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DanneJeRusse
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3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/26/2015 3:57:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

Nah. Nothing like that is going to happen anytime soon.

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali
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3/26/2015 5:08:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
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3/26/2015 5:57:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 3:57:22 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

Nah. Nothing like that is going to happen anytime soon.

So, ISIS is just a figment of our imagination?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/26/2015 5:59:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 5:57:44 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:57:22 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

Nah. Nothing like that is going to happen anytime soon.

So, ISIS is just a figment of our imagination?

ISIL is just another terrorist group, albeit a more successful one. The world community won't allow them to succeed.

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali
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3/26/2015 6:03:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 5:59:07 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/26/2015 5:57:44 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:57:22 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

Nah. Nothing like that is going to happen anytime soon.

So, ISIS is just a figment of our imagination?

ISIL is just another terrorist group, albeit a more successful one. The world community won't allow them to succeed.

So, you're saying the rest of the world will step in and put a stop to Islamic civil war?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/26/2015 6:06:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 6:03:02 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 5:59:07 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/26/2015 5:57:44 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:57:22 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

Nah. Nothing like that is going to happen anytime soon.

So, ISIS is just a figment of our imagination?

ISIL is just another terrorist group, albeit a more successful one. The world community won't allow them to succeed.

So, you're saying the rest of the world will step in and put a stop to Islamic civil war?

If there's an Islamic civil war, ISIL won't be the cause.

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali
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3/26/2015 6:24:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Ayaan Hirsi Ali in my humble opinion is stupid why? for many reasons. she thinks her views about anything should impose on Islam. what is right for her is its her own decision. for example she wants to change the Quranic way of dealing with gays. first its a sin to have a sex between 2 men. period. what is her problem with that? i have a problem that she is going and drinking alcohol but who am i to impose my views on a person who doesnt believe in my belief? your "culture" is not the same of muslim "culture", just think if i go to criticize non muslims drinking alcohol. you know how stupid thats sounds?

and if she really said "Islam is responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today," she is totally stupid no room left.
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3/26/2015 6:28:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
and no we wont change the Quran as she wants to be, we are not hypocrites changing the Word of God if other dont like it, if she has a problem with that she can jump off a building.
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3/26/2015 6:39:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 6:24:32 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Ayaan Hirsi Ali in my humble opinion is stupid why? for many reasons. she thinks her views about anything should impose on Islam. what is right for her is its her own decision. for example she wants to change the Quranic way of dealing with gays. first its a sin to have a sex between 2 men. period. what is her problem with that? i have a problem that she is going and drinking alcohol but who am i to impose my views on a person who doesnt believe in my belief? your "culture" is not the same of muslim "culture", just think if i go to criticize non muslims drinking alcohol. you know how stupid thats sounds?

and if she really said "Islam is responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today," she is totally stupid no room left.

Ah yes, you must be one of the Muslims who wishes to remain in the seventh century, part of the problem, not the solution.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/26/2015 6:53:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 6:39:33 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:24:32 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Ayaan Hirsi Ali in my humble opinion is stupid why? for many reasons. she thinks her views about anything should impose on Islam. what is right for her is its her own decision. for example she wants to change the Quranic way of dealing with gays. first its a sin to have a sex between 2 men. period. what is her problem with that? i have a problem that she is going and drinking alcohol but who am i to impose my views on a person who doesnt believe in my belief? your "culture" is not the same of muslim "culture", just think if i go to criticize non muslims drinking alcohol. you know how stupid thats sounds?

and if she really said "Islam is responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today," she is totally stupid no room left.

Ah yes, you must be one of the Muslims who wishes to remain in the seventh century, part of the problem, not the solution.

so that is your rebuttal?
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3/26/2015 6:57:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 6:53:30 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:39:33 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:24:32 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Ayaan Hirsi Ali in my humble opinion is stupid why? for many reasons. she thinks her views about anything should impose on Islam. what is right for her is its her own decision. for example she wants to change the Quranic way of dealing with gays. first its a sin to have a sex between 2 men. period. what is her problem with that? i have a problem that she is going and drinking alcohol but who am i to impose my views on a person who doesnt believe in my belief? your "culture" is not the same of muslim "culture", just think if i go to criticize non muslims drinking alcohol. you know how stupid thats sounds?

and if she really said "Islam is responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today," she is totally stupid no room left.

Ah yes, you must be one of the Muslims who wishes to remain in the seventh century, part of the problem, not the solution.

so that is your rebuttal?

Your post was a rant, no rebuttal required.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/26/2015 7:00:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

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3/26/2015 7:02:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 6:57:06 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:53:30 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:39:33 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:24:32 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Ayaan Hirsi Ali in my humble opinion is stupid why? for many reasons. she thinks her views about anything should impose on Islam. what is right for her is its her own decision. for example she wants to change the Quranic way of dealing with gays. first its a sin to have a sex between 2 men. period. what is her problem with that? i have a problem that she is going and drinking alcohol but who am i to impose my views on a person who doesnt believe in my belief? your "culture" is not the same of muslim "culture", just think if i go to criticize non muslims drinking alcohol. you know how stupid thats sounds?

and if she really said "Islam is responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today," she is totally stupid no room left.

