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3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Something this world is very short of.

The only true basis for morality is in fact encapsulated in God's second Law, as quoted by Christ.

"You must love your fellow man as yourself"

So how does our morality fall short?

How many people are starving whilst others throw away nearly as much as we use?

How many people struggle on in poverty whilst others hang on to more than they need?

How many people have no home, through no fault of their own,whilst others have two, or more.

That even one person should be in need is a failure of morality when we live in a world where there is so much more available than we need.

Jesus made that very clear when he told his followers:

Luke 3:10-11
ASV(i) 10 And the multitudes asked him, saying, What then must we do? 11 And he answered and said unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath food, let him do likewise.

What god is a morality which does not treat all equally.

We truly are our brothers keeper.
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3/25/2015 12:26:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Something this world is very short of.

The only true basis for morality is in fact encapsulated in God's second Law, as quoted by Christ.

"You must love your fellow man as yourself"

So how does our morality fall short?

How many people are starving whilst others throw away nearly as much as we use?

How many people struggle on in poverty whilst others hang on to more than they need?

How many people have no home, through no fault of their own,whilst others have two, or more.

That even one person should be in need is a failure of morality when we live in a world where there is so much more available than we need.

Jesus made that very clear when he told his followers:

Luke 3:10-11
ASV(i) 10 And the multitudes asked him, saying, What then must we do? 11 And he answered and said unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath food, let him do likewise.

What god is a morality which does not treat all equally.

We truly are our brothers keeper.

Here is a moral quote from the same book, with the same god

(Exodus 21:7) When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.

And remember, if you are choosing parts, your moral don't came directly from god.
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3/25/2015 1:02:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 12:26:50 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Something this world is very short of.

The only true basis for morality is in fact encapsulated in God's second Law, as quoted by Christ.

"You must love your fellow man as yourself"

So how does our morality fall short?

How many people are starving whilst others throw away nearly as much as we use?

How many people struggle on in poverty whilst others hang on to more than they need?

How many people have no home, through no fault of their own,whilst others have two, or more.

That even one person should be in need is a failure of morality when we live in a world where there is so much more available than we need.

Jesus made that very clear when he told his followers:

Luke 3:10-11
ASV(i) 10 And the multitudes asked him, saying, What then must we do? 11 And he answered and said unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath food, let him do likewise.

What god is a morality which does not treat all equally.

We truly are our brothers keeper.

Here is a moral quote from the same book, with the same god

(Exodus 21:7) When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.

And remember, if you are choosing parts, your moral don't came directly from god.

That is not a moral quote, but a quote from law, which you obviously do not understand the reasons for nor the intent of.

Maybe you should not criticise what you fail to understand.
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3/26/2015 6:35:39 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 1:02:06 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:26:50 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Something this world is very short of.

The only true basis for morality is in fact encapsulated in God's second Law, as quoted by Christ.

"You must love your fellow man as yourself"

So how does our morality fall short?

How many people are starving whilst others throw away nearly as much as we use?

How many people struggle on in poverty whilst others hang on to more than they need?

How many people have no home, through no fault of their own,whilst others have two, or more.

That even one person should be in need is a failure of morality when we live in a world where there is so much more available than we need.

Jesus made that very clear when he told his followers:

Luke 3:10-11
ASV(i) 10 And the multitudes asked him, saying, What then must we do? 11 And he answered and said unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath food, let him do likewise.

What god is a morality which does not treat all equally.

We truly are our brothers keeper.

Here is a moral quote from the same book, with the same god

(Exodus 21:7) When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.

And remember, if you are choosing parts, your moral don't came directly from god.

That is not a moral quote, but a quote from law, which you obviously do not understand the reasons for nor the intent of.

Maybe you should not criticise what you fail to understand.

Sorry for my ignorance, plese explain the reasons for enslave your own daughter, so I no longer will use this passage erroneously.

Just a observation, the word moral come from "mores" what it means "habit or custom", moral are the rules of coexistence.
So " love your fellow" is a rule like slavery, not eat pig, go to church and etc.
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3/26/2015 7:48:53 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 6:35:39 AM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 1:02:06 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:26:50 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Something this world is very short of.

