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3/27/2015 10:10:29 AM
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On this forum there are some extreme theists who clearly have mental health issues, if the garbage they come out with is an indication of the functioning of their minds.

As a lot of what is claimed for Jesus is much less than credible, and some of his quoted utterances are pretty strange to say the least, maybe his opinion of himself as divine was conjured up by an unsound mind?
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3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!
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3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?
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3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently! But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!
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3/27/2015 12:26:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently! But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!

Hitler was doing fine until he started hating everyone equally.
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3/27/2015 12:49:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:

What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently! But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!

If you think Hitler was a Christian then your definition of Christian is gibberish. And as such, your opinion can be dismissed as the rantings of an ignorant. There is no reason for you to call Hitler an evil piece of scum. His belief system was very much like yours.

The word "Christian" means something. Words in general, mean something. This is why men cannot simply call themselves women, and democrats aren't republicans, and atheists aren't called Christian.

If your argument requires words to be stripped of meaning, it becomes impotent against Christianity.
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3/27/2015 1:14:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 10:10:29 AM, JJ50 wrote:
On this forum there are some extreme theists who clearly have mental health issues, if the garbage they come out with is an indication of the functioning of their minds.

As a lot of what is claimed for Jesus is much less than credible, and some of his quoted utterances are pretty strange to say the least, maybe his opinion of himself as divine was conjured up by an unsound mind?

It's often been said:

If Jesus says hes the Son of God and is in fact the Son of God you better listen but if He says He's the Son of God and isn't all he was, was crazy.
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3/27/2015 1:43:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 12:49:04 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:

What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently! But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!

If you think Hitler was a Christian then your definition of Christian is gibberish. And as such, your opinion can be dismissed as the rantings of an ignorant. There is no reason for you to call Hitler an evil piece of scum. His belief system was very much like yours.

The word "Christian" means something. Words in general, mean something. This is why men cannot simply call themselves women, and democrats aren't republicans, and atheists aren't called Christian.

If your argument requires words to be stripped of meaning, it becomes impotent against Christianity.

Christianity encompasses so many dogmas, doctrines, cults and sects. There is no such thing as a 'real/true' Christian.
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3/27/2015 1:53:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 1:43:33 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 12:49:04 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:

What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently! But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!

If you think Hitler was a Christian then your definition of Christian is gibberish. And as such, your opinion can be dismissed as the rantings of an ignorant. There is no reason for you to call Hitler an evil piece of scum. His belief system was very much like yours.

The word "Christian" means something. Words in general, mean something. This is why men cannot simply call themselves women, and democrats aren't republicans, and atheists aren't called Christian.

If your argument requires words to be stripped of meaning, it becomes impotent against Christianity.

Christianity encompasses so many dogmas, doctrines, cults and sects. There is no such thing as a 'real/true' Christian.

Yet the word does have a definite meaning, and the Bible remains one Book.

As I said, if your argument requires the key words it uses to have no coherent meaning, it cannot damage Christianity in any way. It is impotent.
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3/27/2015 1:59:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 1:14:01 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:10:29 AM, JJ50 wrote:
On this forum there are some extreme theists who clearly have mental health issues, if the garbage they come out with is an indication of the functioning of their minds.

As a lot of what is claimed for Jesus is much less than credible, and some of his quoted utterances are pretty strange to say the least, maybe his opinion of himself as divine was conjured up by an unsound mind?

It's often been said:

If Jesus says hes the Son of God and is in fact the Son of God you better listen but if He says He's the Son of God and isn't all he was, was crazy.

Technically he said he was the son of man, never the son of god.
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3/27/2015 2:00:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 1:43:33 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 12:49:04 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:

What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently! But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!

If you think Hitler was a Christian then your definition of Christian is gibberish. And as such, your opinion can be dismissed as the rantings of an ignorant. There is no reason for you to call Hitler an evil piece of scum. His belief system was very much like yours.

The word "Christian" means something. Words in general, mean something. This is why men cannot simply call themselves women, and democrats aren't republicans, and atheists aren't called Christian.

If your argument requires words to be stripped of meaning, it becomes impotent against Christianity.

Christianity encompasses so many dogmas, doctrines, cults and sects. There is no such thing as a 'real/true' Christian.

