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JJ50
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6/2/2015 10:09:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

How sick is that!
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6/2/2015 11:39:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/2/2015 10:09:25 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

How sick is that!

Not nearly as sick and twisted as the haggard queen whom sits well with consequences to murdering princess Diana.
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6/2/2015 7:10:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

It is obvious that this guy is awful, but in Christian's defense, I do not exactly see many of them supporting his actions.
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6/2/2015 7:15:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

I think it's also a scandal that the author (journalist?) of this piece wrote such an impenetrable article. I read it several times and am still no wiser as to exactly what is being reported.
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6/3/2015 1:44:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

God gets more angry at two consenting adults of the same sex having sex and getting married than child molestation.

I have heard numerous times some man of God (piece of sh*t human being) claim that Gods wrath in the form of natural disasters is the result divine punishment over gays and gay related activity.

Not so much when it comes to child molestation.
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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6/3/2015 4:32:52 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

It's not Christians, DHardage, but God.

God can forgive Christians statutory rape, but cannot tolerate the world's 67% of unbelievers, no matter how virtuous.

Who says?

Well, Christians do, but they should know, right? It's their God.
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6/3/2015 6:28:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/3/2015 4:32:52 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

It's not Christians, DHardage, but God.

God can forgive Christians statutory rape, but cannot tolerate the world's 67% of unbelievers, no matter how virtuous.

Who says?

Well, Christians do, but they should know, right? It's their God.

Some extreme Christians no doubt, but not all of them!!
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6/3/2015 7:01:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/3/2015 6:28:38 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 6/3/2015 4:32:52 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.
It's not Christians, DHardage, but God.
God can forgive Christians statutory rape, but cannot tolerate the world's 67% of unbelievers, no matter how virtuous.
Who says?
Well, Christians do, but they should know, right? It's their God.
Some extreme Christians no doubt, but not all of them!!

Sadly, the Nicene Creed is the oldest and most widely-accepted Christian creed, JJ, and it pretty much insists that Jesus is the sole saviour of the world [http://en.wikipedia.org...]: you need a Christ, there's only one, and it's Jesus of Nazareth.

Most Christians, I think, would assert that God can forgive most anything, and most people recognised as Christian believe you can't know or please God save through Jesus.

So yep -- I expect it's not really intended, but an unavoidable implication is that God is happier with a Christian incest-child-rapist than with a pacifist, vegetarian, virgin Buddhist nun.

But this isn't Christian religious bigotry, right? It's God's. Can't be helped.

Although some humour is unavoidable in response, I'm not posting this to mock so much as to express rue and dismay that, while Christian morality has developed a great deal through the Enlightenment, there still seems such a long way to go.
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6/5/2015 1:39:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

I do not see what you are talking about. Nobody is "defending" or "tolerating" what was done.
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6/5/2015 1:40:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/3/2015 1:44:29 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

God gets more angry at two consenting adults of the same sex having sex and getting married than child molestation.

You made that one up.
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6/5/2015 1:52:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 1:39:28 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

I do not see what you are talking about. Nobody is "defending" or "tolerating" what was done.

They waited 16 months to report it to authorities and the let it happen a total of 3 times. They say he 'was forgiven by God' but were somehow too negligent to repot it to secular authorities. That's tolerating and defending an act I find truly disturbing and requiring professional help for a child at that age. They acted improperly and immorally and I feel the probably violated the law as well if someone really wanted to prosecute.
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6/5/2015 2:51:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 1:52:46 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 1:39:28 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

I do not see what you are talking about. Nobody is "defending" or "tolerating" what was done.

They waited 16 months to report it to authorities and the let it happen a total of 3 times. They say he 'was forgiven by God' but were somehow too negligent to repot it to secular authorities. That's tolerating and defending an act I find truly disturbing and requiring professional help for a child at that age. They acted improperly and immorally and I feel the probably violated the law as well if someone really wanted to prosecute.

I didn't see that in the article that you chose to reference. In fact, it's a poorly-written article that says almost nothing.
Madcornishbiker: "No, I don't need a dictionary, I know how scripture uses words and that is all I need to now."
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6/5/2015 2:55:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 2:51:16 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/5/2015 1:52:46 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 1:39:28 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

I do not see what you are talking about. Nobody is "defending" or "tolerating" what was done.

