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8/25/2015 6:59:00 AM
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The "concept" of God is usually defined by a lack of a definition. God is usually said to be unlimited in power, knowledge, and goodness and unknowable to us mere mortals; but these are all traits that are defined by a lack of something.

"God" is not a concept at all because it subsumes no particulars. Unlike a real concept, there is nothing in reality to which one can refer to and say, "That is God." To be unlimited in power, omnipotence, is a contradiction. To be unlimited in goodness, omnibenevolence, is taken without any standard of good. Regarding God, it is said that God is good. What is good? God's will. What characterizes God's will? Goodness. That circle is without substance and meaningless. Some people claim that all these objections are silly because God is simply unknowable. How do they know that God is unknowable?

The notion of God is nothing but a big mixture of contradictions and nothingness. There is no meaning behind the word and no concept to even define.
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8/25/2015 7:02:25 AM
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At 8/25/2015 6:59:00 AM, missmedic wrote:
The "concept" of God is usually defined by a lack of a definition. God is usually said to be unlimited in power, knowledge, and goodness and unknowable to us mere mortals; but these are all traits that are defined by a lack of something.

"God" is not a concept at all because it subsumes no particulars. Unlike a real concept, there is nothing in reality to which one can refer to and say, "That is God." To be unlimited in power, omnipotence, is a contradiction. To be unlimited in goodness, omnibenevolence, is taken without any standard of good. Regarding God, it is said that God is good. What is good? God's will. What characterizes God's will? Goodness. That circle is without substance and meaningless. Some people claim that all these objections are silly because God is simply unknowable. How do they know that God is unknowable?

The notion of God is nothing but a big mixture of contradictions and nothingness. There is no meaning behind the word and no concept to even define.

You'll find the definition of "god" in a dictionary.
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8/25/2015 7:14:48 AM
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At 8/25/2015 6:59:00 AM, missmedic wrote:
The "concept" of God is usually defined by a lack of a definition. God is usually said to be unlimited in power, knowledge, and goodness and unknowable to us mere mortals; but these are all traits that are defined by a lack of something.

"God" is not a concept at all because it subsumes no particulars. Unlike a real concept, there is nothing in reality to which one can refer to and say, "That is God." To be unlimited in power, omnipotence, is a contradiction. To be unlimited in goodness, omnibenevolence, is taken without any standard of good. Regarding God, it is said that God is good. What is good? God's will. What characterizes God's will? Goodness. That circle is without substance and meaningless. Some people claim that all these objections are silly because God is simply unknowable. How do they know that God is unknowable?

The notion of God is nothing but a big mixture of contradictions and nothingness. There is no meaning behind the word and no concept to even define.

God or Allah belongs to 99 beautiful attributions and some names that are mentioned in Quran and Hadith.

"He is Allah, than Whom there is no other God, the Knower of the Invisible and the Visible. He is the Beneficent, Merciful. (22) He is Allah, than Whom there is no other God, the Sovereign Lord, the Holy One, Peace, the Keeper of Faith, the Guardian, the Majestic, the Compeller, the Superb. Glorified be Allah from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him). (23) He is Allah, the Creator, the Shaper out of naught, the Fashioner. His are the most beautiful names. All that is in the heavens and the earth glorifieth Him, and He is the Mighty, the Wise. (24) "

Quran 59: 22-24
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8/25/2015 7:24:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/25/2015 6:59:00 AM, missmedic wrote:
The "concept" of God is usually defined by a lack of a definition. God is usually said to be unlimited in power, knowledge, and goodness and unknowable to us mere mortals; but these are all traits that are defined by a lack of something.

"God" is not a concept at all because it subsumes no particulars. Unlike a real concept, there is nothing in reality to which one can refer to and say, "That is God." To be unlimited in power, omnipotence, is a contradiction. To be unlimited in goodness, omnibenevolence, is taken without any standard of good. Regarding God, it is said that God is good. What is good? God's will. What characterizes God's will? Goodness. That circle is without substance and meaningless. Some people claim that all these objections are silly because God is simply unknowable. How do they know that God is unknowable?

The notion of God is nothing but a big mixture of contradictions and nothingness. There is no meaning behind the word and no concept to even define.