Yes, there is.
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3/27/2015 2:52:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 12:49:04 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:

What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently! But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!

If you think Hitler was a Christian then your definition of Christian is gibberish. And as such, your opinion can be dismissed as the rantings of an ignorant. There is no reason for you to call Hitler an evil piece of scum. His belief system was very much like yours.

The word "Christian" means something. Words in general, mean something. This is why men cannot simply call themselves women, and democrats aren't republicans, and atheists aren't called Christian.

If your argument requires words to be stripped of meaning, it becomes impotent against Christianity.

No true scotsman fallacy
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3/27/2015 3:18:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 2:52:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 12:49:04 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:

What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently! But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!

If you think Hitler was a Christian then your definition of Christian is gibberish. And as such, your opinion can be dismissed as the rantings of an ignorant. There is no reason for you to call Hitler an evil piece of scum. His belief system was very much like yours.

The word "Christian" means something. Words in general, mean something. This is why men cannot simply call themselves women, and democrats aren't republicans, and atheists aren't called Christian.

If your argument requires words to be stripped of meaning, it becomes impotent against Christianity.

No true scotsman fallacy

Sigh. Another student of pop logic. The word "Christian" has meaning, as such, it cannot be used to cover everything. That is why it doesn't apply to you, an atheist.

And once again, the "No true Scotsman fallacy refers to a particular logical fallacy which tries to reduce the totally of a thing to a single quality it has. Not every case of someone calling something false is automatically the NTS fallacy. If I say that a dolphin is not a true fish, that is NOT an example of the NTS fallacy. If someone consistently behaves in ways diametrically opposed to the definition of the word, the meaning of the word cannot apply to him.

I know the dim and the lazy will just throw out the bald claim, "so and so fallacy", But please people, if you don't really know what you're talking about. Read up on it. The net is free.

There is even one doofus who repeatedly posts, "Your fallacy of choice is...." And he thinks he's a genius.

The word "Christian" has meaning. If your argument needs us to pretend it doesn't, your argument is toothless.

Now, quit gumming me. That tickles.
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3/27/2015 3:51:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 10:10:29 AM, JJ50 wrote:
On this forum there are some extreme theists who clearly have mental health issues, if the garbage they come out with is an indication of the functioning of their minds.

As a lot of what is claimed for Jesus is much less than credible, and some of his quoted utterances are pretty strange to say the least, maybe his opinion of himself as divine was conjured up by an unsound mind?

No-one who trusts in Jehovah as he did is in the least mentally unsound, exactly the opposite in act.

His opinion of himself was absolutely correct. He was indeed the Son of God.
Everything Jesus did, Christ will do again in much greater ways after Armageddon.

If anyone's minds are unbalanced it is those who have allowed Satan to cause such imbalance.
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3/27/2015 4:03:32 PM
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At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

I think it's fairly easy to make a case that atheists are narcissistic half-wits who do not know they are mentally disabled and think left-brain hemisphere dominancy that obliterates right-brain spiritual sensitivity is "normal", i.e. atheists are patently irrational as their ideas are found in only 5% of the population meaning 95% don't agree with them and yet they think they are thinking "normally" and theists are crazies. Without spiritual consciousness atheists are lost at sea when they attack like moths to the flame the very thing they like in real normal human consciousness that includes the ability to mentally "feel" spiritual events. It's very much like atheists are deaf to music and wonder why everyone's going gah gah over what sounds like noise to them.

But atheists egos are among the biggest in the world and they won't ever admit they are actually mentally retarded in the spiritual consciousness area normal for the vast majority of humankind.
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3/27/2015 4:04:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently!

So a blatantly antitheist regime is Christian due to a few comments made to an uneducated, largely Christian crowd?

But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!

So it's evil to destroy that which you have created?
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3/27/2015 4:05:05 PM
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At 3/27/2015 4:04:12 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently!

So a blatantly antitheist regime is Christian due to a few comments made to an uneducated, largely Christian crowd?

But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!

So it's evil to destroy that which you have created?

