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9/11/2015 7:25:52 PM
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--Final Scenes Passion of the Christ Death Resurrection

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--Asscending towards Heaven

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9/11/2015 7:31:48 PM
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At 9/11/2015 7:25:52 PM, Sooner wrote:
--Final Scenes Passion of the Christ Death Resurrection

https://youtu.be...


--Asscending towards Heaven

https://youtu.be... : :

Great imaginations working together.
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9/11/2015 8:24:00 PM
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At 9/11/2015 7:51:34 PM, Sooner wrote:
Prophecy in Action

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There's one major sign that everyone is missing but that sign cannot be found. It can only be presented to an individual during this second witness.
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9/11/2015 8:29:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 7:25:52 PM, Sooner wrote:
--Final Scenes Passion of the Christ Death Resurrection

https://youtu.be...


--Asscending towards Heaven

https://youtu.be...

Why do you people get off on the gore so much.
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9/12/2015 7:59:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Do beautiful people bring division in families?

Matt 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
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9/12/2015 10:11:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 7:25:52 PM, Sooner wrote:
--Final Scenes Passion of the Christ Death Resurrection

https://youtu.be...


--Asscending towards Heaven

https://youtu.be...

Why didn't the guy stick around on earth instead of playing silly beggars and conveniently going up to heaven? Then we would all know for certain he actually resurrected!
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9/12/2015 4:27:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 7:59:34 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Do beautiful people bring division in families?

Matt 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

If your father molested you, absolutely. This is a reference speaking of the "spirit of adoption". There are "Christian based" families who do not divide and are united their entire lives. God adopts some out of toxic families and turns them towards His family, the church. Notice in the video, which gives the verse as well, he tells Mary ,"Behold your son!" Then he tells His disciple,"Behild, your mother!" Is he really her son genetically? No. But he is her son in the family of God.
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9/12/2015 4:31:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 8:29:35 PM, TBR wrote:
At 9/11/2015 7:25:52 PM, Sooner wrote:
--Final Scenes Passion of the Christ Death Resurrection

https://youtu.be...


--Asscending towards Heaven

https://youtu.be...

Why do you people get off on the gore so much.

According to the Biblical account, this "gore" is very, very played down.
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9/12/2015 4:38:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
According to the Biblical account, this "gore" is very, very played down.

Still doesn't answer the question.
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9/12/2015 4:52:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 4:38:55 PM, TBR wrote:
According to the Biblical account, this "gore" is very, very played down.

Still doesn't answer the question.

I don't "get off on gore". The vent was horrific whether I like it or not.
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9/12/2015 4:54:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
King James Version-
"For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."
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9/12/2015 5:02:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
If they were more blunt and 100% true to the text, there would be blood churning and flowing down his body, and a soldier stabbing him with a spear in which all kinds of liquids and juices would be squirting out. And this is all after a 40+ lashing with the cat of 9 tails which rips the flesh off of your body. But there is a moderation on what they actually show because it would be beyond disturbing.
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9/12/2015 5:03:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
And at least He has a decent sized loin cloth covering Him in this version.
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9/12/2015 9:58:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 5:03:55 PM, Sooner wrote:
And at least He has a decent sized loin cloth covering Him in this version.

The character would have been naked if the soldiers cast lots for his clothes.
They would have torn his clothes off before they crucified him.
Do you really think if anyone whipped and tortured a person, tore off their clothes and crucified them, that anyone would care about politely covering his loins?
Only prudish people worry about things like that.

There is nothing beautiful about people torturing other people.
The artistic portrayal of Jesus on the cross is a fantasy.

In reality many people in the past have been tortured and condemned to death for things they did not do. They all paid for the sins of those who unjustly and wrongly condemned them. They paid with their lives.
Were they all beautiful people too?

If they had been judged as beautiful people before they were condemned they would not have been condemned in the first place.

Jesus is that disgusting nude homeless person you condemn on earth today.
Read Matt 25:31-46

There is nothing beautiful about him.
Isaiah 53:2 ...... he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
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9/12/2015 11:29:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 9:58:43 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 9/12/2015 5:03:55 PM, Sooner wrote:
And at least He has a decent sized loin cloth covering Him in this version.

