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7/6/2015 2:00:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/6/2015 1:16:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
"Put the Alphabet in Math"

So that's the dirty so-and-so who created Algebra!!!!!
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1/2/2016 1:34:05 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
We must try our best to love our fellow humans and to love God as Jesus commanded.

We need to try and avoid harmful practices such as: Sexual immorality, Greed, Arrogance, Hatred, Selfishness, Anger, Jealousy etc etc

We must try and promote values of righteousness including:Love, Honour, Dignity, Loyalty, Humility, Integrity, and most importantly help out your fellow humans.

2 Corinthians 4:4

among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.

2 Timothy 3:1-5

1. But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3. having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4. betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5. having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.
(Matthew 24:14:) And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

The Kingdom message is reaching all corners of the globe. In 2010 alone, Jehovah"s Witnesses spent over 1.6 billion hours proclaiming this good news in 236 lands. Over the past decade, they have produced and distributed more than 20 billion items of literature.

https://www.jw.org...
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1/2/2016 2:15:53 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/2/2016 1:34:05 PM, Joshua_Verum wrote:
We must try our best to love our fellow humans and to love God as Jesus commanded.

We need to try and avoid harmful practices such as: Sexual immorality, Greed, Arrogance, Hatred, Selfishness, Anger, Jealousy etc etc

We must try and promote values of righteousness including:Love, Honour, Dignity, Loyalty, Humility, Integrity, and most importantly help out your fellow humans.

2 Corinthians 4:4

among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.

2 Timothy 3:1-5

1. But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3. having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4. betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5. having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.

This is just spam and completely irrelevant to the conversation. Can you grow a brain please?
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1/3/2016 9:30:41 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/2/2016 2:15:53 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/2/2016 1:34:05 PM, Joshua_Verum wrote:
We must try our best to love our fellow humans and to love God as Jesus commanded.

We need to try and avoid harmful practices such as: Sexual immorality, Greed, Arrogance, Hatred, Selfishness, Anger, Jealousy etc etc

We must try and promote values of righteousness including:Love, Honour, Dignity, Loyalty, Humility, Integrity, and most importantly help out your fellow humans.

2 Corinthians 4:4

among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.

2 Timothy 3:1-5

1. But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3. having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4. betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5. having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.

This is just spam and completely irrelevant to the conversation. Can you grow a brain please?

If view that as spam I suggest you seriously evaluate your life.
(Matthew 24:14:) And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

The Kingdom message is reaching all corners of the globe. In 2010 alone, Jehovah"s Witnesses spent over 1.6 billion hours proclaiming this good news in 236 lands. Over the past decade, they have produced and distributed more than 20 billion items of literature.

https://www.jw.org...
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1/3/2016 11:21:00 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/3/2016 9:30:41 AM, Joshua_Verum wrote:
At 1/2/2016 2:15:53 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 1/2/2016 1:34:05 PM, Joshua_Verum wrote:
We must try our best to love our fellow humans and to love God as Jesus commanded.

We need to try and avoid harmful practices such as: Sexual immorality, Greed, Arrogance, Hatred, Selfishness, Anger, Jealousy etc etc

We must try and promote values of righteousness including:Love, Honour, Dignity, Loyalty, Humility, Integrity, and most importantly help out your fellow humans.

2 Corinthians 4:4

among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.

2 Timothy 3:1-5

1. But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3. having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4. betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5. having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.

This is just spam and completely irrelevant to the conversation. Can you grow a brain please?

If view that as spam I suggest you seriously evaluate your life.

I seriously suggest you dump the evil JW sect as it obviously isn't doing your life any good if your posts are a true reflection of your thinking!
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4/14/2016 2:34:57 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 7/6/2015 1:16:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
"Put the Alphabet in Math"

And then Satan said...

"Kill the unbelievers. Slash the throats of the Christians and the Jews."
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/14/2016 8:20:29 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 1/2/2016 1:34:05 PM, Joshua_Verum wrote:
We must try our best to love our fellow humans and to love God as Jesus commanded.

We need to try and avoid harmful practices such as: Sexual immorality, Greed, Arrogance, Hatred, Selfishness, Anger, Jealousy etc etc
Your supposed jebus was a failure at these attributes!

e.g. - But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me. ' " (Luke 19:27) RSV catholic Story book 1966 edition

&

inflicting vengeance upon those who do not know God and upon those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. (2 Thess. 1:8,9) RSV catholic Story book 1966 edition

& It was obviously Gay! e.g. Mark 14:51-52

&

jebus slept with up to 12 men at a time!
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4/14/2016 8:22:55 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 7/6/2015 1:16:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
"Put the Alphabet in Math"

At 4/14/2016 2:34:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
And then Satan said...

"Kill the unbelievers. Slash the throats of the Christians and the Jews."
SNAP!

But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me. ' " (Luke 19:27) RSV catholic Story book 1966 edition

&

inflicting vengeance upon those who do not know God and upon those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. (2 Thess. 1:8,9) RSV catholic Story book 1966 edition

jebus = the Satan!

QED
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4/14/2016 11:08:03 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/14/2016 8:22:55 AM, Composer wrote:
At 7/6/2015 1:16:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
"Put the Alphabet in Math"

At 4/14/2016 2:34:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
And then Satan said...

"Kill the unbelievers. Slash the throats of the Christians and the Jews."
SNAP!

But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me. ' " (Luke 19:27) RSV catholic Story book 1966 edition

&

inflicting vengeance upon those who do not know God and upon those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. (2 Thess. 1:8,9) RSV catholic Story book 1966 edition

jebus = the Satan!

QED

And? Satan hates? Christians and Jews. Satan is referred to as a god. He is also referred to as one worshipped as god. He also seeks to destroy Israel and the church as predicted in Revelation. Islam and the Quran fulfill this testament. Destroying your enemies does not make you Satan. Being Satan makes you Satan.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/14/2016 11:22:32 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
Christ invaded Satan's world guiding God's children through the darkness therein. There is an epic battle between Christ and Satan.

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
(2 Corinthians 4:4)
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/14/2016 11:24:12 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

(John 8:44)
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/14/2016 11:31:14 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.

(Matthew 6:24)
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/14/2016 12:58:03 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
Islam fulfills the Bible's prophetic guideline in reference to the Antichrist in too many improbable ways to imagine.

Christians were given a guideline concerning the Antichrist who will come in the end of days. Muslims have a guideline for what to look for in the coming Mahdi(Islamic messiah). By a defiance of all probability and odds, they both are described in the same way.

Christians are looking for a man fitting these descriptions who is Satan incarnate who will come to destroy the Christians and the Jews. Muslims are looking for a man who fits these characteristics who will destroy the Christians and the Jews.

1)Both become the universal leader for all.
2). Both Will rule the entire world.
3). Both will conquer Israel.
4). Both establish headquarters in Jerusalem.
5). Both eill make a seven year peace treaty with Israel.
6). Both will rule for seven years.
7).Both cause only their religion to be the practiced religion.
8). Both distribute wealth to the populace.
9). Both will be a powerful and unprecedented military and political leader.
10). Both will be given supernatural power over nature.
11). Both arrive on the scene after a period of great turmoil.
12). Both will establish a new world order/government.
13). Both will wage war against Jews and Christians.
14)Both are declared "Messiah".

Jesus Himself gave a warning to God's children in the end of days.
"So if someone tells you, 'Look, the Messiah is out in the desert,' don't bother to go or look. Or, 'Look, he is here,' do not believe it!"

The Mahdi, of course, will appear in Mecca, which is in the middle of nowhere and in the desert.

*

-The Qur'an mentions that in the end of days "the Beast" will address the unbelievers and admonish them for their lack of attention towards God.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

"And when the Word is fulfilled against them, the unjust, we shall produce from the earth a beast to face them: He will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs."