Dang, the text made it look like I made that Hitler-God comparison.
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3/27/2015 4:10:24 PM
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Has anyone ever told you atheists that spiritual consciousness is very much like that electric charge that courses through your body when you hear really good music. It can be a very physical sensation in spiritual contact. I've been forced to my knees by the power of these spiritual contact events, with my body quivering with spiritual energy. Quakers and Shakers were named for this phenomena. And of course these spiritual events of such power leave behind revelation and visions, enough in my experiences to fill two or three books or start two or three new religions-- if God wanted any more of such things that become enemies of God consciousness so easily in the hands of priesthoods making their living off of other people's religious visions.
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3/27/2015 4:10:51 PM
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At 3/27/2015 4:03:32 PM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

I think it's fairly easy to make a case that atheists are narcissistic half-wits who do not know they are mentally disabled and think left-brain hemisphere dominancy that obliterates right-brain spiritual sensitivity is "normal", i.e. atheists are patently irrational as their ideas are found in only 5% of the population meaning 95% don't agree with them and yet they think they are thinking "normally" and theists are crazies. Without spiritual consciousness atheists are lost at sea when they attack like moths to the flame the very thing they like in real normal human consciousness that includes the ability to mentally "feel" spiritual events. It's very much like atheists are deaf to music and wonder why everyone's going gah gah over what sounds like noise to them.

But atheists egos are among the biggest in the world and they won't ever admit they are actually mentally retarded in the spiritual consciousness area normal for the vast majority of humankind.

The entire population once believed the world was flat. They were wrong. A lot of people believing a wrong idea doesn't make it right, it just makes it popular.
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3/27/2015 4:14:02 PM
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At 3/27/2015 4:10:51 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 3/27/2015 4:03:32 PM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

I think it's fairly easy to make a case that atheists are narcissistic half-wits who do not know they are mentally disabled and think left-brain hemisphere dominancy that obliterates right-brain spiritual sensitivity is "normal", i.e. atheists are patently irrational as their ideas are found in only 5% of the population meaning 95% don't agree with them and yet they think they are thinking "normally" and theists are crazies. Without spiritual consciousness atheists are lost at sea when they attack like moths to the flame the very thing they like in real normal human consciousness that includes the ability to mentally "feel" spiritual events. It's very much like atheists are deaf to music and wonder why everyone's going gah gah over what sounds like noise to them.

But atheists egos are among the biggest in the world and they won't ever admit they are actually mentally retarded in the spiritual consciousness area normal for the vast majority of humankind.

The entire population once believed the world was flat. They were wrong. A lot of people believing a wrong idea doesn't make it right, it just makes it popular.

Yup, and that is very true of atheism. It is popular, but it is wrong.

Unfortunately that also applies to Islam, Apostate Christianity, and all the other "ear tickling" beliefs.

The true faith stands alone.
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3/27/2015 4:15:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 1:43:33 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 12:49:04 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:

What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently! But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!

If you think Hitler was a Christian then your definition of Christian is gibberish. And as such, your opinion can be dismissed as the rantings of an ignorant. There is no reason for you to call Hitler an evil piece of scum. His belief system was very much like yours.

The word "Christian" means something. Words in general, mean something. This is why men cannot simply call themselves women, and democrats aren't republicans, and atheists aren't called Christian.

If your argument requires words to be stripped of meaning, it becomes impotent against Christianity.

Christianity encompasses so many dogmas, doctrines, cults and sects. There is no such thing as a 'real/true' Christian.

No, but there are true followers of Christ, and true worshippers of the God that he and the Apostles worship.
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3/27/2015 4:17:53 PM
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Lunatic atheists attacking a fictitious character in a Story are typical of atheist irrationality. But they do this because attacking fundamentalist Abrahamic beliefs of Judaism, Pauline Christianity, and Muhammadism, is easy to do. Atheists do not seem to know any history of Christianity as they forget the Gnostic Christian movement paralleling Pauline Christianity from the very beginning. Gnostic Christianity isn't Bible centered and so atheists can't get a handle on Gnosis to attack it so like intellectual cowards that atheists are, they attack the easy fundamentalist Pauline Christian beliefs that never did make any rational sense as its a belief system held by pure emotional belief and not intellectual reasoning. You are to join a Club of fellow believers and that's supposed to be enough for Pauline Christians, that you are a Member of the Group Mind that has swallowed up your own independent mind to fill it with ancient dead men's ideas.
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3/27/2015 4:22:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently! But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!

