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11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)
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11/15/2015 2:40:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

The word is angel! Poor old Satan/Lucifer could never be any worse than the evil deity featured in the Bible!!
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11/15/2015 2:41:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

Are they acute or obtuse?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
Chaosism
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11/15/2015 2:56:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/15/2015 2:41:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

Are they acute or obtuse?

They are on God's side, so they're always right. Duh!
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11/15/2015 3:03:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/15/2015 2:56:50 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:41:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

Are they acute or obtuse?

They are on God's side, so they're always right. Duh!

I'm sorry but I only recognise acute and obtuse, if it is not obtuse then it must be acute.
And I am RIGHT, because it isn't obtuse. It may not be acute but it is. tada.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
Chaosism
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11/15/2015 3:07:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/15/2015 3:03:56 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:56:50 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:41:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

Are they acute or obtuse?

They are on God's side, so they're always right. Duh!

I'm sorry but I only recognise acute and obtuse, if it is not obtuse then it must be acute.
And I am RIGHT, because it isn't obtuse. It may not be acute but it is. tada.

Darn your impenetrable logic!
IntellectVsSpirit5000
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11/15/2015 9:29:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/15/2015 2:40:03 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

The word is angel! Poor old Satan/Lucifer could never be any worse than the evil deity featured in the Bible!!

Which part of the Biblical deity do you find evil?
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11/15/2015 9:34:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

If i was Lucifer... what would you help me with? Also; explain to me what this home is?
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11/15/2015 9:53:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/15/2015 2:56:50 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:41:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

Are they acute or obtuse?

They are on God's side, so they're always right. Duh!

God is everywhere so that would require a revolution. You need to reflex on that. TaDa!
Skyangel
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11/16/2015 1:58:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/15/2015 2:41:11 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

Are they acute or obtuse?

They are FULL angles..
FULL of it. ;-)
http://www.mathopenref.com...
Skyangel
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11/16/2015 2:00:09 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/15/2015 9:34:50 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

If i was Lucifer... what would you help me with? Also; explain to me what this home is?

Home is where the heart is.
IntellectVsSpirit5000
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11/16/2015 2:16:52 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 2:00:09 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/15/2015 9:34:50 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

If i was Lucifer... what would you help me with? Also; explain to me what this home is?

Home is where the heart is.

Then your home is in your chest behind your rib cage thou literalist.
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11/16/2015 2:35:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
The irony for those who believe that "Lucifer" refers to Satan is that the same title ('morning star' or 'light-bearer') is used to refer to Jesus, in 2 Peter 1:19, where the Greek text has exactly the same term: 'phos-phoros' 'light-bearer.' This is also the term used for Jesus in Revelation 22:16.

(Composer's Source: http://lds-mormon.com...)
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11/16/2015 2:36:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 2:16:52 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:00:09 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/15/2015 9:34:50 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

If i was Lucifer... what would you help me with? Also; explain to me what this home is?

Home is where the heart is.

Then your home is in your chest behind your rib cage thou literalist.

I am not the one who believes that a supernatural person literally walked this Earth and literally rose from the dead.
Obviously you are very confused.
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11/16/2015 2:38:05 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 2:36:11 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:16:52 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:00:09 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/15/2015 9:34:50 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

If i was Lucifer... what would you help me with? Also; explain to me what this home is?

Home is where the heart is.

Then your home is in your chest behind your rib cage thou literalist.

I am not the one who believes that a supernatural person literally walked this Earth and literally rose from the dead.
Obviously you are very confused.

You literally believe there was nothing. Then poof! Explain how that happened. Sounds like a "myth" to me.
Outplayz
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11/16/2015 2:44:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 2:00:09 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/15/2015 9:34:50 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

If i was Lucifer... what would you help me with? Also; explain to me what this home is?

Home is where the heart is.

They say the heart's aura is green. Funny thing is i've seen this aura around me; most probably a momentary hallucination... but, it is what got me into spirituality...it was the push. I was in high school and never thought of spirituality much until this happened (I also saw blue on my cousin). They looked exactly like an L.E.D light... for at least one second; but very visible to me, shot up our arms (mine was maybe two seconds; a little longer bc it happened later). Then; of course, i went online and searched "wtf did i just see"... and, it all started from there :-)
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11/16/2015 2:49:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 2:35:22 AM, Composer wrote:
The irony for those who believe that "Lucifer" refers to Satan is that the same title ('morning star' or 'light-bearer') is used to refer to Jesus, in 2 Peter 1:19, where the Greek text has exactly the same term: 'phos-phoros' 'light-bearer.' This is also the term used for Jesus in Revelation 22:16.