The only true basis for morality is in fact encapsulated in God's second Law, as quoted by Christ.

"You must love your fellow man as yourself"

So how does our morality fall short?

How many people are starving whilst others throw away nearly as much as we use?

How many people struggle on in poverty whilst others hang on to more than they need?

How many people have no home, through no fault of their own,whilst others have two, or more.

That even one person should be in need is a failure of morality when we live in a world where there is so much more available than we need.

Jesus made that very clear when he told his followers:

Luke 3:10-11
ASV(i) 10 And the multitudes asked him, saying, What then must we do? 11 And he answered and said unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath food, let him do likewise.

What god is a morality which does not treat all equally.

We truly are our brothers keeper.

Here is a moral quote from the same book, with the same god

(Exodus 21:7) When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.

And remember, if you are choosing parts, your moral don't came directly from god.

That is not a moral quote, but a quote from law, which you obviously do not understand the reasons for nor the intent of.

Maybe you should not criticise what you fail to understand.

Sorry for my ignorance, plese explain the reasons for enslave your own daughter, so I no longer will use this passage erroneously.

Just a observation, the word moral come from "mores" what it means "habit or custom", moral are the rules of coexistence.
So " love your fellow" is a rule like slavery, not eat pig, go to church and etc.


No problem.

Once you get to know what scripture is all about, especially the Mosaic Law, you start to realise that much of the Mosaic Law is not to allow things to happen, but to control things which it is already known will happen and to minimise the harm from it.

God isn't saying "selling your daughter into slavery is OK" what he is saying is "Well, if you really must these are the rules for it so that minimal harm comes to any"

Before you can even begin to understand the Mosaic Law, and the principles behind it, you have to learn to forget all you know about our culture, and put yourself in the sandals of the people living in that culture, in that time period.

It's not all that long ago that women and girls were sold into service to rich families in the UK, and they could really have doe with such laws to protect them, but they didn't have them.

Ask yourself why some girls, even today, sell themselves into lives of prostitution. IN some countries they have accepted that ti will happen and have legalised and regulated it to protect the girls.

Are they worn got do so? Because that is all the Mosaic Law is doing.

No-one is saying that prostitution is right, but as with the circumstances that caused God to write those laws, and similar laws to protect those who sold themselves into slavery, sometimes economic necessity means there is no other way for a family to survive.

People criticise the Mosaic Law for permitting such things, but better that they are controlled and safeguarded than that they happen in the background, uncontrolled and unprotected, as is the case with slavery today, all too often. It is against the law, so the "slave masters" not only hide their acts but make sure that their "slaves" cannot escape and report them, even if that means killing them and hiding the bodies.

No, it is all too easy to criticise the Mosaic Law, and laws in other countries also, but if it is going to happen anyway, and starvation is what usually forces it to, then it is better to have it controlled by law.

If all you look for are holes and excuses, that is all you will find. You will never find the real truths behind them.

Try driving round the roads looking only at the glass of your windscreen and not at anything the other side of it and see how long it takes for you to hit something.

It is no good just looking at these laws, you have to ask yourself why? In this case, why would a loving God make such a law. It really isn't that difficult.
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3/26/2015 8:31:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:

Once you get to know what scripture is all about, especially the Mosaic Law, you start to realise that much of the Mosaic Law is not to allow things to happen, but to control things which it is already known will happen and to minimise the harm from it.

God isn't saying "selling your daughter into slavery is OK" what he is saying is "Well, if you really must these are the rules for it so that minimal harm comes to any"

Before you can even begin to understand the Mosaic Law, and the principles behind it, you have to learn to forget all you know about our culture, and put yourself in the sandals of the people living in that culture, in that time period.

It's not all that long ago that women and girls were sold into service to rich families in the UK, and they could really have doe with such laws to protect them, but they didn't have them.

Ask yourself why some girls, even today, sell themselves into lives of prostitution. IN some countries they have accepted that ti will happen and have legalised and regulated it to protect the girls.

