Total Posts:17|Showing Posts:1-17
Jump to topic:

Red Heifer.

Rant
Posts: 1,674
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
4/16/2015 7:07:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
The Red Heifer is of importance to the Temple rites in that its ashes are used to purify the Temple vessels, priestly garments, and even the priests and Temple themselves so that services may be performed.
Numbers 19:1-7 "And the Lord spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, "This is the ordinance of the law which the Lord hath commanded," saying, "Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring thee a red heifer without spot, wherein is no blemish, and upon which never came yoke: And ye shall give her unto Eleazar the priest, that he may bring her forth without the camp, and one shall slay her before his face: And Eleazar the priest shall take of her blood with his finger, and sprinkle of her blood directly before the tabernacle of the congregation seven times:
And one shall burn the heifer in his sight; her skin, and her flesh, and her blood, with her dung, shall he burn: And the priest shall take cedar wood, and hyssop, and scarlet, and cast it into the midst of the burning of the heifer. Then the priest shall wash his clothes, and he shall bathe his flesh in water, and afterward he shall come into the camp, and the priest shall be unclean until the even.""
Not too long ago, a potential candidate was recently disregarded when white hairs appeared on its coat. However...another may have been discovered on a small farm outside of Lakewood, New Jersey.
This entirely red, two-year-old heifer with no two hairs of another color is a very rare phenomenon.
Many breeders have tried unsuccessfully to genetically manipulate such results. However, this red heifer has brownish red eyes and horns WITHOUT ANY GENETIC MANIPULATION.
Since the animal has already turned two, it can now be inspected by Israeli rabbis for any blemishes and that would disqualify it. The animal would be eligible for sacrificial service if it is confirmed that it meets all the requirements.
According to its owner, Herbert Celler, the cow was born during Passover in 2013 and he has been worked hard to keep the heifer safe from performing any duties that might disqualify her.
Many consider the appearance of the red heifer will be a sign that the Messiah is about to return. Celler said its message is for Jew and Gentile to "get ready."

Before Messiah returns, however, the Third Temple will be rebuilt.

According to Rabbi Chaim Richman, the Temple Institute's international director, that Third Temple will be built when the world will want us to build the Temple.

However, a statement made by the Temple Institute during its Third Temple blueprint fundraising campaign in 2014 said there is a duty to build it as well:

"It is not enough to wait and pray for the Third Temple. It is a biblical obligation to build it."

Luke 21:28 "And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."
Rant
Posts: 1,674
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
4/16/2015 7:11:56 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Matt 24:15-16: "Therefore when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place" (whoever reads, let him understand) "then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
Notice it is in a specific locale Jesus is referring to, that he will enter and where Jews will flee from. The holy place is a reference to the temple. He will go into the physical temple to make his declaration of being God. The mystery of iniquity will fully be revealed in the middle of the seven year tribulation as the Antichrist goes in the Temple, stops the sacrifices (Daniel 9:27), declaring himself "God" (2 Thessalonians 2:4), and the abomination of desolation begins.
debate_power
Posts: 726
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/2/2015 2:13:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/16/2015 7:07:45 AM, Rant wrote:
The Red Heifer is of importance to the Temple rites in that its ashes are used to purify the Temple vessels, priestly garments, and even the priests and Temple themselves so that services may be performed.
Numbers 19:1-7 "And the Lord spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, "This is the ordinance of the law which the Lord hath commanded," saying, "Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring thee a red heifer without spot, wherein is no blemish, and upon which never came yoke: And ye shall give her unto Eleazar the priest, that he may bring her forth without the camp, and one shall slay her before his face: And Eleazar the priest shall take of her blood with his finger, and sprinkle of her blood directly before the tabernacle of the congregation seven times:
And one shall burn the heifer in his sight; her skin, and her flesh, and her blood, with her dung, shall he burn: And the priest shall take cedar wood, and hyssop, and scarlet, and cast it into the midst of the burning of the heifer. Then the priest shall wash his clothes, and he shall bathe his flesh in water, and afterward he shall come into the camp, and the priest shall be unclean until the even.""
Not too long ago, a potential candidate was recently disregarded when white hairs appeared on its coat. However...another may have been discovered on a small farm outside of Lakewood, New Jersey.
This entirely red, two-year-old heifer with no two hairs of another color is a very rare phenomenon.
Many breeders have tried unsuccessfully to genetically manipulate such results. However, this red heifer has brownish red eyes and horns WITHOUT ANY GENETIC MANIPULATION.
Since the animal has already turned two, it can now be inspected by Israeli rabbis for any blemishes and that would disqualify it. The animal would be eligible for sacrificial service if it is confirmed that it meets all the requirements.
According to its owner, Herbert Celler, the cow was born during Passover in 2013 and he has been worked hard to keep the heifer safe from performing any duties that might disqualify her.
Many consider the appearance of the red heifer will be a sign that the Messiah is about to return. Celler said its message is for Jew and Gentile to "get ready."

