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RuvDraba
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10/13/2015 2:50:56 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/13/2015 2:21:14 AM, Accipiter wrote:
...or science?

If you mean wealth creation: science.

If you mean siphoning wealth while producing nothing of value that you couldn't produce by other means, religion.
Accipiter
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10/13/2015 3:09:52 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/13/2015 2:50:56 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 10/13/2015 2:21:14 AM, Accipiter wrote:
...or science?

If you mean wealth creation: science.

If you mean siphoning wealth while producing nothing of value that you couldn't produce by other means, religion.

Wow, if that were true it would be immemorial wouldn't it?
RuvDraba
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10/13/2015 7:53:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/13/2015 3:14:33 AM, Accipiter wrote:
Excuse my spelling, immoral would be the word you are already thinking.

It'd mean that in many world faiths, theological elites were running a parallel cultural government, frequently unelected and therefore imposing taxation without representation, ruled by ancient ideologies unaccountable for their dogma, unwilling to admit ignorance and error, to which children are enrolled before the age of consent, which can rule on matters as diverse as employment, sexuality, leisure time, associations, artistic and intellectual expression, marriage, medicine and contraception, and which can coerce and threaten you with impunity if you attempt to leave.

Amoral? I suppose it depends on how the power is used.

Regardless though, it's certainly unethical.
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10/13/2015 9:12:05 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/13/2015 7:53:25 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 10/13/2015 3:14:33 AM, Accipiter wrote:
Excuse my spelling, immoral would be the word you are already thinking.

It'd mean that in many world faiths, theological elites were running a parallel cultural government, frequently unelected and therefore imposing taxation without representation, ruled by ancient ideologies unaccountable for their dogma, unwilling to admit ignorance and error, to which children are enrolled before the age of consent, which can rule on matters as diverse as employment, sexuality, leisure time, associations, artistic and intellectual expression, marriage, medicine and contraception, and which can coerce and threaten you with impunity if you attempt to leave.

Amoral? I suppose it depends on how the power is used.

Regardless though, it's certainly unethical.

Yes unethical at least. I feel sorry for what religious people go through. I grew up in a family that supported academia, learning came first and science was crucial. I don't know if I could have faced what many did and not come out of it messed up. Now I am beginning to feel imposed upon by religious BS that does nothing but impede progress and waste money. It's really beginning to p iss me off.
UniversalTheologian
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10/13/2015 1:40:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
As it is written in Paul's Epistle to Timothy....

Let as many bondservants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and His doctrine may not be blasphemed. And those who have believing masters, let them not despise them because they are brethren, but rather serve them because those who are benefited are believers and beloved. Teach and exhort these things.

If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.

Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and clothing, with these we shall be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

But you, O man of God, flee these things and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, gentleness. Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, to which you were also called and have confessed the good confession in the presence of many witnesses. I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate, that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ"s appearing, which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.
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