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10/7/2015 4:12:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall? : :

All the nations of this world will fall according to God's will.

Zephaniah 3:
8: "Therefore wait for me," says the LORD, "for the day when I arise as a witness. For my decision is to gather nations, to assemble kingdoms, to pour out upon them my indignation, all the heat of my anger; for in the fire of my jealous wrath all the earth shall be consumed.
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10/8/2015 5:41:09 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

It will come pretty dang close to falling. Think about what has happened to the U.S. - Evil is everywhere. Geez, where to start...adultery, pornography, lewdness, homosexuality, theft, murder, television which portrays all this as normal and right, corrupt government ran by corporations, everyone out to get the better of everyone else, religion being scorned and banned, and on and on. It's a disgusting nation full of darkness and idle people who want hand outs for everything. Without morality, freedom will not stand. There will soon come a time when the righteous people will have to leave the society, then look out for the fire.
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10/8/2015 7:17:31 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/8/2015 5:41:09 AM, SavvoyBrown wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

It will come pretty dang close to falling. Think about what has happened to the U.S. - Evil is everywhere. Geez, where to start...adultery, pornography, lewdness, homosexuality, theft, murder, television which portrays all this as normal and right, corrupt government ran by corporations, everyone out to get the better of everyone else, religion being scorned and banned, and on and on. It's a disgusting nation full of darkness and idle people who want hand outs for everything. Without morality, freedom will not stand. There will soon come a time when the righteous people will have to leave the society, then look out for the fire.
Well I"m absolutely certain that nobody will notice when that happens.
But you have fun with your predictions, BTW did you get a good look at the end of the world today? Pretty spectacular wasn't it? LMFAO.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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10/11/2015 6:43:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/8/2015 7:17:31 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/8/2015 5:41:09 AM, SavvoyBrown wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

It will come pretty dang close to falling. Think about what has happened to the U.S. - Evil is everywhere. Geez, where to start...adultery, pornography, lewdness, homosexuality, theft, murder, television which portrays all this as normal and right, corrupt government ran by corporations, everyone out to get the better of everyone else, religion being scorned and banned, and on and on. It's a disgusting nation full of darkness and idle people who want hand outs for everything. Without morality, freedom will not stand. There will soon come a time when the righteous people will have to leave the society, then look out for the fire.
Well I"m absolutely certain that nobody will notice when that happens.
But you have fun with your predictions, BTW did you get a good look at the end of the world today? Pretty spectacular wasn't it? LMFAO.

Are you someone who thinks our country can go in how it is? As for the rest of your comment, I think you must be replying to someone else because it makes no sense to what I posted. I don't know what LMFAO is? Some texting language the kids use?
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10/11/2015 10:25:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/8/2015 5:41:09 AM, SavvoyBrown wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

It will come pretty dang close to falling. Think about what has happened to the U.S. - Evil is everywhere. Geez, where to start...adultery, pornography, lewdness, homosexuality, theft, murder, television which portrays all this as normal and right, corrupt government ran by corporations, everyone out to get the better of everyone else, religion being scorned and banned, and on and on. It's a disgusting nation full of darkness and idle people who want hand outs for everything. Without morality, freedom will not stand. There will soon come a time when the righteous people will have to leave the society, then look out for the fire.

Where religion encroaches in government and/or education, where it is used as justification for discrimination, or where it is pushed as an alternative to scientific knowledge - it should be resisted. Such opposition is not the same thing as being "banned", and any scorn involved is deserved, imo.
This thread is like eavesdropping on a conversation in a mental asylum. - Bulproof

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What the hell kind of coked up sideshow has this thread turned into. - Casten
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10/12/2015 2:36:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/11/2015 6:43:25 AM, SavvoyBrown wrote:
At 10/8/2015 7:17:31 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/8/2015 5:41:09 AM, SavvoyBrown wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

It will come pretty dang close to falling. Think about what has happened to the U.S. - Evil is everywhere. Geez, where to start...adultery, pornography, lewdness, homosexuality, theft, murder, television which portrays all this as normal and right, corrupt government ran by corporations, everyone out to get the better of everyone else, religion being scorned and banned, and on and on. It's a disgusting nation full of darkness and idle people who want hand outs for everything. Without morality, freedom will not stand. There will soon come a time when the righteous people will have to leave the society, then look out for the fire.
Well I"m absolutely certain that nobody will notice when that happens.
But you have fun with your predictions, BTW did you get a good look at the end of the world today? Pretty spectacular wasn't it? LMFAO.