They waited 16 months to report it to authorities and the let it happen a total of 3 times. They say he 'was forgiven by God' but were somehow too negligent to repot it to secular authorities. That's tolerating and defending an act I find truly disturbing and requiring professional help for a child at that age. They acted improperly and immorally and I feel the probably violated the law as well if someone really wanted to prosecute.

I didn't see that in the article that you chose to reference. In fact, it's a poorly-written article that says almost nothing.

It's all over the web. Just look.
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6/5/2015 3:07:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

The problem with the Duggar Scandal is that it's politically charged. Josh Duggar was a literal spokesperson for the Christian Conservative movement.
Naturally, Liberals and Atheists would use this guy's moral failures and use it to make Christian Conservatives look bad. As a result, Christian Conservatives responded by defending him, as the attacks on Jush Duggar were simultaneously an attack against them.
The best way for this issue to have been handled was for it to not have been politicized in the first place. Had Liberals not used it as a platform for attack and had Conservatives distanced themselves from Josh Duggar, the issue could've just died quietly.
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6/5/2015 3:12:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 3:07:09 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

The problem with the Duggar Scandal is that it's politically charged. Josh Duggar was a literal spokesperson for the Christian Conservative movement.
Naturally, Liberals and Atheists would use this guy's moral failures and use it to make Christian Conservatives look bad. As a result, Christian Conservatives responded by defending him, as the attacks on Jush Duggar were simultaneously an attack against them.
The best way for this issue to have been handled was for it to not have been politicized in the first place. Had Liberals not used it as a platform for attack and had Conservatives distanced themselves from Josh Duggar, the issue could've just died quietly.

Ah, just let it die quietly, ignore the fact that a man running a Christian ministry for young people is a known child molester and no one that has known for years bothered to suggest that he stay away from such places. Sure, let's let it die quietly.
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6/5/2015 3:14:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 3:12:41 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 3:07:09 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

The problem with the Duggar Scandal is that it's politically charged. Josh Duggar was a literal spokesperson for the Christian Conservative movement.
Naturally, Liberals and Atheists would use this guy's moral failures and use it to make Christian Conservatives look bad. As a result, Christian Conservatives responded by defending him, as the attacks on Jush Duggar were simultaneously an attack against them.
The best way for this issue to have been handled was for it to not have been politicized in the first place. Had Liberals not used it as a platform for attack and had Conservatives distanced themselves from Josh Duggar, the issue could've just died quietly.

Ah, just let it die quietly, ignore the fact that a man running a Christian ministry for young people is a known child molester and no one that has known for years bothered to suggest that he stay away from such places. Sure, let's let it die quietly.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Then again, I cannot blame you, as I've done it myself. It's just in our nature to attack the opposition.
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6/5/2015 3:15:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I mean, let's be frank. There's virtually nothing productive about this thread. It's just a platform for mocking Conservative Christians.
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6/5/2015 3:17:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 3:15:36 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I mean, let's be frank. There's virtually nothing productive about this thread. It's just a platform for mocking Conservative Christians.

Feel free to leave it then. No one is forcing you to comment.
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6/5/2015 3:23:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 2:55:12 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 2:51:16 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/5/2015 1:52:46 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 1:39:28 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

I do not see what you are talking about. Nobody is "defending" or "tolerating" what was done.

They waited 16 months to report it to authorities and the let it happen a total of 3 times. They say he 'was forgiven by God' but were somehow too negligent to repot it to secular authorities. That's tolerating and defending an act I find truly disturbing and requiring professional help for a child at that age. They acted improperly and immorally and I feel the probably violated the law as well if someone really wanted to prosecute.

I didn't see that in the article that you chose to reference. In fact, it's a poorly-written article that says almost nothing.

It's all over the web. Just look.

I haven't paid the least bit of attention to it. I only read the article that you referenced.
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6/5/2015 3:24:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 3:17:46 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 3:15:36 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I mean, let's be frank. There's virtually nothing productive about this thread. It's just a platform for mocking Conservative Christians.

Feel free to leave it then. No one is forcing you to comment.

I have a bad habit of being drawn to threads and articles that I find insulting.
Call me Vox, the Resident Contrarian of debate.org.

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6/5/2015 3:24:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 3:23:04 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/5/2015 2:55:12 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 2:51:16 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/5/2015 1:52:46 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 1:39:28 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

I do not see what you are talking about. Nobody is "defending" or "tolerating" what was done.