"R01;Qur'an, sura 27 (An-Naml), ayat 82

The Bible uses the exact term "the beast" in describing the Antichrist.

*

"The beast will strike the head, and it will be brighten the face of the believer with the staff and "He is destined for Paradise" will be written on his forehead."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

In the Bible, the beast (Antichrist), marks the foreheads of his followers.

http://www.raptureready.com...

"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads."
(Revelation 20:4)

Christians are being killed in mass, targeted, and beheaded by ISIS.

http://www.ijreview.com...

*

"Damascus will become a heap of ruins."
(Isaiah 17:1)

After the Syrian conflict, here is Damascus today. A heap of ruins.

http://youtu.be...

*

`68; "And Jerusalem was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations then began to fall."
(Revelation 16:19)

Jerusalem is divided into Jewish, Muslim, and Christian.

http://moira.meccahosting.com...

*
What is antichrist?

"It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the ANTICHRIST--denying the Father and the Son."
(1 John 2:22)

The Quran specifically says Jesus is not the Christ, nor the "Son of God".

https://carm.org...

*

"The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to bow to the IMAGE to be killed."
(Revelation 13:15)

*

"The great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the army to cross."
(Revelation 16:12)

The water is so dangerously low that ISIS is crossing at will.

http://youtu.be...

https://www.foreignaffairs.com...

*

Criteria of the religion of Antichrist.

-Bow to an image.

http://youtu.be...

What are they actually bowing to? The black stone. (Pictures)

http://www.crystalinks.com...

-The image "speaks".

"Thus Allah wrote this confirmation. And this stone opened its mouth upon the order of Allah, who put that confirmation in it."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

-Nonworship = death.

http://youtu.be...

Has an infallable prophet who denounces Christ.

http://youtu.be...

Muhammed, the infallable great Prophet denounced Christ in the Quran.

*

Islamic tradition holds that the Black Stone fell from Heaven.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

(Satan fell from Heaven)(Luke 10:18)

666? Greek to Arabic.

http://youtu.be...

666? Take a close look for 666 as you would know it. Is God telling us something?

http://youtu.be...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/14/2016 12:59:44 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
The Bible told the future of the world.

In the Bible, God declares that the world would find freedom and blessing through Isaac. He declared the world would reap a curse from Ishmael.

So what right?

It goes on to tell us that the descendents of Ishmael will be violent with their hand against each other and against everyone else. Ishmael is the father of the Arabs. Ishmael later became known as the father of Islam.

It tells us Ishmael's seed would be slaves to the end of days. Muslims later chose to refer to themselves as the "Slaves of Allah".

Isaac's seed would be free. Isaac is the father of the Jews, Jesus, and Christians. The nations known for freedom are Christian or Israel. Asian countries are not free or democratic. Muslim nations? It's the West, Christian world that is free.

*

Islam fulfills the Bible's prophetic guideline in reference to the Beast in too many improbable ways to imagine. Islam came along 700 years after the last book of the Bible was written.

*

Jesus Himself gave a warning to God's children in the end of days.
"So if someone tells you, 'Look, the Messiah is out in the desert,' don't bother to go or look. Or, 'Look, he is here,' do not believe it!"

The Mahdi (Islamic messiah) of course, will appear in in the middle of nowhere, in the desert.

http://www.islamicweb.com...

*

-The Qur'an mentions that in the end of days "the Beast" will address the unbelievers and admonish them for their lack of attention towards God.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

"And when the Word is fulfilled against them, the unjust, we shall produce from the earth a beast to face them."

"R01;Qur'an, sura 27 (An-Naml), ayat 82

The Bible uses the exact term "the beast" in describing the Antichrist.

https://bible.org...

*

Islam-
"The beast will strike the head, and it will brighten the face of the believer with the staff and "He is destined for Paradise" will be written on his forehead."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

In the Bible, the beast (Antichrist), marks the foreheads of his followers.

http://www.raptureready.com...