+1

God = any gap in scientific knowledge
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8/25/2015 6:49:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/25/2015 7:02:25 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 8/25/2015 6:59:00 AM, missmedic wrote:
The "concept" of God is usually defined by a lack of a definition. God is usually said to be unlimited in power, knowledge, and goodness and unknowable to us mere mortals; but these are all traits that are defined by a lack of something.

"God" is not a concept at all because it subsumes no particulars. Unlike a real concept, there is nothing in reality to which one can refer to and say, "That is God." To be unlimited in power, omnipotence, is a contradiction. To be unlimited in goodness, omnibenevolence, is taken without any standard of good. Regarding God, it is said that God is good. What is good? God's will. What characterizes God's will? Goodness. That circle is without substance and meaningless. Some people claim that all these objections are silly because God is simply unknowable. How do they know that God is unknowable?

The notion of God is nothing but a big mixture of contradictions and nothingness. There is no meaning behind the word and no concept to even define.

You'll find the definition of "god" in a dictionary.

The truth is no one knows what god is, how could we puny humans define god. God is something beyond our understanding and knowledge. To try and define god would mean that god has limits. Only through human arrogance can we claim to know what god is.
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8/25/2015 7:13:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/25/2015 6:49:35 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 8/25/2015 7:02:25 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 8/25/2015 6:59:00 AM, missmedic wrote:
The "concept" of God is usually defined by a lack of a definition. God is usually said to be unlimited in power, knowledge, and goodness and unknowable to us mere mortals; but these are all traits that are defined by a lack of something.

"God" is not a concept at all because it subsumes no particulars. Unlike a real concept, there is nothing in reality to which one can refer to and say, "That is God." To be unlimited in power, omnipotence, is a contradiction. To be unlimited in goodness, omnibenevolence, is taken without any standard of good. Regarding God, it is said that God is good. What is good? God's will. What characterizes God's will? Goodness. That circle is without substance and meaningless. Some people claim that all these objections are silly because God is simply unknowable. How do they know that God is unknowable?

The notion of God is nothing but a big mixture of contradictions and nothingness. There is no meaning behind the word and no concept to even define.

You'll find the definition of "god" in a dictionary.

The truth is no one knows what god is, how could we puny humans define god.

Well, then you need to take up your gripes with Merriam Webster. Maybe they'll remove their definition(s).
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8/25/2015 7:52:01 PM
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God is Truth independent of all bias. Reality as it truly is, beyond any abstraction. The Ultimate or Supreme Reality, the sustainer of all things.

The name that Moses gave for God commonly gets translated as "I am that I am" which can also be translated as "The way things are", "Existence Itself", or "It is what it is". This is the same God that is testified universally in all scripture, and indeed, has been testified of since the earliest days of recorded history.

Really, to deny God is foolishness. Your very experience testifies that there is some form of existence. To deny God is to say that there is no such thing as highest truth.

Atheism is either a position of ignorance or petulance. Anyone who actually understands what the concept means would not be so foolish as to deny it.

You have to understand that God and religion are not the same thing, and you are going to have a great deal of trouble grasping the concept if you have too much baggage attached to it.
"There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true." ~ Niels Bohr

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer
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8/25/2015 8:13:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/25/2015 6:59:00 AM, missmedic wrote:
The "concept" of God is usually defined by a lack of a definition. ...

Bible gives good definition for God. It just may be too hard for some to understand.

God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
John 4:24

He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.
1 John 4:8

We know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and he who remains in love remains in God, and God remains in him.
1 John 4:16

Sad thing is that not many seem to know or understand God.
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8/25/2015 9:52:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
this sentence caught my attention:

"Bible gives good definition for God. It just may be too hard for some to understand."

It made me think of this"

The Harry Potter books give a good definition of Harry Potter also,lol

If a person DON'T look OUTSIDE the book, they might get LOST in the stories...

just my 2 widows mites worth
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8/26/2015 2:33:06 AM
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At 8/25/2015 7:52:01 PM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
God is Truth independent of all bias. Reality as it truly is, beyond any abstraction. The Ultimate or Supreme Reality, the sustainer of all things.