Before Messiah returns, however, the Third Temple will be rebuilt.

According to Rabbi Chaim Richman, the Temple Institute's international director, that Third Temple will be built when the world will want us to build the Temple.

However, a statement made by the Temple Institute during its Third Temple blueprint fundraising campaign in 2014 said there is a duty to build it as well:

"It is not enough to wait and pray for the Third Temple. It is a biblical obligation to build it."

Luke 21:28 "And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."

So why is the animal a necessity for purification? Is there any medical evidence that it "purifies" things?
You can call me Mark if you like.
debate_power
Posts: 726
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/2/2015 2:15:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/2/2015 2:13:59 PM, debate_power wrote:
At 4/16/2015 7:07:45 AM, Rant wrote:
The Red Heifer is of importance to the Temple rites in that its ashes are used to purify the Temple vessels, priestly garments, and even the priests and Temple themselves so that services may be performed.
Numbers 19:1-7 "And the Lord spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, "This is the ordinance of the law which the Lord hath commanded," saying, "Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring thee a red heifer without spot, wherein is no blemish, and upon which never came yoke: And ye shall give her unto Eleazar the priest, that he may bring her forth without the camp, and one shall slay her before his face: And Eleazar the priest shall take of her blood with his finger, and sprinkle of her blood directly before the tabernacle of the congregation seven times:
And one shall burn the heifer in his sight; her skin, and her flesh, and her blood, with her dung, shall he burn: And the priest shall take cedar wood, and hyssop, and scarlet, and cast it into the midst of the burning of the heifer. Then the priest shall wash his clothes, and he shall bathe his flesh in water, and afterward he shall come into the camp, and the priest shall be unclean until the even.""
Not too long ago, a potential candidate was recently disregarded when white hairs appeared on its coat. However...another may have been discovered on a small farm outside of Lakewood, New Jersey.
This entirely red, two-year-old heifer with no two hairs of another color is a very rare phenomenon.
Many breeders have tried unsuccessfully to genetically manipulate such results. However, this red heifer has brownish red eyes and horns WITHOUT ANY GENETIC MANIPULATION.
Since the animal has already turned two, it can now be inspected by Israeli rabbis for any blemishes and that would disqualify it. The animal would be eligible for sacrificial service if it is confirmed that it meets all the requirements.
According to its owner, Herbert Celler, the cow was born during Passover in 2013 and he has been worked hard to keep the heifer safe from performing any duties that might disqualify her.
Many consider the appearance of the red heifer will be a sign that the Messiah is about to return. Celler said its message is for Jew and Gentile to "get ready."

Before Messiah returns, however, the Third Temple will be rebuilt.

According to Rabbi Chaim Richman, the Temple Institute's international director, that Third Temple will be built when the world will want us to build the Temple.

However, a statement made by the Temple Institute during its Third Temple blueprint fundraising campaign in 2014 said there is a duty to build it as well:

"It is not enough to wait and pray for the Third Temple. It is a biblical obligation to build it."

Luke 21:28 "And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."

So why is the animal a necessity for purification? Is there any medical evidence that it "purifies" things?

