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Cerebral_Narcissist
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9/20/2010 2:41:27 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
She may be clever, but her allusions to viruses was so obviously flawed that I dismissed it years ago.
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9/20/2010 2:54:50 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
A big part of the reason I changed to UU. I don't see religion itself as the problem anymore. Religion can lead to good ends or bad ends. I should just be focused on those ends instead of religion.

She points out that religious people tend to be more generous but might I add that non-religious people tend to be more liberal and endorse more social-welfare which is simply an organized version. And other studies suggest that non-religious people are less violent and have more successful marriages.
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9/20/2010 2:58:26 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/20/2010 2:54:50 AM, FREEDO wrote:
A big part of the reason I changed to UU.

I thought that was a joke church.

Naah I didn't... just trolling. I just don't get it.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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9/20/2010 9:41:50 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/20/2010 2:54:50 AM, FREEDO wrote:
A big part of the reason I changed to UU. I don't see religion itself as the problem anymore. Religion can lead to good ends or bad ends. I should just be focused on those ends instead of religion.

She points out that religious people tend to be more generous but might I add that non-religious people tend to be more liberal and endorse more social-welfare which is simply an organized version. And other studies suggest that non-religious people are less violent and have more successful marriages.

Freedo, have you actually been to a UU service? They're the silliest waste of time i have ever spent in a "church". It's also the whitest waspiest bunch of elitists i've ever spent time with. - Don't get me wrong, they're not bad people, but i just don't understand the point.
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9/20/2010 9:56:53 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/20/2010 2:58:26 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 9/20/2010 2:54:50 AM, FREEDO wrote:
A big part of the reason I changed to UU.

I thought that was a joke church.

Naah I didn't... just trolling. I just don't get it.

I lol'd
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Marauder
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9/20/2010 10:09:53 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/20/2010 2:54:50 AM, FREEDO wrote:

She points out that religious people tend to be more generous but might I add that non-religious people tend to be more liberal and endorse more social-welfare which is simply an organized version.

right because we religious people aren't organized at all (said sarcastically before providing link that shows our organized relief efforts.) http://new.gbgm-umc.org...

I know I can speak for my church (UMC) that they are incredibly organized when it comes to charity. not a disaster has gone by that didn't immediately have a special offering for providing relief to just that disaster. even ones that didn't make the news that I knew nothing about until the Sunday morning they took up the offering.

not to mention the monthly donations to Holstein Homes for children. http://www.umhcservices.com...

when religious people hold meeting most of the meeting time is taken up by just thinking up what needs of their community needs aid and planing how to do it. whether it involves finding funds to purchase food to send to seniors or labor of people to volunteer to put together shut-ins.

it's not all missionary 'spreading the word'. in fact I would say its not even mostly that that we do. criticize the rationality of our beliefs but don't think we are not very organized in our donations to charities, running charities, and generally anything else the community needs support in.

'Welfare' does not even come close to being a peer in 'organized generousness' of what religious people put together.
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9/20/2010 10:27:33 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
She points out that religious people tend to be more generous but might I add that non-religious people tend to be more liberal and endorse more social-welfare which is simply an organized version.

So you're saying that religious people tend to be more generous with their money, and non-religious people tend to be more generous with other people's money?
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9/20/2010 10:30:34 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/20/2010 10:27:33 AM, LaissezFaire wrote:
She points out that religious people tend to be more generous but might I add that non-religious people tend to be more liberal and endorse more social-welfare which is simply an organized version.

So you're saying that religious people tend to be more generous with their money, and non-religious people tend to be more generous with other people's money?

10/10 win ;)
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9/20/2010 10:37:54 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/20/2010 10:30:34 AM, Marauder wrote:
At 9/20/2010 10:27:33 AM, LaissezFaire wrote:
She points out that religious people tend to be more generous but might I add that non-religious people tend to be more liberal and endorse more social-welfare which is simply an organized version.

So you're saying that religious people tend to be more generous with their money, and non-religious people tend to be more generous with other people's money?

10/10 win ;)

No, not win.

Supporting social programs isn't just being generous with other peoples money, the money comes from your taxes as well.
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9/20/2010 10:40:52 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/20/2010 10:37:54 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 9/20/2010 10:30:34 AM, Marauder wrote:
At 9/20/2010 10:27:33 AM, LaissezFaire wrote:
She points out that religious people tend to be more generous but might I add that non-religious people tend to be more liberal and endorse more social-welfare which is simply an organized version.

So you're saying that religious people tend to be more generous with their money, and non-religious people tend to be more generous with other people's money?

10/10 win ;)

No, not win.

Supporting social programs isn't just being generous with other peoples money, the money comes from your taxes as well.


Did you even think about that before you typed it?
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9/20/2010 10:47:11 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/19/2010 8:11:15 PM, belle wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk...

what do you guys think?

Sounds reasonable. It's been known for quite some time that religiosity has certain psychological benefits. Although, the overall impact of religion on human lives at the macro level, as opposed to the individual benefits to each person seems pretty negative to me.
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9/20/2010 11:09:21 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/20/2010 10:37:54 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 9/20/2010 10:30:34 AM, Marauder wrote:
At 9/20/2010 10:27:33 AM, LaissezFaire wrote:
She points out that religious people tend to be more generous but might I add that non-religious people tend to be more liberal and endorse more social-welfare which is simply an organized version.

So you're saying that religious people tend to be more generous with their money, and non-religious people tend to be more generous with other people's money?

10/10 win ;)

No, not win.

Supporting social programs isn't just being generous with other peoples money, the money comes from your taxes as well.

So instead of being generous with JUST MY MONEY I could support social programs to be generous with some of that and other peoples money? all the while this portion of my money and other peoples money is managed by proven incompetent people with money http://www.usdebtclock.org... ?

FAIL
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9/20/2010 11:59:28 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/20/2010 10:37:54 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 9/20/2010 10:30:34 AM, Marauder wrote:
At 9/20/2010 10:27:33 AM, LaissezFaire wrote:
She points out that religious people tend to be more generous but might I add that non-religious people tend to be more liberal and endorse more social-welfare which is simply an organized version.

So you're saying that religious people tend to be more generous with their money, and non-religious people tend to be more generous with other people's money?

10/10 win ;)

No, not win.

Supporting social programs isn't just being generous with other peoples money, the money comes from your taxes as well.

lmao, Geo. The vast majority of it comes from other people; stop playing semantics.
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9/20/2010 6:37:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/20/2010 10:27:33 AM, LaissezFaire wrote:
She points out that religious people tend to be more generous but might I add that non-religious people tend to be more liberal and endorse more social-welfare which is simply an organized version.

So you're saying that religious people tend to be more generous with their money, and non-religious people tend to be more generous with other people's money?

lol @ this
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