chimp.

Long before the invention of the Hubble Space Telescope and modern knowledge in astronomy, the Bible carried an advanced record of things that at the time of the writing of the Scriptures is impossible for a man to fathom and understand!

I CORINTHIANS 15:41

There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

Notice that some stars are a million times brighter than the sun " allowing for the fact that God made the sun just right for the benefit of man and his needs.
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3/15/2015 10:43:37 PM
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The Bible even informs us of a fact written almost 3,000 years ago but understood only very recently by human science:the cause and the existence of black holes.

HEBREWS 1:10-12

10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;

12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

Stars do age and become decadent.When a star grows old and dies, a black hole is formed.It means God did not intend stars to remain forever. Stars are God"s handiwork and he "folds them up" when the time comes. The decay of a star involves a black hole forming.Here"s an artist"s rendering of black hole. (http://chandra.harvard.edu...)

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) is the United States government agency responsible for the civilian space program as well as aeronautics and aerospace research. Here"s its explanation about black hole.

These scientific discoveries prove the wisdom written in the Bible. These prove the accuracy of the Holy Scriptures. There is a purpose being worked out here on earth and someone is in charge.

Something accurate does not become inaccurate. Something accurate must not be tailored to pacify the conflicts popping up in the inquisitive human mind. But the friend asking these questions said:

" I, for one, have had to tailor my own beliefs to be able to survive the thousand questions that I have been asking myself over so many years."

We shall soon discover the wisdom that will answer these doubts in the next episode of our blog.

God bless.
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3/16/2015 1:51:23 AM
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At 3/15/2015 10:43:27 PM, Bendido wrote...........The Author of the Bible is Clearly the Wisdom of God: Christ.

Gentorev........ Correct! "CHRIST" the anointed one is the author of all scripture.

Genesis 5: 23; Enoch was 365 (In days---A calendar year the one year old sacrificial Lamb of God.) and had spent his life in fellowship with God when he disappeared because God had Taken him.

Hebrews 11: 5; "By faith Enoch was translated (To change from one form to another) so that he should not experience death; and he was not found, because God had Translated him.

The only man to have ascended to the ends of all time and was translated so as to never see death, and this man, plays absolutely no part in the belief of the universal church of Constantine: "The Stone that the builder's rejected, has turned out to be the most important stone of all."

The great and glorious one who, clothed and girded in fire was anointed to serve God before the body of Adam=Mankind into all eternity, the heavenly Simulacrum=blueprint, of the new species that comes from mankind (THE SON OF MAN) which is the sin offering that God has prepared for us.

Enoch was carried up in a whirlwind of fire and escorted to the tenth heaven which is called Aravoth, where the archangel Michael led Enoch to before the Lord"s face

"And I fell prone and bowed down to the Lord, and the Lord with his lips said to me: Have courage, Enoch, do not fear, arise and stand before my face into eternity.

And the archistratege. Or, "the commander of the armies of the nations, named Michael, lifted me up, and led me to before the Lord"s face. And the Lord said to his servants tempting them: Let Enoch stand before my face into eternity, and the glorious ones bowed down to the Lord, and said: Let Enoch go according to Your word.

And the Lord said to Michael: Go and take Enoch from out of his earthly garments, and anoint him with my sweet ointment, and put him into the garments of My glory. And Michael did thus, as the Lord told him. He anointed me, and dressed me, and the appearance of that ointment is more than the great light, and his ointment is like sweet dew, and its smell mild, shining like the sun"s ray, and I looked at myself, and I was like one of his glorious ones. Or one of the seven highest angels.

And the Lord summoned one of his archangels by name Pravuil, whose knowledge was quicker in wisdom than the other archangels, who wrote all the deeds of the Lord; and the Lord said to Pravuil: Bring out the books from my store-houses, and a reed of quick-writing, and give it to Enoch, and deliver to him the choice and comforting books out of your hand.