"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded..."
(Revelation 20:4)

Christians are being killed in mass, targeted, and beheaded by ISIS in an event labled genocide by the U.S. government.

http://www.ijreview.com...

*

"Damascus will become a heap of ruins."
(Isaiah 17:1)

After the Syrian conflict, here is Damascus today. A heap of ruins.

http://youtu.be...

*

`68; "And Jerusalem was divided into 3 parts, and the cities of the nations then began to fall."
(Revelation 16:19)

Jerusalem is divided into Jewish, Muslim, and Christian.

http://moira.meccahosting.com...

*
What is antichrist?

"It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the ANTICHRIST--denying the Father and the Son."
(1 John 2:22)

The Quran specifically says Jesus is not the "Son of God".

https://carm.org...

*

"The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to bow to the IMAGE to be killed."
(Revelation 13:15)

The Quran commands unbelievers be killed. The punishment for apostasy is death.

http://youtu.be...

(Quran 2:191-193)

*

"The great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the armies to cross."
(Revelation 16:12)

The water is dangerously low.

http://youtu.be...

https://www.foreignaffairs.com...

*

Criteria of the religion of Antichrist.

-Bow to an image.
(Revelation 13:15)

They do.

http://youtu.be...

What are they actually bowing to? The black stone. (Pictures)

http://www.crystalinks.com...

-The image "speaks".
(Revelation 13:15)

"Allah wrote this confirmation. This stone opens its mouth upon the order of Allah, who put that confirmation in it."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

-Nonworship = death.
(Rev 13:15)

http://youtu.be...

Has an "infallable prophet" who denounces Christ.

http://youtu.be...

Muhammed, the infallable great Prophet that cannot even be depicted denounced Christ in the Quran.

*

Islamic tradition holds that the Black Stone fell from Heaven.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

(Satan fell from Heaven)(Luke 10:18)

666? Greek to Arabic.

http://youtu.be...

*

The battle on Earth is literally between Satan's children and God's children.
(Genesis 3:15)
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/14/2016 1:10:58 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/14/2016 12:59:44 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
The Bible told the future of the world.

In the Bible, God declares that the world would find freedom and blessing through Isaac. He declared the world would reap a curse from Ishmael.

So what right?

It goes on to tell us that the descendents of Ishmael will be violent with their hand against each other and against everyone else. Ishmael is the father of the Arabs. Ishmael later became known as the father of Islam.

It tells us Ishmael's seed would be slaves to the end of days. Muslims later chose to refer to themselves as the "Slaves of Allah".

Isaac's seed would be free. Isaac is the father of the Jews, Jesus, and Christians. The nations known for freedom are Christian or Israel. Asian countries are not free or democratic. Muslim nations? It's the West, Christian world that is free.

*

Islam fulfills the Bible's prophetic guideline in reference to the Beast in too many improbable ways to imagine. Islam came along 700 years after the last book of the Bible was written.

*

Jesus Himself gave a warning to God's children in the end of days.
"So if someone tells you, 'Look, the Messiah is out in the desert,' don't bother to go or look. Or, 'Look, he is here,' do not believe it!"

The Mahdi (Islamic messiah) of course, will appear in in the middle of nowhere, in the desert.

http://www.islamicweb.com...

*

-The Qur'an mentions that in the end of days "the Beast" will address the unbelievers and admonish them for their lack of attention towards God.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

"And when the Word is fulfilled against them, the unjust, we shall produce from the earth a beast to face them."

"R01;Qur'an, sura 27 (An-Naml), ayat 82

The Bible uses the exact term "the beast" in describing the Antichrist.

https://bible.org...

*

Islam-
"The beast will strike the head, and it will brighten the face of the believer with the staff and "He is destined for Paradise" will be written on his forehead."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

In the Bible, the beast (Antichrist), marks the foreheads of his followers.

http://www.raptureready.com...

"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded..."
(Revelation 20:4)

Christians are being killed in mass, targeted, and beheaded by ISIS in an event labled genocide by the U.S. government.

http://www.ijreview.com...