Are you someone who thinks our country can go in how it is? As for the rest of your comment, I think you must be replying to someone else because it makes no sense to what I posted. I don't know what LMFAO is? Some texting language the kids use?

Actually I'm someone who said that nobody will notice "when the righteous people will have to leave the society".
The rest is merely an aside about the end of the world predicted by another crackpot chistian organisation.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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10/12/2015 3:45:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

Unfortunately, all great powers implode. The U.S. is being undermined by the elite who actually control it. The world needs to be aware of the U.N.'s Agenda 21.. This is where it ends for all nations.
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10/13/2015 6:29:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

All human nations will fall soon.
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10/13/2015 6:35:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/13/2015 6:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

All human nations will fall soon.
Just like they did in 1914 etc.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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10/13/2015 6:44:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/13/2015 6:35:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

All human nations will fall soon.
Just like they did in 1914 etc.

That was when they should have surrendered their sovereignty to Christ.

Armageddon is when he takes away any other option.
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10/13/2015 7:16:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/13/2015 6:44:05 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:35:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

All human nations will fall soon.
Just like they did in 1914 etc.

That was when they should have surrendered their sovereignty to Christ.

Armageddon is when he takes away any other option.

According to the BotchTower such an option was removed in 1914. No, 1915. No, 1925. You see, they possessed some "chronologies" which were "not of human origin", i. e. not according to man's devices and reasoning. That's why they were "of God" - not "of man." When asked why in the world they made such claims as to the origin, you assured us that it was just an honest mistake. In other words, people like you can claim they are influenced directly by God when in fact they never were.
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10/13/2015 7:58:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

Mark 3:24-26-- a house divided will not stand. We all see it at work in mortal govt.
Instead of working together for the people, they do their works for the rich. They have lost already.
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10/13/2015 8:27:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/13/2015 7:16:48 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:44:05 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:35:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

All human nations will fall soon.
Just like they did in 1914 etc.

That was when they should have surrendered their sovereignty to Christ.

Armageddon is when he takes away any other option.

According to the BotchTower such an option was removed in 1914. No, 1915. No, 1925. You see, they possessed some "chronologies" which were "not of human origin", i. e. not according to man's devices and reasoning. That's why they were "of God" - not "of man." When asked why in the world they made such claims as to the origin, you assured us that it was just an honest mistake. In other words, people like you can claim they are influenced directly by God when in fact they never were.

No, that was merely when their licence ran out. Their time had come.

As Revelation tells us, Armageddon will be when it is enforced (Daniel 2:44) when they will be crushed and brought to an end.

That date has never changed, 1914 has always been the end of the Gentile Times, the Times of the Nations.

It is only the Tribulation "such as has never been seen before, no, nor will ever be seen again", and Armageddon they got wrong.

Mind you, lol, they got the "never been seen before" bit right, just not the "nor will ever be seen again". Worse has happened since, and will happen again.
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10/13/2015 9:28:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/13/2015 8:27:23 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 7:16:48 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:44:05 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:35:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

All human nations will fall soon.
Just like they did in 1914 etc.

That was when they should have surrendered their sovereignty to Christ.

Armageddon is when he takes away any other option.

According to the BotchTower such an option was removed in 1914. No, 1915. No, 1925. You see, they possessed some "chronologies" which were "not of human origin", i. e. not according to man's devices and reasoning. That's why they were "of God" - not "of man." When asked why in the world they made such claims as to the origin, you assured us that it was just an honest mistake. In other words, people like you can claim they are influenced directly by God when in fact they never were.

No, that was merely when their licence ran out. Their time had come.

As Revelation tells us, Armageddon will be when it is enforced (Daniel 2:44) when they will be crushed and brought to an end.

That date has never changed, 1914 has always been the end of the Gentile Times, the Times of the Nations.

It is only the Tribulation "such as has never been seen before, no, nor will ever be seen again", and Armageddon they got wrong.

