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7/3/2015 7:27:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 6:51:55 AM, Envisage wrote:
What would happen?

Nothing. Being immaterial he is not affected by gravity.

Come to think of it you couldn't even chuck him.

Come to think of it you couldn't even see him. Hmmm.
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7/3/2015 7:52:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 7:38:08 AM, JJ50 wrote:
Come to think of it the deity probably doesn't exist, LOL!

Either you are:
1. A troll
2. Mentally deficient

In either case you are a detriment to these forums. Please stop posting.
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7/3/2015 8:26:24 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 6:51:55 AM, Envisage wrote:
What would happen?

That depends, is it before or after we divide by zero ?
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7/3/2015 8:29:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 7:52:55 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 7/3/2015 7:38:08 AM, JJ50 wrote:
Come to think of it the deity probably doesn't exist, LOL!

Either you are:
1. A troll
2. Mentally deficient

In either case you are a detriment to these forums. Please stop posting.

And you have conclusive evidence the evil deity does exist? No I thought not!
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7/3/2015 8:30:36 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 6:51:55 AM, Envisage wrote:
What would happen?

Since God, and since you capitalize I assume you mean the God of Abraham, is most often defined as 'spiritual' and not 'physical', you could not even touch him, let along 'chuck' him into anything. He is not subject to the laws of the physical universe so even gravity would be meaningless to him.
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7/3/2015 8:34:57 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 6:51:55 AM, Envisage wrote:
What would happen?

We understand that when matter/energy gets chucked into a black hole, it loses all of it's properties except mass, charge and spin. If God maintains any of those properties, that's what will be left of Him, any other properties are squished out.
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7/3/2015 9:57:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 6:51:55 AM, Envisage wrote:
What would happen?

Chapter X

Enrique and Charles watched as God fell toward the inactive super massive black hole and disappeared from sight. Massive plasma jets from the rotational poles began spewing X-rays, radio waves and other radiation.

Enrigue threw his hands to his face," Madre de dios! What have we done?!" Charles marveled at the jets ejecting plasma into space noting,"These must be the largest ever witnessed." Enrique, for the first time in what seemed like forever, took his eyes from the phenomena and stared with exasperation at Charles. "Do you realized we have killed God?!"

"Yea, and the Christians are gonna be pissed!"

Chapter XX

God in darkness thought to himself how interesting dying had been...again. Then he said aloud,"Let there be light!"
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7/3/2015 10:14:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 6:51:55 AM, Envisage wrote:
What would happen?

You'd realize that an omnipresent God had always been there...
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7/3/2015 10:26:06 AM
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Someone else would have to be God. I nominate myself.
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7/3/2015 10:43:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 10:26:06 AM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
Someone else would have to be God. I nominate myself.

Sorry the post is already taken, by me, LOL!
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7/3/2015 10:49:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 10:14:10 AM, Geogeer wrote:
At 7/3/2015 6:51:55 AM, Envisage wrote:
What would happen?

You'd realize that an omnipresent God had always been there...

I am not even sure if that is a coherent thing to say about God.

The reason is that because if we assume a classical black hole, with infinite density and no volume, first we have a God which is nowhere (there is no volume to exist in), also the mass warps and infinitely curves space time, and you just have a bottomless well in space time with no bottom - and you are saying God is essentially at the bottom of a bottomless hole.

This is all assuming classical black hole models - presumably quantum gravity would eliminate these infinities like it did with electrodynamics.
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7/3/2015 10:57:15 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 10:49:51 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 7/3/2015 10:14:10 AM, Geogeer wrote:
At 7/3/2015 6:51:55 AM, Envisage wrote:
What would happen?

You'd realize that an omnipresent God had always been there...

I am not even sure if that is a coherent thing to say about God.

The reason is that because if we assume a classical black hole, with infinite density and no volume, first we have a God which is nowhere (there is no volume to exist in), also the mass warps and infinitely curves space time, and you just have a bottomless well in space time with no bottom - and you are saying God is essentially at the bottom of a bottomless hole.

This is all assuming classical black hole models - presumably quantum gravity would eliminate these infinities like it did with electrodynamics.

Since black holes exist within space-time, and God is present throughout all of space time, God is present in a black hole. And yes since God is infinite, He could be at the bottom of a bottomless hole.
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7/3/2015 11:02:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 10:57:15 AM, Geogeer wrote:
At 7/3/2015 10:49:51 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 7/3/2015 10:14:10 AM, Geogeer wrote:
At 7/3/2015 6:51:55 AM, Envisage wrote:
What would happen?