Are they worn got do so? Because that is all the Mosaic Law is doing.

No-one is saying that prostitution is right, but as with the circumstances that caused God to write those laws, and similar laws to protect those who sold themselves into slavery, sometimes economic necessity means there is no other way for a family to survive.

People criticise the Mosaic Law for permitting such things, but better that they are controlled and safeguarded than that they happen in the background, uncontrolled and unprotected, as is the case with slavery today, all too often. It is against the law, so the "slave masters" not only hide their acts but make sure that their "slaves" cannot escape and report them, even if that means killing them and hiding the bodies.


But, isn't god being condescending with this law, if you gonna arrest the slaver, he can just say "I'm not a criminal, I'm obeying the god's law".
He says "no kill", why he don't said "When you kill, don't torture more then a hour" ?
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3/26/2015 10:30:09 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 8:31:27 AM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:

Once you get to know what scripture is all about, especially the Mosaic Law, you start to realise that much of the Mosaic Law is not to allow things to happen, but to control things which it is already known will happen and to minimise the harm from it.

God isn't saying "selling your daughter into slavery is OK" what he is saying is "Well, if you really must these are the rules for it so that minimal harm comes to any"

Before you can even begin to understand the Mosaic Law, and the principles behind it, you have to learn to forget all you know about our culture, and put yourself in the sandals of the people living in that culture, in that time period.

It's not all that long ago that women and girls were sold into service to rich families in the UK, and they could really have doe with such laws to protect them, but they didn't have them.

Ask yourself why some girls, even today, sell themselves into lives of prostitution. IN some countries they have accepted that ti will happen and have legalised and regulated it to protect the girls.

Are they worn got do so? Because that is all the Mosaic Law is doing.

No-one is saying that prostitution is right, but as with the circumstances that caused God to write those laws, and similar laws to protect those who sold themselves into slavery, sometimes economic necessity means there is no other way for a family to survive.

People criticise the Mosaic Law for permitting such things, but better that they are controlled and safeguarded than that they happen in the background, uncontrolled and unprotected, as is the case with slavery today, all too often. It is against the law, so the "slave masters" not only hide their acts but make sure that their "slaves" cannot escape and report them, even if that means killing them and hiding the bodies.


But, isn't god being condescending with this law, if you gonna arrest the slaver, he can just say "I'm not a criminal, I'm obeying the god's law".
He says "no kill", why he don't said "When you kill, don't torture more then a hour" ?

Torture is not allowed anyway, under any conditions.

Part of the trouble is that people latch on to the word "slave" and think in terms of the slavery that was endemic in the 18th century. The slavery the bible deals with was nothing like that.

One thing you need to understand is what is meant by "slave" in scripture. The equivalent in modern times would be "servant" and some translations actually use the word servant instead of slave in those verses that cover slavery. That is because there was only one word for the two things.

What is the difference between a well cared for servant, on call 24/7/365 and what scripture calls a slave?

Only the length of the contract.

My Imelda was such a servant. She worked for the same family for 5 years, and the only "holiday" she had in that time was with the family. Yes she was given the occasional day out to visit friends, but that was all she got.

God is simply recognising that these things will happen and that it is better to have them legal but controlled for the benefit of all, rather than being done illegally, and with no protection for the slaves whatever.

In a time like when the Mosaic Law was given to Israel, slavery, servitude was going to happen.

Slavery as it was known then was the only form of employment other than casual work, which relied on someone needing work done, and there not being too many others looking for work to do.

Welfare didn't exist, so.

People are employed as servants now, often living in and being on call 24/7, and really tat is exactly what scripture describes as slavery.

How many families in the 19th and 20th centuries sold their children into servitude, working for rich people? And yet no-one criticises that.

How many people do the same today, "selling" themselves into servitude, like my Imelda did, and yet no-one complains about that. In places like the Philippines, if someone get's a "job" in service like my Imelda did, they think themselves fortunate indeed.
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3/26/2015 11:36:02 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 10:30:09 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 8:31:27 AM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:

Once you get to know what scripture is all about, especially the Mosaic Law, you start to realise that much of the Mosaic Law is not to allow things to happen, but to control things which it is already known will happen and to minimise the harm from it.

God isn't saying "selling your daughter into slavery is OK" what he is saying is "Well, if you really must these are the rules for it so that minimal harm comes to any"

Before you can even begin to understand the Mosaic Law, and the principles behind it, you have to learn to forget all you know about our culture, and put yourself in the sandals of the people living in that culture, in that time period.

It's not all that long ago that women and girls were sold into service to rich families in the UK, and they could really have doe with such laws to protect them, but they didn't have them.

Ask yourself why some girls, even today, sell themselves into lives of prostitution. IN some countries they have accepted that ti will happen and have legalised and regulated it to protect the girls.

Are they worn got do so? Because that is all the Mosaic Law is doing.

No-one is saying that prostitution is right, but as with the circumstances that caused God to write those laws, and similar laws to protect those who sold themselves into slavery, sometimes economic necessity means there is no other way for a family to survive.

People criticise the Mosaic Law for permitting such things, but better that they are controlled and safeguarded than that they happen in the background, uncontrolled and unprotected, as is the case with slavery today, all too often. It is against the law, so the "slave masters" not only hide their acts but make sure that their "slaves" cannot escape and report them, even if that means killing them and hiding the bodies.


But, isn't god being condescending with this law, if you gonna arrest the slaver, he can just say "I'm not a criminal, I'm obeying the god's law".
He says "no kill", why he don't said "When you kill, don't torture more then a hour" ?

Torture is not allowed anyway, under any conditions.

Part of the trouble is that people latch on to the word "slave" and think in terms of the slavery that was endemic in the 18th century. The slavery the bible deals with was nothing like that.

One thing you need to understand is what is meant by "slave" in scripture. The equivalent in modern times would be "servant" and some translations actually use the word servant instead of slave in those verses that cover slavery. That is because there was only one word for the two things.

What is the difference between a well cared for servant, on call 24/7/365 and what scripture calls a slave?

Only the length of the contract.

My Imelda was such a servant. She worked for the same family for 5 years, and the only "holiday" she had in that time was with the family. Yes she was given the occasional day out to visit friends, but that was all she got.

God is simply recognising that these things will happen and that it is better to have them legal but controlled for the benefit of all, rather than being done illegally, and with no protection for the slaves whatever.

In a time like when the Mosaic Law was given to Israel, slavery, servitude was going to happen.

Slavery as it was known then was the only form of employment other than casual work, which relied on someone needing work done, and there not being too many others looking for work to do.

Welfare didn't exist, so.

People are employed as servants now, often living in and being on call 24/7, and really tat is exactly what scripture describes as slavery.

How many families in the 19th and 20th centuries sold their children into servitude, working for rich people? And yet no-one criticises that.

How many people do the same today, "selling" themselves into servitude, like my Imelda did, and yet no-one complains about that. In places like the Philippines, if someone get's a "job" in service like my Imelda did, they think themselves fortunate indeed.

Jews had contact with greek and egyptian people, and this people had free workers (not servants) so its not a "new concept".

If you need put the words of god in to a context, it means that you are acting with sophism, his laws change as the environment that it presents, and this is not sign of good character.
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3/26/2015 11:51:32 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 11:36:02 AM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/26/2015 10:30:09 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 8:31:27 AM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:

Once you get to know what scripture is all about, especially the Mosaic Law, you start to realise that much of the Mosaic Law is not to allow things to happen, but to control things which it is already known will happen and to minimise the harm from it.

God isn't saying "selling your daughter into slavery is OK" what he is saying is "Well, if you really must these are the rules for it so that minimal harm comes to any"

Before you can even begin to understand the Mosaic Law, and the principles behind it, you have to learn to forget all you know about our culture, and put yourself in the sandals of the people living in that culture, in that time period.

It's not all that long ago that women and girls were sold into service to rich families in the UK, and they could really have doe with such laws to protect them, but they didn't have them.