*

"Damascus will become a heap of ruins."
(Isaiah 17:1)

After the Syrian conflict, here is Damascus today. A heap of ruins.

http://youtu.be...

*

`68; "And Jerusalem was divided into 3 parts, and the cities of the nations then began to fall."
(Revelation 16:19)

Jerusalem is divided into Jewish, Muslim, and Christian.

http://moira.meccahosting.com...

*
What is antichrist?

"It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the ANTICHRIST--denying the Father and the Son."
(1 John 2:22)

The Quran specifically says Jesus is not the "Son of God".

https://carm.org...

*

"The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to bow to the IMAGE to be killed."
(Revelation 13:15)

The Quran commands unbelievers be killed. The punishment for apostasy is death.

http://youtu.be...

(Quran 2:191-193)

*

"The great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the armies to cross."
(Revelation 16:12)

The water is dangerously low.

http://youtu.be...

https://www.foreignaffairs.com...

*

Criteria of the religion of Antichrist.

-Bow to an image.
(Revelation 13:15)

They do.

http://youtu.be...

What are they actually bowing to? The black stone. (Pictures)

http://www.crystalinks.com...

-The image "speaks".
(Revelation 13:15)

"Allah wrote this confirmation. This stone opens its mouth upon the order of Allah, who put that confirmation in it."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

-Nonworship = death.
(Rev 13:15)

http://youtu.be...

Has an "infallable prophet" who denounces Christ.

http://youtu.be...

Muhammed, the infallable great Prophet that cannot even be depicted denounced Christ in the Quran.

*

Islamic tradition holds that the Black Stone fell from Heaven.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

(Satan fell from Heaven)(Luke 10:18)

666? Greek to Arabic.

http://youtu.be...

*

The battle on Earth is literally between Satan's children and God's children.
(Genesis 3:15)

If either existed God and Satan could well be the same lady.
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4/14/2016 2:24:34 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/14/2016 1:16:58 PM, tarantula wrote:
Brontoraptor talks a load of totally meaningless garbage.

Not actually. The Bible told of what was to come, and here is what it said.

1)A "Prophet" will come who denounces the deity of Christ. Muhammed, the infallable, undepictable prophet of Islam denounced the deity of Christ in the Quran 700 years later.

2)The prophet's followers will bow to an image. Muhammed's follower's bow to an idol.

3)The prophet's followers will believe the idol speaks. Muhammed's followers believe the idol speaks to them.

4)The prophets followers will behead Christians. Muhammed's followers behead Christians.

5)The followers will be from Ishmael(who is the father of the arabs and Islam according to Islam itself).

6)The followers are referred to as "slaves". Muslims refer to themselves as..."the slaves ofAllah".

7)The followers will be constantly involved in violence with their own brothers. The Middle East has never once in history not been involved in killing of each other in mass.

8)The followers will come to change laws. Muslims by command of Allah want Sharia for even the West.

9)The followers will kill those who refuse their god. The punishment for apostasy or being anunbeliever under the Sharia is death.

10)The followers will go forth to force their god on the entire world under one religion.. Allah commands conquest of the entire world into one religion.

The book of Revelation in the Bible made it almost too easy.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/14/2016 2:32:54 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/14/2016 2:24:34 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/14/2016 1:16:58 PM, tarantula wrote:
Brontoraptor talks a load of totally meaningless garbage.

Not actually. The Bible told of what was to come, and here is what it said.

1)A "Prophet" will come who denounces the deity of Christ. Muhammed, the infallable, undepictable prophet of Islam denounced the deity of Christ in the Quran 700 years later.

2)The prophet's followers will bow to an image. Muhammed's follower's bow to an idol.

3)The prophet's followers will believe the idol speaks. Muhammed's followers believe the idol speaks to them.

4)The prophets followers will behead Christians. Muhammed's followers behead Christians.