Truth is the non-contradictory identification of reality, and there is only one reality, the one we all share. When accepting a statement as true, there are two basic methods. The first is reason. It is when the known evidence points to the statement being true, and when the truth of the statement doesn't contradict other knowledge. The second is faith. It is when one accepts a statement as true without evidence for it, or in the face of evidence against it. Reason is the process of thinking. Its fundamental attribute is clarity. The use of vague notions, fuzzy feelings, or "instincts" is not reason.

The name that Moses gave for God commonly gets translated as "I am that I am" which can also be translated as "The way things are", "Existence Itself", or "It is what it is". This is the same God that is testified universally in all scripture, and indeed, has been testified of since the earliest days of recorded history.

Really, to deny God is foolishness. Your very experience testifies that there is some form of existence. To deny God is to say that there is no such thing as highest truth.

Atheism is either a position of ignorance or petulance. Anyone who actually understands what the concept means would not be so foolish as to deny it.

You have to understand that God and religion are not the same thing, and you are going to have a great deal of trouble grasping the concept if you have too much baggage attached to it.
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8/26/2015 2:36:08 AM
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At 8/25/2015 8:13:22 PM, 12_13 wrote:
At 8/25/2015 6:59:00 AM, missmedic wrote:
The "concept" of God is usually defined by a lack of a definition. ...

Bible gives good definition for God. It just may be too hard for some to understand.

The bible does not meet the criteria for a credible source. So the bible would not meet the criteria to define god.

God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
John 4:24

He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.
1 John 4:8

We know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and he who remains in love remains in God, and God remains in him.
1 John 4:16

Sad thing is that not many seem to know or understand God.
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8/26/2015 1:03:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/25/2015 6:59:00 AM, missmedic wrote:
Good effort. But let me check, can I approach the lacks in your understanding!
The "concept" of God is usually defined by a lack of a definition. God is usually said to be unlimited in power, knowledge, and goodness and unknowable to us mere mortals; but these are all traits that are defined by a lack of something.

"God" is not a concept at all because it subsumes no particulars. Unlike a real concept, there is nothing in reality to which one can refer to and say, "That is God." To be unlimited in power, omnipotence, is a contradiction. To be unlimited in goodness, omnibenevolence, is taken without any standard of good. Regarding God, it is said that God is good. What is good? God's will. What characterizes God's will? Goodness. That circle is without substance and meaningless. Some people claim that all these objections are silly because God is simply unknowable. How do they know that God is unknowable?

The notion of God is nothing but a big mixture of contradictions and nothingness. There is no meaning behind the word and no concept to even define.

You have been focal to traits yourself. What define God primarily is "Necessary existence". That is to reason the results, caused by something definitely existing. Is there any contradiction here?
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8/26/2015 1:49:27 PM
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At 8/26/2015 2:33:06 AM, missmedic wrote:
At 8/25/2015 7:52:01 PM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
God is Truth independent of all bias. Reality as it truly is, beyond any abstraction. The Ultimate or Supreme Reality, the sustainer of all things.

Truth is the non-contradictory identification of reality, and there is only one reality, the one we all share. When accepting a statement as true, there are two basic methods. The first is reason. It is when the known evidence points to the statement being true, and when the truth of the statement doesn't contradict other knowledge. The second is faith. It is when one accepts a statement as true without evidence for it, or in the face of evidence against it. Reason is the process of thinking. Its fundamental attribute is clarity. The use of vague notions, fuzzy feelings, or "instincts" is not reason.


Read the rest of what I said. If you deny God, you don't understand what it means.

The name that Moses gave for God commonly gets translated as "I am that I am" which can also be translated as "The way things are", "Existence Itself", or "It is what it is". This is the same God that is testified universally in all scripture, and indeed, has been testified of since the earliest days of recorded history.

Really, to deny God is foolishness. Your very experience testifies that there is some form of existence. To deny God is to say that there is no such thing as highest truth.

Atheism is either a position of ignorance or petulance. Anyone who actually understands what the concept means would not be so foolish as to deny it.

