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8/11/2010 10:25:01 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I mean why cant he make himself more evident so its impossible to deny his existence all he would have to do is move a mountain or speak to us directly. Not too much to ask is it?
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8/11/2010 10:25:48 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:25:01 PM, PalinFan wrote:
Not too much to ask is it?

for God?

no, not really.
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

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8/11/2010 10:26:56 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Because he wants to weed out the non-believers so he can smite us! :P
I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
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8/11/2010 10:28:05 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Ahhh! Too many contradictions! It's a parody conservative Christian who is making a parody of Atheists!!
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-- Frederic Bastiat
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8/11/2010 10:30:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:28:05 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Ahhh! Too many contradictions! It's a parody conservative Christian who is making a parody of Atheists!!

wut?
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mattrodstrom
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8/11/2010 10:33:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:30:09 PM, PalinFan wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:28:05 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Ahhh! Too many contradictions! It's a parody conservative Christian who is making a parody of Atheists!!

wut?

they think you're a fake conservative, meant to parody conservatives.

so your parody of Atheists is like you're a triple agent.
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
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8/11/2010 10:35:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:33:34 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:30:09 PM, PalinFan wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:28:05 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Ahhh! Too many contradictions! It's a parody conservative Christian who is making a parody of Atheists!!

wut?

they think you're a fake conservative, meant to parody conservatives.

so your parody of Atheists is like you're a triple agent.

How can anything I have said in this forum be interrupted as parody?
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8/11/2010 10:37:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:33:34 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
they think you're a fake conservative, meant to parody conservatives.

No, he IS a face conservative.

From his profile:

"IM A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN, AND DONT YOU FORGET IT"

"Books: The Bible, Atlas Shrugged"

"Movies: Passion of the Christ, Fireproof"

"Quotes: "An Eye for an Eye, and a tooth for a tooth" - Ghandi"

so your parody of Atheists is like you're a triple agent.

Correct.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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8/11/2010 10:39:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:35:33 PM, PalinFan wrote:
How can anything I have said in this forum be interrupted as parody?

I don't know...

never thought anything could... though now that I think about it....

MOOOO!!!!

http://www.beastlair.com...
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
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8/11/2010 10:42:04 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:37:52 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:33:34 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
they think you're a fake conservative, meant to parody conservatives.

No, he IS a face conservative.

From his profile:

"IM A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN, AND DONT YOU FORGET IT"

"Books: The Bible, Atlas Shrugged"

"Movies: Passion of the Christ, Fireproof"

"Quotes: "An Eye for an Eye, and a tooth for a tooth" - Ghandi"



so your parody of Atheists is like you're a triple agent.

Correct.

1. I AM a Christian Conservative...don't forget it!
2. How am I parodying atheists?
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mattrodstrom
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8/11/2010 10:51:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:37:52 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
No, he IS a face conservative.

yeah... after checking it out...

I don't think 43 yr old conservatives from Kentucky are quite internet-hip enough for something like this.

http://www.debate.org...

I suppose with a little interrruption... it's pretty obvious what's goin on.
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
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8/11/2010 10:59:48 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:51:26 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:37:52 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
No, he IS a face conservative.

yeah... after checking it out...

I don't think 43 yr old conservatives from Kentucky are quite internet-hip enough for something like this.

http://www.debate.org...

I suppose with a little interrruption... it's pretty obvious what's goin on.

I don't post my real name, age or address online, on any site... no exceptions.
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8/11/2010 11:01:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:59:48 PM, PalinFan wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:51:26 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:37:52 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
No, he IS a face conservative.

yeah... after checking it out...

I don't think 43 yr old conservatives from Kentucky are quite internet-hip enough for something like this.

http://www.debate.org...

I suppose with a little interrruption... it's pretty obvious what's goin on.

