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9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.
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9/7/2015 2:12:20 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.
David?
"The afternoon came down as imperceptibly as age comes to a happy man. A little gold entered into the sunlight. The bay became bluer and dimpled with shore-wind ripples. Those lonely fishermen who believe that the fish bite at high tide left their rocks, and their places were taken by others, who were convinced that the fish bite at low tide." (John Steinbeck; Tortilla Flat, 1935)
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9/7/2015 3:55:41 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 2:12:20 AM, tstor wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.
David? : :

Servant David is God's thoughts where we were all born. The Servant David will be known by ALL God's people in the next age called the New Heaven and Earth.

Servant David is also known as the Word of the Lord, or the Voice of the Lord.

Ezekiel 34
22: I will save my flock, they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep.
23: And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.
24: And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken.
Harikrish
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9/7/2015 4:01:20 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 3:55:41 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:12:20 AM, tstor wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.
David? : :

Servant David is God's thoughts where we were all born. The Servant David will be known by ALL God's people in the next age called the New Heaven and Earth.

Servant David is also known as the Word of the Lord, or the Voice of the Lord.

Ezekiel 34
22: I will save my flock, they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep.
23: And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.
24: And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken.

That prophesy has already been fulfilled. David became king and passed his kingdom onto Solomon when he died. You need to work on your scriptures, Brad.
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9/7/2015 4:02:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 3:55:41 AM, b_sorelson wrote:

Servant David is God's thoughts where we were all born. The Servant David will be known by ALL God's people in the next age called the New Heaven and Earth.

Servant David is also known as the Word of the Lord, or the Voice of the Lord.

Ezekiel 34
22: I will save my flock, they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep.
23: And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.
24: And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken.
So does that mean I have read God's thoughts?
"The afternoon came down as imperceptibly as age comes to a happy man. A little gold entered into the sunlight. The bay became bluer and dimpled with shore-wind ripples. Those lonely fishermen who believe that the fish bite at high tide left their rocks, and their places were taken by others, who were convinced that the fish bite at low tide." (John Steinbeck; Tortilla Flat, 1935)
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9/7/2015 4:05:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 4:01:20 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 9/7/2015 3:55:41 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:12:20 AM, tstor wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.
David? : :

Servant David is God's thoughts where we were all born. The Servant David will be known by ALL God's people in the next age called the New Heaven and Earth.

Servant David is also known as the Word of the Lord, or the Voice of the Lord.

Ezekiel 34
22: I will save my flock, they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep.
23: And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.
24: And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken.

That prophesy has already been fulfilled. David became king and passed his kingdom onto Solomon when he died. You need to work on your scriptures, Brad. : :

Are you sure you're not Jewish? LOL !!!!!!! Actually, most Christians are deceived by the prophecies, too.
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9/7/2015 4:09:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 4:05:08 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 4:01:20 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 9/7/2015 3:55:41 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:12:20 AM, tstor wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.
David? : :

Servant David is God's thoughts where we were all born. The Servant David will be known by ALL God's people in the next age called the New Heaven and Earth.

Servant David is also known as the Word of the Lord, or the Voice of the Lord.

Ezekiel 34
22: I will save my flock, they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep.
23: And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.
24: And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken.

That prophesy has already been fulfilled. David became king and passed his kingdom onto Solomon when he died. You need to work on your scriptures, Brad. : :

Are you sure you're not Jewish? LOL !!!!!!! Actually, most Christians are deceived by the prophecies, too.

That is the least of your problems. You are scripturally illiterate.
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9/7/2015 4:39:56 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 4:02:00 AM, tstor wrote:
At 9/7/2015 3:55:41 AM, b_sorelson wrote:

Servant David is God's thoughts where we were all born. The Servant David will be known by ALL God's people in the next age called the New Heaven and Earth.

Servant David is also known as the Word of the Lord, or the Voice of the Lord.

Ezekiel 34
22: I will save my flock, they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep.
23: And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.
24: And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken.
So does that mean I have read God's thoughts? : :

All thoughts come from God. Some come as Satan and the Beast and other's come as Christ. However, all these thoughts are invisible and can only be believed by God's people.

Are you thinking from the Beast and Satan, Christ or all of them?
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9/7/2015 4:41:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 4:09:55 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 9/7/2015 4:05:08 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 4:01:20 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 9/7/2015 3:55:41 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:12:20 AM, tstor wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.
David? : :

Servant David is God's thoughts where we were all born. The Servant David will be known by ALL God's people in the next age called the New Heaven and Earth.