And why does it matter that it's not genetically "manipulated"? It is the product of mutations that occurred over billions of years. Genetic modification involves the exact same thing over less time.
You can call me Mark if you like.
Gentorev
Posts: 2,878
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/2/2015 6:00:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/16/2015 7:11:56 AM, Rant wrote:
Matt 24:15-16: "Therefore when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place" (whoever reads, let him understand) "then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
Notice it is in a specific locale Jesus is referring to, that he will enter and where Jews will flee from. The holy place is a reference to the temple. He will go into the physical temple to make his declaration of being God. The mystery of iniquity will fully be revealed in the middle of the seven year tribulation as the Antichrist goes in the Temple, stops the sacrifices (Daniel 9:27), declaring himself "God" (2 Thessalonians 2:4), and the abomination of desolation begins.

I googled this up for you mate.

A son of the famous Boethus family of seven sons, Mary"s great-great-great grandfather, arrived into Jewish history as one of the giants of the priests of the House of Zadok. The High Priest Hananeel (Ananelus) the Egyptian was privileged to sacrifice one of the nine red heifers before the temple of Herod was destroyed in 70 CE. The ashes of the red heifer were used in all the purification ceremonies, and were the vital ingredient in the preservation of the sanctity of the Holy Temple. The ashes of the tenth red heifer were prophetically anticipated to happen prior to the coming of the messiah.
The tongue, the sharp two edged sword that divides the spirit from the soul.
celestialtorahteacher
Posts: 1,369
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/2/2015 6:34:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
The Bible cannot be used as spiritual authority. Got it? All of you desperately trying to fit in Bible prophesies with real time events are lunatics on parade, especially rant who is a cut-n-paste believer desperate to whip up some attention so he posts provocation topics and posts their propaganda stories too.

No sane Jew I know would want to see a single animal killed for "purifying" sin? What is that? An animal's life is meaningless to a sinning human's need to use it for a ritualistic little murders of innocents? I read somewhere the ancient Jerusalem streets around the Temple were filled with blood from all the sacrificed animals, and if that wouldn't constitute a desecration of worship site I don't know what would. Except I do know, "desolation" something Christians like rant and Bible thumpers never think of, looking at the words without bias instilled by propaganda scriptures. "Abomination of Desolation" already happened to Jerusalem, which was made desolate after the Romans got through with it for hundreds of years, a mere ghost place when Arab Muslims began their restoration of Temple Mount with the Dome of the Rock. Desolation doesn't mean a boogeyman idol but lack of worship. That is the Abomination.
Gentorev
Posts: 2,878
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/2/2015 7:04:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/2/2015 6:34:45 PM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
The Bible cannot be used as spiritual authority. Got it? All of you desperately trying to fit in Bible prophesies with real time events are lunatics on parade, especially rant who is a cut-n-paste believer desperate to whip up some attention so he posts provocation topics and posts their propaganda stories too.

No sane Jew I know would want to see a single animal killed for "purifying" sin? What is that? An animal's life is meaningless to a sinning human's need to use it for a ritualistic little murders of innocents? I read somewhere the ancient Jerusalem streets around the Temple were filled with blood from all the sacrificed animals, and if that wouldn't constitute a desecration of worship site I don't know what would. Except I do know, "desolation" something Christians like rant and Bible thumpers never think of, looking at the words without bias instilled by propaganda scriptures. "Abomination of Desolation" already happened to Jerusalem, which was made desolate after the Romans got through with it for hundreds of years, a mere ghost place when Arab Muslims began their restoration of Temple Mount with the Dome of the Rock. Desolation doesn't mean a boogeyman idol but lack of worship. That is the Abomination.

His head is floating round the stars
He don't know really where he are
His words remain an empty sound
Till his feet are back here on the ground
The words of God to him are shyt
Cos he don't know the half of it.
He's just another bloke like BOG
Thinking only----that "HIS" words are Gods.
The tongue, the sharp two edged sword that divides the spirit from the soul.
dee-em
Posts: 6,444
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/2/2015 8:20:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/2/2015 6:34:45 PM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
The Bible cannot be used as spiritual authority. Got it? All of you desperately trying to fit in Bible prophesies with real time events are lunatics on parade, especially rant who is a cut-n-paste believer desperate to whip up some attention so he posts provocation topics and posts their propaganda stories too.