I don't post my real name, age or email address online, on any site... no exceptions.

fix'd
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GeoLaureate8
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8/11/2010 11:03:30 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:59:48 PM, PalinFan wrote:
I don't post my real name, age or address online, on any site... no exceptions.

Fail. You're age doesn't reveal your exact birth date and the field that does reveal your exact birth date can be set to private.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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8/11/2010 11:05:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 11:03:30 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:59:48 PM, PalinFan wrote:
I don't post my real name, age or address online, on any site... no exceptions.

Fail. You're age doesn't reveal your exact birth date and the field that does reveal your exact birth date can be set to private.

Still not comfortable revealing that kind of info
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8/12/2010 2:36:26 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:25:01 PM, PalinFan wrote:
I mean why cant he make himself more evident so its impossible to deny his existence all he would have to do is move a mountain or speak to us directly. Not too much to ask is it?

but why should he?
and also, moving a mountain wont solve a thing. What would that imply?
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8/12/2010 10:37:39 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/12/2010 2:36:26 AM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:25:01 PM, PalinFan wrote:
I mean why cant he make himself more evident so its impossible to deny his existence all he would have to do is move a mountain or speak to us directly. Not too much to ask is it?

but why should he?
and also, moving a mountain wont solve a thing. What would that imply?

It would be undeniable proof that exists, and only believers go to heaven, so if he loves everyone he should show everyone one that he exists so they can all have eternal life.
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innomen
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8/12/2010 10:42:18 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:51:26 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:37:52 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
No, he IS a face conservative.

yeah... after checking it out...

I don't think 43 yr old conservatives from Kentucky are quite internet-hip enough for something like this.

http://www.debate.org...

I suppose with a little interrruption... it's pretty obvious what's goin on.

You're killing me.
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8/12/2010 10:42:32 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/12/2010 2:36:26 AM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:25:01 PM, PalinFan wrote:
I mean why cant he make himself more evident so its impossible to deny his existence all he would have to do is move a mountain or speak to us directly. Not too much to ask is it?

but why should he?
and also, moving a mountain wont solve a thing. What would that imply?

Because, as it is most people don't believe in him. They are either atheists or they have other religious beliefs.

So, to put an end to any uncertainty about who is the real boss, or if there's a boss at all, he should perform some miracles that would prove without doubt that he's the genuine article.

Moving a mountain wouldn't be good enough though; you have massive landslides, earthquakes and volcanoes happening all the time so I would suggest he does a few spectacular things that cannot be explained away:

1 - Write "Darwin was a wanker" on the moon in massive fiery letters;
2 - Build a tunnel through the centre of the Earth from England to Australia;
3 - Construct golden bridges from The Holy Land to every continent on the planet (except Antarctica, obviously);
4 - Appear in the skies over every land and sing:

I am the one and only,
Oh yeah!
Call me, call me by my name or call me by number,
You put me through it,
I'll still be doing it the way I do it,
And yet, you try to make me forget,
Who I really am, don't tell me, I know best,
I'm not the same as all the rest,

I am the one and only,
Nobody I'd rather be,
I am the one and only,
You can't take that away from me
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8/12/2010 10:42:43 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/12/2010 10:37:39 AM, PalinFan wrote:
I like your godsands signature.

http://www.google.com...
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
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8/12/2010 10:51:41 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:25:01 PM, PalinFan wrote:
I mean why cant he make himself more evident so its impossible to deny his existence all he would have to do is move a mountain or speak to us directly. Not too much to ask is it?:

Becasue there is no God... Or because it makes his existence more fun to toy with your emotions and use you as a voodoo doll.
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8/12/2010 11:39:08 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:25:01 PM, PalinFan wrote:
I mean why cant he make himself more evident so its impossible to deny his existence all he would have to do is move a mountain or speak to us directly. Not too much to ask is it?
The best is always the hardest to achieve. In God's sight, what is the best thing? To do good, and the best of good is praying to Him, which means thanking Him, acknowledging His existence, etc.

Do you get to be a billionaire in an instant? No. In order to be a billionaire (e.g. in U.S. currency), you need to strive extremely hard, and do lots of things to accomplish the goal. So, the highest goal in USA when it comes to money, and the hardest, but it also gives you perfect financial wealth. Similarly, out of all good things, believing in God is number one, and what is the thing with number one? you have to strive hard to get closer to it. It is not just about thinking of something and it comes out of the blue.
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8/12/2010 12:15:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:25:01 PM, PalinFan wrote:
I mean why cant he make himself more evident so its impossible to deny his existence all he would have to do is move a mountain or speak to us directly. Not too much to ask is it?

A fantastic question ! I've seen many mountains removed.
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8/12/2010 12:24:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/12/2010 11:39:08 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:25:01 PM, PalinFan wrote:
I mean why cant he make himself more evident so its impossible to deny his existence all he would have to do is move a mountain or speak to us directly. Not too much to ask is it?
The best is always the hardest to achieve. In God's sight, what is the best thing? To do good, and the best of good is praying to Him, which means thanking Him, acknowledging His existence, etc.:

So you either have to waste a considerable amount of time on your relatively short life by offering oblation to something that doesn't acknowledge you, or waste considerable amount of time on your relatively short life by offering oblation to something that isn't even there... Fantastic.

The point of the question is premised upon the notion of getting to a starting point. If there was ample evidence of God's existence, the original poster is hinting at, then there would be no problem in offering praise to God.
"Have you ever considered suicide? If not, please do." -- Mouthwash (to Inferno)
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8/12/2010 12:48:01 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/12/2010 12:24:54 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
So you either have to waste a considerable amount of time on your relatively short life by offering oblation to something that doesn't acknowledge you, or waste considerable amount of time on your relatively short life by offering oblation to something that isn't even there... Fantastic.

The point of the question is premised upon the notion of getting to a starting point. If there was ample evidence of God's existence, the original poster is hinting at, then there would be no problem in offering praise to God.
Have you noticed how incredibly many atheists act arrogantly when talking about God? So, my advise is to work on a better conduct and be more loving, and maybe you will get closer to God and actually realize that He exists. You cannot see the existence of God through glasses of arrogance.
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8/12/2010 1:50:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/11/2010 10:25:01 PM, PalinFan wrote:
I mean why cant he make himself more evident so its impossible to deny his existence all he would have to do is move a mountain or speak to us directly. Not too much to ask is it?

Because we do not want him too. The he designed the universe to be able for the supernatural to intrude upon it, it has its own laws to govern itself by on auto pilot. if the supernatural made a habit of interfering with the laws of nature then we would find it very abrasive. So one would expect God save the occasions for doing so for important ones like, delivering the Hebrews out of Egypt.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

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8/12/2010 2:12:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/12/2010 12:15:59 PM, the-good-teacher wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:25:01 PM, PalinFan wrote:
I mean why cant he make himself more evident so its impossible to deny his existence all he would have to do is move a mountain or speak to us directly. Not too much to ask is it?

A fantastic question ! I've seen many mountains removed.

By humans, I'm guessing? Otherwise, do tell us about the mountain you saw your god remove.
In the middle of moving to Washington. 8D

"If God does not exist, then chocolate causing cancer is only true for the society that has evidence for that." --GodSands
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8/12/2010 2:18:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/12/2010 2:12:54 PM, Yvette wrote:
At 8/12/2010 12:15:59 PM, the-good-teacher wrote:
At 8/11/2010 10:25:01 PM, PalinFan wrote:
I mean why cant he make himself more evident so its impossible to deny his existence all he would have to do is move a mountain or speak to us directly. Not too much to ask is it?

A fantastic question ! I've seen many mountains removed.

By humans, I'm guessing? Otherwise, do tell us about the mountain you saw your god remove.

Technically, since the continents are shifting all the time, we are always observing mountains move.