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Al-Kitab
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10/12/2015 5:54:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12....

Our numerical system has potentially a never ending amount of numbers. The more you count, the more we can plus another one.
Potentially an infinite amount...

But in truth....
Only one number does exist

The number "1"

E.g 1 + 1 + 1 = 3

That is because "1" explains itself and every other number.
In fact, every number is a repetition (more precisely a reproduction) of the number "1".

Not only does it explain every whole number but it also explains every type of number.
For example a fraction or a decimal point is a "part of "1"".

50% =
1/2 =
0.5 OF 1

What's so special about "1" is it is also complete

1 = 100%

In maths, when something is complete It MUST have a bound and an end.

In maths this is signified with brackets ( )

( <------bound, beginning
) <------end, finish

*****(We do not use the brackets because we consider it common knowledge.)

In maths we rarely use it but Brackets explain grouping pairs or completion in maths. That is why brackets are done first in arithmetical equation

e.g
(3+2) x (3+1) = 20
or
(5) x (4) = (20)
5 x 4 = 20

One is 100% completely bounded and ended to itself.

(1) or (100%)

Hence this instantly means "(1)", the number "1" is the finite because of is finite restriction.

ANYTHING that can be calculated is.

Instantly our universe becomes finite (1) even if it has potentially infinite possibilities (Infinite)

Infinity is a concept not a number meaning boundless/endless
Unrestricted (beyond brackets)

This is what has come to be known as potential infinite, even though it's just studying the infinite possibilities within (1).

If we accept (infinity) as anything more it would be the greatest oxymoron in the history of mankind.

There is also another restriction of the number (1)

That is because by itself can not do much.
It needs a medium or a language to communicate.

multiple, divide, square root Etc are all fancy and group methods of doing the core symbols of maths.

Addition and subtraction
+ -

Just like (1),

(+|-) addition and subtraction can explain themselves and every other type of calculations.

Example

(1+1+1) + (1+1+1) = (1+1+1+1+1+1)

So inside every (1) we have (+|-).

E.g

Man = (1)
And he has (+|-) within himself.

Think of anything Positive and negative, Addition subtraction, Time space, Proton electron, Good Bad, Right Wrong, Light Dark
We can even say
Yin Yang for good measure
All we have is equal and opposites and one can not exist without the other. Black exists because of white and vice versa.
Think of anything, chemistry, biology, physics even non scientific subjects like morale; you can even say from a materialistic morale point of view, water is our greatest asset, the reason for life yet, our greatest restriction.

Anything from a positive and a negative within a finite position can be explained quite easily.

(+ -) within (1)

Now to make it interesting..........
Scientifically we know we are living in 1 x (E=mc2), we are restricted.

My question is say we calculated everything that exists in our (1) universe.

Hypothetically lets say

everything = (100)

What would be

1 + (100) = ?

It can not be 101
Reason
Everything has already been calculated and it equalled (100)

Let me rephrase the question
from my brief explanation above what would be

1 + (finite)
1 + (maths)
1 + (1)
1 + (universe)
1 + (everything)
1 + (100%)
1 + (E=mc2)
1 + (+|-)
????

It must be something outside of the bound and end (brackets)
Our concept of this is called

Absolute (meaning 100%)

Infinity
A CONCEPT (NOT A NUMBER) beyond all bounds "(" and ends ")"

So in an equation

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1 + (1) = Absolute Infinity
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Or as explained before the core language of (1) is maths (+|-)

The theory of Absolute Infinity
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1 + (+|-) = Infinity
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Even though I have not surpassed our laws of mathematics, it displays something beyond mathematics.

What so special about this equation?

LETS GET INTO SCIENCE:
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Quote: "If an object tries to travel 186,000 miles per second, its mass becomes infinite, and so does the energy required to move it. For this reason, no normal object can travel as fast or faster than the speed of light."

So if something exceeds this limit (1) its mass becomes infinite.
1 + (1) = Infinity
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Mathematics studies the (+ | - ) laws to understand the (1) value.

Science studies the (1) value to understand the ( + | - ) laws.

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Quantum Mechanics states for nothing to create something, laws must be in place for nothing to produce something.

The equation covers this aspect quite easily.

A law is something that governs its subjects. It is not an actual physical entity and can not be expressed as the value 1.

It is however an addition which must preexist our mathematical restrictions, as quantum mechanics states.

