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7/30/2010 10:59:49 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
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(CNN) -- In protest of what it calls a religion "of the devil," a nondenominational church in Gainesville, Florida, plans to host an "International Burn a Quran Day" on the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks.

The Dove World Outreach Center says it is hosting the event to remember 9/11 victims and take a stand against Islam. With promotions on its website and Facebook page, it invites Christians to burn the Muslim holy book at the church from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m.

"We believe that Islam is of the devil, that it's causing billions of people to go to hell, it is a deceptive religion, it is a violent religion and that is proven many, many times," Pastor Terry Jones told CNN's Rick Sanchez earlier this week.

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7/30/2010 11:02:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 10:59:49 PM, Freeman wrote:
Thumbs up or thumbs down?

(CNN) -- In protest of what it calls a religion "of the devil," a nondenominational church in Gainesville, Florida, plans to host an "International Burn a Quran Day" on the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks.

The Dove World Outreach Center says it is hosting the event to remember 9/11 victims and take a stand against Islam. With promotions on its website and Facebook page, it invites Christians to burn the Muslim holy book at the church from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m.

"We believe that Islam is of the devil, that it's causing billions of people to go to hell, it is a deceptive religion, it is a violent religion and that is proven many, many times," Pastor Terry Jones told CNN's Rick Sanchez earlier this week.

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A fine example as to why peace will never coexist with religion.
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7/30/2010 11:05:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Yes, Christians should burn a Qur'an every day. Muslims should burn a Bible every day. Think of how many more books would be printed, how much it would stimulate the economy.
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7/30/2010 11:15:16 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Thumbs down for the burn a koran day and burn a bible day.

Any religion that thinks their better or more right then any other religion without proof outside of religious texts/followers is a foolish religion, and should not promote any hate to another one.
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7/30/2010 11:17:55 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
The hypocrisy is beyond irritating.

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7/30/2010 11:18:51 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
There are better ways to make a stand than burning books, which comes across as bigotry. Still so long as no one is being hurt.
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7/30/2010 11:20:05 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:18:51 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
There are better ways to make a stand than burning books, which comes across as bigotry. Still so long as no one is being hurt.

I agreethat it should be legal as long as no one is hurt. I still don't think people should do it or judge a whole religion based on a few nut jobs.
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7/30/2010 11:22:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:20:05 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:18:51 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
There are better ways to make a stand than burning books, which comes across as bigotry. Still so long as no one is being hurt.

I agreethat it should be legal as long as no one is hurt. I still don't think people should do it or judge a whole religion based on a few nut jobs.

Unless they stole the books they have put money in Muslim hands... which would seem counterproductive.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/30/2010 11:24:11 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:22:13 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:20:05 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:18:51 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
There are better ways to make a stand than burning books, which comes across as bigotry. Still so long as no one is being hurt.

I agreethat it should be legal as long as no one is hurt. I still don't think people should do it or judge a whole religion based on a few nut jobs.

Unless they stole the books they have put money in Muslim hands... which would seem counterproductive.

Lmao good point. And since its a Christian church thing you can bet they didn't steal because thats a sin and everyone involved would burn in Hell. Unless stealing from Muslims doesn't count.
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7/30/2010 11:29:51 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:22:13 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:20:05 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:18:51 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
There are better ways to make a stand than burning books, which comes across as bigotry. Still so long as no one is being hurt.

I agreethat it should be legal as long as no one is hurt. I still don't think people should do it or judge a whole religion based on a few nut jobs.

Unless they stole the books they have put money in Muslim hands... which would seem counterproductive.

With that money, Muslims can buy a Bible and burn it too. That way, the exchange is fair and the economy improves. BIG PICTURE, GUYS!
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
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7/30/2010 11:31:57 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:29:51 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:22:13 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:20:05 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:18:51 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
There are better ways to make a stand than burning books, which comes across as bigotry. Still so long as no one is being hurt.

I agreethat it should be legal as long as no one is hurt. I still don't think people should do it or judge a whole religion based on a few nut jobs.

Unless they stole the books they have put money in Muslim hands... which would seem counterproductive.

With that money, Muslims can buy a Bible and burn it too. That way, the exchange is fair and the economy improves. BIG PICTURE, GUYS!

Hmm... was the reason the Nazi's reinvigorated the German economy down to a sudden boom in the book industry?
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/30/2010 11:33:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:31:57 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:29:51 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:22:13 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:20:05 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:18:51 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
There are better ways to make a stand than burning books, which comes across as bigotry. Still so long as no one is being hurt.

