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Do the laws of science really mean anything?

Sooner
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7/11/2015 2:57:30 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
If a video game programmer designed a video game, he would use vast amounts of code to create the laws and boundries of that game. And he could change those laws and boundries at his discretion. So, if a character in that game said something was impossible because there are fundamental laws that can't be broken, would he be correct? Would the "science" or "rules" of the game be valid as evidence for why something is impossible, seeing that a change in the code of the program could make the seemingly impossible, possible? Wouldn't the "laws" of their world be non concrete, not unchangable boundries that hold power unconditionally?
-Is it possible that much like programmed code, the laws of science can be altered to dictate scientific laws and boundries within our own reality? Cans the laws of physics be altered?
Everything within our reality is composed of energy, pixel like fragments that combine to make up all things around us, seen or unseen. Is our reality simply a complex virtual reality in high definition?
As in the movie, "The Matrix", those inside of this virtual world had no concept of an outside reality and based their beliefs on the laws of "science", if you will, that governed their reality. It turned out that those laws were not concrete or unchangeable. There are several examples in the movie of people overriding the science laws of this virtual world to do things that these laws dictated as impossible. To challenge the concept of manipulating these laws and changing them at first glance seems a logical argument. But because of information that those living in the matrix were ignorant of, the argument that scientific laws within their reality cannot be changed would be wrong.
Our observations of more complex scientific matters is relativity young. Our studies in the modern scientific era, are in infancy. Are the people matter of factly selling us "truths of the universe", no more different than the supposedly great minds that declared the Earth was flat and the Earth was the center of the galaxy. Excepted scientific ideas and theories have been rejected by a more technologically advanced generation throughout all of semi-modern history.
There are unexplained phenomenons all across outerspace. There are many observable things in space that we have no clear answer on, but we are still given theoretical information as though it were fact. We haven't even been out in space for very long in our history, but yet supposed "experts" toss theoretical information at us with blind arrogance and state theories as facts.(which by definition is bad science). And anyone that challenges their proposals must be uneducated or stupid. Challenging an unproven concept is not stupid. It is responsible science. Ideas are to be challenged. Multiple concepts are to be considered in good science. Single focus on one philosophy alone is arrogant, ignorant, and iresponsible.
There are forces in space that are unseen but there is evidence for their existance, much like the wind.
We haven't even touched the surface of knowledge and technology. I am amused at those who arrogantly challenge ideas that do not fit into their little box. They hold onto their beliefs or lack thereof despite any evidence or lack of evidence that rejects what they want to believe. When someone is convicted of their beliefs to the point that evidence, truth, and concepts that challenge their beliefs are mocked, that person has in their mind placed a golden crown upon their head, sits upon an invisible throne, and displayed themselves to the world as weak, selfish, in denial, and unconfident.
If you are confident, concepts that challenge your thoughts are of no threat to you. If you are a true seaker of the truth, you will follow evidence, concepts, and logic to no matter where they lead. The truth is the truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
Does God exist? Is our realty virtual? Is the finite reality we observe before us all there is? Are the laws of science as we know them concrete? Can the properties of these laws be changed? Are there places somewhere where the laws of science differ from ours? Are physics laws the same across the entire scope of reality? How many unseen and unknown forces are there that counter and erase the math and equations that we use to come up with what we think are 100% correct conclusions, that are completely innaccurate because these forces are not included in these equations?
When we are handed "scientific facts" by certain science groups, what proof do we have that their methods were solid, well researched, or not manipulated by certain special interest groups who need for certain information to be believed whether true or not?
Could your beliefs be based off of propaganda, manipulation of facts for profit, down right lies, the opinion of a power hungry"expert" satisfied only by seeming rightwhether actually rigjt or not.
I encourage free thinking. You can still be an Athiest and listen and consider the ideas of basic creationism whether you believe them or not. A designer of our science and our reality is not an unbelievable idea whether it's true or not. It's a valid theory as much as any other theory.
You can be a full fledged Creationist and listen and study science, physics, and even Evolution. If God exists, evolution or many other theories on the origin of life, could be the system God used. I would assume an omnipotant creator is able to design and create on his own terms however he wants to and probably has no need to explain his ways or methods. It is even possible that there is no such entity. If you choose say, Christianity as your core belief, don't reject the findings of Science. Have faith in the one you believe in knowing that if he is an omnipotent creator for real, then all findings and truths of science somehow simply fit under the programming and design of his creation. Dinosaurs and evolution do not disprove a creator. The argument assumes a creator must create under the guidelines they assume he would create by, which is illogical).
-Back to Athiests. Your belief could be right, and you know it. But trying to disprove the Bible is futile. It's open ended. There are too many ways to view the information within its pages. Much of the language is symbolic, "kryptic", in parabal form, and predictive of future events. These events, whether true or not are impossible to disprove.
Many Athiests try to find flaws in the Old Testament. This is futile as well. Some of its recordings are thought to be historical. Some are thought to be parabalistic(or fictional stories meant to teach a lesson or make a complex idea easier to understand.) Some of its writings prophecy the end of the world. Proving the prophecies false is obviously impossible.
There are ideals in the Old Testament that challengers will attach to predictably. And after boastfully feeling correct, it turns out Jesus openly challenged many OT beliefs and teachings, and the laws of Moses, and according to the NT, completely disreguarded some of the outdated BS that religious leaders tried to hold him to and judge him for. There are many ways to interpret his reactions to OT regulations, too many ways to count, so much so that no 2 Christian denominations fully agree on any of it. Another philosophy taken up by some followers of Jesus is that he came to rid the Jews completely of the OT's outdated, archaeic stranglehold on modern minds with principles that were used to bring order during a period of history when such principles and guidelines were more neccessary. Does this make Christianity true. No. But it could be. So could other things.
-In closing, free your mind. Overthinking gets you nowhere from either side of the issue. If you are set on Atheism, feel freed from the religious regulations and guilt. If you are set on Christianity, have faith in God. Ask for his help. The NT law is love. Don't make it compl
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JJ50
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7/11/2015 3:03:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Science can be validated. The less than credible stuff in the Bible has no evidence to support it at all, and is the product of the human imagination.