+ ( + | - ) This is the equation of Quantum mechanics,

And this (+|-) is what governing physics studies

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RELIGION

It explain outside of our brackets

God is complete 1
100%
Yet he is incomprehensible
Infinity

It explains that we have the option of either choosing a + path or - negative

If on the day of judgment "=" (The day of TOTALLING/Tallying/equal sign)

our good deeds out way our bad

1 + ( + > - ) = + Infinity

You will end up in eternal positive or heaven

Respectively

1 + ( + < -) = - Infinity
Hell

God 1 = Infinite
Created +
Everything (+ - )
and he only gives + "good" to all creation
and everything (1) was made in pairs (+ - )

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Prisca Theologia

+(+|-) Atheist, understand natural law exist and Quanta

(Infinity)=Infinity Pantheist, the universe is God

(1)=Infinity Buddha said, look within yourself (1) and find your personal (Infinite) nirvana.

( 1 + (+|-) = Infinity) Christianity,

father 1=Infinite
holy spirit +
son (+|-)

Exterior brackets trinity
(holy spirit is the deliverer of the law, the son is earthly bound (+-) son)
Even though Jesus can have potentially have an (Infinity) possibilities within him, he can never be God. That is why he always said the father "Infinity" is greater than I (1)

Islam
Surah 112

Say he is one
1
on all whom depend +
he begets not, (+)
nor is begotten (-)
(+|-)
and none is like him Infinity

---->It is everywhere (on every page in every Surah) in the Quran .<--------

Cantor actually coined the word "transfinite" in an attempt to distinguish the various levels of infinite numbers from an Absolute Infinity 100% Infinite , an incomprehensible concept beyond mathematics itself, which then Cantor effectively equated with God (he saw no contradiction between his mathematics and the traditional concept of God)

I'm merely saying the same thing. It doesn't matter if you call this concept Allah, God, Absolute Infinite. Whats important to understand is that a concept beyond anything calculable (including all the potential infinities) does exist, as Cantor proclaimed.

For those who will argue for the sake of "0" Zero/Nothing.

Nothing still needs laws in place for it to produce something

0 + 1

The plus sign must coexist/preexist with 0 for it to eventually become 1. That inadvertently means it was never 0 to begin with but something (governing laws is something not nothing).

Without the "+" the "0" can never become "1" hence, Absolute Zero can not exist.

The other type of zero or nothingness is it once existed and then didn't.
In a certain time period that 0 was 1 but ceased so again this nothing can not be considered a complete nothing, but merely it is the absence of 1.

As soon as we label it nothing, it becomes something even if there is nothing there. The reason is when we identify its nothin
desmac
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10/12/2015 6:07:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/12/2015 6:00:29 PM, dhardage wrote:
I don't know what you're smoking but you should really consider stopping.

Or sharing.
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10/12/2015 6:17:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/12/2015 6:07:07 PM, desmac wrote:
At 10/12/2015 6:00:29 PM, dhardage wrote:
I don't know what you're smoking but you should really consider stopping.

Or sharing.

My grasp on reality is fine. I don't need to alter it.
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10/12/2015 6:32:08 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/12/2015 6:17:38 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 10/12/2015 6:07:07 PM, desmac wrote:
At 10/12/2015 6:00:29 PM, dhardage wrote:
I don't know what you're smoking but you should really consider stopping.

Or sharing.

My grasp on reality is fine. I don't need to alter it.

But is your reality the same as everyone else's?
What if Al-kitab's reality is realer than yours?
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10/12/2015 7:08:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/12/2015 6:32:08 PM, desmac wrote:
At 10/12/2015 6:17:38 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 10/12/2015 6:07:07 PM, desmac wrote:
At 10/12/2015 6:00:29 PM, dhardage wrote:
I don't know what you're smoking but you should really consider stopping.

Or sharing.

My grasp on reality is fine. I don't need to alter it.

But is your reality the same as everyone else's?
What if Al-kitab's reality is realer than yours?

We all share one reality. Our ways of explaining and expressing it are different, but it's all the same world. When 'different' goes into 'goofy' I can no longer accept that view as even close.
Leugen9001
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10/12/2015 10:59:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
P1. All number is either a multiple of 1 or a part of 1.
P2. ???
C. G-d exists.

