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Illegalcombatant
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10/3/2015 11:58:52 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
If you believe that under "atheism" life is without value since it all comes to an end, yet you find value of this life because of the existence of an after life, will you require that after life to have an after life so it too has value ?
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
Lech_I
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10/3/2015 6:13:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I believe in afterlife.

When I die, I will be in heaven with all the people that are disabled on eath.
Illegalcombatant
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10/4/2015 11:17:05 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 1:28:53 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
No because it wouldn't end. (Blank look)

But duration doesn't make a pointless existence anymore non pointless, it just makes it longer.

So an after life that never ends doesn't help you here.
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
JJ50
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10/4/2015 11:22:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/3/2015 6:13:19 PM, Lech_I wrote:
I believe in afterlife.

When I die, I will be in heaven with all the people that are disabled on eath.

Why do you believe that?
bulproof
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10/4/2015 12:26:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/3/2015 6:13:19 PM, Lech_I wrote:
I believe in afterlife.

When I die, I will be in heaven with all the people that are disabled on eath.
And exactly what is the plan you have for spending eternity not disabled?
Now remember, that from what I've been told eternity isn't a picnic it's forever, which is a long time.
Please tell us what you will be doing for ETERNITY?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
dsjpk5
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10/4/2015 12:29:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/3/2015 11:58:52 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
If you believe that under "atheism" life is without value since it all comes to an end, yet you find value of this life because of the existence of an after life, will you require that after life to have an after life so it too has value ?

No.
If that was the only issue, then vote moderation could be avoided more often, since a vote in which the voter does explain sufficiently how at least one point a debater made swung their vote, would be considered sufficient. -Airmax
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10/4/2015 12:38:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 12:29:43 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/3/2015 11:58:52 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
If you believe that under "atheism" life is without value since it all comes to an end, yet you find value of this life because of the existence of an after life, will you require that after life to have an after life so it too has value ?

No.

Why not?
What are you going to do for ETERNITY?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
dsjpk5
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10/4/2015 12:47:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 12:38:56 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:29:43 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/3/2015 11:58:52 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
If you believe that under "atheism" life is without value since it all comes to an end, yet you find value of this life because of the existence of an after life, will you require that after life to have an after life so it too has value ?

No.

Why not?
What are you going to do for ETERNITY?

Live in perfect happiness.
If that was the only issue, then vote moderation could be avoided more often, since a vote in which the voter does explain sufficiently how at least one point a debater made swung their vote, would be considered sufficient. -Airmax
bulproof
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10/4/2015 1:02:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 12:47:50 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:38:56 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:29:43 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/3/2015 11:58:52 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
If you believe that under "atheism" life is without value since it all comes to an end, yet you find value of this life because of the existence of an after life, will you require that after life to have an after life so it too has value ?

No.

Why not?
What are you going to do for ETERNITY?

Live in perfect happiness.
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what that would be?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of how long eternity is?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what boredom is now, imagine eternity doing exactly the same sh*t?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of the only way that can happen is if you are programmed to it, an automaton?
I'm betting you haven't.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
dsjpk5
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10/4/2015 1:13:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 1:02:24 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:47:50 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:38:56 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:29:43 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/3/2015 11:58:52 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
If you believe that under "atheism" life is without value since it all comes to an end, yet you find value of this life because of the existence of an after life, will you require that after life to have an after life so it too has value ?

No.

Why not?
What are you going to do for ETERNITY?

Live in perfect happiness.
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what that would be?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of how long eternity is?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what boredom is now, imagine eternity doing exactly the same sh*t?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of the only way that can happen is if you are programmed to it, an automaton?
I'm betting you haven't.

Well, you are mistaken. The answer is yes.
If that was the only issue, then vote moderation could be avoided more often, since a vote in which the voter does explain sufficiently how at least one point a debater made swung their vote, would be considered sufficient. -Airmax
bulproof
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10/4/2015 1:22:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 1:13:37 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:02:24 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:47:50 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:38:56 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:29:43 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/3/2015 11:58:52 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
If you believe that under "atheism" life is without value since it all comes to an end, yet you find value of this life because of the existence of an after life, will you require that after life to have an after life so it too has value ?

No.

Why not?
What are you going to do for ETERNITY?

Live in perfect happiness.
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what that would be?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of how long eternity is?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what boredom is now, imagine eternity doing exactly the same sh*t?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of the only way that can happen is if you are programmed to it, an automaton?
I'm betting you haven't.

Well, you are mistaken. The answer is yes.

You didn't "answer" any of my questions.
You are obviously to afraid to subject your beliefs to the light that would shine on them if you ever did.
It's OK, you just become one of the cavemen that created your beliefs.
Good luck.
I really need to tell you though that there is the only life you have to live right here right now. You can deny that all you want, it just won't help you at the end.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
dsjpk5
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10/4/2015 1:48:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 1:22:59 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:13:37 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:02:24 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:47:50 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:38:56 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:29:43 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/3/2015 11:58:52 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
If you believe that under "atheism" life is without value since it all comes to an end, yet you find value of this life because of the existence of an after life, will you require that after life to have an after life so it too has value ?

No.

Why not?
What are you going to do for ETERNITY?

Live in perfect happiness.
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what that would be?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of how long eternity is?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what boredom is now, imagine eternity doing exactly the same sh*t?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of the only way that can happen is if you are programmed to it, an automaton?
I'm betting you haven't.

Well, you are mistaken. The answer is yes.

You didn't "answer" any of my questions.
You are obviously to afraid to subject your beliefs to the light that would shine on them if you ever did.
It's OK, you just become one of the cavemen that created your beliefs.
Good luck.
I really need to tell you though that there is the only life you have to live right here right now. You can deny that all you want, it just won't help you at the end.

You asked yes/no questions, so you got a yes/no answer.
If that was the only issue, then vote moderation could be avoided more often, since a vote in which the voter does explain sufficiently how at least one point a debater made swung their vote, would be considered sufficient. -Airmax
bulproof
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10/4/2015 1:54:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 1:48:36 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:22:59 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:13:37 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:02:24 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:47:50 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:38:56 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:29:43 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/3/2015 11:58:52 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
If you believe that under "atheism" life is without value since it all comes to an end, yet you find value of this life because of the existence of an after life, will you require that after life to have an after life so it too has value ?

No.

Why not?
What are you going to do for ETERNITY?

Live in perfect happiness.
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what that would be?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of how long eternity is?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what boredom is now, imagine eternity doing exactly the same sh*t?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of the only way that can happen is if you are programmed to it, an automaton?
I'm betting you haven't.

Well, you are mistaken. The answer is yes.

You didn't "answer" any of my questions.
You are obviously to afraid to subject your beliefs to the light that would shine on them if you ever did.
It's OK, you just become one of the cavemen that created your beliefs.
Good luck.
I really need to tell you though that there is the only life you have to live right here right now. You can deny that all you want, it just won't help you at the end.


You asked yes/no questions, so you got a yes/no answer.
Fear is your greatest friend when you have religion, but especially Catholicism.
Hell baby, HELL.
Never ever think about your indoctrination, or else HELL baby HELL.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
dsjpk5
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10/4/2015 2:09:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 1:54:45 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:48:36 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:22:59 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:13:37 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:02:24 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:47:50 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:38:56 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:29:43 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/3/2015 11:58:52 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
If you believe that under "atheism" life is without value since it all comes to an end, yet you find value of this life because of the existence of an after life, will you require that after life to have an after life so it too has value ?

No.

Why not?
What are you going to do for ETERNITY?

Live in perfect happiness.
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what that would be?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of how long eternity is?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what boredom is now, imagine eternity doing exactly the same sh*t?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of the only way that can happen is if you are programmed to it, an automaton?
I'm betting you haven't.

Well, you are mistaken. The answer is yes.

You didn't "answer" any of my questions.
You are obviously to afraid to subject your beliefs to the light that would shine on them if you ever did.
It's OK, you just become one of the cavemen that created your beliefs.
Good luck.
I really need to tell you though that there is the only life you have to live right here right now. You can deny that all you want, it just won't help you at the end.


You asked yes/no questions, so you got a yes/no answer.
Fear is your greatest friend when you have religion, but especially Catholicism.
Hell baby, HELL.
Never ever think about your indoctrination, or else HELL baby HELL.

I've thought about it numerous times
If that was the only issue, then vote moderation could be avoided more often, since a vote in which the voter does explain sufficiently how at least one point a debater made swung their vote, would be considered sufficient. -Airmax
Dazz
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10/5/2015 6:02:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 11:17:05 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:28:53 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
No because it wouldn't end. (Blank look)

But duration doesn't make a pointless existence anymore non pointless, it just makes it longer.
Getting Longer is an adjective of something "limited" that ends up at death. Whereas considering that afterlife has no death, it doesn't pose a question of getting worried about another afterlife2 in "afterlife1", since afterlife1 has no progressive afterlife, because only this limited life is a place of actions, not the eternal one afterlife.

So an after life that never ends doesn't help you here.
Remove the "I want", remainder is the "peace". ~Al-Ghazali~
"This time will also pass", a dose to cure both; the excitement & the grievance. ~Ayaz~
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10/5/2015 6:41:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 11:17:05 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:28:53 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
No because it wouldn't end. (Blank look)

But duration doesn't make a pointless existence anymore non pointless, it just makes it longer.

So an after life that never ends doesn't help you here.

Sure it does. An eternal afterlife would not have an afterlife because it never ends. How can you go on to another life if the one you are in has no ending?

A life that ends with no afterlife has no eternal aftereffects. It is all in vain. Sure we may do what we are instinctively designed to do but then what? We then are not even a memory. We leave nothing behind in the long run. It is like we never existed at all. Eternal life after death brings meaning and purpose to everyth8ng you do or say because your ripple is eternal and never ending.
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10/5/2015 6:47:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 6:41:42 PM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 11:17:05 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:28:53 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
No because it wouldn't end. (Blank look)

But duration doesn't make a pointless existence anymore non pointless, it just makes it longer.

So an after life that never ends doesn't help you here.

Sure it does. An eternal afterlife would not have an afterlife because it never ends. How can you go on to another life if the one you are in has no ending?

A life that ends with no afterlife has no eternal aftereffects. It is all in vain. Sure we may do what we are instinctively designed to do but then what? We then are not even a memory. We leave nothing behind in the long run. It is like we never existed at all. Eternal life after death brings meaning and purpose to everyth8ng you do or say because your ripple is eternal and never ending. : :

Life is understood by God's created people but not the flesh of man who thinks he is real.
Illegalcombatant
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10/6/2015 6:26:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 6:41:42 PM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 11:17:05 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:28:53 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
No because it wouldn't end. (Blank look)

But duration doesn't make a pointless existence anymore non pointless, it just makes it longer.

So an after life that never ends doesn't help you here.

Sure it does. An eternal afterlife would not have an afterlife because it never ends. How can you go on to another life if the one you are in has no ending?

A life that ends with no afterlife has no eternal aftereffects. It is all in vain. Sure we may do what we are instinctively designed to do but then what? We then are not even a memory. We leave nothing behind in the long run. It is like we never existed at all. Eternal life after death brings meaning and purpose to everyth8ng you do or say because your ripple is eternal and never ending.

Again duration doesn't help you here, riding an eternal "ripple" it just an appeal to duration it seems to me.
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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10/6/2015 9:51:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 6:41:42 PM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
A life that ends with no afterlife has no eternal aftereffects. It is all in vain. Sure we may do what we are instinctively designed to do but then what? We then are not even a memory. We leave nothing behind in the long run. It is like we never existed at all.
And let's face it, you are so much more important than that, in fact you are the most important thing in the entire universe, your hubris can't be extinguished just like that.
It is imperative that you go on living even after you die, you are so very special.
LMFAO
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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10/6/2015 4:49:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 1:22:59 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:13:37 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 1:02:24 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:47:50 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:38:56 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/4/2015 12:29:43 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 10/3/2015 11:58:52 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
If you believe that under "atheism" life is without value since it all comes to an end, yet you find value of this life because of the existence of an after life, will you require that after life to have an after life so it too has value ?

No.

Why not?
What are you going to do for ETERNITY?

Live in perfect happiness.
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what that would be?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of how long eternity is?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of what boredom is now, imagine eternity doing exactly the same sh*t?
Have you ever actually put your intelligence to the question of the only way that can happen is if you are programmed to it, an automaton?
I'm betting you haven't.

Well, you are mistaken. The answer is yes.

You didn't "answer" any of my questions.

No he didn't. Why is that a problem bully? Tell us.