They waited 16 months to report it to authorities and the let it happen a total of 3 times. They say he 'was forgiven by God' but were somehow too negligent to repot it to secular authorities. That's tolerating and defending an act I find truly disturbing and requiring professional help for a child at that age. They acted improperly and immorally and I feel the probably violated the law as well if someone really wanted to prosecute.

I didn't see that in the article that you chose to reference. In fact, it's a poorly-written article that says almost nothing.

It's all over the web. Just look.

I haven't paid the least bit of attention to it. I only read the article that you referenced.

Then you are uninformed and show a spectacular lack of curiosity. It's not even hard to find, just open your web browser and you'll find at least two articles, more if you actually search.
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6/5/2015 3:25:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 3:24:21 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/5/2015 3:17:46 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 3:15:36 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I mean, let's be frank. There's virtually nothing productive about this thread. It's just a platform for mocking Conservative Christians.

Feel free to leave it then. No one is forcing you to comment.

I have a bad habit of being drawn to threads and articles that I find insulting.

Have I somehow insulted you?
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6/5/2015 3:25:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 3:24:39 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 3:23:04 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/5/2015 2:55:12 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 2:51:16 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/5/2015 1:52:46 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 1:39:28 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

I do not see what you are talking about. Nobody is "defending" or "tolerating" what was done.

They waited 16 months to report it to authorities and the let it happen a total of 3 times. They say he 'was forgiven by God' but were somehow too negligent to repot it to secular authorities. That's tolerating and defending an act I find truly disturbing and requiring professional help for a child at that age. They acted improperly and immorally and I feel the probably violated the law as well if someone really wanted to prosecute.

I didn't see that in the article that you chose to reference. In fact, it's a poorly-written article that says almost nothing.

It's all over the web. Just look.

I haven't paid the least bit of attention to it. I only read the article that you referenced.

Then you are uninformed and show a spectacular lack of curiosity.

Bingo to both, especially the latter.
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6/5/2015 3:29:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 3:25:16 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 3:24:21 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/5/2015 3:17:46 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 3:15:36 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I mean, let's be frank. There's virtually nothing productive about this thread. It's just a platform for mocking Conservative Christians.

Feel free to leave it then. No one is forcing you to comment.

I have a bad habit of being drawn to threads and articles that I find insulting.

Have I somehow insulted you?

This thread is extremely inflammatory by nature, as is virtually every thread that you've ever made on DDO. And yes, I am usually made very angry by seeing your posts.
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6/5/2015 3:31:08 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 3:29:03 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/5/2015 3:25:16 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 3:24:21 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/5/2015 3:17:46 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 6/5/2015 3:15:36 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I mean, let's be frank. There's virtually nothing productive about this thread. It's just a platform for mocking Conservative Christians.

Feel free to leave it then. No one is forcing you to comment.

I have a bad habit of being drawn to threads and articles that I find insulting.

Have I somehow insulted you?

This thread is extremely inflammatory by nature, as is virtually every thread that you've ever made on DDO. And yes, I am usually made very angry by seeing your posts.

I'm sorry you feel that way. Feel free to ignore me as is your right. I ignore many others on this forum and it works out fine.
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6/5/2015 4:25:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

I disagree. No Christian has argued that what Duggar did was right. All including the Duggars agree that what he did was wrong, the problem is how big a deal is being made of it. One almost gets the impression the crime was committed by Josh this year.
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6/5/2015 4:48:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 4:25:13 PM, Iredia wrote:
At 6/2/2015 9:37:46 AM, dhardage wrote:
but it seems many Christians can tolerate anything so long as it's done by their own people.

http://www.inquisitr.com...

I disagree. No Christian has argued that what Duggar did was right. All including the Duggars agree that what he did was wrong, the problem is how big a deal is being made of it. One almost gets the impression the crime was committed by Josh this year.

What matters is they knew and they hid it from everyone.
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6/5/2015 5:18:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2015 4:48:00 PM, dhardage wrote:

What matters is they knew and they hid it from everyone.

Keeping it from the police for 16 months was wrong and I have no problems with that point. Not telling it on their show wasn't wrong for reasons that are obvious and playing out.
Porn babes be distracting me. Dudes be stealing me stuff. I'm all about the cash from now. I'm not playing Jesus anymore.