No sane Jew I know would want to see a single animal killed for "purifying" sin? What is that? An animal's life is meaningless to a sinning human's need to use it for a ritualistic little murders of innocents? I read somewhere the ancient Jerusalem streets around the Temple were filled with blood from all the sacrificed animals, and if that wouldn't constitute a desecration of worship site I don't know what would. Except I do know, "desolation" something Christians like rant and Bible thumpers never think of, looking at the words without bias instilled by propaganda scriptures. "Abomination of Desolation" already happened to Jerusalem, which was made desolate after the Romans got through with it for hundreds of years, a mere ghost place when Arab Muslims began their restoration of Temple Mount with the Dome of the Rock. Desolation doesn't mean a boogeyman idol but lack of worship. That is the Abomination.

The abomination is when Roman Emperor Hadrian starts erecting a statue to Jupiter on the sacred grounds of the rubble of the Second Temple in 132AD. An abomination... standing where it doesn't belong... causing desolation. This incites the Jews to go to war again with Rome and the actual Jewish messiah (not the mythical Jesus) comes - Simon Bar Kochba.
bornofgod
Posts: 11,322
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/2/2015 10:11:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/2/2015 7:04:29 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 5/2/2015 6:34:45 PM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
The Bible cannot be used as spiritual authority. Got it? All of you desperately trying to fit in Bible prophesies with real time events are lunatics on parade, especially rant who is a cut-n-paste believer desperate to whip up some attention so he posts provocation topics and posts their propaganda stories too.

No sane Jew I know would want to see a single animal killed for "purifying" sin? What is that? An animal's life is meaningless to a sinning human's need to use it for a ritualistic little murders of innocents? I read somewhere the ancient Jerusalem streets around the Temple were filled with blood from all the sacrificed animals, and if that wouldn't constitute a desecration of worship site I don't know what would. Except I do know, "desolation" something Christians like rant and Bible thumpers never think of, looking at the words without bias instilled by propaganda scriptures. "Abomination of Desolation" already happened to Jerusalem, which was made desolate after the Romans got through with it for hundreds of years, a mere ghost place when Arab Muslims began their restoration of Temple Mount with the Dome of the Rock. Desolation doesn't mean a boogeyman idol but lack of worship. That is the Abomination.

His head is floating round the stars
He don't know really where he are
His words remain an empty sound
Till his feet are back here on the ground
The words of God to him are shyt
Cos he don't know the half of it.
He's just another bloke like BOG
Thinking only----that "HIS" words are Gods. : :

You're derailing this thread with your accusations that go against God's commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor".
Gentorev
Posts: 2,878
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/3/2015 2:04:57 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/2/2015 10:11:44 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 5/2/2015 7:04:29 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 5/2/2015 6:34:45 PM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
The Bible cannot be used as spiritual authority. Got it? All of you desperately trying to fit in Bible prophesies with real time events are lunatics on parade, especially rant who is a cut-n-paste believer desperate to whip up some attention so he posts provocation topics and posts their propaganda stories too.

No sane Jew I know would want to see a single animal killed for "purifying" sin? What is that? An animal's life is meaningless to a sinning human's need to use it for a ritualistic little murders of innocents? I read somewhere the ancient Jerusalem streets around the Temple were filled with blood from all the sacrificed animals, and if that wouldn't constitute a desecration of worship site I don't know what would. Except I do know, "desolation" something Christians like rant and Bible thumpers never think of, looking at the words without bias instilled by propaganda scriptures. "Abomination of Desolation" already happened to Jerusalem, which was made desolate after the Romans got through with it for hundreds of years, a mere ghost place when Arab Muslims began their restoration of Temple Mount with the Dome of the Rock. Desolation doesn't mean a boogeyman idol but lack of worship. That is the Abomination.

His head is floating round the stars
He don't know really where he are
His words remain an empty sound
Till his feet are back here on the ground
The words of God to him are shyt
Cos he don't know the half of it.
He's just another bloke like BOG
Thinking only----that "HIS" words are Gods. : :

You're derailing this thread with your accusations that go against God's commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor".

