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joetheripper117
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9/18/2015 11:56:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

It is great that religion is becoming more tolerant, good for Wales.
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9/19/2015 12:01:33 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/18/2015 11:56:13 PM, joetheripper117 wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

It is great that religion is becoming more tolerant, good for Wales.

Its awful. Such sinners should be removed for ignoring the bible.
DanneJeRusse
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9/19/2015 12:22:56 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

You lose, bigot. Haha.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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9/19/2015 12:39:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 12:01:33 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/18/2015 11:56:13 PM, joetheripper117 wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

It is great that religion is becoming more tolerant, good for Wales.

Its awful. Such sinners should be removed for ignoring the bible.

Don't worry, if you try hard enough, I'm sure you'll find a new verse in the bible from which to launch another barrage of bigoted hatred towards some other group of people. Maybe you should try the shellfish crowd, you could stand outside seafood restaurants shouting, "Die you shellfish eating scum!"
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
UniversalTheologian
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9/19/2015 12:43:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
When are they going to back marriage between man and sheep?

Sorry Wales, I couldn't resist.
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9/19/2015 12:45:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
A Christian should abstain from sexual immorality. The world does these things, and we aren't to judge them. However, Christians are not supposed to do these things.

Homosexual unions do not result in offspring. How does this reflect salvation of the human race? It doesn't. It's rather treasonous to the species.
"There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true." ~ Niels Bohr

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer
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9/19/2015 1:03:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 12:45:43 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
A Christian should abstain from sexual immorality. The world does these things, and we aren't to judge them. However, Christians are not supposed to do these things.

Homosexual unions do not result in offspring. How does this reflect salvation of the human race? It doesn't. It's rather treasonous to the species.

Not every marriage- including the hetero variety- results in procreation. Get a clue.

If you're "literally done" with this issue, then stop whining and stop judging. Like your book tells you to do.
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9/19/2015 1:37:32 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 12:45:43 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
A Christian should abstain from sexual immorality. The world does these things, and we aren't to judge them. However, Christians are not supposed to do these things.

And, you are free to do or not do whatever sexual things you do, we aren't going to impose on you, but we also don't want you to impose your alleged Christians morals on us.

Homosexual unions do not result in offspring. How does this reflect salvation of the human race? It doesn't. It's rather treasonous to the species.

So, we don't have enough humans on the planet, you want more? I would suspect you would all be in favor of homosexual reunions that don't result in offspring, you then need not worry of their genes staying in the gene pool. You Christians can therefore proliferate.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
bulproof
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9/19/2015 3:21:41 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

So it would seem that only the "fun(d)y" christians are stupid bigots then.
HOORAH.
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9/19/2015 8:51:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

I do hope that you keep to your word.
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9/19/2015 9:02:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 12:45:43 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
A Christian should abstain from sexual immorality. The world does these things, and we aren't to judge them. However, Christians are not supposed to do these things.

Homosexual unions do not result in offspring. How does this reflect salvation of the human race? It doesn't. It's rather treasonous to the species.

The species is not in the least endangered by homosexuality, much as it's not endangered by celibacy, you know, that precious piece of advice Paul had to pass down to his male spiritual brothers.

If homosexuality is immoral on grounds of its inability to produce offspring, so is heterosexual marriage without children. You should be calling for an upper age limit to marriage, the ruling out of marriage when one of the spouses is irreparably infertile, and a requirement of X number of children for any marriage to be considered valid.

All dumb things, granted, but all corollaries of your logic.
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9/19/2015 10:54:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

Only very sick bigots thinks there is anything wrong with being homosexual and wishing to marry!
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9/19/2015 11:05:18 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 12:45:43 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
A Christian should abstain from sexual immorality. The world does these things, and we aren't to judge them. However, Christians are not supposed to do these things.

Homosexual unions do not result in offspring. How does this reflect salvation of the human race? It doesn't. It's rather treasonous to the species.

Homosexuality is a condition people are born with. This is a proven fact. No one can dispute this. the reasons some people are homosexuality occurs in the human race is hard to understand. My personal belief is that in early stages of foetal development some sort of defect occurs regarding the sexual desires of the foetus. It is also claimed that homosexuality played a role in early human cultures as some sort of way for a dominant male to assert dominance over weaker individuals. I do not believe in any form of discrimination against homosexuals. However in the mythical world of Christianity homosexuality is clearly forbidden so it seems strange how clergy can just change rules to move with the times.
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9/19/2015 11:31:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 11:05:18 AM, beng100 wrote:
At 9/19/2015 12:45:43 AM, UniversalTheologian wrote:
A Christian should abstain from sexual immorality. The world does these things, and we aren't to judge them. However, Christians are not supposed to do these things.

Homosexual unions do not result in offspring. How does this reflect salvation of the human race? It doesn't. It's rather treasonous to the species.

Homosexuality is a condition people are born with. This is a proven fact. No one can dispute this. the reasons some people are homosexuality occurs in the human race is hard to understand. My personal belief is that in early stages of foetal development some sort of defect occurs regarding the sexual desires of the foetus. It is also claimed that homosexuality played a role in early human cultures as some sort of way for a dominant male to assert dominance over weaker individuals. I do not believe in any form of discrimination against homosexuals. However in the mythical world of Christianity homosexuality is clearly forbidden so it seems strange how clergy can just change rules to move with the times.

Agreed. Many liberal "Christians" today just ignore anything in the bible they find problematic. I'm surprised they don't just revise the bible to remove "problematic" verses in true liberal fashion.
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9/19/2015 11:31:30 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 10:54:44 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

Only very sick bigots thinks there is anything wrong with being homosexual and wishing to marry!

Oh wah wah. Why don't you try arguing with me instead of shouting bigot. It's so overused it means nothing to most people.
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9/19/2015 11:33:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 12:22:56 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

You lose, bigot. Haha.