The character would have been naked if the soldiers cast lots for his clothes.
They would have torn his clothes off before they crucified him.
Do you really think if anyone whipped and tortured a person, tore off their clothes and crucified them, that anyone would care about politely covering his loins?
Only prudish people worry about things like that.

There is nothing beautiful about people torturing other people.
The artistic portrayal of Jesus on the cross is a fantasy.

In reality many people in the past have been tortured and condemned to death for things they did not do. They all paid for the sins of those who unjustly and wrongly condemned them. They paid with their lives.
Were they all beautiful people too?

If they had been judged as beautiful people before they were condemned they would not have been condemned in the first place.

Jesus is that disgusting nude homeless person you condemn on earth today.
Read Matt 25:31-46

There is nothing beautiful about him.
Isaiah 53:2 ...... he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

No one said crucifixion was beautiful. The thread says Jesus was a beautiful person.
Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away.
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9/12/2015 11:32:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 9:58:43 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 9/12/2015 5:03:55 PM, Sooner wrote:
And at least He has a decent sized loin cloth covering Him in this version.

The character would have been naked if the soldiers cast lots for his clothes.
They would have torn his clothes off before they crucified him.
Do you really think if anyone whipped and tortured a person, tore off their clothes and crucified them, that anyone would care about politely covering his loins?
Only prudish people worry about things like that.

There is nothing beautiful about people torturing other people.
The artistic portrayal of Jesus on the cross is a fantasy.

In reality many people in the past have been tortured and condemned to death for things they did not do. They all paid for the sins of those who unjustly and wrongly condemned them. They paid with their lives.
Were they all beautiful people too?

If they had been judged as beautiful people before they were condemned they would not have been condemned in the first place.

Jesus is that disgusting nude homeless person you condemn on earth today.
Read Matt 25:31-46

There is nothing beautiful about him.
Isaiah 53:2 ...... he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

Actually Pontius Pilot washed his hands of Jesus' blood in front of the mob for the opposite reason of what you are saying. He said Jesus appeared to be nonthreatening andan innocent man.
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9/12/2015 11:35:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 11:29:43 PM, Sooner wrote:
At 9/12/2015 9:58:43 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 9/12/2015 5:03:55 PM, Sooner wrote:
And at least He has a decent sized loin cloth covering Him in this version.

The character would have been naked if the soldiers cast lots for his clothes.
They would have torn his clothes off before they crucified him.
Do you really think if anyone whipped and tortured a person, tore off their clothes and crucified them, that anyone would care about politely covering his loins?
Only prudish people worry about things like that.

There is nothing beautiful about people torturing other people.
The artistic portrayal of Jesus on the cross is a fantasy.

In reality many people in the past have been tortured and condemned to death for things they did not do. They all paid for the sins of those who unjustly and wrongly condemned them. They paid with their lives.
Were they all beautiful people too?

If they had been judged as beautiful people before they were condemned they would not have been condemned in the first place.

Jesus is that disgusting nude homeless person you condemn on earth today.
Read Matt 25:31-46

There is nothing beautiful about him.
Isaiah 53:2 ...... he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

No one said crucifixion was beautiful. The thread says Jesus was a beautiful person.

Isaiah 53:2 says there is nothing beautiful about him.

Should people believe your opinion or Isaiahs prophecy?
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9/12/2015 11:37:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 11:35:33 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 9/12/2015 11:29:43 PM, Sooner wrote:
At 9/12/2015 9:58:43 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 9/12/2015 5:03:55 PM, Sooner wrote:
And at least He has a decent sized loin cloth covering Him in this version.

The character would have been naked if the soldiers cast lots for his clothes.
They would have torn his clothes off before they crucified him.
Do you really think if anyone whipped and tortured a person, tore off their clothes and crucified them, that anyone would care about politely covering his loins?
Only prudish people worry about things like that.

There is nothing beautiful about people torturing other people.
The artistic portrayal of Jesus on the cross is a fantasy.

In reality many people in the past have been tortured and condemned to death for things they did not do. They all paid for the sins of those who unjustly and wrongly condemned them. They paid with their lives.
Were they all beautiful people too?

If they had been judged as beautiful people before they were condemned they would not have been condemned in the first place.