(Composer's Source: http://lds-mormon.com...)

You are correct Composer.

The concept is that light, sinlessness ( Jesus ) became darkness, sin ( Satan ) or good became evil or the truth became a lie in the judgment of the men who rejected and crucified it.

Matt 6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

2 Cor 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

It is not about a character but about a principle.
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11/16/2015 2:58:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 2:38:05 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:36:11 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:16:52 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:00:09 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/15/2015 9:34:50 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

If i was Lucifer... what would you help me with? Also; explain to me what this home is?

Home is where the heart is.

Then your home is in your chest behind your rib cage thou literalist.

I am not the one who believes that a supernatural person literally walked this Earth and literally rose from the dead.
Obviously you are very confused.

You literally believe there was nothing. Then poof! Explain how that happened. Sounds like a "myth" to me.

I do not literally believe that once upon a time there was nothing.
I do not believe that anything magically "poofed" into being through someone speaking it into being or though some unexplained "big bang" phenomenon either.

I believe energy has always existed in innumerable forms. I believe energy cannot be created or destroyed according to the law of conservation of energy. If the law of conservation of energy is true and all things are ultimately made of energy, logically all things are eternal and simply constantly change form as the energy cycles through its various innumerable cycles.

I believe God is merely a personification of that Eternal Energy.
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11/16/2015 3:08:36 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 2:44:29 AM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:00:09 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/15/2015 9:34:50 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

If i was Lucifer... what would you help me with? Also; explain to me what this home is?

Home is where the heart is.

They say the heart's aura is green. Funny thing is i've seen this aura around me; most probably a momentary hallucination... but, it is what got me into spirituality...it was the push. I was in high school and never thought of spirituality much until this happened (I also saw blue on my cousin). They looked exactly like an L.E.D light... for at least one second; but very visible to me, shot up our arms (mine was maybe two seconds; a little longer bc it happened later). Then; of course, i went online and searched "wtf did i just see"... and, it all started from there :-)

"They" say a lot of things. "They" obviously have many different perceptions. "They" like to tell stories. Some believe their stories and some do not.
Hallucinating people tend to fool themselves with the images in their own minds.
Some are just gullible and never grow out of that gullibility.
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11/16/2015 3:14:31 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 2:58:47 AM, Skyangel wrote:
I believe God is merely a personification of that Eternal Energy.

ALL alleged Supernatural God(s) are merely human devised concepts to try to explain what man doesn't yet & Or may never come to comprehend or legitimately explain!

i.e. ' God did it / God of the Gaps ' mentality!
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11/16/2015 3:51:03 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 3:14:31 AM, Composer wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:58:47 AM, Skyangel wrote:
I believe God is merely a personification of that Eternal Energy.

ALL alleged Supernatural God(s) are merely human devised concepts to try to explain what man doesn't yet & Or may never come to comprehend or legitimately explain!

i.e. ' God did it / God of the Gaps ' mentality!


All alleged supernatural gods are merely personifications of the powers/ energy of the universe.
That's my accepted explanation for gods.

Energy has been legitimately explained.
Law of conservation of energy implies that it is eternal and immortal.
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11/16/2015 4:00:59 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 3:08:36 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:44:29 AM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:00:09 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/15/2015 9:34:50 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

If i was Lucifer... what would you help me with? Also; explain to me what this home is?

Home is where the heart is.

They say the heart's aura is green. Funny thing is i've seen this aura around me; most probably a momentary hallucination... but, it is what got me into spirituality...it was the push. I was in high school and never thought of spirituality much until this happened (I also saw blue on my cousin). They looked exactly like an L.E.D light... for at least one second; but very visible to me, shot up our arms (mine was maybe two seconds; a little longer bc it happened later). Then; of course, i went online and searched "wtf did i just see"... and, it all started from there :-)

"They" say a lot of things. "They" obviously have many different perceptions. "They" like to tell stories. Some believe their stories and some do not.