He claimed to be Christian, but he certainly did not follow Christ or Christ's teachings, and persecuted those that did as well as throwing them into concentration camps.

http://www.ushmm.org...

Persecuted because like their Leader and King they would not involve themselves in the politics of this world. Of those who were caught serving their God and his son, the Christ, some were beheaded, all were starved and tortured.

And despite all that they were made to suffer,more came out of the camps than went in. Even under those circumstances some joined them and turned to following Christ.
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3/27/2015 4:35:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/27/2015 12:49:04 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:

What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently! But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!

If you think Hitler was a Christian then your definition of Christian is gibberish. And as such, your opinion can be dismissed as the rantings of an ignorant. There is no reason for you to call Hitler an evil piece of scum. His belief system was very much like yours.

The word "Christian" means something. Words in general, mean something. This is why men cannot simply call themselves women, and democrats aren't republicans, and atheists aren't called Christian.

If your argument requires words to be stripped of meaning, it becomes impotent against Christianity.

The word "Christian" should men something, but for 1900 years it has meant lies and distortions, complete Apostasy from the truth, since the end of the 1st century.

It is interesting to note, as I fund when I was forced to research it, that teh Apostles never acknowledged the name, and never used it, nor taught theri followers to do so. In fact Peter even had to tell Christ's followers not to eb ashamed of being seen as Christian.

Why?

Because in fact the name Christian takes Glory away from the "God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ", to whom we owe everything, including the salvation he has wrought for us through his son.

"Christian" was obviously a name tainted from it inception, and only get 3 mentions in scripture.

One when it is mentioned as first being used in Antioch.

One when it is used in derogatory terms by an opposer.

And finally when Peter had to urge the Brothers not to be ashamed to suffer as Christians, but to glorify God (Jehovah) under that name also.

That is something I only learned in the last month or so, and probably would still be ignorant of the truth about it had I not been forced to examine it closely.

Acts 11:26
ASV(i) 26 and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that even for a whole year they were gathered together with the church, and taught much people; and that the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Acts 26:28
ASV(i) 28 And Agrippa said unto Paul, With but little persuasion thou wouldest fain make me a Christian.

1 Peter 4:15-16
ASV(i) 15 For let none of you suffer as a murderer, or a thief, or an evil-doer, or as a meddler in other mens matters: 16 but if a man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God in this name.

Those are the only mentions the name gets.
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3/27/2015 4:42:05 PM
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At 3/27/2015 4:14:02 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/27/2015 4:10:51 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 3/27/2015 4:03:32 PM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

I think it's fairly easy to make a case that atheists are narcissistic half-wits who do not know they are mentally disabled and think left-brain hemisphere dominancy that obliterates right-brain spiritual sensitivity is "normal", i.e. atheists are patently irrational as their ideas are found in only 5% of the population meaning 95% don't agree with them and yet they think they are thinking "normally" and theists are crazies. Without spiritual consciousness atheists are lost at sea when they attack like moths to the flame the very thing they like in real normal human consciousness that includes the ability to mentally "feel" spiritual events. It's very much like atheists are deaf to music and wonder why everyone's going gah gah over what sounds like noise to them.

But atheists egos are among the biggest in the world and they won't ever admit they are actually mentally retarded in the spiritual consciousness area normal for the vast majority of humankind.

The entire population once believed the world was flat. They were wrong. A lot of people believing a wrong idea doesn't make it right, it just makes it popular.

Yup, and that is very true of atheism. It is popular, but it is wrong.

Unfortunately that also applies to Islam, Apostate Christianity, and all the other "ear tickling" beliefs.

The true faith stands alone.

Atheists are in the vast minority so you really need to check facts before making assertions.

And what you have is a book written by men and interpreted for the benefit of men. Your faith is no better or worse than any other.
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3/27/2015 6:36:42 PM
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At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

They didn't make very good atheists leaders and are largely forgotten. But secular atheism is growing and not having to deal with the mentally ill and the illiterates is making it extremely popular in our modern world where we are so self absorbed we can only be identified by our deodorants which is another indication of how well secular atheists gel together.
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3/27/2015 6:45:31 PM
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At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!! : :

Most atheists I know don't obsess over someone not thinking like them. Most atheists I know like me and the knowledge of God that I share with them, especially when I don't mention the name, "God" as I talk about quantum mechanics and consciousness.
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3/27/2015 6:49:35 PM
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At 3/27/2015 10:10:29 AM, JJ50 wrote:
On this forum there are some extreme theists who clearly have mental health issues, if the garbage they come out with is an indication of the functioning of their minds.