That shocking smell that's in the air
I think it came from over there
Behind that door that has no key,
Where the ear can't hear and the eye can't see
The tongue, the sharp two edged sword that divides the spirit from the soul.
bornofgod
Posts: 11,322
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/3/2015 10:12:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/3/2015 2:04:57 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 5/2/2015 10:11:44 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 5/2/2015 7:04:29 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 5/2/2015 6:34:45 PM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
The Bible cannot be used as spiritual authority. Got it? All of you desperately trying to fit in Bible prophesies with real time events are lunatics on parade, especially rant who is a cut-n-paste believer desperate to whip up some attention so he posts provocation topics and posts their propaganda stories too.

No sane Jew I know would want to see a single animal killed for "purifying" sin? What is that? An animal's life is meaningless to a sinning human's need to use it for a ritualistic little murders of innocents? I read somewhere the ancient Jerusalem streets around the Temple were filled with blood from all the sacrificed animals, and if that wouldn't constitute a desecration of worship site I don't know what would. Except I do know, "desolation" something Christians like rant and Bible thumpers never think of, looking at the words without bias instilled by propaganda scriptures. "Abomination of Desolation" already happened to Jerusalem, which was made desolate after the Romans got through with it for hundreds of years, a mere ghost place when Arab Muslims began their restoration of Temple Mount with the Dome of the Rock. Desolation doesn't mean a boogeyman idol but lack of worship. That is the Abomination.

His head is floating round the stars
He don't know really where he are
His words remain an empty sound
Till his feet are back here on the ground
The words of God to him are shyt
Cos he don't know the half of it.
He's just another bloke like BOG
Thinking only----that "HIS" words are Gods. : :

You're derailing this thread with your accusations that go against God's commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor".

That shocking smell that's in the air
I think it came from over there
Behind that door that has no key,
Where the ear can't hear and the eye can't see : :

I know you can't see Me and you never will. You can only see my artistic visible objects.
Harikrish
Posts: 11,005
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/3/2015 10:53:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/3/2015 10:12:22 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 5/3/2015 2:04:57 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 5/2/2015 10:11:44 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 5/2/2015 7:04:29 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 5/2/2015 6:34:45 PM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
The Bible cannot be used as spiritual authority. Got it? All of you desperately trying to fit in Bible prophesies with real time events are lunatics on parade, especially rant who is a cut-n-paste believer desperate to whip up some attention so he posts provocation topics and posts their propaganda stories too.

No sane Jew I know would want to see a single animal killed for "purifying" sin? What is that? An animal's life is meaningless to a sinning human's need to use it for a ritualistic little murders of innocents? I read somewhere the ancient Jerusalem streets around the Temple were filled with blood from all the sacrificed animals, and if that wouldn't constitute a desecration of worship site I don't know what would. Except I do know, "desolation" something Christians like rant and Bible thumpers never think of, looking at the words without bias instilled by propaganda scriptures. "Abomination of Desolation" already happened to Jerusalem, which was made desolate after the Romans got through with it for hundreds of years, a mere ghost place when Arab Muslims began their restoration of Temple Mount with the Dome of the Rock. Desolation doesn't mean a boogeyman idol but lack of worship. That is the Abomination.

His head is floating round the stars
He don't know really where he are
His words remain an empty sound
Till his feet are back here on the ground
The words of God to him are shyt
Cos he don't know the half of it.
He's just another bloke like BOG
Thinking only----that "HIS" words are Gods. : :

You're derailing this thread with your accusations that go against God's commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor".

That shocking smell that's in the air
I think it came from over there
Behind that door that has no key,
Where the ear can't hear and the eye can't see : :

I know you can't see Me and you never will. You can only see my artistic visible objects.