Mind you, lol, they got the "never been seen before" bit right, just not the "nor will ever be seen again". Worse has happened since, and will happen again.

Tap dance a little harder, people can still see the lies beneath your feet.
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10/14/2015 2:52:20 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/8/2015 7:17:31 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/8/2015 5:41:09 AM, SavvoyBrown wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

It will come pretty dang close to falling. Think about what has happened to the U.S. - Evil is everywhere. Geez, where to start...adultery, pornography, lewdness, homosexuality, theft, murder, television which portrays all this as normal and right, corrupt government ran by corporations, everyone out to get the better of everyone else, religion being scorned and banned, and on and on. It's a disgusting nation full of darkness and idle people who want hand outs for everything. Without morality, freedom will not stand. There will soon come a time when the righteous people will have to leave the society, then look out for the fire.
Well I"m absolutely certain that nobody will notice when that happens.
But you have fun with your predictions, BTW did you get a good look at the end of the world today? Pretty spectacular wasn't it? LMFAO.

Bullmunch has too much time on his hands.
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10/14/2015 2:52:52 AM
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At 10/13/2015 8:27:23 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 7:16:48 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:44:05 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:35:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

All human nations will fall soon.
Just like they did in 1914 etc.

That was when they should have surrendered their sovereignty to Christ.

Armageddon is when he takes away any other option.

According to the BotchTower such an option was removed in 1914. No, 1915. No, 1925. You see, they possessed some "chronologies" which were "not of human origin", i. e. not according to man's devices and reasoning. That's why they were "of God" - not "of man." When asked why in the world they made such claims as to the origin, you assured us that it was just an honest mistake. In other words, people like you can claim they are influenced directly by God when in fact they never were.

No, that was merely when their licence ran out. Their time had come.

As Revelation tells us, Armageddon will be when it is enforced (Daniel 2:44) when they will be crushed and brought to an end.

That date has never changed, 1914 has always been the end of the Gentile Times, the Times of the Nations.

Yeah, the time when "all human governments" would topple. One hundred years later, they're all still here.

If ANYTHING tangible that the BotchTower predicted would happen in 1914 actually came to pass, would you mind providing the pre-1914 citation from their writings? I'm not talking about an esoteric "Times of the Gentiles" in which nothing happened. The BotchTower predicted numerous occurrences in and around 1914. Verifiable occurrences. Nobody could mistake them. Can you point out ONE that actually came to pass as predicted?

Here is a form for you to fill out and educate us:

"The WatchTower correctly predicted that _________________________________ would happen in and around 1914, and this came to pass just as they predicted as proven by _______________________________________________________ (cite magazine or newspaper article)."

LMAO @ those blanks will never be filled in.
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10/14/2015 5:26:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/13/2015 6:44:05 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:35:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

All human nations will fall soon.
Just like they did in 1914 etc.

That was when they should have surrendered their sovereignty to Christ.

Armageddon is when he takes away any other option.
Har har magedon happened in 1914, why do you call god a liar?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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10/14/2015 2:21:05 PM
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At 10/14/2015 5:26:40 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:44:05 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:35:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

All human nations will fall soon.
Just like they did in 1914 etc.

That was when they should have surrendered their sovereignty to Christ.

Armageddon is when he takes away any other option.
Har har magedon happened in 1914, why do you call god a liar?

He never said it would, it is you who calls him a liar.

The brothers simply misread the signs that Christ gave us, and expected Armageddon either in 1914 or immediately after, since that was the end of the Times of the Nations.

I have explained it at to you many times, but you seem utterly incapable of leanring.
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10/14/2015 2:33:37 PM
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At 10/14/2015 2:52:52 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/13/2015 8:27:23 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 7:16:48 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:44:05 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:35:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

All human nations will fall soon.
Just like they did in 1914 etc.

That was when they should have surrendered their sovereignty to Christ.

Armageddon is when he takes away any other option.

According to the BotchTower such an option was removed in 1914. No, 1915. No, 1925. You see, they possessed some "chronologies" which were "not of human origin", i. e. not according to man's devices and reasoning. That's why they were "of God" - not "of man." When asked why in the world they made such claims as to the origin, you assured us that it was just an honest mistake. In other words, people like you can claim they are influenced directly by God when in fact they never were.