Somehow this argument doesn't sound legit to me,
:) nac
Yassine
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10/12/2015 10:59:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/12/2015 5:54:16 PM, Al-Kitab wrote:

Salamo'alaykom,

- I admire the effort, but what you're doing is called "Takharruss", I suggest you avoid it. It's prohibited. Also, the scholarly value of such approaches are virtually null, so...
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10/13/2015 1:12:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/12/2015 5:54:16 PM, Al-Kitab wrote:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12....

Our numerical system has potentially a never ending amount of numbers. The more you count, the more we can plus another one.
Potentially an infinite amount...

But in truth....
Only one number does exist

The number "1"

Unfortunately '+' cannot be defined in terms of the number '1' alone. A convenient way to define '+' is in terms of the successor function s(), to create a number-line. Using 's', you can have s(1) = 2, s(s(1)) = 3, and so on.

So we can define addition as:
1 + 1 = s(1), and in general
x + 1 = s(x), while
x + s(y) = s(x + y), for all numbers x, y.

With the successor function s() you can also define a zero '0' such that s(0) = 1. For any number x, you can also define x - 1 as some y, such that s(y) = x, and thus you can define subtraction too.

With a bit of effort, you can define multiplication and division in this way also, but it gets tricky when you try to take square roots, or define pi -- the arithmetic may no longer be finite.

Anyway, '1' is not God. With the successor function, you can define the number line from anywhere. E.g. start at '0', so 1 = s(0), and it still works.

Secondly, if you define numbers in this way, you don't actually get one number line -- you get infinitely many (for complex reasons I can explain if you want.) So even if '1' were God, you couldn't be sure it was unique, or know anything about it. :D
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10/14/2015 4:55:57 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/12/2015 11:29:50 PM, dee-em wrote:
What about pi?

Pi and other infinity paradoxes are always given as examples in response to this equation. This equation is explaining the Absolute Infinite beyond any restricting and governing laws.

Pi is restricted to and only potentially infinite.

To explain, Pi is the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter and is restricted to the circle's circumference. It is within a 100% complete and enclosing "circle".
Same goes for every type and size of infinite we know.
For example take the hilbert hotel paradox, It is still within a hotel.

This infinite is bounded and ended by the governing laws of its confinements. When Time/Space ends, the numbers within it must end with it.
Absolute Infinity can not be governed or restricted by numerical properties

Also 3.1415926535... is basically (1)+(1)+(1)
We have "3" individual 100% complete (1)s and we are 0.85840734641021...
away from the next complete (1), or the 4th (1)
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10/14/2015 6:03:14 AM
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Learn to spell if you if you seek credibility.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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10/14/2015 9:37:19 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/14/2015 4:55:57 AM, Al-Kitab wrote:
At 10/12/2015 11:29:50 PM, dee-em wrote:
What about pi?

Pi and other infinity paradoxes are always given as examples in response to this equation. This equation is explaining the Absolute Infinite beyond any restricting and governing laws.

Pi is restricted to and only potentially infinite.

To explain, Pi is the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter and is restricted to the circle's circumference. It is within a 100% complete and enclosing "circle".
Same goes for every type and size of infinite we know.
For example take the hilbert hotel paradox, It is still within a hotel.

This infinite is bounded and ended by the governing laws of its confinements. When Time/Space ends, the numbers within it must end with it.
Absolute Infinity can not be governed or restricted by numerical properties

Also 3.1415926535... is basically (1)+(1)+(1)
We have "3" individual 100% complete (1)s and we are 0.85840734641021...
away from the next complete (1), or the 4th (1)

Whatever you say ...
Carry on with the nonsense.
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10/14/2015 10:11:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/14/2015 4:55:57 AM, Al-Kitab wrote:
At 10/12/2015 11:29:50 PM, dee-em wrote:
What about pi?

Pi and other infinity paradoxes are always given as examples in response to this equation. This equation is explaining the Absolute Infinite beyond any restricting and governing laws.

Pi is restricted to and only potentially infinite.

To explain, Pi is the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter and is restricted to the circle's circumference. It is within a 100% complete and enclosing "circle".
Same goes for every type and size of infinite we know.
For example take the hilbert hotel paradox, It is still within a hotel.

This infinite is bounded and ended by the governing laws of its confinements. When Time/Space ends, the numbers within it must end with it.
Absolute Infinity can not be governed or restricted by numerical properties

Also 3.1415926535... is basically (1)+(1)+(1)
We have "3" individual 100% complete (1)s and we are 0.85840734641021...
away from the next complete (1), or the 4th (1)

- Honestly, did you drop out of school or something?
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