Ask yourself why some girls, even today, sell themselves into lives of prostitution. IN some countries they have accepted that ti will happen and have legalised and regulated it to protect the girls.

Are they worn got do so? Because that is all the Mosaic Law is doing.

No-one is saying that prostitution is right, but as with the circumstances that caused God to write those laws, and similar laws to protect those who sold themselves into slavery, sometimes economic necessity means there is no other way for a family to survive.

People criticise the Mosaic Law for permitting such things, but better that they are controlled and safeguarded than that they happen in the background, uncontrolled and unprotected, as is the case with slavery today, all too often. It is against the law, so the "slave masters" not only hide their acts but make sure that their "slaves" cannot escape and report them, even if that means killing them and hiding the bodies.


But, isn't god being condescending with this law, if you gonna arrest the slaver, he can just say "I'm not a criminal, I'm obeying the god's law".
He says "no kill", why he don't said "When you kill, don't torture more then a hour" ?

Torture is not allowed anyway, under any conditions.

Part of the trouble is that people latch on to the word "slave" and think in terms of the slavery that was endemic in the 18th century. The slavery the bible deals with was nothing like that.

One thing you need to understand is what is meant by "slave" in scripture. The equivalent in modern times would be "servant" and some translations actually use the word servant instead of slave in those verses that cover slavery. That is because there was only one word for the two things.

What is the difference between a well cared for servant, on call 24/7/365 and what scripture calls a slave?

Only the length of the contract.

My Imelda was such a servant. She worked for the same family for 5 years, and the only "holiday" she had in that time was with the family. Yes she was given the occasional day out to visit friends, but that was all she got.

God is simply recognising that these things will happen and that it is better to have them legal but controlled for the benefit of all, rather than being done illegally, and with no protection for the slaves whatever.

In a time like when the Mosaic Law was given to Israel, slavery, servitude was going to happen.

Slavery as it was known then was the only form of employment other than casual work, which relied on someone needing work done, and there not being too many others looking for work to do.

Welfare didn't exist, so.

People are employed as servants now, often living in and being on call 24/7, and really tat is exactly what scripture describes as slavery.

How many families in the 19th and 20th centuries sold their children into servitude, working for rich people? And yet no-one criticises that.

How many people do the same today, "selling" themselves into servitude, like my Imelda did, and yet no-one complains about that. In places like the Philippines, if someone get's a "job" in service like my Imelda did, they think themselves fortunate indeed.

Jews had contact with greek and egyptian people, and this people had free workers (not servants) so its not a "new concept".

If you need put the words of god in to a context, it means that you are acting with sophism, his laws change as the environment that it presents, and this is not sign of good character.

God does not change, nor do his requirements from us. His morals and principles never vary.

Why should they? They are perfect for how life should be.

If society moves away from them it is society that is wrong.
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3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
God does not change, nor do his requirements from us. His morals and principles never vary.

You said and I quote:

At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Before you can even begin to understand the Mosaic Law, and the principles behind it, you have to learn to forget all you know about our culture, and put yourself in the sandals of the people living in that culture, in that time period.

This is change as the environment that it presents, or I consider the environment which they lived, or not.
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3/26/2015 12:35:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
God does not change, nor do his requirements from us. His morals and principles never vary.

You said and I quote:

At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Before you can even begin to understand the Mosaic Law, and the principles behind it, you have to learn to forget all you know about our culture, and put yourself in the sandals of the people living in that culture, in that time period.

This is change as the environment that it presents, or I consider the environment which they lived, or not.

That still doesn't contradict what I said about God not changing, or his requirements from us not changing.

This world is so far out of line with what God intended for us that it could be in another universe entirely.

We were created to care for this earth and all that is on it, including one another, when have we ever done that, since Adam's fall?

Never as far as I can see.

We continue to rape the earth, destroy the environment, and mistreat animals as and when we see fit.

Why?

because that is what Satan has always intended to drive us to doing.