I agreethat it should be legal as long as no one is hurt. I still don't think people should do it or judge a whole religion based on a few nut jobs.

Unless they stole the books they have put money in Muslim hands... which would seem counterproductive.

With that money, Muslims can buy a Bible and burn it too. That way, the exchange is fair and the economy improves. BIG PICTURE, GUYS!

Hmm... was the reason the Nazi's reinvigorated the German economy down to a sudden boom in the book industry?

I doubt it...it would have been very difficult for them to burn 3/4 of the bible. Hitler was Christian.
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
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7/30/2010 11:35:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:33:37 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:31:57 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:29:51 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:22:13 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:20:05 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:18:51 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
There are better ways to make a stand than burning books, which comes across as bigotry. Still so long as no one is being hurt.

I agreethat it should be legal as long as no one is hurt. I still don't think people should do it or judge a whole religion based on a few nut jobs.

Unless they stole the books they have put money in Muslim hands... which would seem counterproductive.

With that money, Muslims can buy a Bible and burn it too. That way, the exchange is fair and the economy improves. BIG PICTURE, GUYS!

Hmm... was the reason the Nazi's reinvigorated the German economy down to a sudden boom in the book industry?

I doubt it...it would have been very difficult for them to burn 3/4 of the bible. Hitler was Christian.

What about all the Jewish books.... I mean all the Jewish books apart from the bible that is.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/30/2010 11:39:25 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:35:22 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
What about all the Jewish books.... I mean all the Jewish books apart from the bible that is.

Well, I think the nazis kind of just *took* them, instead of buying them. Unless they got haggled down into actually buying them before they burnt them...
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
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7/30/2010 11:41:25 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:39:25 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:35:22 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
What about all the Jewish books.... I mean all the Jewish books apart from the bible that is.

Well, I think the nazis kind of just *took* them, instead of buying them. Unless they got haggled down into actually buying them before they burnt them...

I am beginning to think the Nazi's were mean.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/30/2010 11:43:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:41:25 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
I am beginning to think the Nazi's were mean.

I'm not really one to judge, I like to say they were misunderstood and that with better communication, they could have settled things in a more professional and genial way.
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
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7/30/2010 11:45:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:43:09 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:41:25 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
I am beginning to think the Nazi's were mean.

I'm not really one to judge, I like to say they were misunderstood and that with better communication, they could have settled things in a more professional and genial way.

I was trying to be funny... I am not actually a nazi sympathiser.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/30/2010 11:48:06 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:45:47 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:43:09 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:41:25 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
I am beginning to think the Nazi's were mean.

I'm not really one to judge, I like to say they were misunderstood and that with better communication, they could have settled things in a more professional and genial way.

I was trying to be funny... I am not actually a nazi sympathiser.

I was also trying to be funny. I'm not actually a neutral sort of office mediator XD The Nazis were horrible, horrible people!
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
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7/30/2010 11:50:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:48:06 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:45:47 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:43:09 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:41:25 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
I am beginning to think the Nazi's were mean.

I'm not really one to judge, I like to say they were misunderstood and that with better communication, they could have settled things in a more professional and genial way.

I was trying to be funny... I am not actually a nazi sympathiser.

I was also trying to be funny. I'm not actually a neutral sort of office mediator XD The Nazis were horrible, horrible people!

But snappy dressers, thats got to count for something?
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/30/2010 11:54:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:50:13 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:48:06 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:45:47 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:43:09 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:41:25 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
I am beginning to think the Nazi's were mean.

I'm not really one to judge, I like to say they were misunderstood and that with better communication, they could have settled things in a more professional and genial way.

I was trying to be funny... I am not actually a nazi sympathiser.

I was also trying to be funny. I'm not actually a neutral sort of office mediator XD The Nazis were horrible, horrible people!

But snappy dressers, thats got to count for something?

Those boots. To die for.
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
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7/30/2010 11:58:46 PM
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A VERY good idea.

This isn't about burning books as the Nazis did, they were out to destroy opinion by destroying the books that offered it.

This is about sending a message of utter contempt of the principles that those who follow Islam abide by.

Hopefully it will catch on. It is also well chosen to be on 9/11 as it will be a de facto memorial to the thousands murdered by Islamic driven dogs.
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7/31/2010 12:00:42 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 11:58:46 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:
A VERY good idea.

This isn't about burning books as the Nazis did, they were out to destroy opinion by destroying the books that offered it.

This is about sending a message of utter contempt of the principles that those who follow Islam abide by.

Hopefully it will catch on. It is also well chosen to be on 9/11 as it will be a de facto memorial to the thousands murdered by Islamic driven dogs.

Should we also burn manuals on aviation as well? Islam had about as much influence on the tower attacks as aviation did.
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
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7/31/2010 1:00:11 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 12:00:42 AM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:58:46 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:
A VERY good idea.

This isn't about burning books as the Nazis did, they were out to destroy opinion by destroying the books that offered it.

This is about sending a message of utter contempt of the principles that those who follow Islam abide by.

Hopefully it will catch on. It is also well chosen to be on 9/11 as it will be a de facto memorial to the thousands murdered by Islamic driven dogs.

Should we also burn manuals on aviation as well? Islam had about as much influence on the tower attacks as aviation did.

Look who's making an appearance!
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7/31/2010 1:58:18 AM
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At 7/31/2010 12:00:42 AM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/30/2010 11:58:46 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:
A VERY good idea.

This isn't about burning books as the Nazis did, they were out to destroy opinion by destroying the books that offered it.

This is about sending a message of utter contempt of the principles that those who follow Islam abide by.

Hopefully it will catch on. It is also well chosen to be on 9/11 as it will be a de facto memorial to the thousands murdered by Islamic driven dogs.

Should we also burn manuals on aviation as well? Islam had about as much influence on the tower attacks as aviation did.

If you believe that then kindly give my regards to The Easter Bunny when you next see him.
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7/31/2010 8:50:49 AM
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At 7/31/2010 1:58:18 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
If you believe that then kindly give my regards to The Easter Bunny when you next see him.

You have a spectacular amount of unfounded intolerance for someone who is allegedly neither an American nor a New Yorker, such as myself, and a spectacular amount of ignorance for someone who's allegedly well educated and has served society for a good number of decades, if you truly believe that Islam deserves to be blamed for the tower attacks.
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
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7/31/2010 8:55:51 AM
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At 7/31/2010 8:50:49 AM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/31/2010 1:58:18 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
If you believe that then kindly give my regards to The Easter Bunny when you next see him.

You have a spectacular amount of unfounded intolerance for someone who is allegedly neither an American nor a New Yorker, such as myself, and a spectacular amount of ignorance for someone who's allegedly well educated and has served society for a good number of decades, if you truly believe that Islam deserves to be blamed for the tower attacks.

The people responsible used Islam to justify the attacks. Surely Islam, in the widest meaning of that word does bear some responsibility?
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/31/2010 9:01:09 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 8:50:49 AM, Kleptin wrote:
At 7/31/2010 1:58:18 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
If you believe that then kindly give my regards to The Easter Bunny when you next see him.

You have a spectacular amount of unfounded intolerance for someone who is allegedly neither an American nor a New Yorker, such as myself, and a spectacular amount of ignorance for someone who's allegedly well educated and has served society for a good number of decades, if you truly believe that Islam deserves to be blamed for the tower attacks.

So I have a spectacular amount of well-founded intolerance for someone who is neither an American nor a New Yorker such as yourself, and I must have a spectacular amount of ignorance for someone who's well educated and has served society for a good number of decades,

I truly believe that Islam deserves to be blamed for the tower attacks.

Don't bother trying to insult me, son.

I've been insulted by professionals and in the final analysis I could only be insulted by someone who I respect so YOU are wasting your time.
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7/31/2010 9:08:09 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 8:55:51 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
The people responsible used Islam to justify the attacks. Surely Islam, in the widest meaning of that word does bear some responsibility?

If I use a screwdriver to stab you in the stomach, who goes to jail? Me, or the screwdriver manufacturers?
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
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7/31/2010 9:14:51 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 9:01:09 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
I truly believe that Islam deserves to be blamed for the tower attacks.
Don't bother trying to insult me, son.
I've been insulted by professionals and in the final analysis I could only be insulted by someone who I respect so YOU are wasting your time.

Alright, professional. Let's assume that I'm the moron out of us two. I'm big enough to step that far back.

Given the fact that only a negligible fraction of the Islamic world actually finds some connection between the Qu'ran and flying planes into buildings, and given the fact that these people are extremists who the Islamic world considers rebels and deviants, how exactly do you justify the broad spectrum blame you're placing on all of Islam by advocating the burning of the Qu'ran?
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.