As a lot of what is claimed for Jesus is much less than credible, and some of his quoted utterances are pretty strange to say the least, maybe his opinion of himself as divine was conjured up by an unsound mind?

It's the one's who believe the Bible is the Word of God that are confused and look mentally ill to atheists. If Christians knew the Truth, they wouldn't need any evidence such as a Bible or church building or golden altars and other visible objects. Their false deity named Jesus didn't need any of these visible objects to find God's believers to witness God's knowledge to so why do they?
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3/27/2015 6:56:50 PM
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At 3/27/2015 1:43:33 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 12:49:04 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:23:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 11:17:41 AM, ethang5 wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:

What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

That only leaves the merciless psychopaths for atheists. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler ring any bells?

Hitler was a Christian, apparently! But not even that evil piece of scum was as psychopathic as the deity featured in the Bible, who was supposedly the father of Jesus!

If you think Hitler was a Christian then your definition of Christian is gibberish. And as such, your opinion can be dismissed as the rantings of an ignorant. There is no reason for you to call Hitler an evil piece of scum. His belief system was very much like yours.

The word "Christian" means something. Words in general, mean something. This is why men cannot simply call themselves women, and democrats aren't republicans, and atheists aren't called Christian.

If your argument requires words to be stripped of meaning, it becomes impotent against Christianity.

Christianity encompasses so many dogmas, doctrines, cults and sects. There is no such thing as a 'real/true' Christian. : :

The name, "Christian" has deceived atheists, antichrists and God's chosen believers. God labels His people much differently than His people do. He sees them as invisible characters within His thoughts who are totally deceived by the visible objects they observer.
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3/27/2015 7:00:04 PM
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At 3/27/2015 4:42:05 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 3/27/2015 4:14:02 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/27/2015 4:10:51 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 3/27/2015 4:03:32 PM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
At 3/27/2015 10:54:31 AM, Harikrish wrote:
What is certain is the mentally ill are drawing towards Jesus and the illiterates are drawn towards the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
It appears atheists have the best of both worlds and ironically benefit the most from the two religions. They don't have to deal with the mentally ill or the illiterates. Lol!!

I think it's fairly easy to make a case that atheists are narcissistic half-wits who do not know they are mentally disabled and think left-brain hemisphere dominancy that obliterates right-brain spiritual sensitivity is "normal", i.e. atheists are patently irrational as their ideas are found in only 5% of the population meaning 95% don't agree with them and yet they think they are thinking "normally" and theists are crazies. Without spiritual consciousness atheists are lost at sea when they attack like moths to the flame the very thing they like in real normal human consciousness that includes the ability to mentally "feel" spiritual events. It's very much like atheists are deaf to music and wonder why everyone's going gah gah over what sounds like noise to them.

But atheists egos are among the biggest in the world and they won't ever admit they are actually mentally retarded in the spiritual consciousness area normal for the vast majority of humankind.

The entire population once believed the world was flat. They were wrong. A lot of people believing a wrong idea doesn't make it right, it just makes it popular.

Yup, and that is very true of atheism. It is popular, but it is wrong.

Unfortunately that also applies to Islam, Apostate Christianity, and all the other "ear tickling" beliefs.

The true faith stands alone.

Atheists are in the vast minority so you really need to check facts before making assertions.

Umm, I take it you didn't read the posts then?

That was precisely my point

That was precisely the point of Jesus prophecy.

That was precisely the point about what the Apostles also taught about this time period

That is what contributes to the proof of prophecy.

That is why True followers of Christ stand alone.

They are surrounded by Atheists, false religions and Apostate Christians who claim to follow Christ but don;t even know what it means.

And what you have is a book written by men and interpreted for the benefit of men. Your faith is no better or worse than any other.

No, I have a book inspired by God, some of it directly.

Yes it has been interpreted for the benefit of men, but some of us prefer to understand what it really says.

That is what makes my faith different. I don't care what men think. I only care about what is true.