WAH!!! WAH!!! You're just a bigot! I don't have to argue with you I just have to call you a name and I win!!!
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9/19/2015 11:34:53 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 10:54:44 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

Only very sick bigots thinks there is anything wrong with being homosexual and wishing to marry!

Oh wah wah. Why don't you try arguing with me instead of shouting bigot. It's so overused it means nothing to most people.
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9/19/2015 11:45:58 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 11:33:13 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 12:22:56 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

You lose, bigot. Haha.

WAH!!! WAH!!! You're just a bigot! I don't have to argue with you I just have to call you a name and I win!!!
You haven't made an argument little boy.
You don't know anything to be able to argue.
A self abusing fundamentalist child expecting the bigotry he's been inculcated with to be respected, how very DROLL.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/19/2015 11:49:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 11:34:53 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 10:54:44 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

Only very sick bigots thinks there is anything wrong with being homosexual and wishing to marry!

Oh wah wah. Why don't you try arguing with me instead of shouting bigot. It's so overused it means nothing to most people.

In your opinion, is homosexuality immoral because God said so, or is there a reason behind such pronouncement?
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9/19/2015 11:54:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 11:49:54 AM, Hitchian wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:34:53 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 10:54:44 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

Only very sick bigots thinks there is anything wrong with being homosexual and wishing to marry!

Oh wah wah. Why don't you try arguing with me instead of shouting bigot. It's so overused it means nothing to most people.

In your opinion, is homosexuality immoral because God said so, or is there a reason behind such pronouncement?

Because god says so and same sex marriages are not allowed (this doesn't stop churches doing it anyway) it's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.
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9/19/2015 11:57:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 11:54:55 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:49:54 AM, Hitchian wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:34:53 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 10:54:44 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

Only very sick bigots thinks there is anything wrong with being homosexual and wishing to marry!

Oh wah wah. Why don't you try arguing with me instead of shouting bigot. It's so overused it means nothing to most people.

In your opinion, is homosexuality immoral because God said so, or is there a reason behind such pronouncement?

Because god says so and same sex marriages are not allowed (this doesn't stop churches doing it anyway) it's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.

Not what I asked you.

Is there anything, anything at all, besides God saying so that renders homosexuality immoral?
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9/19/2015 12:03:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 11:54:55 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:49:54 AM, Hitchian wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:34:53 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 10:54:44 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

Only very sick bigots thinks there is anything wrong with being homosexual and wishing to marry!

Oh wah wah. Why don't you try arguing with me instead of shouting bigot. It's so overused it means nothing to most people.

In your opinion, is homosexuality immoral because God said so, or is there a reason behind such pronouncement?

Because god says so and same sex marriages are not allowed (this doesn't stop churches doing it anyway) it's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.

Adam and Eve is just another fairy tale, Goldilocks is better.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/19/2015 12:08:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 12:03:27 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:54:55 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:49:54 AM, Hitchian wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:34:53 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 10:54:44 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

Only very sick bigots thinks there is anything wrong with being homosexual and wishing to marry!

Oh wah wah. Why don't you try arguing with me instead of shouting bigot. It's so overused it means nothing to most people.

In your opinion, is homosexuality immoral because God said so, or is there a reason behind such pronouncement?

Because god says so and same sex marriages are not allowed (this doesn't stop churches doing it anyway) it's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.

Adam and Eve is just another fairy tale, Goldilocks is better.

Adam and Eve were real!
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9/19/2015 12:09:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 11:54:55 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:49:54 AM, Hitchian wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:34:53 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 10:54:44 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

Only very sick bigots thinks there is anything wrong with being homosexual and wishing to marry!

Oh wah wah. Why don't you try arguing with me instead of shouting bigot. It's so overused it means nothing to most people.

In your opinion, is homosexuality immoral because God said so, or is there a reason behind such pronouncement?

Because god says so and same sex marriages are not allowed (this doesn't stop churches doing it anyway) it's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.

If the deity said any such thing it should be strung up by its dangly bits! Sick bigots want to excuse their bigotry by using the not so good book!
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9/19/2015 12:18:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 11:34:53 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 10:54:44 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

Only very sick bigots thinks there is anything wrong with being homosexual and wishing to marry!

Oh wah wah. Why don't you try arguing with me instead of shouting bigot. It's so overused it means nothing to most people.

So you are literally NOT done with this nonsense. Just another lie.
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9/19/2015 12:22:10 PM
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At 9/19/2015 12:08:37 PM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 12:03:27 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:54:55 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:49:54 AM, Hitchian wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:34:53 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 10:54:44 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

Only very sick bigots thinks there is anything wrong with being homosexual and wishing to marry!

Oh wah wah. Why don't you try arguing with me instead of shouting bigot. It's so overused it means nothing to most people.

In your opinion, is homosexuality immoral because God said so, or is there a reason behind such pronouncement?

Because god says so and same sex marriages are not allowed (this doesn't stop churches doing it anyway) it's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.

Adam and Eve is just another fairy tale, Goldilocks is better.

Adam and Eve were real!

How do you know?
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9/19/2015 12:23:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 12:18:46 PM, desmac wrote:
At 9/19/2015 11:34:53 AM, Mobutu wrote:
At 9/19/2015 10:54:44 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 9/18/2015 9:07:34 PM, Mobutu wrote:
marriage.
I'm literally done with this nonsense. http://www.premier.org.uk...

Only very sick bigots thinks there is anything wrong with being homosexual and wishing to marry!

Oh wah wah. Why don't you try arguing with me instead of shouting bigot. It's so overused it means nothing to most people.

So you are literally NOT done with this nonsense. Just another lie.

A liar as well as the sickest of sick bigots!