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4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
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4/29/2015 3:12:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

http://www.gaychristian101.com...
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4/29/2015 3:24:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 3:12:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

http://www.gaychristian101.com...

That's what men think, not what God and Christ think. It's their club, if the say no homosexuals, then no homosexuals it is, no man can gainsay that.

If society has moved away from God it is up to society to move back, it is not up to God to be dictated to by us.
LiberalProlifer
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4/29/2015 3:27:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 3:24:17 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:12:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

http://www.gaychristian101.com...

That's what men think, not what God and Christ think. It's their club, if the say no homosexuals, then no homosexuals it is, no man can gainsay that.

If society has moved away from God it is up to society to move back, it is not up to God to be dictated to by us.

No true Scotsman fallacy. Gays can be Christian.
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4/29/2015 3:32:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 3:27:00 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:24:17 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:12:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

http://www.gaychristian101.com...

That's what men think, not what God and Christ think. It's their club, if the say no homosexuals, then no homosexuals it is, no man can gainsay that.

If society has moved away from God it is up to society to move back, it is not up to God to be dictated to by us.

No true Scotsman fallacy. Gays can be Christian.

Why even start this thread if you're just going to argue like a child?
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4/29/2015 3:32:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

If your basis for believing that abortion is murder is a strict and literal reading of the Ten Commandments, then you'd also have to conclude that homosexuality is expressly forbidden in Christianity because you're applying a model of biblical interpretation that does not consider secular ethics in deciding what parts of the Bible to follow. The ban on gay sex appears in both the OT and NT.
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4/29/2015 3:36:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 3:32:34 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:27:00 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:24:17 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:12:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

http://www.gaychristian101.com...

That's what men think, not what God and Christ think. It's their club, if the say no homosexuals, then no homosexuals it is, no man can gainsay that.

If society has moved away from God it is up to society to move back, it is not up to God to be dictated to by us.

No true Scotsman fallacy. Gays can be Christian.

Why even start this thread if you're just going to argue like a child?

You need to debate the facts. That website I presented is full of proof that gays can be Christian. To say that no true Christian would ever be gay is the no true Scotsman fallacy. I am a bisexual Christian.
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4/29/2015 3:38:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 3:27:00 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:24:17 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:12:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

http://www.gaychristian101.com...

That's what men think, not what God and Christ think. It's their club, if the say no homosexuals, then no homosexuals it is, no man can gainsay that.

If society has moved away from God it is up to society to move back, it is not up to God to be dictated to by us.

No true Scotsman fallacy. Gays can be Christian.

Like I said, not according to God, Christ and the Apostles, simple as.
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4/29/2015 3:41:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 3:32:39 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

If your basis for believing that abortion is murder is a strict and literal reading of the Ten Commandments, then you'd also have to conclude that homosexuality is expressly forbidden in Christianity because you're applying a model of biblical interpretation that does not consider secular ethics in deciding what parts of the Bible to follow. The ban on gay sex appears in both the OT and NT.

It is.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Those are the rules and they have never changed.

No man can change them.

To Jehovah and his son there is only one sin - disobedience to law or principle.
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4/29/2015 3:47:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 3:36:35 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:32:34 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:27:00 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:24:17 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:12:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

http://www.gaychristian101.com...

That's what men think, not what God and Christ think. It's their club, if the say no homosexuals, then no homosexuals it is, no man can gainsay that.

If society has moved away from God it is up to society to move back, it is not up to God to be dictated to by us.

No true Scotsman fallacy. Gays can be Christian.

Why even start this thread if you're just going to argue like a child?

You need to debate the facts. That website I presented is full of proof that gays can be Christian. To say that no true Christian would ever be gay is the no true Scotsman fallacy. I am a bisexual Christian.

It may be according to you, but the not according to Christ.

We do not tell Christ who he accepts, he tells us, and the rules have never changed, nor will they ever.

There is no proof of that.

There is plenty of proof that they can call themselves Christian.

There is plenty of proof that they can pretend to be Christian.

But Christ won't accept them even if humans will, so what's the point, they are only fooling themselves.

Lot's of people who shouldn't call themselves Christian do, but Christ won't recognise them so they are wasting their time.
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4/29/2015 4:33:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

To be honest, I believe in god and all, but I think if you are gay/bisexual you can still love god and want to have a relationship with him. Your human, just like anyone else.
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4/29/2015 4:35:36 PM
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Here is what the Pope said. He is the head of 1 billion Catholics.

"If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?" Francis said in a wide-ranging news conference aboard the papal plane.
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4/29/2015 4:40:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 3:24:17 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:12:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

http://www.gaychristian101.com...

That's what men think, not what God and Christ think. It's their club, if the say no homosexuals, then no homosexuals it is, no man can gainsay that.

If society has moved away from God it is up to society to move back, it is not up to God to be dictated to by us.

But you think that's what God thinks. Your thinking process (being a Christian) is no greater than LiberalProfiler's, less, actually. What happened to love your neighbor, and accepting others for who they are? Also, what if the Bible was not written by God, but is just man's flimsy interpretation of God?
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4/29/2015 4:46:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 4:40:28 PM, Pase66 wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:24:17 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:12:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

http://www.gaychristian101.com...

That's what men think, not what God and Christ think. It's their club, if the say no homosexuals, then no homosexuals it is, no man can gainsay that.

If society has moved away from God it is up to society to move back, it is not up to God to be dictated to by us.

But you think that's what God thinks. Your thinking process (being a Christian) is no greater than LiberalProfiler's, less, actually. What happened to love your neighbor, and accepting others for who they are? Also, what if the Bible was not written by God, but is just man's flimsy interpretation of God?

The fate of disfellowshipped JW members is even worse. Unless reinstated they will suffer everlasting damnation.

"(3)"Disfellowshiping means the casting of a member out of Gods household; and if one should remain in this disfellowshiped condition till he died, it would mean his everlasting destruction as a person who is rejected by God. Staying away from meetings leads in that very direction." Watchtower 1965 Dec 15 p.751"
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4/29/2015 4:58:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Can't gays just affirm their faith and be saved? I sense a contradiction in the Bible.
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4/29/2015 6:06:09 PM
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At 4/29/2015 4:33:06 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

To be honest, I believe in god and all, but I think if you are gay/bisexual you can still love god and want to have a relationship with him. Your human, just like anyone else.

Thaml you. I agree.
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4/29/2015 6:42:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 3:41:47 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:32:39 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

If your basis for believing that abortion is murder is a strict and literal reading of the Ten Commandments, then you'd also have to conclude that homosexuality is expressly forbidden in Christianity because you're applying a model of biblical interpretation that does not consider secular ethics in deciding what parts of the Bible to follow. The ban on gay sex appears in both the OT and NT.

It is.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Those are the rules and they have never changed.

No man can change them.

To Jehovah and his son there is only one sin - disobedience to law or principle.

So women cant be Christians? No "Abusers of themselves with men" or effeminate. Hmm..... Looks like only straight men can be christian. Sorry folks.
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4/29/2015 6:51:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

This should be read, "Can sinners be Christian?"
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4/29/2015 6:54:07 PM
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At 4/29/2015 4:58:44 PM, debate_power wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Can't gays just affirm their faith and be saved? I sense a contradiction in the Bible.

What?! A contradiction in the Bible!!??
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4/29/2015 7:35:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 3:36:35 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:32:34 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:27:00 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:24:17 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:12:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

http://www.gaychristian101.com...

That's what men think, not what God and Christ think. It's their club, if the say no homosexuals, then no homosexuals it is, no man can gainsay that.

If society has moved away from God it is up to society to move back, it is not up to God to be dictated to by us.

No true Scotsman fallacy. Gays can be Christian.

Why even start this thread if you're just going to argue like a child?

You need to debate the facts. That website I presented is full of proof that gays can be Christian. To say that no true Christian would ever be gay is the no true Scotsman fallacy. I am a bisexual Christian.

You need to debate. We've been over this before, you can't just post a URL to a website and call that an argument. You have to take from the source as a citation, not a replacement FOR YOUR OWN DAMN WORDS. See what MCB is doing? He cites the bible then gives commentary/context in his own words. His source supports his argument, all you do is say "debate the facts" and post a an obviously biased web site with it's own interpretation of the bible. Give us the information, don't expect us to wade through an entire website. People are here to debate YOU not a friggin website. Also by calling" fallacy" as if that invalidates the argument, like with your no true scotsman fallacy, you're committing the fallacy fallacy.
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4/29/2015 10:38:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. : :

No flesh will inherit the Kingdom of God because it's of this world that will be destroyed soon.

Galations 5:
19: Now the works of the flesh are plain: fornication, impurity, licentiousness,
20: idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, party spirit,
21: envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Revelation 19
17: Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly in midheaven, "Come, gather for the great supper of God,
18: to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave, both small and great."
19: And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who sits upon the horse and against his army.
20: And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had worked the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulphur.
21: And the rest were slain by the sword of him who sits upon the horse, the sword that issues from his mouth; and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.

Genesis 6
17: For behold, I will bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life from under heaven; everything that is on the earth shall die.

All flesh was designed by our Creator to be sinners. The wages of sin is death so all flesh will perish during this first age. Only the spirit of man remains in the spirit of God where he was born.
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4/30/2015 12:23:20 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

No, gay's cannot be Christians and Christians cannot be gay. Why do you think God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah?

Being gay is not okay according to The Most High God and Christ.

1 Corinthians 6: 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

You reject the Word of God and instead follow and listen to man, you have been deceived and you hate God because you love the world and worldly things.

1 John 2:15-16 [15] Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

[16] For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
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4/30/2015 1:17:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 3:24:17 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 3:12:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

http://www.gaychristian101.com...

That's what men think, not what God and Christ think. It's their club, if the say no homosexuals, then no homosexuals it is, no man can gainsay that.

If society has moved away from God it is up to society to move back, it is not up to God to be dictated to by us.

Everything in your great book of spells is what men think.
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4/30/2015 1:22:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/30/2015 12:23:20 AM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
Why do you think God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah?

Go on. Tell us why, with supporting citations from your holy book.
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4/30/2015 4:58:46 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

Of course. Why not?
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4/30/2015 8:56:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 4:58:44 PM, debate_power wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Can't gays just affirm their faith and be saved? I sense a contradiction in the Bible.

Only if they cease practising what the bible shows is serious sin.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye were washed, but ye were sanctified, but ye were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God.

They operative part of that scripture is that it is what some of them were, but are no longer.

However, they have to profess the right faith, not one of Satan's counterfeits

The point is, who do you want to be acceptable to?

Some preacher who is going against all that God teaches through his son and the Apostles?

Or Christ himself.

If you want the latter you cannot achieve it and be a practising homosexual.

Any more than you can achieve it and be a practising heterosexual outside of the bond of marriage.

God isn't just anti-gay, he is anti-sinners of all sorts, and eh ash laid the rules down for all to see.

The sad p[art is that it isn't that hard to do, and if you make a genuine effort Christ will arrange help for you.

It's a win win situation, whereas giving in to your impulses is lose lose.

In the end it is all about self control.
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4/30/2015 9:28:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Being Christian and inheriting the kingdom of God are two different things. Or are you stating that an individual can not recieve the title of Christian until he is in compliance of the moral code required to gain acceptance to heaven?

If that were the case people would flip flop between being Christian and nit being one as they sinned and then gained forgiveness for the sin.
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4/30/2015 9:54:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/30/2015 9:28:00 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Being Christian and inheriting the kingdom of God are two different things. Or are you stating that an individual can not recieve the title of Christian until he is in compliance of the moral code required to gain acceptance to heaven?

If that were the case people would flip flop between being Christian and nit being one as they sinned and then gained forgiveness for the sin.

No they are not.

If you are a true Christian, then you will inherit the KLingdom of God, wheter as a ruler or a subject.

If you are not a true Christian, then you will not survive Armageddon, simple as.

Christianity is not the social club that so many millions use it as, it ia a way of life with rules and regulations.

All true Christians strive to follow them.

All true Christian do the will of Christ's father - Matthew 7:21-23.

That means all true Christians share the faith held by Christ and the Apostles with others.

All true Christians know the Father by name, Jehovah, and like their leader, help others to know it, and to know him. - John 17:6

All true Christians understand that the terms Father and Son are not purely nominal, they are real and apply.

All true Christians do,a s the Apostles did, recognise the Father, Jehovah, as the source of our salvation, and his son, the Christ as the means by which it became possible.

All true Christians recognise the necessity of obedience to the few rules and regulations as expressed in Acts 15:28,29, and expanded on at 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.

If you aren't a true Christian, you won;t pass the judgement and your eternal life will be lost to you.

If you want to play at being a Christian, fine, but don't expect Christ to smile on you. He won't.
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4/30/2015 9:59:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/30/2015 9:28:00 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:52:26 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/29/2015 2:42:41 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I say yes. I am a bisexual Christian.

God, Christ and the Apostles say no.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
ASV(i) 9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


If that were the case people would flip flop between being Christian and nit being one as they sinned and then gained forgiveness for the sin.

I thought I would answer this one separately.

Do you not realise that Jehovah and his son the Christ are not aware of that?

Deliberate lip-flopping between the the true and the false will not be allowed.

True, if it is nothing more than a moment of weakness, you can get back on course and you will be accepted back like the Prodigal son (or daughter) you are.

But if you think you can "play the system" and get away with it, it won;t work, because God and Christ will both know what you are doing, and you will fail. Even if you get accepted back into his earthly fold, you won't survive the judgement.

You can fool the humans, but you cannot fool God or Christ.