God thwarted his attempts when he confused the languages at Babel because he could see that man would progress to a point where he could achieve anything that came into his mind, and eh knew who was going to put it in our minds.

He also slowed our "progress" to the point we are now at by distracting Satan from spending too much time on us, letting him spend as much time in heaven taunting God and the faithful angles because that meant he was spending less time concentrating on us.

Prophecy tells us he was cast down to the vicinity of the earth just before 1914, and so now only has us to concentrate on, and lo and behold we "advance" amazingly quickly to the point where we have created more demands on this planet than it can hope to sustain for long.

Exactly what Satan wants us to do.

That is why, as he got John to foretell at Revelation 11:18, the time will soon come when Jehovah has to allow his son to bring Armageddon, and destroy all of Satan's works, all of his followers on the, including all those who don't realise they are actually following where Satan leads because they refused to listen to God's warnings and cleanse the earth of all of Satan's works.

It is happening, whether people choose to believe it or not.

Around the same time that Satan was \cast down, God also called a number of people who wanted to be faithful followers of his son, to his son's side and out of Apostate Christianity, in order to warn us all what is coming and show us the way out.

Are you going to listen and ive, or ignore it and die?
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3/26/2015 12:50:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 12:35:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Are you going to listen and ive, or ignore it and die?

First, I don't like people who threatening me, and I can listen, but to believe you need to prove with references and evidence, not only with a book.
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3/26/2015 1:11:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 12:50:37 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:35:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Are you going to listen and ive, or ignore it and die?

First, I don't like people who threatening me, and I can listen, but to believe you need to prove with references and evidence, not only with a book.

I am not threatening you, I am simply passing on what God has said.

From there on in the choice is yours.
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3/26/2015 1:12:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 1:04:34 PM, bulproof wrote:
Lessons on morality from a serial adulterer.
ROFLMAO

Ex serial adulterer, there's a massive difference.
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3/26/2015 1:18:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 1:11:54 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:50:37 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:35:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Are you going to listen and ive, or ignore it and die?

First, I don't like people who threatening me, and I can listen, but to believe you need to prove with references and evidence, not only with a book.

I am not threatening you, I am simply passing on what God has said.

Passing on threats means YOU are the one who is threatening.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/26/2015 1:26:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 1:19:18 PM, bulproof wrote:
It's like taking fashion tips from a hobo.
ROFLMAO

So that's where you get yours from, lol.
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3/26/2015 1:29:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 1:18:01 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:11:54 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:50:37 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:35:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Are you going to listen and ive, or ignore it and die?

First, I don't like people who threatening me, and I can listen, but to believe you need to prove with references and evidence, not only with a book.

I am not threatening you, I am simply passing on what God has said.

Passing on threats means YOU are the one who is threatening.

No, I am only the messenger, the message is not mine.

However the message also carries hope for those who chose to listen, should I claim credit for that also?

I don't think so.
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3/26/2015 3:07:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 1:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:18:01 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:11:54 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:50:37 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:35:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Are you going to listen and ive, or ignore it and die?

First, I don't like people who threatening me, and I can listen, but to believe you need to prove with references and evidence, not only with a book.

I am not threatening you, I am simply passing on what God has said.

Passing on threats means YOU are the one who is threatening.

No, I am only the messenger, the message is not mine.

No one wants to hear your messages of threats, thanks.

However the message also carries hope for those who chose to listen, should I claim credit for that also?

There is only morbid obsession in your words.

I don't think so.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/26/2015 4:19:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 3:07:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:18:01 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:11:54 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:50:37 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:35:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Are you going to listen and ive, or ignore it and die?

First, I don't like people who threatening me, and I can listen, but to believe you need to prove with references and evidence, not only with a book.

I am not threatening you, I am simply passing on what God has said.

Passing on threats means YOU are the one who is threatening.

No, I am only the messenger, the message is not mine.

No one wants to hear your messages of threats, thanks.

However the message also carries hope for those who chose to listen, should I claim credit for that also?

There is only morbid obsession in your words.

I don't think so.

Then you ain't listening, I offer the hope and the warning from God.

I've described the hope on here many times.