And he was telling me all the works of heaven, earth and sea, and all the elements, their passages and goings, and the thunderings of the thunders, the sun and moon, the goings and changes of the stars, the seasons, years, days, and hours, the risings of the wind, the numbers of the angels, and the formation of their songs, and all human things, the tongue of every human song and life, the commandments, instructions, and sweet-voiced singings, and all things that it is fitting to learn.

And Pravuil said to me: All the things that I have told you, we have written. Sit and write all the souls of mankind, however many of them are born, and the places prepared for them to eternity; for all souls are prepared to eternity, before the formation of the world.

And all double thirty days and thirty nights, and I wrote out all things exactly, and wrote three hundred and sixty-six books.

And the Lord said to Enoch: I give you Samuil and Raguil, who led you up, and the books, and go down to earth, and tell your sons all that I have told you, and all that you have seen, from the lower heaven up to my throne, and all the troops.

Then he called forward and ancient angel as cold as ice, and told Enoch, "If thy face were not frozen here, no man on earth would be able to behold thee.

The Enoch was told to give his sons the books of the handwriting, and they will read (them) and will know me for the creator of all things, and will understand how there is no other God but me.

And let them distribute the books of your handwriting"children to children, generation to generation, nations to nations

Enoch wrote the names and the works of every man who would ever live, before they were even born into this world.

Sandalphon is an archangel in Jewish and Christian writings. Sandalphon figures prominently in the mystical literary traditions of Rabbinic Judaism and early Christianity, notably in the Midrash, Talmud, and Kabbalah.

Some of the earliest sources on Sandalphon refer to him as the prophet Elijah transfigured and elevated to angelic status. Other sources (mainly from the midrashic period) describe him as the "twin brother" of Metatron, whose human origin as Enoch was similar to the human origin of Sandalphon.[2]

Sandalphron and Metatron are post human angels, Metatron is the name that was given to Enoch after he had been translated from a body of corruptible matter into a glorious body of incorruptible light, and Sandalphron, who is erroneously thought by some to be Metatron"s twin, is in fact Elijah"s angelic name after he was carried up to stand before Enoch and was also transfigured.

Metatron is also mentioned in the Pseudepigrapha, most prominently in the Hebrew Book of Enoch (also called Third Enoch), in which his grand title, "the lesser YHVH" resurfaces. It is also believed that Enoch=Metatron was the angel "JHVH" that led the children of Israel through the 40 year wilderness.The one who said to Moses in Deuteronomy 18: 18; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people; I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people all that I command. He will speak in my name, etc.
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3/16/2015 2:10:47 AM
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At 3/16/2015 1:51:23 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 3/15/2015 10:43:27 PM, Bendido wrote...........The Author of the Bible is Clearly the Wisdom of God: Christ.

Gentorev........ Correct! "CHRIST" the anointed one is the author of all scripture.

Genesis 5: 23; Enoch was 365 (In days---A calendar year the one year old sacrificial Lamb of God.) and had spent his life in fellowship with God when he disappeared because God had Taken him.

Hebrews 11: 5; "By faith Enoch was translated (To change from one form to another) so that he should not experience death; and he was not found, because God had Translated him.

the correct translation:{{{{Enoch, should not see death}}}}
Hebrews 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

but enoch should also experience death...WHY? continue the verse..

Hebrews 11:13
These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

{{{{These all died in faith}}}}}


The only man to have ascended to the ends of all time and was translated so as to never see death, and this man, plays absolutely no part in the belief of the universal church of Constantine: "The Stone that the builder's rejected, has turned out to be the most important stone of all."

The great and glorious one who, clothed and girded in fire was anointed to serve God before the body of Adam=Mankind into all eternity, the heavenly Simulacrum=blueprint, of the new species that comes from mankind (THE SON OF MAN) which is the sin offering that God has prepared for us.

Enoch was carried up in a whirlwind of fire and escorted to the tenth heaven which is called Aravoth, where the archangel Michael led Enoch to before the Lord"s face

"And I fell prone and bowed down to the Lord, and the Lord with his lips said to me: Have courage, Enoch, do not fear, arise and stand before my face into eternity.