You have to understand that God and religion are not the same thing, and you are going to have a great deal of trouble grasping the concept if you have too much baggage attached to it.
"There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true." ~ Niels Bohr

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer
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8/26/2015 2:09:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/26/2015 1:49:27 PM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 8/26/2015 2:33:06 AM, missmedic wrote:
At 8/25/2015 7:52:01 PM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
God is Truth independent of all bias. Reality as it truly is, beyond any abstraction. The Ultimate or Supreme Reality, the sustainer of all things.

Truth is the non-contradictory identification of reality, and there is only one reality, the one we all share. When accepting a statement as true, there are two basic methods. The first is reason. It is when the known evidence points to the statement being true, and when the truth of the statement doesn't contradict other knowledge. The second is faith. It is when one accepts a statement as true without evidence for it, or in the face of evidence against it. Reason is the process of thinking. Its fundamental attribute is clarity. The use of vague notions, fuzzy feelings, or "instincts" is not reason.


Read the rest of what I said. If you deny God, you don't understand what it means.

Yes, we understand what you're saying and reject it because it is all just hot air. It has nothing to do with denying any gods and everything to do with empty words and empty claims on your part.


The name that Moses gave for God commonly gets translated as "I am that I am" which can also be translated as "The way things are", "Existence Itself", or "It is what it is". This is the same God that is testified universally in all scripture, and indeed, has been testified of since the earliest days of recorded history.

Really, to deny God is foolishness. Your very experience testifies that there is some form of existence. To deny God is to say that there is no such thing as highest truth.

Atheism is either a position of ignorance or petulance. Anyone who actually understands what the concept means would not be so foolish as to deny it.

You have to understand that God and religion are not the same thing, and you are going to have a great deal of trouble grasping the concept if you have too much baggage attached to it.
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8/26/2015 5:46:40 PM
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It is a great shame that we cannot ask the people who invented gods what their definition would be.
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8/26/2015 7:02:43 PM
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this statement caught my attention:

"You have been focal to traits yourself. What define God primarily is "Necessary existence". That is to reason the results, caused by something definitely existing. Is there any contradiction here?"

the "Necessary existence" part is IN the superstitious MIND of the human.

there is no requirement for invisible Gods and such beyond the superstitious realm.

it is a FACT that the superstitious minded require the necessity of the existence of their many Gods some of no substance and invisible and others that are sticks stuck in the mud and worshiped as they have substance that can be seen with the eye.

I AM a god as I have substance and I take full responsibility for my thoughts and actions personally. No religious crutches or made up scientific theories required.

some would say that the presents under the X-MA$ tree are proof of Santa God.
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8/26/2015 7:11:30 PM
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I find it frustrating that people that insist on it have a hard time defining what it may even be. Try to talk about a god, and the goal-post shift under your feet. "No, God is the trees, and the flowers and......"
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8/26/2015 8:20:20 PM
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At 8/26/2015 1:49:27 PM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
At 8/26/2015 2:33:06 AM, missmedic wrote:
At 8/25/2015 7:52:01 PM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
God is Truth independent of all bias. Reality as it truly is, beyond any abstraction. The Ultimate or Supreme Reality, the sustainer of all things.

Truth is the non-contradictory identification of reality, and there is only one reality, the one we all share. When accepting a statement as true, there are two basic methods. The first is reason. It is when the known evidence points to the statement being true, and when the truth of the statement doesn't contradict other knowledge. The second is faith. It is when one accepts a statement as true without evidence for it, or in the face of evidence against it. Reason is the process of thinking. Its fundamental attribute is clarity. The use of vague notions, fuzzy feelings, or "instincts" is not reason.


Read the rest of what I said. If you deny God, you don't understand what it means.

I do not deny god, just the necessity of gods. Understand that man has invented thousand of gods over thousands of years and all have been myths, (except the christian god, of course). The proposition "at least one god exists" is false and/or meaningless because the application of such a proposition to one's life does not "work" " or at least does not create any meaningful difference in one's life as opposed to not applying it. If there's no practical difference between believing and not believe in any gods, then there's no practical difference between the existence and non-existence of any gods. Therefore, atheism should be adopted for purely pragmatic reasons.

The name that Moses gave for God commonly gets translated as "I am that I am" which can also be translated as "The way things are", "Existence Itself", or "It is what it is". This is the same God that is testified universally in all scripture, and indeed, has been testified of since the earliest days of recorded history.

