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Omnipotent gods don't really care about you

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3/25/2015 5:23:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
If they did, they would make you them so any desire of yours could be fulfilled as you saw fit.
You can call me Mark if you like.
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3/25/2015 5:24:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 5:23:32 PM, debate_power wrote:
If they did, they would make you them so any desire of yours could be fulfilled as you saw fit.

Or at least with as much power as them.
You can call me Mark if you like.
Mhykiel
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3/25/2015 6:41:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 5:23:32 PM, debate_power wrote:
If they did, they would make you them so any desire of yours could be fulfilled as you saw fit.

That makes no sense. Parents care for children, but its generally agreed a parent lets their kids do anything they want is a bad parent.

Why would you think this is rational? Becuase athiesm is a mental poison
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3/25/2015 7:50:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 5:23:32 PM, debate_power wrote:
If they did, they would make you them so any desire of yours could be fulfilled as you saw fit.

Is that how you would describe "caring" about someone lol?

Rather look at all the things God has provided.....
Look at all the desires you do get to fulfill...

You get your own "kingdom", produce your own little offspring. You get to create and be whatever you wish, learn, love, share, sacrifice and all the things you get to partake in as an individual including your interests and abilities. What would satisfy your desires how you would see fit??

Or do you mean you would like something more like a Genie?
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3/25/2015 8:03:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 5:23:32 PM, debate_power wrote:
If they did, they would make you them so any desire of yours could be fulfilled as you saw fit.

Worse, they define 'good' whimsically, largely in terms of whatever's good for the theocracies of the day, and without regard for foreseeable impacts on species, or for the suffering and intergenerational misery caused by their narcissism and neglect.

Boo for transcendental deities! Let's ignore and scorn them as much as they ignore and scorn us! If they think it's okay to operate cruelly and neglectfully under guise of 'mysterious ways', let's operate entirely to our own species benefit and show how little we need their haphazard, inconsistent, slavishly theocratic edicts!
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3/25/2015 8:12:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Why are you atheists here? This is where religious people discuss God and their religions yet you atheists stalk us and tell us theism is ridiculous yet here you all are, everyday, posting on theists forums. If you really believed in your atheism you wouldn't be posting on theists forums which is what agnostics do and don't make fools of themselves trying to proselytize atheist religion to theists.
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3/25/2015 8:35:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 5:23:32 PM, debate_power wrote:
If they did, they would make you them so any desire of yours could be fulfilled as you saw fit.

This doesn't make any sense.
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3/25/2015 8:41:14 PM
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At 3/25/2015 5:23:32 PM, debate_power wrote:
If they did, they would make you them so any desire of yours could be fulfilled as you saw fit.

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3/25/2015 10:58:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 5:23:32 PM, debate_power wrote:
If they did, they would make you them so any desire of yours could be fulfilled as you saw fit.

"any desire" runs into problems.

But an all powerful God could create a better world for the well being of conscious creatures.

Till then, enjoy your baby cancer. Praise the Lord !!!
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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3/25/2015 11:01:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 8:12:37 PM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
Why are you atheists here? This is where religious people discuss God and their religions yet you atheists stalk us and tell us theism is ridiculous yet here you all are, everyday, posting on theists forums. If you really believed in your atheism you wouldn't be posting on theists forums which is what agnostics do and don't make fools of themselves trying to proselytize atheist religion to theists.

Frightens ya.
Don't it.
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3/25/2015 11:10:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 8:12:37 PM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
Why are you atheists here? This is where religious people discuss God and their religions yet you atheists stalk us and tell us theism is ridiculous yet here you all are, everyday, posting on theists forums. If you really believed in your atheism you wouldn't be posting on theists forums which is what agnostics do and don't make fools of themselves trying to proselytize atheist religion to theists.

I know right, how dare they put your religious beliefs under scrutiny.

Remember back in the old days where some one spoke up against the prevailing religious belief and we just killed them in a brutal manner ?

Now thanks to the enlightenment, these aholes think they can come in and just argue against any and all religious belief.

My religious belief should be protected from such things, I am being persecuted............just like the nazi's did to jews..................seems like a fair comparison.
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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3/31/2015 10:11:39 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 6:41:50 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 3/25/2015 5:23:32 PM, debate_power wrote:
If they did, they would make you them so any desire of yours could be fulfilled as you saw fit.

That makes no sense. Parents care for children, but its generally agreed a parent lets their kids do anything they want is a bad parent.

Why would you think this is rational? Becuase athiesm is a mental poison

It's rational because all individuals are innately self-serving. Would allowing another person to fulfill all of their desires not be doing them the greatest service?
You can call me Mark if you like.
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3/31/2015 10:14:09 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/31/2015 10:11:39 AM, debate_power wrote:
At 3/25/2015 6:41:50 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 3/25/2015 5:23:32 PM, debate_power wrote:
If they did, they would make you them so any desire of yours could be fulfilled as you saw fit.

That makes no sense. Parents care for children, but its generally agreed a parent lets their kids do anything they want is a bad parent.

Why would you think this is rational? Becuase athiesm is a mental poison

It's rational because all individuals are innately self-serving. Would allowing another person to fulfill all of their desires not be doing them the greatest service?

God doesn't allow you that power because obviously he cares about himself more.
You can call me Mark if you like.
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3/31/2015 10:17:20 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 8:12:37 PM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
Why are you atheists here? This is where religious people discuss God and their religions yet you atheists stalk us and tell us theism is ridiculous yet here you all are, everyday, posting on theists forums. If you really believed in your atheism you wouldn't be posting on theists forums which is what agnostics do and don't make fools of themselves trying to proselytize atheist religion to theists.

This is the religion forum and is not reserved for theists alone.

I really believe that atheism is the correct position to take on religion, and that's why I'm here. I want to spread it, obviously, just as you wish to propagate your theism (unless you don't want to?),
You can call me Mark if you like.
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3/31/2015 11:57:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/31/2015 10:11:39 AM, debate_power wrote:
At 3/25/2015 6:41:50 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 3/25/2015 5:23:32 PM, debate_power wrote:
If they did, they would make you them so any desire of yours could be fulfilled as you saw fit.

That makes no sense. Parents care for children, but its generally agreed a parent lets their kids do anything they want is a bad parent.

Why would you think this is rational? Becuase athiesm is a mental poison

It's rational because all individuals are innately self-serving. Would allowing another person to fulfill all of their desires not be doing them the greatest service?

No becuase all desires are beneficial
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3/31/2015 5:40:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/31/2015 10:11:39 AM, debate_power wrote:
At 3/25/2015 6:41:50 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 3/25/2015 5:23:32 PM, debate_power wrote:
If they did, they would make you them so any desire of yours could be fulfilled as you saw fit.

That makes no sense. Parents care for children, but its generally agreed a parent lets their kids do anything they want is a bad parent.

Why would you think this is rational? Becuase athiesm is a mental poison

It's rational because all individuals are innately self-serving. Would allowing another person to fulfill all of their desires not be doing them the greatest service?

I mean to say that is completely wrong. How can it be of the greatest service to let a person fulfill all of their desires?

i call horse shat
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3/31/2015 5:47:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/25/2015 6:41:50 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 3/25/2015 5:23:32 PM, debate_power wrote:
If they did, they would make you them so any desire of yours could be fulfilled as you saw fit.

That makes no sense. Parents care for children, but its generally agreed a parent lets their kids do anything they want is a bad parent.

Why would you think this is rational? Becuase athiesm is a mental poison

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