You'd realize that an omnipresent God had always been there...

I am not even sure if that is a coherent thing to say about God.

The reason is that because if we assume a classical black hole, with infinite density and no volume, first we have a God which is nowhere (there is no volume to exist in), also the mass warps and infinitely curves space time, and you just have a bottomless well in space time with no bottom - and you are saying God is essentially at the bottom of a bottomless hole.

This is all assuming classical black hole models - presumably quantum gravity would eliminate these infinities like it did with electrodynamics.

Since black holes exist within space-time, and God is present throughout all of space time, God is present in a black hole.

This is false - black holes ARE a deviation in space time. They literally are the curvature of space (which from special relativity entails its gravitational attraction). The singularity itself doesn't exist in space time - since it is defined as as an infinite cavity of space time.

And yes since God is infinite, He could be at the bottom of a bottomless hole.

Then God is self-contradictory and hence incoherent.
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7/3/2015 11:06:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 10:57:15 AM, Geogeer wrote:
At 7/3/2015 10:49:51 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 7/3/2015 10:14:10 AM, Geogeer wrote:
At 7/3/2015 6:51:55 AM, Envisage wrote:
What would happen?

You'd realize that an omnipresent God had always been there...

I am not even sure if that is a coherent thing to say about God.

The reason is that because if we assume a classical black hole, with infinite density and no volume, first we have a God which is nowhere (there is no volume to exist in), also the mass warps and infinitely curves space time, and you just have a bottomless well in space time with no bottom - and you are saying God is essentially at the bottom of a bottomless hole.

This is all assuming classical black hole models - presumably quantum gravity would eliminate these infinities like it did with electrodynamics.

Since black holes exist within space-time, and God is present throughout all of space time...

Whoa! Hold the phone there. Haven't you theists been telling us that God is beyond space and time, that it has no effect on Him?
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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7/11/2015 10:25:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/3/2015 9:57:21 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 7/3/2015 6:51:55 AM, Envisage wrote:
What would happen?

Chapter X

Enrique and Charles watched as God fell toward the inactive super massive black hole and disappeared from sight. Massive plasma jets from the rotational poles began spewing X-rays, radio waves and other radiation.

Enrigue threw his hands to his face," Madre de dios! What have we done?!" Charles marveled at the jets ejecting plasma into space noting,"These must be the largest ever witnessed." Enrique, for the first time in what seemed like forever, took his eyes from the phenomena and stared with exasperation at Charles. "Do you realized we have killed God?!"

"Yea, and the Christians are gonna be pissed!"

Chapter XI

God in darkness thought to himself how interesting dying had been...again. Then he said aloud,"Let there be light!"

Chapter XII

And there was light. And he separated the Darkness from the Light - the former he called the Black Hole. Then, he went back into the deep chasm of death, and then, Nietzche proclaimed, having witnessed this and Enrique's horrific act: "God is dead."
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7/11/2015 11:41:03 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/11/2015 10:25:10 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 7/3/2015 9:57:21 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 7/3/2015 6:51:55 AM, Envisage wrote:
What would happen?

Chapter X

Enrique and Charles watched as God fell toward the inactive super massive black hole and disappeared from sight. Massive plasma jets from the rotational poles began spewing X-rays, radio waves and other radiation.

Enrigue threw his hands to his face," Madre de dios! What have we done?!" Charles marveled at the jets ejecting plasma into space noting,"These must be the largest ever witnessed." Enrique, for the first time in what seemed like forever, took his eyes from the phenomena and stared with exasperation at Charles. "Do you realized we have killed God?!"

"Yea, and the Christians are gonna be pissed!"

Chapter XI

God in darkness thought to himself how interesting dying had been...again. Then he said aloud,"Let there be light!"

Chapter XII

And there was light. And he separated the Darkness from the Light - the former he called the Black Hole. Then, he went back into the deep chasm of death, and then, Nietzche proclaimed, having witnessed this and Enrique's horrific act: "God is dead."

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This thread is like eavesdropping on a conversation in a mental asylum. - Bulproof

You can call your invisible friends whatever you like. - Desmac

What the hell kind of coked up sideshow has this thread turned into. - Casten