No, that was merely when their licence ran out. Their time had come.

As Revelation tells us, Armageddon will be when it is enforced (Daniel 2:44) when they will be crushed and brought to an end.

That date has never changed, 1914 has always been the end of the Gentile Times, the Times of the Nations.

Yeah, the time when "all human governments" would topple. One hundred years later, they're all still here.

It still was the end of the times of the Nations, Christ just hasn't been allowed to enforce it yet, partly because he still has some of his co-rulers to gather so that his Kingdom is complete.

Yes, still here, but look how much trouble they are in already. They are sewing the seeds of their own destruction, when the time comes all Christ will have to do is give them a gentle push.


If ANYTHING tangible that the BotchTower predicted would happen in 1914 actually came to pass, would you mind providing the pre-1914 citation from their writings? I'm not talking about an esoteric "Times of the Gentiles" in which nothing happened. The BotchTower predicted numerous occurrences in and around 1914. Verifiable occurrences. Nobody could mistake them. Can you point out ONE that actually came to pass as predicted?

Have I ever claimed that they were right in tier predictions?

No I have not.

1914 was exactly what scripture said it would be, the end of the Gentile Tes, and the start of Christ preparing his Kingdom to take action.

The fact that the brothers expected more to happen, more quickly, is not really surprising, after all, you think it has already happened, so you are way further out than they were, lol.

They simply hadn't realise what a great work was in front of them.

But they learned, slowly but surely, they learned, and by the time they were needed, they were ready.


Here is a form for you to fill out and educate us:

"The WatchTower correctly predicted that _________________________________ would happen in and around 1914, and this came to pass just as they predicted as proven by _______________________________________________________ (cite magazine or newspaper article)."

LMAO @ those blanks will never be filled in.

I could cite every Newspaper in the world if I wished.

The tribulation started building up in earnest around 1914, and can still been seen now for those with the eyes to see it.

However, since when did a "thief in the night" announce himself plainly?

Jesus himself said it would not be easy to see, unless you had your eyes wide open.

Yours are closed tight so it is no wonder you cannot see them Matthew 13:15. The scripture may not fit, but the principle behind it sure does.

Amongst the many unfaithful characters in scripture that you remind me of, are included those whom Peter speaks of at 2 Peter 3:4
ASV(i) 4 and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

That's you to a T that is, lol.

The "thief in the night" will catch you asleep right enough. Wake up before it is too late.
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10/14/2015 2:34:34 PM
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At 10/14/2015 2:52:20 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 10/8/2015 7:17:31 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/8/2015 5:41:09 AM, SavvoyBrown wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

It will come pretty dang close to falling. Think about what has happened to the U.S. - Evil is everywhere. Geez, where to start...adultery, pornography, lewdness, homosexuality, theft, murder, television which portrays all this as normal and right, corrupt government ran by corporations, everyone out to get the better of everyone else, religion being scorned and banned, and on and on. It's a disgusting nation full of darkness and idle people who want hand outs for everything. Without morality, freedom will not stand. There will soon come a time when the righteous people will have to leave the society, then look out for the fire.
Well I"m absolutely certain that nobody will notice when that happens.
But you have fun with your predictions, BTW did you get a good look at the end of the world today? Pretty spectacular wasn't it? LMFAO.

Bullmunch has too much time on his hands.

Yes, and him married with kids too, lol. I wonder where they are?
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10/14/2015 2:35:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/13/2015 9:28:56 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 10/13/2015 8:27:23 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 7:16:48 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:44:05 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:35:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

All human nations will fall soon.
Just like they did in 1914 etc.

That was when they should have surrendered their sovereignty to Christ.

Armageddon is when he takes away any other option.

According to the BotchTower such an option was removed in 1914. No, 1915. No, 1925. You see, they possessed some "chronologies" which were "not of human origin", i. e. not according to man's devices and reasoning. That's why they were "of God" - not "of man." When asked why in the world they made such claims as to the origin, you assured us that it was just an honest mistake. In other words, people like you can claim they are influenced directly by God when in fact they never were.

No, that was merely when their licence ran out. Their time had come.

As Revelation tells us, Armageddon will be when it is enforced (Daniel 2:44) when they will be crushed and brought to an end.