Jesus is that disgusting nude homeless person you condemn on earth today.
Read Matt 25:31-46

There is nothing beautiful about him.
Isaiah 53:2 ...... he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

No one said crucifixion was beautiful. The thread says Jesus was a beautiful person.

Isaiah 53:2 says there is nothing beautiful about him.

Should people believe your opinion or Isaiahs prophecy?

Isaiah is talking about his physical appearance. I am talking about his beauty as a person. Big difference.
Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away.
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9/12/2015 11:47:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
New International Version
(Isaiah 53:2)
He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
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9/12/2015 11:47:32 PM
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At 9/12/2015 11:32:05 PM, Sooner wrote:
At 9/12/2015 9:58:43 PM, Skyangel wrote:

The artistic portrayal of Jesus on the cross is a fantasy.

In reality many people in the past have been tortured and condemned to death for things they did not do. They all paid for the sins of those who unjustly and wrongly condemned them. They paid with their lives.
Were they all beautiful people too?

If they had been judged as beautiful people before they were condemned they would not have been condemned in the first place.

Jesus is that disgusting nude homeless person you condemn on earth today.
Read Matt 25:31-46

There is nothing beautiful about him.
Isaiah 53:2 ...... he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

Actually Pontius Pilot washed his hands of Jesus' blood in front of the mob for the opposite reason of what you are saying. He said Jesus appeared to be nonthreatening andan innocent man.

Obviously his opinion made no difference to anyone and neither does yours.
People will always believe their own opinions more than anyone elses.
When a crowd decides to condemn a person, it makes no difference if the person is innocent or guilty of the crime, the masses ultimate decision is final even when the masses are wrong.
It is sad that so many simply go along with the flow of the masses and are led astray by popular opinions.
However, the concept of "majority rules" seems to be what most people like to follow.

Ironically enough the bible teaches the masses are on the wide road to destruction. That suggests the masses are heading down the wrong road.
FEW are on the right path.

Apply that concept to todays world and understand MANY believe in an invisible character and idolize that character. FEW do not.

According to biblical principles who is right and who is wrong? The MANY or the FEW?
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9/12/2015 11:57:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 11:37:11 PM, Sooner wrote:
At 9/12/2015 11:35:33 PM, Skyangel wrote:

Isaiah 53:2 says there is nothing beautiful about him.

Should people believe your opinion or Isaiahs prophecy?

Isaiah is talking about his physical appearance. I am talking about his beauty as a person. Big difference.

Most people can't see past outward appearances when they judge others. Most people on line can't even see past the words people write.
Readers judge people according to the words on the screen and have no clue about the reasons or motives behind the words.

The character Jesus in the story was perceived as good by some and perceived as evil by others.

Any real people walking this planet today can be seen in the same way and judged as good by some and as evil by others.

Such is life in reality. People obviously have opposite opinions and perceptions and believe themselves more than anyone else.

Look for the good in people and you will find it. Look for the evil in them and you will also find that. People find what they are looking for even if the "evidence" they find is a figment of their imagination.
The illusions of the mind are very real.
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9/13/2015 12:08:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 11:57:21 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 9/12/2015 11:37:11 PM, Sooner wrote:
At 9/12/2015 11:35:33 PM, Skyangel wrote:

Isaiah 53:2 says there is nothing beautiful about him.

Should people believe your opinion or Isaiahs prophecy?

Isaiah is talking about his physical appearance. I am talking about his beauty as a person. Big difference.

Most people can't see past outward appearances when they judge others. Most people on line can't even see past the words people write.
Readers judge people according to the words on the screen and have no clue about the reasons or motives behind the words.

The character Jesus in the story was perceived as good by some and perceived as evil by others.

Any real people walking this planet today can be seen in the same way and judged as good by some and as evil by others.

Such is life in reality. People obviously have opposite opinions and perceptions and believe themselves more than anyone else.

Look for the good in people and you will find it. Look for the evil in them and you will also find that. People find what they are looking for even if the "evidence" they find is a figment of their imagination.
The illusions of the mind are very real.

He taught love your enemy, don't judge others, help the poor, patience, mercy, forrgiveness. If someone sees that as evil...
Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away.
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9/13/2015 4:02:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 5:02:59 PM, Sooner wrote:
If they were more blunt and 100% true to the text, there would be blood churning and flowing down his body, and a soldier stabbing him with a spear in which all kinds of liquids and juices would be squirting out. And this is all after a 40+ lashing with the cat of 9 tails which rips the flesh off of your body. But there is a moderation on what they actually show because it would be beyond disturbing.

