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Secular S. and Satanism: No real difference.

Excalibur
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4/2/2015 1:24:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
"Secular spirituality emphasizes humanistic qualities such as love, compassion, patience, forgiveness, responsibility, harmony and a concern for others. Aspects of life and human experience which go beyond a purely materialistic view of the world, without necessarily accepting belief in a supernatural reality or divine being. Spiritual practices such as mindfulness and meditation can be experienced as beneficial or even necessary for human fulfillment without any supernatural interpretation or explanation. Spirituality in this context may be a matter of nurturing thoughts, emotions, words and actions that are in harmony with a belief that everything in the universe is mutually dependent." -Wiki

"Satanism..[..]..is an atheistic and materialistic religion that champions individualism, epicureanism, secularism, and egoism, and propagates a worldview of naturalism, Social Darwinism, and Lex Talionis. Adherents describe it as a non-spiritual religion of the flesh. Contrary to popular belief, it does not involve "devil worship" or worship of any deities. The Church of Satan asserts that "In Satanism each individual is his or her own god"there is no room for any other god and that includes Satan, Lucifer, Cthulhu or whatever other name one might select or take from history or fiction." Adherents instead see the character of Satan as a symbol of pride, carnality, liberty, enlightenment, and undefiled wisdom, and serves as a conceptual framework and an external metaphorical projection of [the Satanists] highest personal potential. Satan is seen as a symbol of defiance to the conservatism of mainstream philosophical and religious currents, mainly the Abrahamic religions, that see this character as their antithesis" -Wiki

It is as though Secularist just refuse to be associated with Satanist. No real difference, in my opinion, from the two beliefs, except that one has a bad reputation. Agree or disagree?
Ragnar
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4/2/2015 2:06:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I really wish Atheists would not call themselves Satanists for attention. It's needlessly confusing. About like if a children's advocacy group named themselves The Church of Pedophilia.
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Bennett91
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4/2/2015 2:41:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/2/2015 1:24:04 AM, Excalibur wrote:
"Secular spirituality emphasizes humanistic qualities such as love, compassion, patience, forgiveness, responsibility, harmony and a concern for others. Aspects of life and human experience which go beyond a purely materialistic view of the world, without necessarily accepting belief in a supernatural reality or divine being. Spiritual practices such as mindfulness and meditation can be experienced as beneficial or even necessary for human fulfillment without any supernatural interpretation or explanation. Spirituality in this context may be a matter of nurturing thoughts, emotions, words and actions that are in harmony with a belief that everything in the universe is mutually dependent." -Wiki

"Satanism..[..]..is an atheistic and materialistic religion that champions individualism, epicureanism, secularism, and egoism, and propagates a worldview of naturalism, Social Darwinism, and Lex Talionis. Adherents describe it as a non-spiritual religion of the flesh. Contrary to popular belief, it does not involve "devil worship" or worship of any deities. The Church of Satan asserts that "In Satanism each individual is his or her own god"there is no room for any other god and that includes Satan, Lucifer, Cthulhu or whatever other name one might select or take from history or fiction." Adherents instead see the character of Satan as a symbol of pride, carnality, liberty, enlightenment, and undefiled wisdom, and serves as a conceptual framework and an external metaphorical projection of [the Satanists] highest personal potential. Satan is seen as a symbol of defiance to the conservatism of mainstream philosophical and religious currents, mainly the Abrahamic religions, that see this character as their antithesis" -Wiki


It is as though Secularist just refuse to be associated with Satanist. No real difference, in my opinion, from the two beliefs, except that one has a bad reputation. Agree or disagree?

And if they are the same what is the criticism? That we should do away with secular reason in favor of sectarian/theocratic reason?