Ah yes, you must be one of the Muslims who wishes to remain in the seventh century, part of the problem, not the solution.

so that is your rebuttal?

Your post was a rant, no rebuttal required.

so you cant answer you have to write nonsense...say what Ayaan Hirsi thinks and run away... good job the job is done now you can reply people with stupid nonsensical response.
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3/26/2015 7:13:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 7:02:25 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:57:06 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:53:30 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:39:33 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:24:32 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Ayaan Hirsi Ali in my humble opinion is stupid why? for many reasons. she thinks her views about anything should impose on Islam. what is right for her is its her own decision. for example she wants to change the Quranic way of dealing with gays. first its a sin to have a sex between 2 men. period. what is her problem with that? i have a problem that she is going and drinking alcohol but who am i to impose my views on a person who doesnt believe in my belief? your "culture" is not the same of muslim "culture", just think if i go to criticize non muslims drinking alcohol. you know how stupid thats sounds?

and if she really said "Islam is responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today," she is totally stupid no room left.

Ah yes, you must be one of the Muslims who wishes to remain in the seventh century, part of the problem, not the solution.

so that is your rebuttal?

Your post was a rant, no rebuttal required.

so you cant answer you have to write nonsense...say what Ayaan Hirsi thinks and run away... good job the job is done now you can reply people with stupid nonsensical response.

Not sure why you wish to continue to rant, don't you have anything of value to say?
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/26/2015 7:16:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

- Wat!! She is not even Muslim! What are you talking about.
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3/26/2015 7:17:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 7:13:15 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 7:02:25 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:57:06 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:53:30 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:39:33 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:24:32 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Ayaan Hirsi Ali in my humble opinion is stupid why? for many reasons. she thinks her views about anything should impose on Islam. what is right for her is its her own decision. for example she wants to change the Quranic way of dealing with gays. first its a sin to have a sex between 2 men. period. what is her problem with that? i have a problem that she is going and drinking alcohol but who am i to impose my views on a person who doesnt believe in my belief? your "culture" is not the same of muslim "culture", just think if i go to criticize non muslims drinking alcohol. you know how stupid thats sounds?

and if she really said "Islam is responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today," she is totally stupid no room left.

Ah yes, you must be one of the Muslims who wishes to remain in the seventh century, part of the problem, not the solution.

so that is your rebuttal?

Your post was a rant, no rebuttal required.

so you cant answer you have to write nonsense...say what Ayaan Hirsi thinks and run away... good job the job is done now you can reply people with stupid nonsensical response.

Not sure why you wish to continue to rant, don't you have anything of value to say?

yep i dont have anything of value to say... im done here lol now blaming me for his stupidity..
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3/26/2015 7:22:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 7:17:26 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 7:13:15 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 7:02:25 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:57:06 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:53:30 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:39:33 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 6:24:32 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Ayaan Hirsi Ali in my humble opinion is stupid why? for many reasons. she thinks her views about anything should impose on Islam. what is right for her is its her own decision. for example she wants to change the Quranic way of dealing with gays. first its a sin to have a sex between 2 men. period. what is her problem with that? i have a problem that she is going and drinking alcohol but who am i to impose my views on a person who doesnt believe in my belief? your "culture" is not the same of muslim "culture", just think if i go to criticize non muslims drinking alcohol. you know how stupid thats sounds?

and if she really said "Islam is responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today," she is totally stupid no room left.

Ah yes, you must be one of the Muslims who wishes to remain in the seventh century, part of the problem, not the solution.

so that is your rebuttal?

Your post was a rant, no rebuttal required.

so you cant answer you have to write nonsense...say what Ayaan Hirsi thinks and run away... good job the job is done now you can reply people with stupid nonsensical response.

Not sure why you wish to continue to rant, don't you have anything of value to say?

yep i dont have anything of value to say... im done here lol now blaming me for his stupidity..

Okay, say hello to the Bronze Age, send a postcard, maybe...
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/26/2015 10:34:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali : :

Muslims haven't learned the fine art of stealing land and materials to build their false gods with like the Christians have. It took Christians quite awhile to look like decent worldly citizens after killing many natives as they were stealing their land and materials to build their false gods. Now Christians use their governments and corporations to do their dirty work.
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3/26/2015 11:05:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 10:34:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali : :

Muslims haven't learned the fine art of stealing land and materials to build their false gods with like the Christians have. It took Christians quite awhile to look like decent worldly citizens after killing many natives as they were stealing their land and materials to build their false gods. Now Christians use their governments and corporations to do their dirty work.