And the archistratege. Or, "the commander of the armies of the nations, named Michael, lifted me up, and led me to before the Lord"s face. And the Lord said to his servants tempting them: Let Enoch stand before my face into eternity, and the glorious ones bowed down to the Lord, and said: Let Enoch go according to Your word.

And the Lord said to Michael: Go and take Enoch from out of his earthly garments, and anoint him with my sweet ointment, and put him into the garments of My glory. And Michael did thus, as the Lord told him. He anointed me, and dressed me, and the appearance of that ointment is more than the great light, and his ointment is like sweet dew, and its smell mild, shining like the sun"s ray, and I looked at myself, and I was like one of his glorious ones. Or one of the seven highest angels.

And the Lord summoned one of his archangels by name Pravuil, whose knowledge was quicker in wisdom than the other archangels, who wrote all the deeds of the Lord; and the Lord said to Pravuil: Bring out the books from my store-houses, and a reed of quick-writing, and give it to Enoch, and deliver to him the choice and comforting books out of your hand.

And he was telling me all the works of heaven, earth and sea, and all the elements, their passages and goings, and the thunderings of the thunders, the sun and moon, the goings and changes of the stars, the seasons, years, days, and hours, the risings of the wind, the numbers of the angels, and the formation of their songs, and all human things, the tongue of every human song and life, the commandments, instructions, and sweet-voiced singings, and all things that it is fitting to learn.

And Pravuil said to me: All the things that I have told you, we have written. Sit and write all the souls of mankind, however many of them are born, and the places prepared for them to eternity; for all souls are prepared to eternity, before the formation of the world.

And all double thirty days and thirty nights, and I wrote out all things exactly, and wrote three hundred and sixty-six books.

And the Lord said to Enoch: I give you Samuil and Raguil, who led you up, and the books, and go down to earth, and tell your sons all that I have told you, and all that you have seen, from the lower heaven up to my throne, and all the troops.

Then he called forward and ancient angel as cold as ice, and told Enoch, "If thy face were not frozen here, no man on earth would be able to behold thee.

The Enoch was told to give his sons the books of the handwriting, and they will read (them) and will know me for the creator of all things, and will understand how there is no other God but me.

And let them distribute the books of your handwriting"children to children, generation to generation, nations to nations

Enoch wrote the names and the works of every man who would ever live, before they were even born into this world.

Sandalphon is an archangel in Jewish and Christian writings. Sandalphon figures prominently in the mystical literary traditions of Rabbinic Judaism and early Christianity, notably in the Midrash, Talmud, and Kabbalah.

Some of the earliest sources on Sandalphon refer to him as the prophet Elijah transfigured and elevated to angelic status. Other sources (mainly from the midrashic period) describe him as the "twin brother" of Metatron, whose human origin as Enoch was similar to the human origin of Sandalphon.[2]

Sandalphron and Metatron are post human angels, Metatron is the name that was given to Enoch after he had been translated from a body of corruptible matter into a glorious body of incorruptible light, and Sandalphron, who is erroneously thought by some to be Metatron"s twin, is in fact Elijah"s angelic name after he was carried up to stand before Enoch and was also transfigured.

Metatron is also mentioned in the Pseudepigrapha, most prominently in the Hebrew Book of Enoch (also called Third Enoch), in which his grand title, "the lesser YHVH" resurfaces. It is also believed that Enoch=Metatron was the angel "JHVH" that led the children of Israel through the 40 year wilderness.The one who said to Moses in Deuteronomy 18: 18; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people; I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people all that I command. He will speak in my name, etc.
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3/16/2015 2:56:04 AM
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At 3/15/2015 10:43:27 PM, Bendido wrote:
The Author of the Bible is Clearly the Wisdom of God: Christ

http://www.controversyextraordinary.com...

Foretold in prophecy by almost all the prophets of old is the Jesus of the Bible: Christ. Christ is a title, meaning"the Messiah,"or "the anointed one."

Christ is NOT the last name of a saint named Jesus who was killed for testifying to the knowledge of God ( known as Christ, or the Word of the Lord ).

Not ONE Christian understands that Jesus was only the first saint and the last saint is the one writing this post. The 1,000 year reign of Christ is almost over as soon as I'm killed for testifying to Christ ( The knowledge of God, also known as His Wisdom ).
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3/16/2015 3:17:00 AM
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At 3/16/2015 2:56:04 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/15/2015 10:43:27 PM, Bendido wrote:
The Author of the Bible is Clearly the Wisdom of God: Christ

http://www.controversyextraordinary.com...

Foretold in prophecy by almost all the prophets of old is the Jesus of the Bible: Christ. Christ is a title, meaning"the Messiah,"or "the anointed one."

Christ is NOT the last name of a saint named Jesus who was killed for testifying to the knowledge of God ( known as Christ, or the Word of the Lord ).

Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.


Not ONE Christian understands that Jesus was only the first saint and the last saint is the one writing this post. The 1,000 year reign of Christ is almost over as soon as I'm killed for testifying to Christ ( The knowledge of God, also known as His Wisdom ).

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
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3/16/2015 3:32:15 AM
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At 3/16/2015 3:17:00 AM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/16/2015 2:56:04 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/15/2015 10:43:27 PM, Bendido wrote:
The Author of the Bible is Clearly the Wisdom of God: Christ

http://www.controversyextraordinary.com...

Foretold in prophecy by almost all the prophets of old is the Jesus of the Bible: Christ. Christ is a title, meaning"the Messiah,"or "the anointed one."

Christ is NOT the last name of a saint named Jesus who was killed for testifying to the knowledge of God ( known as Christ, or the Word of the Lord ).

Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.


Not ONE Christian understands that Jesus was only the first saint and the last saint is the one writing this post. The 1,000 year reign of Christ is almost over as soon as I'm killed for testifying to Christ ( The knowledge of God, also known as His Wisdom ).

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Take away the bible 100% human devised Story book and try again!
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3/16/2015 3:38:48 AM
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At 3/16/2015 3:32:15 AM, Composer wrote:
At 3/16/2015 3:17:00 AM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/16/2015 2:56:04 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/15/2015 10:43:27 PM, Bendido wrote:
The Author of the Bible is Clearly the Wisdom of God: Christ

http://www.controversyextraordinary.com...

Foretold in prophecy by almost all the prophets of old is the Jesus of the Bible: Christ. Christ is a title, meaning"the Messiah,"or "the anointed one."

Christ is NOT the last name of a saint named Jesus who was killed for testifying to the knowledge of God ( known as Christ, or the Word of the Lord ).

Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.


Not ONE Christian understands that Jesus was only the first saint and the last saint is the one writing this post. The 1,000 year reign of Christ is almost over as soon as I'm killed for testifying to Christ ( The knowledge of God, also known as His Wisdom ).

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Take away the bible 100% human devised Story book and try again!

take away 100% fairy tale of atheist...""sphagetti Monster""
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3/16/2015 4:08:44 AM
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According to Qur'an, there maybe facts in the Bible.
But the Bible of today has not the original.
The original Message has been revealad to the Messengers from the God.
But Jews have lost it and some men tried to rewrite as much as they remember centuries later.
So today Jewish Bible is not from God and contains many contradictions.

And the Christian Bible are mostly Paul's Epistles and four man-made Gospels.

So, it can't be true to say that the Bible has been by Jesus.
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3/16/2015 4:23:41 AM
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At 3/16/2015 4:08:44 AM, frbnsn wrote:
According to Qur'an, there maybe facts in the Bible.
But the Bible of today has not the original.
The original Message has been revealad to the Messengers from the God.
But Jews have lost it and some men tried to rewrite as much as they remember centuries later.
So today Jewish Bible is not from God and contains many contradictions.

And the Christian Bible are mostly Paul's Epistles and four man-made Gospels.

all writer of the bible is man of God......
1 Peter 1:12
Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

So, it can't be true to say that the Bible has been by Jesus.
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3/16/2015 6:12:37 AM
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At 3/16/2015 2:10:47 AM, Bendido wrote...............the correct translation:{{{{Enoch, should not see death}}}}
Hebrews 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

but enoch should also experience death...WHY? continue the verse..

Hebrews 11:13
These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

{{{{These all died in faith}}}}}

Gentorev........Except Enoch, who did not die. Instead he was taken up to God, where he was translated from a body of corruptible matter into a glorious body of brilliant and blinding light in order that he should not experience death, and nobody could find him because God had taken him up while he was still alive, as was Elijah.

The Book of Enoch the Prophet: 37: 4; "Till the present day such wisdom has never been given by the Lord of Spirits as I have received according to my insight, according to the good pleasure of the Lord of Spirits by whom the lot of eternal life was given to me."

The oldest known Jewish work not included in the Bible is the Book of Enoch. This is a complex work, written in the third (or perhaps even the late fourth) century BCE, after the return from the Babylonian Exile and the establishment of the Second Jewish Commonwealth (6th-5th centuries BCE) and before the Maccabean revolt in 172 BCE. The oldest copies of the Book of Enoch, dating from the third century BCE, were discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls

Among the Dead Sea Scrolls were a number of manuscripts of the Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha, including ten manuscripts of the Book of Enoch in the original Aramaic (until then copies were extant only in an Ethiopic translation of a Greek translation of a Semitic original), which were vital to answering many questions about its origins. Dating of the manuscripts by their script shows that certain parts of Enoch are at least as old as the third century BCE.

But there is enough evidence to suggest that the Israelites were taught from the writings of Righteous Enoch, while they were living in Egypt.

Where else, did Moses, who was brought up in the house of the King and taught by the greatest minds in Egypt, receive the religious regulation, to symbolically transfer
the sins of Israel to a scape-goat which is then sent out into the wilderness to Azazel?

From the Book of Enoch the Prophet, concerning the sons of God who descended in the days of Jared the father of Enoch, the name "JARED" means descending [Chapter 8] 1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all 2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they 3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways.

[Chapter 9] 1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being 2 shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their crying up to the gates of heaven. 3 And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause 4 before the Most High."' And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the 5 ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all 6 things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which 7 men were striving to learn:

Chapter 10:4-9; And again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azazel hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an opening 5 in the desert, which is in Dudael, and cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may 6,7 not see light. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men may not perish through all the secret things that the 8 Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons. And the whole earth has been corrupted 9 through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all sin.'

Moses had been taught that all sin was to be ascribed to Azazel. But in the margins of the catholic study bible Leviticus 16; 20; in reference to transferring the sins of Israel to the scape-goat which was sent out to Azazel, it is written: "The meaning of this Hebrew word (Azazel) is unknown; it may be the name of a desert demon."

Enoch, is the cornerstone to who all the righteous spirits are gathered in his ascent to the ends of heavens in the creation of God's new Temple. Enoch, who is the stone that was rejected by the builders of the , Roman universal church of Emperor Constantine which was established in 325 AD, turns out to be the most important stone of all.

The books of Enoch were cherished by the early christians, until the fourth century, when they were banned by such authorities ,as Hilary, Jerome and Augustine, of the Roman church after which they finally passed out of circulation.
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3/16/2015 7:34:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/16/2015 7:13:02 AM, JJ50 wrote:
The garbage spouted by Bendido and his ilk on this forum is beyond stupidity!

+1

MCB and his psychotic pre-school playmates is growing, MCB, BOG now Bendido!