5)The followers will be from Ishmael(who is the father of the arabs and Islam according to Islam itself).

6)The followers are referred to as "slaves". Muslims refer to themselves as..."the slaves ofAllah".

7)The followers will be constantly involved in violence with their own brothers. The Middle East has never once in history not been involved in killing of each other in mass.

8)The followers will come to change laws. Muslims by command of Allah want Sharia for even the West.

9)The followers will kill those who refuse their god. The punishment for apostasy or being anunbeliever under the Sharia is death.

10)The followers will go forth to force their god on the entire world under one religion.. Allah commands conquest of the entire world into one religion.

The book of Revelation in the Bible made it almost too easy.

The Bible, especially the book of Revelation, is open to an myriad of interpretations created by the human imagination, some crazier than others! Only the extremely gullible would fall for that nonsense.
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4/14/2016 4:52:53 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/14/2016 2:32:54 PM, tarantula wrote:
At 4/14/2016 2:24:34 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/14/2016 1:16:58 PM, tarantula wrote:
Brontoraptor talks a load of totally meaningless garbage.

Not actually. The Bible told of what was to come, and here is what it said.

1)A "Prophet" will come who denounces the deity of Christ. Muhammed, the infallable, undepictable prophet of Islam denounced the deity of Christ in the Quran 700 years later.

2)The prophet's followers will bow to an image. Muhammed's follower's bow to an idol.

3)The prophet's followers will believe the idol speaks. Muhammed's followers believe the idol speaks to them.

4)The prophets followers will behead Christians. Muhammed's followers behead Christians.

5)The followers will be from Ishmael(who is the father of the arabs and Islam according to Islam itself).

6)The followers are referred to as "slaves". Muslims refer to themselves as..."the slaves ofAllah".

7)The followers will be constantly involved in violence with their own brothers. The Middle East has never once in history not been involved in killing of each other in mass.

8)The followers will come to change laws. Muslims by command of Allah want Sharia for even the West.

9)The followers will kill those who refuse their god. The punishment for apostasy or being anunbeliever under the Sharia is death.

10)The followers will go forth to force their god on the entire world under one religion.. Allah commands conquest of the entire world into one religion.

The book of Revelation in the Bible made it almost too easy.

The Bible, especially the book of Revelation, is open to an myriad of interpretations created by the human imagination, some crazier than others! Only the extremely gullible would fall for that nonsense.

Is that right? Let's check it out.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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4/14/2016 4:53:27 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
I'll educate you really quick. This isn't actually even kind of hard. :t's simple.

God speaks to Satan:

"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."
(Genesis 3:15)

There is no interpretation needed. It says what it means. There will be a conflict between Satan's children and the woman's children. One of her children in particular will be wounded by him but destroy him.

Simplified: Satan's children will be in conflict with the woman's children. One of her children will destroy him and his children.

And it started right out of the gate.

"Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother's were righteous."
(1 John 3:12)

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Who came to destroy Satan that was He Himself wounded?

Speaking of Jesus-

"The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work."
(1 John 3:8)

"But he was wounded for our transgressions, and he was crushed for our iniquities, and the punishment that made us whole was upon him, and by his bruises we are healed."
(Isaiah 53:5)

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And then the covenant between God and Abraham was established

Isaac vs Ishmael

Ishmael:

"This son of yours will be a wild man, and untamed! He will raise his fist against everyone, and everyone will be against him. Yes, he will live in open hostility against all."
(Genesis 16:12)

No interpretation needed. Ishmael will be violent and untamed.

"And she said to Abraham, "Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that woman's son will never share in the inheritance with my son Isaac."
(Genesis 21:10)

"But God told Abraham, "Do not be upset over the boy and your servant. Do whatever Sarah tells you, for Isaac is the son through whom your descendants will be counted."
(Genesis 21:12)

There's nothing to interpret. Isaac's children will receive inheritance from God. Ishmael's children will not receive inheritance from God. Simple speech.