That date has never changed, 1914 has always been the end of the Gentile Times, the Times of the Nations.

It is only the Tribulation "such as has never been seen before, no, nor will ever be seen again", and Armageddon they got wrong.

Mind you, lol, they got the "never been seen before" bit right, just not the "nor will ever be seen again". Worse has happened since, and will happen again.

Tap dance a little harder, people can still see the lies beneath your feet.

Then they are hallucinating.
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10/14/2015 2:52:06 PM
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At 10/14/2015 2:33:37 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/14/2015 2:52:52 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/13/2015 8:27:23 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 7:16:48 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:44:05 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:35:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/13/2015 6:29:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/7/2015 3:15:30 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
Can the U.S., a "free society" maintain, or will it fall?

All human nations will fall soon.
Just like they did in 1914 etc.

That was when they should have surrendered their sovereignty to Christ.

Armageddon is when he takes away any other option.

According to the BotchTower such an option was removed in 1914. No, 1915. No, 1925. You see, they possessed some "chronologies" which were "not of human origin", i. e. not according to man's devices and reasoning. That's why they were "of God" - not "of man." When asked why in the world they made such claims as to the origin, you assured us that it was just an honest mistake. In other words, people like you can claim they are influenced directly by God when in fact they never were.

No, that was merely when their licence ran out. Their time had come.

As Revelation tells us, Armageddon will be when it is enforced (Daniel 2:44) when they will be crushed and brought to an end.

That date has never changed, 1914 has always been the end of the Gentile Times, the Times of the Nations.

Yeah, the time when "all human governments" would topple. One hundred years later, they're all still here.

It still was the end of the times of the Nations, Christ just hasn't been allowed to enforce it yet, partly because he still has some of his co-rulers to gather so that his Kingdom is complete.

Yes, still here, but look how much trouble they are in already. They are sewing the seeds of their own destruction, when the time comes all Christ will have to do is give them a gentle push.


If ANYTHING tangible that the BotchTower predicted would happen in 1914 actually came to pass, would you mind providing the pre-1914 citation from their writings? I'm not talking about an esoteric "Times of the Gentiles" in which nothing happened. The BotchTower predicted numerous occurrences in and around 1914. Verifiable occurrences. Nobody could mistake them. Can you point out ONE that actually came to pass as predicted?

Have I ever claimed that they were right in tier predictions?

No I have not.

1914 was exactly what scripture said it would be, the end of the Gentile Tes, and the start of Christ preparing his Kingdom to take action.

The fact that the brothers expected more to happen, more quickly, is not really surprising, after all, you think it has already happened, so you are way further out than they were, lol.

They simply hadn't realise what a great work was in front of them.

But they learned, slowly but surely, they learned, and by the time they were needed, they were ready.


Here is a form for you to fill out and educate us:

"The WatchTower correctly predicted that _________________________________ would happen in and around 1914, and this came to pass just as they predicted as proven by _______________________________________________________ (cite magazine or newspaper article)."

LMAO @ those blanks will never be filled in.

I could cite every Newspaper in the world if I wished.

Well, why don't you try citing ONE?

The tribulation started building up in earnest around 1914, and can still been seen now for those with the eyes to see it.

"Those with they eyes to see it" = doomsday lunatics who smell a fart and think it's a "sign". People have been imagining those "signs" for the last 500 years.

However, since when did a "thief in the night" announce himself plainly?

Why, according to you (and the BotchTower), it should all be very apparent.

Jesus himself said it would not be easy to see, unless you had your eyes wide open.

Yours are closed tight so it is no wonder you cannot see them Matthew 13:15. The scripture may not fit, but the principle behind it sure does.

The principle describes the BotchTower powers-that-be. The ones running the show are court jesters, clowns, who are constantly forced to explain and re-explain their own screw-ups. They received their self-inflicted coup-de-grace when they invented out of thin air an imaginary "over-lapping generations" theory to explain one failure after another concerning "this generation." Thus, by their wild imagination, YOU and I could conceivably be a part of "this generation" who saw 1914. Can you imagine anything so stupid?
Madcornishbiker: "No, I don't need a dictionary, I know how scripture uses words and that is all I need to now."