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Enough With the Semantic Arguments

Nicoszon_the_Great
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5/27/2015 2:58:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
We've all heard the points about 'atheist' and 'agnostic'

Can we stop? If someone says they're an atheist who's open to new arguements there is NO BLOODY POINT to derail the whole thread with "Well actually, that means you're an agnostic!"

So many honest discussions on this site have been derailed by this utterly retarded conflation of semantics, just drop it.
joetheripper117
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5/27/2015 9:25:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/27/2015 2:58:11 PM, Nicoszon_the_Great wrote:
We've all heard the points about 'atheist' and 'agnostic'

Can we stop? If someone says they're an atheist who's open to new arguements there is NO BLOODY POINT to derail the whole thread with "Well actually, that means you're an agnostic!"

So many honest discussions on this site have been derailed by this utterly retarded conflation of semantics, just drop it.
You can be both an atheist and an agnostic. Atheism vs. theism is about your view on whether or not a God exists. Agnosticism vs. Gnosticism is about your certainty about your position.
"By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out."
-Richard Dawkins
"The onus is on you to say why; the onus is not on the rest of us to say why not."
-Richard Dawkins
Ramshutu
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5/28/2015 1:54:24 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/27/2015 2:58:11 PM, Nicoszon_the_Great wrote:
We've all heard the points about 'atheist' and 'agnostic'

Can we stop? If someone says they're an atheist who's open to new arguements there is NO BLOODY POINT to derail the whole thread with "Well actually, that means you're an agnostic!"

So many honest discussions on this site have been derailed by this utterly retarded conflation of semantics, just drop it.

Conflating the two terms makes you an idiot, not retarded.
POPOO5560
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5/28/2015 2:05:56 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Nicoszon_the_Great your profile says u r an athiest so well actually that means you're an agnostic!
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RuvDraba
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5/28/2015 2:17:35 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/27/2015 2:58:11 PM, Nicoszon_the_Great wrote:
We've all heard the points about 'atheist' and 'agnostic'
Can we stop? If someone says they're an atheist who's open to new arguements there is NO BLOODY POINT to derail the whole thread with "Well actually, that means you're an agnostic!"
So many honest discussions on this site have been derailed by this utterly retarded conflation of semantics, just drop it.
It makes perfect sense to say you're atheistic, but cosmogenically agnostic. There's chasm between 'something created the universe' and 'I must worship it'. The religious often fling themselves across the gap without realising they've leapt it.

A leap of faith, or ignorance tripping over its own feet?

Perhaps that's not mine to say. :)