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God talks about Isaac-
"And through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

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"But what does Scripture say? "Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son."
(Galatians 4:30)

Isaac's children bless the world.

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What God's children DO NOT DO.

"Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God."
(Leviticus 26:1)

So what do Ishmael's children do still today? Bow to a black stone.

http://youtu.be...

What are they actually bowing to? The black stone. (Pictures)

http://www.crystalinks.com...

What do God's children NOT DO?

"Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him."
(1 Kings 19:18)

Baal was an idol worshipped like a god.

So what do Muslims go and do? Try to kiss the stone that they bow to.

http://muslimmatters.org...

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"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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4/14/2016 4:59:07 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
So to be perfectly clear, who is Ishmael as applies to today? The father of the Arab tribes, the Arabs, and the "Father of Muhammed", the "Father of Islam".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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4/14/2016 5:02:30 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
So, let's go back over it again real quick.

The beast will strike the head, and it will brighten the face of the believer with the staff and "He is destined for Paradise" will be marked on his forehead."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

In the Bible, the beast (Antichrist), marks the foreheads of his followers.

http://www.raptureready.com...

"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads."
(Revelation 20:4)

Christians are being killed in mass, targeted, and beheaded by ISIS.

http://www.ijreview.com...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/14/2016 5:04:24 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/14/2016 5:02:30 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
So, let's go back over it again real quick.

The beast will strike the head, and it will brighten the face of the believer with the staff and "He is destined for Paradise" will be marked on his forehead."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

In the Bible, the beast (Antichrist), marks the foreheads of his followers.

http://www.raptureready.com...

"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads."
(Revelation 20:4)

Christians are being killed in mass, targeted, and beheaded by ISIS.

http://www.ijreview.com...

Go and stop them,then.
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4/14/2016 5:05:00 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/14/2016 2:32:54 PM, tarantula wrote:
At 4/14/2016 2:24:34 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/14/2016 1:16:58 PM, tarantula wrote:
Brontoraptor talks a load of totally meaningless garbage.

Not actually. The Bible told of what was to come, and here is what it said.

1)A "Prophet" will come who denounces the deity of Christ. Muhammed, the infallable, undepictable prophet of Islam denounced the deity of Christ in the Quran 700 years later.

2)The prophet's followers will bow to an image. Muhammed's follower's bow to an idol.

3)The prophet's followers will believe the idol speaks. Muhammed's followers believe the idol speaks to them.

4)The prophets followers will behead Christians. Muhammed's followers behead Christians.

5)The followers will be from Ishmael(who is the father of the arabs and Islam according to Islam itself).

6)The followers are referred to as "slaves". Muslims refer to themselves as..."the slaves ofAllah".

7)The followers will be constantly involved in violence with their own brothers. The Middle East has never once in history not been involved in killing of each other in mass.

8)The followers will come to change laws. Muslims by command of Allah want Sharia for even the West.

9)The followers will kill those who refuse their god. The punishment for apostasy or being anunbeliever under the Sharia is death.

10)The followers will go forth to force their god on the entire world under one religion.. Allah commands conquest of the entire world into one religion.

The book of Revelation in the Bible made it almost too easy.

The Bible, especially the book of Revelation, is open to an myriad of interpretations created by the human imagination, some crazier than others! Only the extremely gullible would fall for that nonsense.

Be sure and get back with me on which part was ambiguous, in need of strong interpretation, or was too vague.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/14/2016 5:07:32 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/14/2016 5:04:24 PM, desmac wrote:
At 4/14/2016 5:02:30 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
So, let's go back over it again real quick.

The beast will strike the head, and it will brighten the face of the believer with the staff and "He is destined for Paradise" will be marked on his forehead."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

In the Bible, the beast (Antichrist), marks the foreheads of his followers.

http://www.raptureready.com...

"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads."
(Revelation 20:4)

Christians are being killed in mass, targeted, and beheaded by ISIS.

http://www.ijreview.com...

Go and stop them,then.

We might slow it down, but it won't be me that stops them.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...