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How much can a religion drift from the bible?

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7/20/2015 2:43:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
before it is no longer considered to be Christian..??

many cults add extra doctrines, remove some scripture, add to salvation in terms of conditions..

just how far can they change the bible and still be considered Christians..
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7/20/2015 3:10:57 PM
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My guess would be that the Bible itself may not a good guide to the teachings of Jesus. Modern (ie the last 1900 years or so) Cristianity reflects the ideas of Paul who was clearly a bit of an outsider. The true form of Christianity is probably best represented by the book of James - a book Martin Luther (the old german one, not MLK!) hated, calling it an 'Epistle of straw' for its un-Pauline message.
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7/20/2015 3:19:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/20/2015 3:10:57 PM, kp98 wrote:
My guess would be that the Bible itself may not a good guide to the teachings of Jesus. Modern (ie the last 1900 years or so) Cristianity reflects the ideas of Paul who was clearly a bit of an outsider. The true form of Christianity is probably best represented by the book of James - a book Martin Luther (the old german one, not MLK!) hated, calling it an 'Epistle of straw' for its un-Pauline message.

Meh. James was just too Catholic for ML.
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7/21/2015 2:51:37 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
if you believe the bible is perfect these should be easy to answer
1. how important was genealogy to the jews? (best guess)
very important, important, not important ?

according to matthew 1:6-16 and luke 3:21-31
2. who was the father of joseph?
jacob v16 or heli v23

3. who was the father of salathiel?
jechonias v12 or neri v27

4. was eliakim the father(grandfather etc.) or the son(grandson etc) of salathiel?
v13 or v30

5. how important was genealogy to the disciples of jesus? (best guess)
very important, important, not important ?
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7/21/2015 2:56:59 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/20/2015 3:10:57 PM, kp98 wrote:
My guess would be that the Bible itself may not a good guide to the teachings of Jesus. Modern (ie the last 1900 years or so) Cristianity reflects the ideas of Paul who was clearly a bit of an outsider. The true form of Christianity is probably best represented by the book of James - a book Martin Luther (the old german one, not MLK!) hated, calling it an 'Epistle of straw' for its un-Pauline message.

I reckon that ghastly little man Paul created Christianity! He appeared to be a homophobic, misogynist! His writings have been used an excuse for gays being persecuted and women being treated as less than equal to men, by some Christians!
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7/21/2015 4:10:41 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Meh. James was just too Catholic for ML.
Too Jewish is nearer the mark. ML was a rabid anti-semite.

James emphasis the practical and humnitarian aspects of religion -

14What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?15If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, be warmed and filled," without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

That is very un-Pauline, who belived precisely the opposite - that salvation was through faith alone. James is clearly making a deliberate and targetted attack on the Pauline view here.

So James is un-Pauline, but is does he represent the original form of Christian faith more closely than Paul? I pass.
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7/21/2015 5:01:28 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/21/2015 4:10:41 AM, kp98 wrote:
Meh. James was just too Catholic for ML.
Too Jewish is nearer the mark. ML was a rabid anti-semite.

James emphasis the practical and humnitarian aspects of religion -

And the others don't lol? I'd b glad to show you some, much more than in James, but James is good too.

14What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?15If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, be warmed and filled," without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

I can show you almost the same application in Paul's writings.

That is very un-Pauline, who belived precisely the opposite - that salvation was through faith alone. James is clearly making a deliberate and targetted attack on the Pauline view here.

No, that is silly. One emphasizes an aspect while the other emphasizes another but to say that Paul did not instruct works is ridiculous to say the least, you can't have one without the other and you cannot just cherry pick a few verses, we need both aspects not just one.
Paul was a doer not a not just a talker and that is evident in his speech and life.

So James is un-Pauline, but is does he represent the original form of Christian faith more closely than Paul? I pass.

I have yet to see where you are making any valid argument. So I'll pass and say James was in harmony with Paul.
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7/21/2015 9:23:12 AM
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There is a common misconception that Paul was not very Christian.

Paul's letters probably give us the best representation of what Christianity is about. Every apostasy of the church was prophesied of and warned against in the letters of Paul.

There is a lot of meat in the Pauline Epistles.
"There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true." ~ Niels Bohr

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer
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7/21/2015 9:34:29 AM
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Who makes the claim that the bible is the foundation of christianity?
Heaven is just a tall building away.
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7/21/2015 9:49:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/21/2015 9:34:29 AM, bulproof wrote:
Who makes the claim that the bible is the foundation of christianity?

The Word of God is the foundation of Christianity, not The Bible.

Idolatry of scripture is actually one of the main things revealed by Jesus Christ.

The letter of the law kills, but the spirit of the law brings life.

Christians are supposed to embody the spirit of the law.
"There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true." ~ Niels Bohr

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer
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7/21/2015 9:50:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/21/2015 9:49:10 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:34:29 AM, bulproof wrote:
Who makes the claim that the bible is the foundation of christianity?

The Word of God is the foundation of Christianity, not The Bible.

Idolatry of scripture is actually one of the main things revealed by Jesus Christ.

The letter of the law kills, but the spirit of the law brings life.

Christians are supposed to embody the spirit of the law.

What is the word of god?
Heaven is just a tall building away.
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7/21/2015 9:52:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/21/2015 9:50:27 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:49:10 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:34:29 AM, bulproof wrote:
Who makes the claim that the bible is the foundation of christianity?

The Word of God is the foundation of Christianity, not The Bible.

Idolatry of scripture is actually one of the main things revealed by Jesus Christ.

The letter of the law kills, but the spirit of the law brings life.

Christians are supposed to embody the spirit of the law.

What is the word of god?

The way. The Truth. The Light.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
"There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true." ~ Niels Bohr

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer
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7/21/2015 10:14:32 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/21/2015 9:52:38 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:50:27 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:49:10 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:34:29 AM, bulproof wrote:
Who makes the claim that the bible is the foundation of christianity?

The Word of God is the foundation of Christianity, not The Bible.

Idolatry of scripture is actually one of the main things revealed by Jesus Christ.

The letter of the law kills, but the spirit of the law brings life.

Christians are supposed to embody the spirit of the law.

What is the word of god?

The way. The Truth. The Light.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

Spewing platitudes is an indictment on your integrity.
Answer my question.
What is the word of god and where do you find it?
If not in the bible you must possess another source, please enlighten us.
Heaven is just a tall building away.
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7/21/2015 10:15:41 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/21/2015 9:52:38 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
The way. The Truth. The Light.
For instance from whence came this?
Heaven is just a tall building away.
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7/21/2015 10:28:01 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/21/2015 9:23:12 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
There is a common misconception that Paul was not very Christian.

Paul's letters probably give us the best representation of what Christianity is about. Every apostasy of the church was prophesied of and warned against in the letters of Paul.

There is a lot of meat in the Pauline Epistles.

I agree and it is supported by the ot...

personally I don't like people who dismiss parts of the bible to me it is all inspired..
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7/21/2015 10:31:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/21/2015 10:14:32 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:52:38 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:50:27 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:49:10 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:34:29 AM, bulproof wrote:
Who makes the claim that the bible is the foundation of christianity?

The Word of God is the foundation of Christianity, not The Bible.

Idolatry of scripture is actually one of the main things revealed by Jesus Christ.

The letter of the law kills, but the spirit of the law brings life.

Christians are supposed to embody the spirit of the law.

What is the word of god?

The way. The Truth. The Light.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

Spewing platitudes is an indictment on your integrity.
Answer my question.
What is the word of god and where do you find it?
If not in the bible you must possess another source, please enlighten us.

if you don't believe it don't believe it, that is your choice but leave those who do believe it, believe...

thanks...
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7/21/2015 10:34:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/21/2015 10:14:32 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:52:38 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:50:27 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:49:10 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:34:29 AM, bulproof wrote:
Who makes the claim that the bible is the foundation of christianity?

The Word of God is the foundation of Christianity, not The Bible.

Idolatry of scripture is actually one of the main things revealed by Jesus Christ.

The letter of the law kills, but the spirit of the law brings life.

Christians are supposed to embody the spirit of the law.

What is the word of god?

The way. The Truth. The Light.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

Spewing platitudes is an indictment on your integrity.
Answer my question.
What is the word of god and where do you find it?
If not in the bible you must possess another source, please enlighten us.

I did answer your question, you just don't understand what I'm saying. You arrogantly think you do, which is why you only see platitudes.
"There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true." ~ Niels Bohr

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer
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7/21/2015 10:35:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/21/2015 10:15:41 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:52:38 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
The way. The Truth. The Light.
For instance from whence came this?

God and The Word are two aspects of the same thing.
"There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true." ~ Niels Bohr

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer
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7/21/2015 10:39:35 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/21/2015 10:35:08 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 10:15:41 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:52:38 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
The way. The Truth. The Light.
For instance from whence came this?

God and The Word are two aspects of the same thing.

And we see your dedication to truth crawling under the carpet.
Well done poor godbotherer.
Say goodbye now, your time here is over, you've failed abysmally.
Heaven is just a tall building away.
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7/21/2015 10:44:39 AM
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At 7/21/2015 10:34:23 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 10:14:32 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:52:38 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:50:27 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:49:10 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:34:29 AM, bulproof wrote:
Who makes the claim that the bible is the foundation of christianity?

The Word of God is the foundation of Christianity, not The Bible.

Idolatry of scripture is actually one of the main things revealed by Jesus Christ.

The letter of the law kills, but the spirit of the law brings life.

Christians are supposed to embody the spirit of the law.

What is the word of god?

The way. The Truth. The Light.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

Spewing platitudes is an indictment on your integrity.
Answer my question.
What is the word of god and where do you find it?
If not in the bible you must possess another source, please enlighten us.

I did answer your question, you just don't understand what I'm saying. You arrogantly think you do, which is why you only see platitudes.

bulproof tried the same rubbish with me, it seems to have a flow chart answer system, if you answer what it doesn't want to hear or cannot work out it goes back to reset of liar or idiot..

I think it might be a bit special...

Trust in what you know ...
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7/21/2015 10:45:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/21/2015 10:39:35 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 10:35:08 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 10:15:41 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:52:38 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
The way. The Truth. The Light.
For instance from whence came this?

God and The Word are two aspects of the same thing.

And we see your dedication to truth crawling under the carpet.
Well done poor godbotherer.
Say goodbye now, your time here is over, you've failed abysmally.

I'm not stupid enough to think that I can change people.

I do know when it is time to ignore someone until they pull their head out their behind though.
"There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true." ~ Niels Bohr

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer
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7/21/2015 10:47:36 AM
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At 7/21/2015 10:45:04 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 10:39:35 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 10:35:08 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 10:15:41 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:52:38 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
The way. The Truth. The Light.
For instance from whence came this?

God and The Word are two aspects of the same thing.

And we see your dedication to truth crawling under the carpet.
Well done poor godbotherer.
Say goodbye now, your time here is over, you've failed abysmally.

I'm not stupid enough to think that I can change people.

I do know when it is time to ignore someone until they pull their head out their behind though.

hahahahahahaha.
Heaven is just a tall building away.
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7/21/2015 10:49:17 AM
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At 7/21/2015 10:44:39 AM, graceofgod wrote:
bulproof tried the same rubbish with me, it seems to have a flow chart answer system, if you answer what it doesn't want to hear or cannot work out it goes back to reset of liar or idiot..

I think it might be a bit special...

Trust in what you know ...

I can't take him seriously anymore, he doesn't come across as honest. He could just as easily be a Christian doing an atheist impression in order to make them look bad.

I have decided to ignore him from this point on.
"There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true." ~ Niels Bohr

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer
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7/21/2015 10:49:41 AM
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At 7/21/2015 10:45:04 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 10:39:35 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 10:35:08 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 10:15:41 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:52:38 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
The way. The Truth. The Light.
For instance from whence came this?

God and The Word are two aspects of the same thing.

And we see your dedication to truth crawling under the carpet.
Well done poor godbotherer.
Say goodbye now, your time here is over, you've failed abysmally.

I'm not stupid enough to think that I can change people.

I do know when it is time to ignore someone until they pull their head out their behind though.

well said,..

there are none so blind as those who chose not to see...
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7/21/2015 10:51:39 AM
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At 7/21/2015 10:49:17 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 7/21/2015 10:44:39 AM, graceofgod wrote:
bulproof tried the same rubbish with me, it seems to have a flow chart answer system, if you answer what it doesn't want to hear or cannot work out it goes back to reset of liar or idiot..

I think it might be a bit special...

Trust in what you know ...

I can't take him seriously anymore, he doesn't come across as honest. He could just as easily be a Christian doing an atheist impression in order to make them look bad.

I have decided to ignore him from this point on.

I don't blame you, he went on with me, they just want a certain answer if you don't give that answer they claim you are lying...
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7/22/2015 4:51:35 AM
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At 7/21/2015 2:56:59 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 7/20/2015 3:10:57 PM, kp98 wrote:
My guess would be that the Bible itself may not a good guide to the teachings of Jesus. Modern (ie the last 1900 years or so) Cristianity reflects the ideas of Paul who was clearly a bit of an outsider. The true form of Christianity is probably best represented by the book of James - a book Martin Luther (the old german one, not MLK!) hated, calling it an 'Epistle of straw' for its un-Pauline message.

I reckon that ghastly little man Paul created Christianity! He appeared to be a homophobic, misogynist! His writings have been used an excuse for gays being persecuted and women being treated as less than equal to men, by some Christians!

If these are your worst concerns then I suggest focusing your relentless attacks on Islam instead of Christianity. Islam - oh the horrors - if you only knew.
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7/22/2015 8:44:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/22/2015 4:51:35 AM, Serato wrote:
At 7/21/2015 2:56:59 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 7/20/2015 3:10:57 PM, kp98 wrote:
My guess would be that the Bible itself may not a good guide to the teachings of Jesus. Modern (ie the last 1900 years or so) Cristianity reflects the ideas of Paul who was clearly a bit of an outsider. The true form of Christianity is probably best represented by the book of James - a book Martin Luther (the old german one, not MLK!) hated, calling it an 'Epistle of straw' for its un-Pauline message.

I reckon that ghastly little man Paul created Christianity! He appeared to be a homophobic, misogynist! His writings have been used an excuse for gays being persecuted and women being treated as less than equal to men, by some Christians!

If these are your worst concerns then I suggest focusing your relentless attacks on Islam instead of Christianity. Islam - oh the horrors - if you only knew.

an excellent point well made..
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7/22/2015 6:48:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/22/2015 8:44:51 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 7/22/2015 4:51:35 AM, Serato wrote:
At 7/21/2015 2:56:59 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 7/20/2015 3:10:57 PM, kp98 wrote:
My guess would be that the Bible itself may not a good guide to the teachings of Jesus. Modern (ie the last 1900 years or so) Cristianity reflects the ideas of Paul who was clearly a bit of an outsider. The true form of Christianity is probably best represented by the book of James - a book Martin Luther (the old german one, not MLK!) hated, calling it an 'Epistle of straw' for its un-Pauline message.

I reckon that ghastly little man Paul created Christianity! He appeared to be a homophobic, misogynist! His writings have been used an excuse for gays being persecuted and women being treated as less than equal to men, by some Christians!

If these are your worst concerns then I suggest focusing your relentless attacks on Islam instead of Christianity. Islam - oh the horrors - if you only knew.

an excellent point well made..

Thanks
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7/22/2015 8:07:33 PM
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At 7/20/2015 2:43:25 PM, graceofgod wrote:
before it is no longer considered to be Christian..??

many cults add extra doctrines, remove some scripture, add to salvation in terms of conditions..

just how far can they change the bible and still be considered Christians..

Its all in their own heads. history has shown us that many people have skewed the word of God and bent and twisted it for their own uses. and they call themselves Muslims or Christians or whatever. This is nothiing new, even the bible writers did it. especially in the old testament. I guess the answer to this is to know that like any big company or insititution that is made of men and women that religion will also be skewed for greed. but don't let it bother you too much and just accept it as human nature.
And try your best to act as your version of God would want you to.
Tomorrow's forecast: God reigns and the Son shines!
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7/23/2015 3:15:02 AM
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At 7/22/2015 8:07:33 PM, August_Burns_Red wrote:
At 7/20/2015 2:43:25 PM, graceofgod wrote:
before it is no longer considered to be Christian..??

many cults add extra doctrines, remove some scripture, add to salvation in terms of conditions..

just how far can they change the bible and still be considered Christians..

Its all in their own heads. history has shown us that many people have skewed the word of God and bent and twisted it for their own uses. and they call themselves Muslims or Christians or whatever. This is nothiing new, even the bible writers did it. especially in the old testament. I guess the answer to this is to know that like any big company or insititution that is made of men and women that religion will also be skewed for greed. but don't let it bother you too much and just accept it as human nature.
And try your best to act as your version of God would want you to.

While I agree with much of that statement I do not agree that the bible writers skewed the word at all...