Did god bring that back from the future in his Delorean?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/13/2015 4:06:06 AM
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At 9/13/2015 4:02:55 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/12/2015 5:02:59 PM, Sooner wrote:
If they were more blunt and 100% true to the text, there would be blood churning and flowing down his body, and a soldier stabbing him with a spear in which all kinds of liquids and juices would be squirting out. And this is all after a 40+ lashing with the cat of 9 tails which rips the flesh off of your body. But there is a moderation on what they actually show because it would be beyond disturbing.

Did god bring that back from the future in his Delorean? : :

No. God is bringing his bloody body back in the clouds, didn't you know that my friend? How else will Christians know who their Jesus is?
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9/13/2015 4:06:31 AM
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At 9/13/2015 12:08:38 AM, Sooner wrote:
At 9/12/2015 11:57:21 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 9/12/2015 11:37:11 PM, Sooner wrote:
At 9/12/2015 11:35:33 PM, Skyangel wrote:

Isaiah 53:2 says there is nothing beautiful about him.

Should people believe your opinion or Isaiahs prophecy?

Isaiah is talking about his physical appearance. I am talking about his beauty as a person. Big difference.

Most people can't see past outward appearances when they judge others. Most people on line can't even see past the words people write.
Readers judge people according to the words on the screen and have no clue about the reasons or motives behind the words.

The character Jesus in the story was perceived as good by some and perceived as evil by others.

Any real people walking this planet today can be seen in the same way and judged as good by some and as evil by others.

Such is life in reality. People obviously have opposite opinions and perceptions and believe themselves more than anyone else.

Look for the good in people and you will find it. Look for the evil in them and you will also find that. People find what they are looking for even if the "evidence" they find is a figment of their imagination.
The illusions of the mind are very real.

He taught love your enemy, don't judge others, help the poor, patience, mercy, forrgiveness. If someone sees that as evil...

The character actually never taught anyone to not judge others. The concept taught is to not judge unjustly but judge righteous judgement.
The example he set was to call a spade a spade.

The people who judged the character as unjust and evil in the story were the religious who Jesus had judged as being hypocritical children of the devil.

It is generally those religious hypocrites today who claim no one ought to judge others as they themselves judge others as being unsaved or unrighteous or evil or "not really christian" because they do not believe in the same doctrines they believe.

They like to teach that judging people is evil to make people feel bad for judging their hypocrisy. They don't like being judged as hypocrites but that is exactly what they are.
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9/13/2015 4:09:34 AM
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At 9/13/2015 4:02:55 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/12/2015 5:02:59 PM, Sooner wrote:
If they were more blunt and 100% true to the text, there would be blood churning and flowing down his body, and a soldier stabbing him with a spear in which all kinds of liquids and juices would be squirting out. And this is all after a 40+ lashing with the cat of 9 tails which rips the flesh off of your body. But there is a moderation on what they actually show because it would be beyond disturbing.

Did god bring that back from the future in his Delorean? : :

By the way, welcome back from your vacation. I resist going on vacation because I'm a hard working saint of the Lord's who knows that Christians caused the apostasy that kept everyone from knowing what the true Word of God means. It's certainly not a Bible.
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9/13/2015 4:11:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/13/2015 4:09:34 AM, witness2 wrote:
At 9/13/2015 4:02:55 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/12/2015 5:02:59 PM, Sooner wrote:
If they were more blunt and 100% true to the text, there would be blood churning and flowing down his body, and a soldier stabbing him with a spear in which all kinds of liquids and juices would be squirting out. And this is all after a 40+ lashing with the cat of 9 tails which rips the flesh off of your body. But there is a moderation on what they actually show because it would be beyond disturbing.

Did god bring that back from the future in his Delorean? : :

By the way, welcome back from your vacation. I resist going on vacation because I'm a hard working saint of the Lord's who knows that Christians caused the apostasy that kept everyone from knowing what the true Word of God means. It's certainly not a Bible.
Thanks! Whoever you are. LOL
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin