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MadCornishBiker
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10/5/2015 3:17:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
In January a new mid week meeting format is to be introduced.

Want to see a sample of how it is expected to go?

Then watch this:

http://tv.jw.org...

It ;lasts about an hour, as the meeting will but you can skip bits if you want.

Note however that even the children comment, albeit simply.
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10/5/2015 4:13:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 3:17:25 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In January a new mid week meeting format is to be introduced.

Want to see a sample of how it is expected to go?

Then watch this:

http://tv.jw.org...

It ;lasts about an hour, as the meeting will but you can skip bits if you want.

Note however that even the children comment, albeit simply.

As would the "adults", they have no choice.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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10/5/2015 4:19:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 4:13:07 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:17:25 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In January a new mid week meeting format is to be introduced.

Want to see a sample of how it is expected to go?

Then watch this:

http://tv.jw.org...

It ;lasts about an hour, as the meeting will but you can skip bits if you want.

Note however that even the children comment, albeit simply.

As would the "adults", they have no choice.

Wrong again. They have a choice. They don't have to comment at all if they don't wish, but of course you just proved yet another saying to be true.

Only a fool comments on a matter they have not yet heard, lol.
truth_is_was_will_be
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10/5/2015 5:24:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 3:17:25 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In January a new mid week meeting format is to be introduced.

Want to see a sample of how it is expected to go?

Then watch this:

http://tv.jw.org...

It ;lasts about an hour, as the meeting will but you can skip bits if you want.

Note however that even the children comment, albeit simply. : :

None of God's saints had to direct God's believers to a place to hear the truth. All they had to do was open up their mouth and start speaking for God.
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10/5/2015 6:05:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 3:17:25 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In January a new mid week meeting format is to be introduced.

Want to see a sample of how it is expected to go?

Then watch this:

http://tv.jw.org...

It ;lasts about an hour, as the meeting will but you can skip bits if you want.

Note however that even the children comment, albeit simply.

This is a trivial matter and trying to pass this for something other than the banality that it is shows to what extent ordinary Witnesses are burnt out. The governing body is merely repackaging, rehashing old content in a slightly shinier package.

Children do not comment. Children regurgitate what they've been indoctrinated with. In fact that's what most witnesses do, quite often citing word for word what the publications say. Meetings are dangerously close to collective brainswashing sessions. Anyone who publicly expresses the slightest - the slightest - deviation from official doctrine is reprehended, all the way to outright shunned.

Sites and channels you might want to consider:

http://jwsurvey.org...
https://www.youtube.com...
https://www.youtube.com...
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10/5/2015 6:24:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 6:05:31 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:17:25 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In January a new mid week meeting format is to be introduced.

Want to see a sample of how it is expected to go?

Then watch this:

http://tv.jw.org...

It ;lasts about an hour, as the meeting will but you can skip bits if you want.

Note however that even the children comment, albeit simply.

This is a trivial matter and trying to pass this for something other than the banality that it is shows to what extent ordinary Witnesses are burnt out. The governing body is merely repackaging, rehashing old content in a slightly shinier package.

Children do not comment. Children regurgitate what they've been indoctrinated with. In fact that's what most witnesses do, quite often citing word for word what the publications say. Meetings are dangerously close to collective brainswashing sessions. Anyone who publicly expresses the slightest - the slightest - deviation from official doctrine is reprehended, all the way to outright shunned.

Sites and channels you might want to consider:

http://jwsurvey.org...
https://www.youtube.com...
https://www.youtube.com...

I am a disfellowshipped, or as you would put it shunned, one, but despite that I will still continue to call you on your lies.

They are nothing more or less that the continuation of that "cult of the Jews" that became known as Christians, revived in this worlds time of need to provide the way of being reconciled with God in due time.

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10/5/2015 6:37:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 6:05:31 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:17:25 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In January a new mid week meeting format is to be introduced.

Want to see a sample of how it is expected to go?

Then watch this:

http://tv.jw.org...

It ;lasts about an hour, as the meeting will but you can skip bits if you want.

Note however that even the children comment, albeit simply.

This is a trivial matter and trying to pass this for something other than the banality that it is shows to what extent ordinary Witnesses are burnt out. The governing body is merely repackaging, rehashing old content in a slightly shinier package.

Children do not comment. Children regurgitate what they've been indoctrinated with. In fact that's what most witnesses do, quite often citing word for word what the publications say. Meetings are dangerously close to collective brainswashing sessions. Anyone who publicly expresses the slightest - the slightest - deviation from official doctrine is reprehended, all the way to outright shunned.

Sites and channels you might want to consider:

http://jwsurvey.org...
https://www.youtube.com...
https://www.youtube.com... : :

That's why it's important to send your children to public schools who don't support religious dogma. This helps some children escape the religious garbage taught to them by their religious parents, pastors and teachers.
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10/5/2015 6:38:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 6:24:43 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/5/2015 6:05:31 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:17:25 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In January a new mid week meeting format is to be introduced.

Want to see a sample of how it is expected to go?

Then watch this:

http://tv.jw.org...

It ;lasts about an hour, as the meeting will but you can skip bits if you want.

Note however that even the children comment, albeit simply.

This is a trivial matter and trying to pass this for something other than the banality that it is shows to what extent ordinary Witnesses are burnt out. The governing body is merely repackaging, rehashing old content in a slightly shinier package.

Children do not comment. Children regurgitate what they've been indoctrinated with. In fact that's what most witnesses do, quite often citing word for word what the publications say. Meetings are dangerously close to collective brainswashing sessions. Anyone who publicly expresses the slightest - the slightest - deviation from official doctrine is reprehended, all the way to outright shunned.

Sites and channels you might want to consider:

http://jwsurvey.org...
https://www.youtube.com...
https://www.youtube.com...

I am a disfellowshipped, or as you would put it shunned, one, but despite that I will still continue to call you on your lies.

They are nothing more or less that the continuation of that "cult of the Jews" that became known as Christians, revived in this worlds time of need to provide the way of being reconciled with God in due time.

The JW's came into being from the same Christian cults that have been operating since the Jews started Christianity.
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10/5/2015 8:52:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 6:38:29 PM, truth_is_was_will_be wrote:
At 10/5/2015 6:24:43 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/5/2015 6:05:31 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:17:25 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In January a new mid week meeting format is to be introduced.

Want to see a sample of how it is expected to go?

Then watch this:

http://tv.jw.org...

It ;lasts about an hour, as the meeting will but you can skip bits if you want.

Note however that even the children comment, albeit simply.

This is a trivial matter and trying to pass this for something other than the banality that it is shows to what extent ordinary Witnesses are burnt out. The governing body is merely repackaging, rehashing old content in a slightly shinier package.

Children do not comment. Children regurgitate what they've been indoctrinated with. In fact that's what most witnesses do, quite often citing word for word what the publications say. Meetings are dangerously close to collective brainswashing sessions. Anyone who publicly expresses the slightest - the slightest - deviation from official doctrine is reprehended, all the way to outright shunned.

Sites and channels you might want to consider:

http://jwsurvey.org...
https://www.youtube.com...
https://www.youtube.com...

I am a disfellowshipped, or as you would put it shunned, one, but despite that I will still continue to call you on your lies.

They are nothing more or less that the continuation of that "cult of the Jews" that became known as Christians, revived in this worlds time of need to provide the way of being reconciled with God in due time.

The JW's came into being from the same Christian cults that have been operating since the Jews started Christianity.

I hope that in a few decades the Witnesses merit no more than a terse footnote in a contemporary religion Encyclopaedia.
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10/5/2015 8:56:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 8:52:10 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/5/2015 6:38:29 PM, truth_is_was_will_be wrote:
At 10/5/2015 6:24:43 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/5/2015 6:05:31 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:17:25 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In January a new mid week meeting format is to be introduced.

Want to see a sample of how it is expected to go?

Then watch this:

http://tv.jw.org...

It ;lasts about an hour, as the meeting will but you can skip bits if you want.

Note however that even the children comment, albeit simply.

This is a trivial matter and trying to pass this for something other than the banality that it is shows to what extent ordinary Witnesses are burnt out. The governing body is merely repackaging, rehashing old content in a slightly shinier package.

Children do not comment. Children regurgitate what they've been indoctrinated with. In fact that's what most witnesses do, quite often citing word for word what the publications say. Meetings are dangerously close to collective brainswashing sessions. Anyone who publicly expresses the slightest - the slightest - deviation from official doctrine is reprehended, all the way to outright shunned.

Sites and channels you might want to consider:

http://jwsurvey.org...
https://www.youtube.com...
https://www.youtube.com...

I am a disfellowshipped, or as you would put it shunned, one, but despite that I will still continue to call you on your lies.

They are nothing more or less that the continuation of that "cult of the Jews" that became known as Christians, revived in this worlds time of need to provide the way of being reconciled with God in due time.

The JW's came into being from the same Christian cults that have been operating since the Jews started Christianity.

I hope that in a few decades the Witnesses merit no more than a terse footnote in a contemporary religion Encyclopaedia. : :

You don't have anything to worry about. God has planned to destroy all religions of this world soon.
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10/6/2015 4:19:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
*spews violently at the garbage of JWs*

*wipes chin*

Sorry about that, it's just that...*gag*
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10/6/2015 4:27:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 4:19:40 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:13:07 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:17:25 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In January a new mid week meeting format is to be introduced.

Want to see a sample of how it is expected to go?

Then watch this:

http://tv.jw.org...

It ;lasts about an hour, as the meeting will but you can skip bits if you want.

Note however that even the children comment, albeit simply.

As would the "adults", they have no choice.

Wrong again. They have a choice. They don't have to comment at all if they don't wish,
No silly I'm writing in English. The adults don't have a choice because they are simple and can only make simple comments, they have no choice.
but of course you just proved yet another saying to be true.

Only a fool comments on a matter they have not yet heard, lol.
But absolute fools are more likely to comment on matters they can't understand, like you mad.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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10/6/2015 5:50:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/6/2015 4:27:37 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:40 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:13:07 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:17:25 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In January a new mid week meeting format is to be introduced.

Want to see a sample of how it is expected to go?

Then watch this:

http://tv.jw.org...

It ;lasts about an hour, as the meeting will but you can skip bits if you want.

Note however that even the children comment, albeit simply.

As would the "adults", they have no choice.

Wrong again. They have a choice. They don't have to comment at all if they don't wish,
No silly I'm writing in English. The adults don't have a choice because they are simple and can only make simple comments, they have no choice.
but of course you just proved yet another saying to be true.

Only a fool comments on a matter they have not yet heard, lol.
But absolute fools are more likely to comment on matters they can't understand, like you mad.

If I don;t understand it, I don't talk about it.

Simple as.

That is why my conversation is so limited.
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10/6/2015 5:51:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/6/2015 4:19:59 PM, AWSM0055 wrote:
*spews violently at the garbage of JWs*

*wipes chin*

Sorry about that, it's just that...*gag*

No worries, if you choke on the truth that says a lot about you, doesn't it.
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10/6/2015 5:52:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 8:56:09 PM, truth_is_was_will_be wrote:
At 10/5/2015 8:52:10 PM, Hitchian wrote:


You don't have anything to worry about. God has planned to destroy all religions of this world soon.

Yup, all but the JWs. After all, they are his own.
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10/6/2015 5:57:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 8:52:10 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/5/2015 6:38:29 PM, truth_is_was_will_be wrote:


I hope that in a few decades the Witnesses merit no more than a terse footnote in a contemporary religion Encyclopaedia.

In a short while there will be no other religion, and no need for religious encyclopaedias.

That's what Armageddon is all about, removing all who oppose God from this planet.

And since the only ones who don't oppose him are the JWs......................

As Christ said.

"He who is not with me is against me.

He who does not gather with me, scatters".

There are no neutrals in this "war".

Those who wish to be a part of Jehovah's plans for the earth will live eternally on a paradise earth.

Those who do not wish to be a part of it will be destroyed.

It will be a shame for any to lose out on the beauties Jehovah puts in front of us, but we know that the vast majority will do just that.
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10/6/2015 5:59:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 6:38:29 PM, truth_is_was_will_be wrote:
At 10/5/2015 6:24:43 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/5/2015 6:05:31 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:17:25 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
In January a new mid week meeting format is to be introduced.

Want to see a sample of how it is expected to go?

Then watch this:

http://tv.jw.org...

It ;lasts about an hour, as the meeting will but you can skip bits if you want.

Note however that even the children comment, albeit simply.

This is a trivial matter and trying to pass this for something other than the banality that it is shows to what extent ordinary Witnesses are burnt out. The governing body is merely repackaging, rehashing old content in a slightly shinier package.

Children do not comment. Children regurgitate what they've been indoctrinated with. In fact that's what most witnesses do, quite often citing word for word what the publications say. Meetings are dangerously close to collective brainswashing sessions. Anyone who publicly expresses the slightest - the slightest - deviation from official doctrine is reprehended, all the way to outright shunned.

Sites and channels you might want to consider:

http://jwsurvey.org...
https://www.youtube.com...
https://www.youtube.com...

I am a disfellowshipped, or as you would put it shunned, one, but despite that I will still continue to call you on your lies.

They are nothing more or less that the continuation of that "cult of the Jews" that became known as Christians, revived in this worlds time of need to provide the way of being reconciled with God in due time.

The JW's came into being from the same Christian cults that have been operating since the Jews started Christianity.

Yes, they did, but they are simply a revival of the original form of worship that started n the Garden of Eden. Worship+ by lifestyle.
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10/6/2015 6:26:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/6/2015 5:57:04 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/5/2015 8:52:10 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/5/2015 6:38:29 PM, truth_is_was_will_be wrote:


I hope that in a few decades the Witnesses merit no more than a terse footnote in a contemporary religion Encyclopaedia.

In a short while there will be no other religion, and no need for religious encyclopaedias.

That's what Armageddon is all about, removing all who oppose God from this planet.

And since the only ones who don't oppose him are the JWs......................

As Christ said.

"He who is not with me is against me.

He who does not gather with me, scatters".

There are no neutrals in this "war".

Those who wish to be a part of Jehovah's plans for the earth will live eternally on a paradise earth.

Those who do not wish to be a part of it will be destroyed.

It will be a shame for any to lose out on the beauties Jehovah puts in front of us, but we know that the vast majority will do just that.

In a short while?

Boy, it's been imminent for the past two millennia. And it's been just around the corner for almost two centuries now for Witnesses. They haven't learned a thing.

Today is Tuesday, October 6, 2015. You're now on record as having said that in a "short while" Armageddon will happen. On record.

As each new year dawns from here onward, I'll be sure to remind you of your words and as each new year goes by the lunacy of your words will become clearer and clearer.
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10/6/2015 7:08:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/6/2015 6:26:36 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/6/2015 5:57:04 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/5/2015 8:52:10 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/5/2015 6:38:29 PM, truth_is_was_will_be wrote:


I hope that in a few decades the Witnesses merit no more than a terse footnote in a contemporary religion Encyclopaedia.

In a short while there will be no other religion, and no need for religious encyclopaedias.

That's what Armageddon is all about, removing all who oppose God from this planet.

And since the only ones who don't oppose him are the JWs......................

As Christ said.

"He who is not with me is against me.

He who does not gather with me, scatters".

There are no neutrals in this "war".

Those who wish to be a part of Jehovah's plans for the earth will live eternally on a paradise earth.

Those who do not wish to be a part of it will be destroyed.

It will be a shame for any to lose out on the beauties Jehovah puts in front of us, but we know that the vast majority will do just that.

In a short while?

Boy, it's been imminent for the past two millennia. And it's been just around the corner for almost two centuries now for Witnesses. They haven't learned a thing.

Ah, but since a day to Jehovah is a thousand years and a thousand years but a day, that means it has only been imminent for two days.


Today is Tuesday, October 6, 2015. You're now on record as having said that in a "short while" Armageddon will happen. On record.

Yup, see above.


As each new year dawns from here onward, I'll be sure to remind you of your words and as each new year goes by the lunacy of your words will become clearer and clearer.

No lunacy, it will happen when Jehovah wants it to - Revelation 7:1-3.

Please do keep your eyes on it.

But also keep your eyes open as the sing that Jesus gave us in Matthew 24 get's ever clearer in the development of the "tribulation such as has never been seen before, no, nor will ever be seen again.

So far:

The majority of Governments are verging on, or well past bankrupt.
We are destroying habitat, and therefore the creatures that live ether daily.
We are having our effect on the weather because of the way we live.
We are slowly destroying the habitat of the vegetation that creates 50% of our oxygen.

In other words, from those few things alone the tribulation is growing and will eventually reach the state where, as Jesus said, it will have to be cut short (by Armageddon) so that any flesh can be saved.

That is the same point at which Jehovah has to "bring to ruin those ruining the earth (Revelation 11:18).

The problem is that whilst there are still only a few boulders rolling down the mountain, at what point will they trigger the avalanche that sweeps all who oppose Jehovah away with it?

It is going to happen. The signs are all there. But as Jesus said, it is going to creep up on us like a thief in the night. Quietly, without warning.
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10/6/2015 7:57:14 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/6/2015 7:08:50 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/6/2015 6:26:36 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/6/2015 5:57:04 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/5/2015 8:52:10 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/5/2015 6:38:29 PM, truth_is_was_will_be wrote:


I hope that in a few decades the Witnesses merit no more than a terse footnote in a contemporary religion Encyclopaedia.

In a short while there will be no other religion, and no need for religious encyclopaedias.

That's what Armageddon is all about, removing all who oppose God from this planet.

And since the only ones who don't oppose him are the JWs......................

As Christ said.

"He who is not with me is against me.

He who does not gather with me, scatters".

There are no neutrals in this "war".

Those who wish to be a part of Jehovah's plans for the earth will live eternally on a paradise earth.

Those who do not wish to be a part of it will be destroyed.

It will be a shame for any to lose out on the beauties Jehovah puts in front of us, but we know that the vast majority will do just that.

In a short while?

Boy, it's been imminent for the past two millennia. And it's been just around the corner for almost two centuries now for Witnesses. They haven't learned a thing.

Ah, but since a day to Jehovah is a thousand years and a thousand years but a day, that means it has only been imminent for two days.


Today is Tuesday, October 6, 2015. You're now on record as having said that in a "short while" Armageddon will happen. On record.

Yup, see above.


As each new year dawns from here onward, I'll be sure to remind you of your words and as each new year goes by the lunacy of your words will become clearer and clearer.

No lunacy, it will happen when Jehovah wants it to - Revelation 7:1-3.

Please do keep your eyes on it.

But also keep your eyes open as the sing that Jesus gave us in Matthew 24 get's ever clearer in the development of the "tribulation such as has never been seen before, no, nor will ever be seen again.

So far:

The majority of Governments are verging on, or well past bankrupt.
We are destroying habitat, and therefore the creatures that live ether daily.
We are having our effect on the weather because of the way we live.
We are slowly destroying the habitat of the vegetation that creates 50% of our oxygen.

In other words, from those few things alone the tribulation is growing and will eventually reach the state where, as Jesus said, it will have to be cut short (by Armageddon) so that any flesh can be saved.

That is the same point at which Jehovah has to "bring to ruin those ruining the earth (Revelation 11:18).

The problem is that whilst there are still only a few boulders rolling down the mountain, at what point will they trigger the avalanche that sweeps all who oppose Jehovah away with it?

It is going to happen. The signs are all there. But as Jesus said, it is going to creep up on us like a thief in the night. Quietly, without warning.

This is how intellectually dishonest The Governing Body is.
The verse says:

2 Peter 3:8

But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

It's "like" , a simile, not it is.
Learn the difference.

Besides the spirit of the verse is an attempt to convey God's conception of time is not human. That's it. No so-called biblical rule whatsoever.
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10/6/2015 8:35:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/6/2015 7:57:14 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/6/2015 7:08:50 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:

This is how intellectually dishonest The Governing Body is.
The verse says:

2 Peter 3:8

But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

It's "like" , a simile, not it is.
Learn the difference.

Besides the spirit of the verse is an attempt to convey God's conception of time is not human. That's it. No so-called biblical rule whatsoever.

Which translation?

One of the ones not honest enough to include Jehovah's name where it belongs?

2 Peter 3:8
Rotherham(i) 8 But, this one thing, forget not, beloved,"that, one day, with the Lord, is as a thousand years, and, a thousand years, as one day.

2 Peter 3:8
NWT 8 However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.

Apart from the fact that the NWT is the only one honest enough to put Jehovah where it belongs, they are identical.

OK

2 Peter 3:8
ASV(i) 8 But forget not this one thing, beloved, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Another one basically the same as the NWT.

2 Peter 3:8
KJV(i) 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

And another.

So who is being dishonest?

Not the Governing Body, and that is a fact.

Think about this.

John 8:44
ASV(i) 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.

Satan is the father of the lie, right?

So if the Governing Body were to be deliberately dishonest they would gain nothing, and lose everything.

Therefore, like me they tell the truth.

Don't forget, not one JW is anything other than a lowly recompensed volunteer, not one. The only thing they get out of others becoming JWs is the satisfaction that there is one more to join them after Armageddon.

They have absolutely nothing to gain from lying. Nothing whatever.

If they were prepared to lie, and make it easier for others to accept what scripture teaches, there would be a lot more than 8,000,000 JWs.

It isn't down to "bums on seats" it is down to finding those who truly want a bit of what Jehovah offers, whatever the cost.
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10/6/2015 8:44:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/6/2015 8:35:06 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/6/2015 7:57:14 PM, Hitchian wrote:
At 10/6/2015 7:08:50 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:

This is how intellectually dishonest The Governing Body is.
The verse says:

2 Peter 3:8

But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

It's "like" , a simile, not it is.
Learn the difference.

Besides the spirit of the verse is an attempt to convey God's conception of time is not human. That's it. No so-called biblical rule whatsoever.

Which translation?

One of the ones not honest enough to include Jehovah's name where it belongs?

2 Peter 3:8
Rotherham(i) 8 But, this one thing, forget not, beloved,"that, one day, with the Lord, is as a thousand years, and, a thousand years, as one day.

2 Peter 3:8
NWT 8 However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.

Apart from the fact that the NWT is the only one honest enough to put Jehovah where it belongs, they are identical.

OK

2 Peter 3:8
ASV(i) 8 But forget not this one thing, beloved, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Another one basically the same as the NWT.

2 Peter 3:8
KJV(i) 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

And another.

So who is being dishonest?

Not the Governing Body, and that is a fact.

Think about this.

John 8:44
ASV(i) 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.

Satan is the father of the lie, right?

So if the Governing Body were to be deliberately dishonest they would gain nothing, and lose everything.

Therefore, like me they tell the truth.

Don't forget, not one JW is anything other than a lowly recompensed volunteer, not one. The only thing they get out of others becoming JWs is the satisfaction that there is one more to join them after Armageddon.

They have absolutely nothing to gain from lying. Nothing whatever.

If they were prepared to lie, and make it easier for others to accept what scripture teaches, there would be a lot more than 8,000,000 JWs.

It isn't down to "bums on seats" it is down to finding those who truly want a bit of what Jehovah offers, whatever the cost. : :

Our Creator is the teacher but only if you listen to His voice. The Bible can't teach anything because it cannot speak or know if you're a liar or not.

Not one inhabitant of the earth will escape God's destruction with His fire. That comes directly from the voice of our Creator.
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10/6/2015 8:56:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Dear MCB,

For the second time in two days you've answered a question you posed to yourself, which nobody else asked, rather than doing as more respectful members do, and asking questions of other members, while making yourself available to answer questions other members may have of you.

Giving rein to conceited and self-indulgent proselytising, you've created your own little airless MCB echo-chamber, and in doing this, your disrespect of the forum and its discourse is palpable.

Here's a novel idea: rather than fabricating curiosity to excuse preaching to disinterested members, why not exhibit some genuine curiosity of your own?

Best,

Ruv.