All claiming to be (ahem) men of a God!
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3/16/2015 9:35:00 AM
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Jesus never wrote anything that is contained in the bible. He never left any memoirs behind that made it into the bible. Everything in the bible is by authors who wrote about a man named Jesus. There is no point in questioning the truth about Jesus. One has to question the motives and authenticity of the authors themselves.
Christians claim the prophesies of Isaiah point to Jesus culminating in his crucifixion. But there were 3 criminals crucified on that day. The prophesies could have equally applied to any one of the three. But the authors biases are quite evident. They did not look for other possibilities.
The Jews who made the judgement had the most to loose. They were about to crucify a messiah prophesied in their scriptures or just another liar and lunatic. 2000 years later the Jews remain convinced they crucified the latter.
So what have Christians done with the bible? We can see from the chosen believers BoG, MCB and Bendido their conclusion are not unanimous despite being aided by the Holy Spirit and God's knowledge which is their created existence according to BoG.
In fact they are seen rebuking the misguided Christian members and mocking their Christian beliefs.
Jesus preached hate and division. And as a man sows so shall he reap. We have hate and division among Christians.
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3/16/2015 6:42:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/16/2015 3:17:00 AM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/16/2015 2:56:04 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/15/2015 10:43:27 PM, Bendido wrote:
The Author of the Bible is Clearly the Wisdom of God: Christ

http://www.controversyextraordinary.com...

Foretold in prophecy by almost all the prophets of old is the Jesus of the Bible: Christ. Christ is a title, meaning"the Messiah,"or "the anointed one."

Christ is NOT the last name of a saint named Jesus who was killed for testifying to the knowledge of God ( known as Christ, or the Word of the Lord ).

Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.


Not ONE Christian understands that Jesus was only the first saint and the last saint is the one writing this post. The 1,000 year reign of Christ is almost over as soon as I'm killed for testifying to Christ ( The knowledge of God, also known as His Wisdom ).

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

ALL us saints wrote and spoke for our Creator directly from His mind where we all exist.

The new testament that was approved the by the heathens who run the Vatican did NOT KNOW OUR CREATOR. They're all a bunch of liars who needed Christianity to make great wealth and to keep the Roman Empire alive in the minds of all those they try control.
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3/17/2015 6:09:24 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/16/2015 6:42:32 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/16/2015 3:17:00 AM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/16/2015 2:56:04 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/15/2015 10:43:27 PM, Bendido wrote:
The Author of the Bible is Clearly the Wisdom of God: Christ

http://www.controversyextraordinary.com...

Foretold in prophecy by almost all the prophets of old is the Jesus of the Bible: Christ. Christ is a title, meaning"the Messiah,"or "the anointed one."

Christ is NOT the last name of a saint named Jesus who was killed for testifying to the knowledge of God ( known as Christ, or the Word of the Lord ).

Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.


Not ONE Christian understands that Jesus was only the first saint and the last saint is the one writing this post. The 1,000 year reign of Christ is almost over as soon as I'm killed for testifying to Christ ( The knowledge of God, also known as His Wisdom ).

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

ALL us saints wrote and spoke for our Creator directly from His mind where we all exist.

The new testament that was approved the by the heathens who run the Vatican did NOT KNOW OUR CREATOR. They're all a bunch of liars who needed Christianity to make great wealth and to keep the Roman Empire alive in the minds of all those they try control.
Are you saying saints are trapped in the Creator's mind? I thought you said you were running around homeless in Campbell, CA. Lol!!!
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3/18/2015 3:58:17 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/16/2015 4:23:41 AM, Bendido wrote:
At 3/16/2015 4:08:44 AM, frbnsn wrote:
According to Qur'an, there maybe facts in the Bible.
But the Bible of today has not the original.
The original Message has been revealad to the Messengers from the God.
But Jews have lost it and some men tried to rewrite as much as they remember centuries later.
So today Jewish Bible is not from God and contains many contradictions.

And the Christian Bible are mostly Paul's Epistles and four man-made Gospels.


all writer of the bible is man of God......
1 Peter 1:12
Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

So, it can't be true to say that the Bible has been by Jesus.

The commissioners appointed by God to bring the word of God down to earth are just the Messengers, not anyone else.