Really, to deny God is foolishness. Your very experience testifies that there is some form of existence. To deny God is to say that there is no such thing as highest truth.

Atheism is either a position of ignorance or petulance. Anyone who actually understands what the concept means would not be so foolish as to deny it.

You have to understand that God and religion are not the same thing, and you are going to have a great deal of trouble grasping the concept if you have too much baggage attached to it.
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8/26/2015 8:21:07 PM
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At 8/26/2015 2:36:08 AM, missmedic wrote:
The bible does not meet the criteria for a credible source. So the bible would not meet the criteria to define god.

What would meet the criteria?

I would like to know what do you mean with God, if He is not what the Bible tells.

But ok, the word "god" is similar as the word "king", but higher in rank. God is the title for something that person keeps as the most high. For disciples of Jesus, Bible God is the highest and therefore their God.
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8/26/2015 8:50:15 PM
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At 8/25/2015 6:59:00 AM, missmedic wrote:
The "concept" of God is usually defined by a lack of a definition. God is usually said to be unlimited in power, knowledge, and goodness and unknowable to us mere mortals; but these are all traits that are defined by a lack of something.

"God" is not a concept at all because it subsumes no particulars. Unlike a real concept, there is nothing in reality to which one can refer to and say, "That is God." To be unlimited in power, omnipotence, is a contradiction. To be unlimited in goodness, omnibenevolence, is taken without any standard of good. Regarding God, it is said that God is good. What is good? God's will. What characterizes God's will? Goodness. That circle is without substance and meaningless. Some people claim that all these objections are silly because God is simply unknowable. How do they know that God is unknowable?

The notion of God is nothing but a big mixture of contradictions and nothingness. There is no meaning behind the word and no concept to even define.

It's a shame you don't know God and that you in your ignorance feel He is nothing. So listen up, this is what you're doing: you are blaming God for mankind's historical ability to accurately describe Him. You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater. So like you never heard Classical Music before. some people try to describe it with words and contrasting opinions on precise and technical definitions of major and minor chords and melodic structure and different musicians--like different Theologians--and it all leaves you dry and unsatisfied because their words really convey nothing to you. after all you never heard it. So you do a post that says "classical music sucks, it's nothing."

see how silly that is? blaming and dismissing "the thing" for the inept past interpretations of it.

Have you ever tried to know God on your own? or do ya just rely on others to tell you about Him? think about it.

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8/26/2015 9:51:33 PM
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At 8/25/2015 6:59:00 AM, missmedic wrote:
The "concept" of God is usually defined by a lack of a definition. God is usually said to be unlimited in power, knowledge, and goodness and unknowable to us mere mortals; but these are all traits that are defined by a lack of something.

"God" is not a concept at all because it subsumes no particulars. Unlike a real concept, there is nothing in reality to which one can refer to and say, "That is God." To be unlimited in power, omnipotence, is a contradiction. To be unlimited in goodness, omnibenevolence, is taken without any standard of good. Regarding God, it is said that God is good. What is good? God's will. What characterizes God's will? Goodness. That circle is without substance and meaningless. Some people claim that all these objections are silly because God is simply unknowable. How do they know that God is unknowable?

The notion of God is nothing but a big mixture of contradictions and nothingness. There is no meaning behind the word and no concept to even define.

The simple answer is that Jehovah is the source and creator of everything.

When you have said that, you have said it all really.

Like anyone who creates anything, he holds what he has created close to his heart.
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8/27/2015 2:11:34 AM
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At 8/26/2015 8:21:07 PM, 12_13 wrote:
At 8/26/2015 2:36:08 AM, missmedic wrote:
The bible does not meet the criteria for a credible source. So the bible would not meet the criteria to define god.

What would meet the criteria?

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I would like to know what do you mean with God, if He is not what the Bible tells.

A truly intellectually honest person would admit they do not know what god is, but I do know what god is not.

But ok, the word "god" is similar as the word "king", but higher in rank. God is the title for something that person keeps as the most high. For disciples of Jesus, Bible God is the highest and therefore their God.
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8/27/2015 2:28:50 AM
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At 8/26/2015 8:50:15 PM, August_Burns_Red wrote:
At 8/25/2015 6:59:00 AM, missmedic wrote:
The "concept" of God is usually defined by a lack of a definition. God is usually said to be unlimited in power, knowledge, and goodness and unknowable to us mere mortals; but these are all traits that are defined by a lack of something.

"God" is not a concept at all because it subsumes no particulars. Unlike a real concept, there is nothing in reality to which one can refer to and say, "That is God." To be unlimited in power, omnipotence, is a contradiction. To be unlimited in goodness, omnibenevolence, is taken without any standard of good. Regarding God, it is said that God is good. What is good? God's will. What characterizes God's will? Goodness. That circle is without substance and meaningless. Some people claim that all these objections are silly because God is simply unknowable. How do they know that God is unknowable?

The notion of God is nothing but a big mixture of contradictions and nothingness. There is no meaning behind the word and no concept to even define.


It's a shame you don't know God and that you in your ignorance feel He is nothing. So listen up, this is what you're doing: you are blaming God for mankind's historical ability to accurately describe Him. You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater. So like you never heard Classical Music before. some people try to describe it with words and contrasting opinions on precise and technical definitions of major and minor chords and melodic structure and different musicians--like different Theologians--and it all leaves you dry and unsatisfied because their words really convey nothing to you. after all you never heard it. So you do a post that says "classical music sucks, it's nothing."

see how silly that is? blaming and dismissing "the thing" for the inept past interpretations of it.

People often pretend to know things no one can know and call it faith, this is not a reliable path to knowledge, real knowledge is knowledge about reality.
The problem, as I see it, is the world is full of idiots; ones who are smart enough to understand basic subjects, but too stupid enough to ponder the greater issues in life. In the place of deep thought they leave a gap of wishful thinking and prayer, which eventually leads to creating imaginary sky daddies who believe in the same things we do " in turn leading to the ultimate arrogance that everything around us is not only made for us, but ours to do with as we please. The beauty of cognizance has led to the ugliness of arrogance. To believe " as many do " that we are not only the dominant species, but also that we deserve to be so; thinking we are the supreme reason for all things before and all to come is not only unattractive and outwardly repulsive, but wholly unsupported by any evidence. It sadly screams of true humanity. We are on the knife edge of an age where our mental capacity is slowly leading us to a realization of how little we really are in this universe, and how little we know, and once we all lose the wishful thinking and blatant arrogance of personal faith " one can only guess how quickly as a species we will advance beyond our imagination.

Have you ever tried to know God on your own? or do ya just rely on others to tell you about Him? think about it.

God Bless. (and He CAN Bless you--I guarantee it!
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8/27/2015 3:23:33 AM
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At 8/26/2015 8:50:15 PM, August_Burns_Red wrote:
At 8/25/2015 6:59:00 AM, missmedic wrote:
The "concept" of God is usually defined by a lack of a definition. God is usually said to be unlimited in power, knowledge, and goodness and unknowable to us mere mortals; but these are all traits that are defined by a lack of something.

"God" is not a concept at all because it subsumes no particulars. Unlike a real concept, there is nothing in reality to which one can refer to and say, "That is God." To be unlimited in power, omnipotence, is a contradiction. To be unlimited in goodness, omnibenevolence, is taken without any standard of good. Regarding God, it is said that God is good. What is good? God's will. What characterizes God's will? Goodness. That circle is without substance and meaningless. Some people claim that all these objections are silly because God is simply unknowable. How do they know that God is unknowable?

The notion of God is nothing but a big mixture of contradictions and nothingness. There is no meaning behind the word and no concept to even define.


It's a shame you don't know God and that you in your ignorance feel He is nothing. So listen up, this is what you're doing: you are blaming God for mankind's historical ability to accurately describe Him. You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater. So like you never heard Classical Music before. some people try to describe it with words and contrasting opinions on precise and technical definitions of major and minor chords and melodic structure and different musicians--like different Theologians--and it all leaves you dry and unsatisfied because their words really convey nothing to you. after all you never heard it. So you do a post that says "classical music sucks, it's nothing."

see how silly that is? blaming and dismissing "the thing" for the inept past interpretations of it.

That is a horrible analogy. Classical music can be detected by multiple senses - it can be heard, the orchestra can be seen playing it, the music can be felt, etc.

Can god be detected by any of the senses? If not, then how in the world can you define him much less claim he/she/it is a part of reality?

Have you ever tried to know God on your own? or do ya just rely on others to tell you about Him? think about it.

God Bless. (and He CAN Bless you--I guarantee it!

While this is not technically "classical music" I could not resist - enjoy!

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8/27/2015 9:12:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/27/2015 2:11:34 AM, missmedic wrote:
A truly intellectually honest person would admit they do not know what god is, but I do know what god is not.

Sad thing, if you don"t see the contradiction and paradox in that.
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8/28/2015 7:52:31 AM
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At 8/26/2015 7:02:43 PM, Electric-Eccentric wrote:
this statement caught my attention:

"You have been focal to traits yourself. What define God primarily is "Necessary existence". That is to reason the results, caused by something definitely existing. Is there any contradiction here?"

the "Necessary existence" part is IN the superstitious MIND of the human.

there is no requirement for invisible Gods and such beyond the superstitious realm.
No. Necessary existence is essential for every possible existent to exist.

it is a FACT that the superstitious minded require the necessity of the existence of their many Gods some of no substance and invisible and others that are sticks stuck in the mud and worshiped as they have substance that can be seen with the eye.
Your stated fact is more worthy to be named as a superstition. You haven't verified your fact considerably.

I AM a god as I have substance and I take full responsibility for my thoughts and actions personally. No religious crutches or made up scientific theories required.
And once you was not. And then you'll not be? Then you'll not have substance. Do you take the responsibility for your non-substantive dead thought? Then why you define your substance & thought as yourself?

some would say that the presents under the X-MA$ tree are proof of Santa God.
No, I wouldn't say that.
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8/28/2015 11:43:13 AM
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At 8/26/2015 5:46:40 PM, desmac wrote:
It is a great shame that we cannot ask the people who invented gods what their definition would be.

According to the writer of psalms, gods are people. (Psalm 82:6)
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8/28/2015 12:38:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/28/2015 11:43:13 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 8/26/2015 5:46:40 PM, desmac wrote:
It is a great shame that we cannot ask the people who invented gods what their definition would be.

According to the writer of psalms, gods are people. (Psalm 82:6)

Actually it's the other way round. Some people are gods, in that they have authority over others. Scripture uses a very wide definition of the term god, to mean anyone in authority.
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8/28/2015 2:53:50 PM
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At 8/28/2015 12:38:46 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 8/28/2015 11:43:13 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 8/26/2015 5:46:40 PM, desmac wrote:
It is a great shame that we cannot ask the people who invented gods what their definition would be.

According to the writer of psalms, gods are people. (Psalm 82:6)

Actually it's the other way round. Some people are gods, in that they have authority over others. Scripture uses a very wide definition of the term god, to mean anyone in authority.

Ah, so you believe you're God. Hilarious.
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8/28/2015 3:09:56 PM
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At 8/25/2015 7:52:01 PM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
God is Truth independent of all bias. Reality as it truly is, beyond any abstraction. The Ultimate or Supreme Reality, the sustainer of all things.

The name that Moses gave for God commonly gets translated as "I am that I am" which can also be translated as "The way things are", "Existence Itself", or "It is what it is". This is the same God that is testified universally in all scripture, and indeed, has been testified of since the earliest days of recorded history.

No it can not be translated as "the way things are". The name is within its gematria, a set of frequencies wherein its replication of sound has been known to have induced feelings of tranquility, and to produced benefits of healing. I could provide more details if you wish. The exact frequency is paramount to exploiting the benefits of the name.

Really, to deny God is foolishness. Your very experience testifies that there is some form of existence. To deny God is to say that there is no such thing as highest truth.

Atheism is either a position of ignorance or petulance. Anyone who actually understands what the concept means would not be so foolish as to deny it.

You have to understand that God and religion are not the same thing, and you are going to have a great deal of trouble grasping the concept if you have too much baggage attached to it.