Servant David is also known as the Word of the Lord, or the Voice of the Lord.

Ezekiel 34
22: I will save my flock, they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep.
23: And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.
24: And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken.

That prophesy has already been fulfilled. David became king and passed his kingdom onto Solomon when he died. You need to work on your scriptures, Brad. : :

Are you sure you're not Jewish? LOL !!!!!!! Actually, most Christians are deceived by the prophecies, too.

That is the least of your problems. You are scripturally illiterate. : :

You are not a born again saint who is used by God to testify to His knowledge. If anyone trusts your words, they will be totally deceived.
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9/7/2015 4:57:16 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.

You must be a Hindu. They believe also in God.
b_sorelson
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9/7/2015 4:59:20 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 4:57:16 AM, uncung wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.

You must be a Hindu. They believe also in God. : :

You must be focused on the wrong thread.
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9/7/2015 5:30:07 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 4:41:04 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 4:09:55 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 9/7/2015 4:05:08 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 4:01:20 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 9/7/2015 3:55:41 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:12:20 AM, tstor wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.
David? : :

Servant David is God's thoughts where we were all born. The Servant David will be known by ALL God's people in the next age called the New Heaven and Earth.

Servant David is also known as the Word of the Lord, or the Voice of the Lord.

Ezekiel 34
22: I will save my flock, they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep.
23: And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.
24: And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken.

That prophesy has already been fulfilled. David became king and passed his kingdom onto Solomon when he died. You need to work on your scriptures, Brad. : :

Are you sure you're not Jewish? LOL !!!!!!! Actually, most Christians are deceived by the prophecies, too.

That is the least of your problems. You are scripturally illiterate. : :

You are not a born again saint who is used by God to testify to His knowledge. If anyone trusts your words, they will be totally deceived.

And you are Brad Holkesvig.

You wrote:"The flesh called bornofgod in this forum is the liar that God has to keep under control by humbling him. bornofgod is Brad Holkesvig in the flesh that God is using to reveal Himself and His knowledge. Brad Holkesvig is the flesh that is going to be killed according to God's plan. Brad Holkesvig is nothing but an illusion and a liar. I could care less about Brad Holkesvig and his life here in this world which will be destroyed by Me, very soon. "
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9/7/2015 5:47:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.

No proof is needed to reject an unwarranted belief in an unsubstantiated claim (God exists).
This thread is like eavesdropping on a conversation in a mental asylum. - Bulproof

You can call your invisible friends whatever you like. - Desmac

What the hell kind of coked up sideshow has this thread turned into. - Casten
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9/7/2015 5:59:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 5:47:21 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.

No proof is needed to reject an unwarranted belief in an unsubstantiated claim (God exists). : :

It's all about belief, not physical proof.
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9/7/2015 6:15:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 5:59:25 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 5:47:21 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.

No proof is needed to reject an unwarranted belief in an unsubstantiated claim (God exists). : :

It's all about belief, not physical proof.

belief requires also qualified proof. You must know Hindu also believe that Cows are Gods incarnation.
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9/7/2015 6:35:41 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 6:15:21 AM, uncung wrote:
At 9/7/2015 5:59:25 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 5:47:21 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.

No proof is needed to reject an unwarranted belief in an unsubstantiated claim (God exists). : :

It's all about belief, not physical proof.

belief requires also qualified proof. You must know Hindu also believe that Cows are Gods incarnation.: :

When you listen to a history teacher teach about the past, do you need proof of the thoughts that the teacher is using to teach you with?
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9/7/2015 6:46:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 6:35:41 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 6:15:21 AM, uncung wrote:
At 9/7/2015 5:59:25 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 5:47:21 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.

No proof is needed to reject an unwarranted belief in an unsubstantiated claim (God exists). : :

It's all about belief, not physical proof.

belief requires also qualified proof. You must know Hindu also believe that Cows are Gods incarnation.: :

When you listen to a history teacher teach about the past, do you need proof of the thoughts that the teacher is using to teach you with?

History always provides the proof. If not then it would be fallen into myth.
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9/7/2015 6:56:58 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 6:46:23 AM, uncung wrote:
At 9/7/2015 6:35:41 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 6:15:21 AM, uncung wrote:
At 9/7/2015 5:59:25 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 5:47:21 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.