Like I have said to you before it is your choice if you benefit from the hope or suffer from the events you are being warned about.

What would be the point in the warning if there was no alternative?
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3/26/2015 4:59:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 4:19:13 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:07:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:18:01 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:11:54 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:50:37 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:35:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Are you going to listen and ive, or ignore it and die?

First, I don't like people who threatening me, and I can listen, but to believe you need to prove with references and evidence, not only with a book.

I am not threatening you, I am simply passing on what God has said.

Passing on threats means YOU are the one who is threatening.

No, I am only the messenger, the message is not mine.

No one wants to hear your messages of threats, thanks.

However the message also carries hope for those who chose to listen, should I claim credit for that also?

There is only morbid obsession in your words.

I don't think so.

Then you ain't listening, I offer the hope and the warning from God.

I've described the hope on here many times.

Like I have said to you before it is your choice if you benefit from the hope or suffer from the events you are being warned about.

What would be the point in the warning if there was no alternative?

Your childish fantasy is only in your empty head. Grow up and stop threatening people.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/26/2015 5:06:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 4:19:13 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:07:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:18:01 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:11:54 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:50:37 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:35:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Are you going to listen and ive, or ignore it and die?

First, I don't like people who threatening me, and I can listen, but to believe you need to prove with references and evidence, not only with a book.

I am not threatening you, I am simply passing on what God has said.

Passing on threats means YOU are the one who is threatening.

No, I am only the messenger, the message is not mine.

No one wants to hear your messages of threats, thanks.

However the message also carries hope for those who chose to listen, should I claim credit for that also?

There is only morbid obsession in your words.

I don't think so.

Then you ain't listening, I offer the hope and the warning from God.

I've described the hope on here many times.

Like I have said to you before it is your choice if you benefit from the hope or suffer from the events you are being warned about.

What would be the point in the warning if there was no alternative?

Your stupid threat has been pedaled by fools like you for thousands of years, where are they now mad?
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3/26/2015 6:13:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 4:59:20 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 4:19:13 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:07:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:18:01 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:11:54 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:50:37 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:35:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Are you going to listen and ive, or ignore it and die?

First, I don't like people who threatening me, and I can listen, but to believe you need to prove with references and evidence, not only with a book.

I am not threatening you, I am simply passing on what God has said.

Passing on threats means YOU are the one who is threatening.

No, I am only the messenger, the message is not mine.

No one wants to hear your messages of threats, thanks.

However the message also carries hope for those who chose to listen, should I claim credit for that also?

There is only morbid obsession in your words.

I don't think so.

Then you ain't listening, I offer the hope and the warning from God.

I've described the hope on here many times.

Like I have said to you before it is your choice if you benefit from the hope or suffer from the events you are being warned about.

What would be the point in the warning if there was no alternative?

Your childish fantasy is only in your empty head. Grow up and stop threatening people.

I threaten no-one, I merely put the alternatives for good or ill in front of people which God has commanded must be given to you all. That is what I do, that is what I will continue to do until God says enough.

If you don't like what I post, don;t read it, no-one is forcing anyone to read it.

If you are stupid enough to read and respond to something you aren't interested in, that's your problem not mine.
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3/26/2015 6:14:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 5:06:41 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/26/2015 4:19:13 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:07:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:18:01 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:11:54 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:50:37 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:35:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Are you going to listen and ive, or ignore it and die?

First, I don't like people who threatening me, and I can listen, but to believe you need to prove with references and evidence, not only with a book.

I am not threatening you, I am simply passing on what God has said.

Passing on threats means YOU are the one who is threatening.

No, I am only the messenger, the message is not mine.

No one wants to hear your messages of threats, thanks.

However the message also carries hope for those who chose to listen, should I claim credit for that also?

There is only morbid obsession in your words.

I don't think so.

Then you ain't listening, I offer the hope and the warning from God.

I've described the hope on here many times.

Like I have said to you before it is your choice if you benefit from the hope or suffer from the events you are being warned about.

What would be the point in the warning if there was no alternative?