You posted your picture and videos of yourself and gave a contact address as Brad Holkesvig. You also post here as Brad aka BoG. The only thing that is invisible about you is your family that you abandoned, your earthly possessions which you squandered and lost and your authority and qualifications to preach the scriptures. You have the freedom of speech to speak nonsense which is what you are doing because you are incoherent and delusional. But that is hardly a qualification. Your mind ain't right, Brad.
celestialtorahteacher
Posts: 1,369
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/3/2015 2:31:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
God's moved the spiritual center from the Old World to the New World. Red Heifer has been replaced by the white buffalo calf heifers as Sign of Her Return. That's where the Spirit is in motion, certainly not with imitation Jews in Jerusalem.
Harikrish
Posts: 11,005
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/3/2015 3:14:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
The Jews will always be a persecuted people because they need that to justify their existence. Even the God they created ended up punishing and scattering them only to fall victim to races more conscious of a corrupted lineage that God himself was determined to stamp out. From Isaiah to Jesus the prophets warned of the destruction of Jerusalem. The wisdom of God can be seen in the more merciful ways He has devised of exterminating them.
Gentorev
Posts: 2,878
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
1/16/2016 8:42:52 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 5/3/2015 3:14:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
The Jews will always be a persecuted people because they need that to justify their existence. Even the God they created ended up punishing and scattering them only to fall victim to races more conscious of a corrupted lineage that God himself was determined to stamp out. From Isaiah to Jesus the prophets warned of the destruction of Jerusalem. The wisdom of God can be seen in the more merciful ways He has devised of exterminating them.

Here goes Harikrish again, totally ignorant to the Holy Scriptures and spewing out his hatred against the Jews.

Micah 4: 1; But in the last days the mountain where the Temple stands will be the highest one of all, towering above all the hills.
Many Nations will come streaming to it, and their people will say, "Let go up the hill to the Lord," to the temple of Israel's God.
For he will teach us what he wants us to do, we will walk in the paths of his chosen. For the Lord's teaching comes from Jerusalem; from Zion he speaks to his people, etc, etc.

Joel 3: 16; The Lord roars from Mount Zion; his voice thunders from Jerusalem; earth and sky tremble. But he will defend his people. Then, Israel, you will know that I am the Lord your God. I live on Zion my sacred hill. Jerusalem will be a sacred city; foreigners will never conquer it again.

Isaiah 63: 1-6, "Who is this coming from the city of Bozrah in Edom? Who is this so splendidly dressed in red, marching along in power and strength?" It is the Lord, powerful to save, coming to announce his victory. "Why is his clothing so red, like that of a man who tramples grapes to make wine?"

The Lord answers, "I have trampled the nations like grapes and no one came to help me. I trampled them in my anger, and their blood has stained all my clothing. I decided that the time to save my people had come; it was time to punish their enemies, I was amazed when I looked and saw that there was no one to help me. But my anger made me strong, and I won the victory myself. In my anger I trampled whole nations and shattered them, I poured out their life"s blood on the earth."

The fault line where the African tectonic plate grinds against the Arabian plate in its northern migration, runs up through the centre of the Red Sea along the Jordan valley and under the Mount of Olives.

Concerning the war to end all war the Lord says through Zechariah 14: 3-19; "Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations as he has fought in times past. At that time he will stand upon the Mount of Olives, to the east of Jerusalem. Then the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west by a large valley. Half of the Mountain will move northward (on the African plate) and half of it(on the Arabian plate) southward, etc.

From within the inner most sanctuary of his tabernacle, which is the body of mankind, he will fight the enemies of Israel; those Nations who surround Jerusalem in their attempt to drive God's chosen people into the sea. The Lord will throw them into a state of total confusion, and the weapons of destruction with which they would destroy Israel, he will cause them to turn upon their own allies and they shall suffer a terrible disease, the soft tissue such as their eyes and tongues will melt in their sockets, and their radiated flesh cooked to the bone will slide from their bodies while still standing.

Then all those who sing and dance with their eyes and hands raised to the heavens in worship of a god they neither know or understand, can kiss goodbye to their great cathedrals of Marble, stone and crystal, for all the surviving Nations, will send their representatives, who will go up each year to Jerusalem in the land of Israel, to worship the Lord as King and woe betide those who refuse to do so, See Zechariah 14.