No proof is needed to reject an unwarranted belief in an unsubstantiated claim (God exists). : :

It's all about belief, not physical proof.

belief requires also qualified proof. You must know Hindu also believe that Cows are Gods incarnation.: :

When you listen to a history teacher teach about the past, do you need proof of the thoughts that the teacher is using to teach you with?

History always provides the proof. If not then it would be fallen into myth. : :

History is the worst proof there is because it's all subjective. When someone finds bones in the ground and tells a story about those bones such as evolution, you can only believe the story teller. The bones are not evidence that the story is true.
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9/7/2015 7:03:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 6:56:58 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 6:46:23 AM, uncung wrote:
At 9/7/2015 6:35:41 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 6:15:21 AM, uncung wrote:
At 9/7/2015 5:59:25 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 5:47:21 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:07:13 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
To argue whether God exists or not is futile because God cannot be seen. He is outside of His creation.

If you are looking for proof, then I consider you atheists and theists come together and say, "I don't know who God is".

Those of you who do know God cannot change anyone's thoughts. You can't even change your own thoughts.

God bless those who know God,
Your trusted Servant David.

No proof is needed to reject an unwarranted belief in an unsubstantiated claim (God exists). : :

It's all about belief, not physical proof.

belief requires also qualified proof. You must know Hindu also believe that Cows are Gods incarnation.: :

When you listen to a history teacher teach about the past, do you need proof of the thoughts that the teacher is using to teach you with?

History always provides the proof. If not then it would be fallen into myth. : :

History is the worst proof there is because it's all subjective. When someone finds bones in the ground and tells a story about those bones such as evolution, you can only believe the story teller. The bones are not evidence that the story is true.

Changing your name to David isn't gonna help you much. You're the same old lunatic, no matter what name you're under.
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9/7/2015 7:23:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
All a person has to do is ask himself a question along the lines of: "If it turns out I was wrong about God's existence or God's nature, would I feel that my life's efforts were largely wasted?"

No proof required if your priorities in life would remain largely unchanged either way.

Humorous anecdote regarding that idea:

I remember hearing a church teacher paraphrase Paul: "If Christ did not, in fact, die for our sins, then we might as well head down to the bar!"

I remember thinking, "Actually, that doesn't sound like a bad idea either way!"
"You don't have a right to be a jerk."
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9/7/2015 7:37:50 AM
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History always provides the proof. If not then it would be fallen into myth. : :

History is the worst proof there is because it's all subjective. When someone finds bones in the ground and tells a story about those bones such as evolution, you can only believe the story teller. The bones are not evidence that the story is true.

then it is your task to disprove them.
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9/7/2015 7:55:05 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 7:23:51 AM, Fly wrote:
All a person has to do is ask himself a question along the lines of: "If it turns out I was wrong about God's existence or God's nature, would I feel that my life's efforts were largely wasted?"

No proof required if your priorities in life would remain largely unchanged either way.

Humorous anecdote regarding that idea:

I remember hearing a church teacher paraphrase Paul: "If Christ did not, in fact, die for our sins, then we might as well head down to the bar!"

I remember thinking, "Actually, that doesn't sound like a bad idea either way!" : :

I'll meet you at the bar and preach Christ to you.
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9/7/2015 7:56:17 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 7:37:50 AM, uncung wrote:
History always provides the proof. If not then it would be fallen into myth. : :

History is the worst proof there is because it's all subjective. When someone finds bones in the ground and tells a story about those bones such as evolution, you can only believe the story teller. The bones are not evidence that the story is true.

then it is your task to disprove them. : :

I could care less where bones came from. I do know that all the bones that die in this world will melt in hot molten lava soon.
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9/7/2015 1:05:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 7:56:17 AM, b_sorelson wrote:
At 9/7/2015 7:37:50 AM, uncung wrote:
History always provides the proof. If not then it would be fallen into myth. : :

History is the worst proof there is because it's all subjective. When someone finds bones in the ground and tells a story about those bones such as evolution, you can only believe the story teller. The bones are not evidence that the story is true.

then it is your task to disprove them. : :

I could care less where bones came from. I do know that all the bones that die in this world will melt in hot molten lava soon.

Yea... I'm just going to refer you to my Sig. This thread has been completely derailed by nonsense.
This thread is like eavesdropping on a conversation in a mental asylum. - Bulproof

You can call your invisible friends whatever you like. - Desmac

What the hell kind of coked up sideshow has this thread turned into. - Casten