Start another thread if you want to talk about that.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/26/2015 11:24:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 11:05:55 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 10:34:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali : :

Muslims haven't learned the fine art of stealing land and materials to build their false gods with like the Christians have. It took Christians quite awhile to look like decent worldly citizens after killing many natives as they were stealing their land and materials to build their false gods. Now Christians use their governments and corporations to do their dirty work.

Start another thread if you want to talk about that. : :

What I shared in this thread works with the knowledge you shared in it.
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3/28/2015 8:30:18 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 11:24:53 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/26/2015 11:05:55 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/26/2015 10:34:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali : :

Muslims haven't learned the fine art of stealing land and materials to build their false gods with like the Christians have. It took Christians quite awhile to look like decent worldly citizens after killing many natives as they were stealing their land and materials to build their false gods. Now Christians use their governments and corporations to do their dirty work.

Start another thread if you want to talk about that. : :

What I shared in this thread works with the knowledge you shared in it.

No, it does not. Stop derailing threads with your insanity.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/28/2015 9:02:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 7:16:51 PM, Yassine wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

- Wat!! She is not even Muslim! What are you talking about.

You must watch her on news she want to change the Quran like the Bible becuase she doesnt like it... but she is not a muslim lol how stupid that it...
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3/28/2015 9:32:19 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 9:02:44 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 7:16:51 PM, Yassine wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

- Wat!! She is not even Muslim! What are you talking about.

You must watch her on news she want to change the Quran like the Bible becuase she doesnt like it... but she is not a muslim lol how stupid that it...

Yes, she is a Muslim. She was raised as a Muslim and lived in Islamic society.

Of course, she doesn't like the Quran, it teaches people to treat her like furniture. She obviously has brain to think, unlike yourself.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/28/2015 11:06:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 9:32:19 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/28/2015 9:02:44 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 7:16:51 PM, Yassine wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

- Wat!! She is not even Muslim! What are you talking about.

You must watch her on news she want to change the Quran like the Bible becuase she doesnt like it... but she is not a muslim lol how stupid that it...

Yes, she is a Muslim.

No she is not.

She was raised as a Muslim and lived in Islamic society.

im sure you dont know where she was raised and how, please explain how they treated her according to Islam before searching on Google.


Of course, she doesn't like the Quran

i dont like her too.

it teaches people to treat her like furniture.

which things in the Quran you talking about? dont talk with general terms please.

She obviously has brain to think, unlike yourself.

she has a brain to be an athiesnt where there are no morals but everybody have their beliefs in their perception,views and by their desires. that is so great... i dont call you guys selfish people but reality is...
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3/28/2015 11:23:05 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 11:06:00 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 9:32:19 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/28/2015 9:02:44 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 3/26/2015 7:16:51 PM, Yassine wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

- Wat!! She is not even Muslim! What are you talking about.

You must watch her on news she want to change the Quran like the Bible becuase she doesnt like it... but she is not a muslim lol how stupid that it...

Yes, she is a Muslim.

No she is not.

LOL. Hilarious, you simply deny stuff just like the other Muslim apologetics. You guys are dinosaurs, soon to be extinct.

She was raised as a Muslim and lived in Islamic society.

im sure you dont know where she was raised and how, please explain how they treated her according to Islam before searching on Google.

I watched interviews with her, several of them, where she talked about her life.


Of course, she doesn't like the Quran

i dont like her too.

Of course, you don't, that would mean giving up your misogynistic worldview to, of all things, a woman. LOL.

it teaches people to treat her like furniture.

which things in the Quran you talking about? dont talk with general terms please.

She obviously has brain to think, unlike yourself.

she has a brain to be an athiesnt where there are no morals but everybody have their beliefs in their perception,views and by their desires. that is so great... i dont call you guys selfish people but reality is...

LOL. No, she is not an atheist, bonehead.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/28/2015 11:35:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Technically she's an ex muslim.
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3/28/2015 11:54:01 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 11:35:29 AM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 3/26/2015 3:56:04 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
This the title of the recently released book by, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim who states emphatically that Islam needs serious and immediate reform. Many Muslims who currently fear for their lives are trying to make changes from within, but Muslims who still want to live in the seventh century are not going to let that happen anytime soon.

The Islamic Civil War is about to get real. Are we in for another 100 year battle just like when Christianity underwent it's reformation? Should we just stand back and let them go at it? Or, should the rest of the world step in and put a stop to it?

"I say it's not a religion of peace now because if as a religion you're responsible for 70 percent of all of the bloodshed in the world today, then you possibly cannot be a religion of peace. But it could become a religion of peace if we make some changes, and I'm proposing only five." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Technically she's an ex muslim.

True, she renounced Islam a while back. But, since she was raised a Muslim, she has every right to want to see reform. I would suspect that if those reforms came about in her lifetime, she would be only to happy to renounce her renouncement.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth