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Why Muhammad's Islam is doomed in the West

celestialtorahteacher
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5/5/2015 3:40:16 AM
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Muhammadism is its own worst enemy. The more it exposes Muhammad's violent dictatorship and totalitarian social organization goals the less Westerners tolerate this religion of permanent warfare against non-Muslims. One notices the violent Muhammadans are ones who get their educations in Western schools as Islamic nations provide zip intellectual learning conditions. One also notices the world arms sellers quite happy to see ISIS creating a new wave of warfare requiring armament sales. One questions even if radical Islamists aren't being fed their lines and their arms requirements by the very same people supposed to be protecting us from these extremists.

But it isn't just the violence that stops Muhammad's Islam from being accepted in the West. It's Muhammad's character that Westerners cannot find anything praiseworthy, especially Muhammad's child abuse that right there eliminates Muhammad as an idol to idolize anymore than one does a cartoon of a prophet.
ethang5
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5/5/2015 8:12:41 AM
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At 5/5/2015 3:40:16 AM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
Muhammadism is its own worst enemy. The more it exposes Muhammad's violent dictatorship and totalitarian social organization goals the less Westerners tolerate this religion of permanent warfare against non-Muslims. One notices the violent Muhammadans are ones who get their educations in Western schools as Islamic nations provide zip intellectual learning conditions. One also notices the world arms sellers quite happy to see ISIS creating a new wave of warfare requiring armament sales. One questions even if radical Islamists aren't being fed their lines and their arms requirements by the very same people supposed to be protecting us from these extremists.

But it isn't just the violence that stops Muhammad's Islam from being accepted in the West. It's Muhammad's character that Westerners cannot find anything praiseworthy, especially Muhammad's child abuse that right there eliminates Muhammad as an idol to idolize anymore than one does a cartoon of a prophet.

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Well said
DanneJeRusse
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5/5/2015 9:22:57 AM
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"(Ed) Miliband says he will make Islamophobia a serious crime to be prosecuted by the full might of the state. Flushed with self-righteous zeal, Miliband wants to ensure that the offence "is marked on people"s records with the police to make sure they root out Islamophobia as a hate crime.

In the name of tolerance, Labour wants to impose a form of totalitarianism, making a mockery of the concept of free speech. Like so many socialist policies, Miliband"s plan conjures up the dark, Orwellian world of the Thought Police, where all citizens are required to obey the ruling orthodoxy."

http://www.express.co.uk...
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celestialtorahteacher
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5/6/2015 8:56:06 PM
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We need to make a clear distinction between peace-loving Muslims and Muhammadans who are not. The Ahmadiyyah Muslims are truly worshipers of God as Peace while Sunni and Shia worshipers surrender their souls and morality to a religious dictator and his religion of permanent war against all who don't obey the dictator even though he's been dead for 1400 years. Muhammad's Ghost still rules from the grave to cause all sorts of trouble for Muhammadans in our times as Muhammadanism is ancient oriental despotism that went out of style in modern nations switching to democracy and human rights protection instead of allegiance to fascist ideologies in religious form.
celestialtorahteacher
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5/6/2015 9:01:24 PM
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Weak people seek Authority Figures to tell them how to think and act and that's what Muhammadism rides on, weak people, economically and educationally deprived populations. That's why Islam doesn't appeal to Westerners who have learned the hard way what happens when you turn over society to Strong Men using strong arm methods of ruling. People die. Usually lot's of people, lot's of innocent people..
RuvDraba
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5/6/2015 9:30:25 PM
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At 5/5/2015 3:40:16 AM, celestialtorahteacher wrote:
it isn't just the violence that stops Muhammad's Islam from being accepted in the West. It's Muhammad's character that Westerners cannot find anything praiseworthy

Islam's initial success derives largely from Arab expansionism, followed by Persian and Turkish imperialism. Later success (in places such as Indonesia) derived from trade, royal conversions and further conquest.

This is not terribly different from the earlier success of Christianity. Any religion can spread by conquest, but monotheism has seemed particularly attractive to struggling autocrats at times.

I don't think Islam's limited success in Atlantic civilisations is attributable to anything more than the fact that there already were monotheistic beliefs, and Muslim empires attained only limited conquest in those places.
celestialtorahteacher
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5/7/2015 6:53:24 AM
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No, I disagree. Muhammadism is literally locked into fundamentalist mentality and unlike Judaism or Christianity seems highly resistant to social reform. Westerners are more experienced in democratic and human rights protection having had to go up against both religious and secular dictatorial mono-cultures. Nature and God seem unable to back up monocultures of which monotheism is one with the same problems as they all have: lack of variety only insures lack of adaptability of changing social conditions which is why religions and civilizations die out, become extinct like dinosaurs who didn't evolve wings to get them off the ground when tsunamis hit 65 million years ago. Judaism is still cursed with racist ideology in the form of Zionism which will do in Judaism as it already has for ethical Jews abandoning bad religious teachings. Pauline Christianity changes but is highly vulnerable to political influences as Paul set that curse on all Pauline Christianity by commanding Christians to obey whatever gangster in royal costume or presidential attire told them to do, so Pauline Christianity too is doomed to its End Times.

Only Gnostic Christianity remains untouched by the fall of Bible belief for intellectuals and it is always intellectuals who keep any faith going. Once the head has been removed, the body will eventually fall. Physically, the head of Abrahamic religious warfare is seen in the Israel/Palestine confrontation that began the current religious warfare between Judaism, Pauline Christianity and Muhammadism.
ethang5
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5/11/2015 1:56:28 PM
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At 5/5/2015 9:22:57 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
"(Ed) Miliband says he will make Islamophobia a serious crime to be prosecuted by the full might of the state. Flushed with self-righteous zeal, Miliband wants to ensure that the offence "is marked on people"s records with the police to make sure they root out Islamophobia as a hate crime.

In the name of tolerance, Labour wants to impose a form of totalitarianism, making a mockery of the concept of free speech. Like so many socialist policies, Miliband"s plan conjures up the dark, Orwellian world of the Thought Police, where all citizens are required to obey the ruling orthodoxy."

http://www.express.co.uk...

All liberals want an "Orwellian world of the Thought Police" in some form or another. They just call it by a different name.