Does this sound like a God who is devising ways to exterminate the Jews? only those like Harikrish who are ignorant to the Holy Scriptures would make such a ridiculous claim.
The tongue, the sharp two edged sword that divides the spirit from the soul.
Harikrish
Posts: 11,005
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
1/16/2016 2:49:04 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/16/2016 8:42:52 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 5/3/2015 3:14:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
The Jews will always be a persecuted people because they need that to justify their existence. Even the God they created ended up punishing and scattering them only to fall victim to races more conscious of a corrupted lineage that God himself was determined to stamp out. From Isaiah to Jesus the prophets warned of the destruction of Jerusalem. The wisdom of God can be seen in the more merciful ways He has devised of exterminating them.

Here goes Harikrish again, totally ignorant to the Holy Scriptures and spewing out his hatred against the Jews.

Micah 4: 1; But in the last days the mountain where the Temple stands will be the highest one of all, towering above all the hills.
Many Nations will come streaming to it, and their people will say, "Let go up the hill to the Lord," to the temple of Israel's God.
For he will teach us what he wants us to do, we will walk in the paths of his chosen. For the Lord's teaching comes from Jerusalem; from Zion he speaks to his people, etc, etc.

Joel 3: 16; The Lord roars from Mount Zion; his voice thunders from Jerusalem; earth and sky tremble. But he will defend his people. Then, Israel, you will know that I am the Lord your God. I live on Zion my sacred hill. Jerusalem will be a sacred city; foreigners will never conquer it again.

Isaiah 63: 1-6, "Who is this coming from the city of Bozrah in Edom? Who is this so splendidly dressed in red, marching along in power and strength?" It is the Lord, powerful to save, coming to announce his victory. "Why is his clothing so red, like that of a man who tramples grapes to make wine?"

The Lord answers, "I have trampled the nations like grapes and no one came to help me. I trampled them in my anger, and their blood has stained all my clothing. I decided that the time to save my people had come; it was time to punish their enemies, I was amazed when I looked and saw that there was no one to help me. But my anger made me strong, and I won the victory myself. In my anger I trampled whole nations and shattered them, I poured out their life"s blood on the earth."

The fault line where the African tectonic plate grinds against the Arabian plate in its northern migration, runs up through the centre of the Red Sea along the Jordan valley and under the Mount of Olives.

Concerning the war to end all war the Lord says through Zechariah 14: 3-19; "Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations as he has fought in times past. At that time he will stand upon the Mount of Olives, to the east of Jerusalem. Then the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west by a large valley. Half of the Mountain will move northward (on the African plate) and half of it(on the Arabian plate) southward, etc.

From within the inner most sanctuary of his tabernacle, which is the body of mankind, he will fight the enemies of Israel; those Nations who surround Jerusalem in their attempt to drive God's chosen people into the sea. The Lord will throw them into a state of total confusion, and the weapons of destruction with which they would destroy Israel, he will cause them to turn upon their own allies and they shall suffer a terrible disease, the soft tissue such as their eyes and tongues will melt in their sockets, and their radiated flesh cooked to the bone will slide from their bodies while still standing.

Then all those who sing and dance with their eyes and hands raised to the heavens in worship of a god they neither know or understand, can kiss goodbye to their great cathedrals of Marble, stone and crystal, for all the surviving Nations, will send their representatives, who will go up each year to Jerusalem in the land of Israel, to worship the Lord as King and woe betide those who refuse to do so, See Zechariah 14.

Does this sound like a God who is devising ways to exterminate the Jews? only those like Harikrish who are ignorant to the Holy Scriptures would make such a ridiculous claim.

Read your bible. Noah's flood was sent to destroy the wicked Jews and it destroyed all of them except Noah and his family and the animals he could fit on a boat. The Jews believed it was judgement on the entire world. But archeologists discovered the flood was a local regional event and wiped out only the Jews and did not effect other parts of the world.

I don't think the Jews are anymore evil that Christians. But the Bible is their book and they wrote it believing they were repeatedly punished by God for being evil and unrepentant. Call it their persecution complex. But every prophet they produced had an apocalyptic message for them even when all the other nations of the world were advancing.