Your stupid threat has been pedaled by fools like you for thousands of years, where are they now mad?

So?

You don;t have to read what teh options are.

Only an idiot reads what they aren't interested in.

Even I'm not that stupid, lol.
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3/26/2015 8:17:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 6:14:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 5:06:41 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/26/2015 4:19:13 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:07:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:18:01 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:11:54 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:50:37 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:35:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Are you going to listen and ive, or ignore it and die?

First, I don't like people who threatening me, and I can listen, but to believe you need to prove with references and evidence, not only with a book.

I am not threatening you, I am simply passing on what God has said.

Passing on threats means YOU are the one who is threatening.

No, I am only the messenger, the message is not mine.

No one wants to hear your messages of threats, thanks.

However the message also carries hope for those who chose to listen, should I claim credit for that also?

There is only morbid obsession in your words.

I don't think so.

Then you ain't listening, I offer the hope and the warning from God.

I've described the hope on here many times.

Like I have said to you before it is your choice if you benefit from the hope or suffer from the events you are being warned about.

What would be the point in the warning if there was no alternative?

Your stupid threat has been pedaled by fools like you for thousands of years, where are they now mad?

So?

You don;t have to read what teh options are.

Only an idiot reads what they aren't interested in.

Even I'm not that stupid, lol.

Same stupid message pedaled by idiots for thousands of years with the same predictable result, the pedaler dies and there ain't no armageddon.
It's gonna happen with you too stupid.
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3/27/2015 7:44:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 8:17:20 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:14:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 5:06:41 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/26/2015 4:19:13 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:07:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:18:01 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 1:11:54 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:50:37 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:35:20 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/26/2015 12:13:11 PM, Lupo wrote:
At 3/25/2015 12:14:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Are you going to listen and ive, or ignore it and die?

First, I don't like people who threatening me, and I can listen, but to believe you need to prove with references and evidence, not only with a book.

I am not threatening you, I am simply passing on what God has said.

Passing on threats means YOU are the one who is threatening.

No, I am only the messenger, the message is not mine.

No one wants to hear your messages of threats, thanks.

However the message also carries hope for those who chose to listen, should I claim credit for that also?

There is only morbid obsession in your words.

I don't think so.

Then you ain't listening, I offer the hope and the warning from God.

I've described the hope on here many times.

Like I have said to you before it is your choice if you benefit from the hope or suffer from the events you are being warned about.

What would be the point in the warning if there was no alternative?

Your stupid threat has been pedaled by fools like you for thousands of years, where are they now mad?

So?

You don;t have to read what teh options are.

Only an idiot reads what they aren't interested in.

Even I'm not that stupid, lol.

Same stupid message pedaled by idiots for thousands of years with the same predictable result, the pedaler dies and there ain't no armageddon.
It's gonna happen with you too stupid.

There will be, and the stupid ones are the ones who fail to listen to God.

You do realise that you are simply repeating what so many have said before, and fulfilling the same prophecy by doing so?

2 Peter 3:3-4
ASV(i) 3 knowing this first, that in the last days mockers shall come with mockery, walking after their own lusts, 4 and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

That's you and all those like you. Just as blind and stupid as Jesus and Peter said you would be, lo.

What does it feel like to know you are fulfilling prophecy, and thus proving yourself wrong every time you open you mouth, lol?
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3/27/2015 8:00:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Thousands of years of the idiots like you claiming the end and not one of them has survived their ridiculous predictions.

Just like you mad.

Insanity is not new and you have one of the oldest variants ever known.

"I'm not gonna die all of you are"
That is not a sane position to hold.
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3/27/2015 8:23:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 8:00:21 AM, bulproof wrote:
Thousands of years of the idiots like you claiming the end and not one of them has survived their ridiculous predictions.

Just like you mad.

Insanity is not new and you have one of the oldest variants ever known.

"I'm not gonna die all of you are"
That is not a sane position to hold.
Can you think of a better way for MCB to raise money for his future Asian family than preaching the damnation of those who don't donate to his charitable pleas? There is some method to his madness.