I know i am not a part of your common "they." I am rather a skeptical human. But, every story i tell... is real. It is exactly what happened. Does it matter to you; it shouldn't, unless of course you choose to listen. Even then it is for entertainment unless some aspects feed into your morals and values, yet even then it is still entertainment. Point is, we are separate beings and always will be. How you choose to live is in your hands, but i cannot deny what i have witnessed feeding into how i live. Is it all my mind's tricks? It really prob. is. Our minds are a powerful thing. How powerful is my only question.

Hallucinating people tend to fool themselves with the images in their own minds.

There is power in these hallucinations... self awareness. I do believe people are too gullible though. I have truly had an experience that some would call themselves god over... Yet, there is no such thing... the only power i believe in is my own mind. Can it do things that we still don't know... i think that is probable.

Some are just gullible and never grow out of that gullibility.

They will, eventually. To me spirituality is personal. You believe what you do bc you are who you are. You just happen to be smarter than the rest. You are wise enough to see iron clad faiths as mere stories... which they are. They beauty in that is your mind becomes free to create what you want... true freedom, true maturity, when you are not chained by another's story. I think that is the point. You can be you without another's influence. A lot are not smart enough to see that... so they follow. I do have a wacky belief in regards to what i want... But, my final point is it doesn't matter. I can have my wacky belief bc i am spiritually free. In the end, i will meet the reaper alone; with my own thoughts.
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11/16/2015 10:02:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 2:35:22 AM, Composer wrote:
The irony for those who believe that "Lucifer" refers to Satan is that the same title ('morning star' or 'light-bearer') is used to refer to Jesus, in 2 Peter 1:19, where the Greek text has exactly the same term: 'phos-phoros' 'light-bearer.' This is also the term used for Jesus in Revelation 22:16.

(Composer's Source: http://lds-mormon.com...

Yes I think Lucifer is the light of the dog of a world and people just use him. Give him nothing don't even tell him who he really is
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11/16/2015 10:08:03 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
While you've a Lucifer to light your fog, smile boys that's the style.

The automatic profanity filter would not permit an a in the middle of fog.
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11/18/2015 10:17:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 4:00:59 AM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/16/2015 3:08:36 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:44:29 AM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:00:09 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/15/2015 9:34:50 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

If i was Lucifer... what would you help me with? Also; explain to me what this home is?

Home is where the heart is.

They say the heart's aura is green. Funny thing is i've seen this aura around me; most probably a momentary hallucination... but, it is what got me into spirituality...it was the push. I was in high school and never thought of spirituality much until this happened (I also saw blue on my cousin). They looked exactly like an L.E.D light... for at least one second; but very visible to me, shot up our arms (mine was maybe two seconds; a little longer bc it happened later). Then; of course, i went online and searched "wtf did i just see"... and, it all started from there :-)

"They" say a lot of things. "They" obviously have many different perceptions. "They" like to tell stories. Some believe their stories and some do not.

I know i am not a part of your common "they." I am rather a skeptical human. But, every story i tell... is real. It is exactly what happened. Does it matter to you; it shouldn't, unless of course you choose to listen. Even then it is for entertainment unless some aspects feed into your morals and values, yet even then it is still entertainment. Point is, we are separate beings and always will be. How you choose to live is in your hands, but i cannot deny what i have witnessed feeding into how i live. Is it all my mind's tricks? It really prob. is. Our minds are a powerful thing. How powerful is my only question.


People who play around with drugs suffer the effect of those drugs. I do not doubt they experience what they claim to experience but it has nothing to do with the power of the mind. It has everything to do with the power of the drugs.

Hallucinating people tend to fool themselves with the images in their own minds.

There is power in these hallucinations... self awareness. I do believe people are too gullible though. I have truly had an experience that some would call themselves god over... Yet, there is no such thing... the only power i believe in is my own mind. Can it do things that we still don't know... i think that is probable.

Things like what? Oh that's right, you don't have a clue.
All fools are self aware in the sense of being aware of their own existence. However, very few are aware that they are fools.
The human mind has power to create illusions, delusions, self deceptions, visions, etc and convinces us all that what we feel and see is real regardless of whether it is or not.
A healthy balanced mind can tell the difference between what is real and what is not. An unbalanced mind is unhealthy and cannot tell the difference.

Some are just gullible and never grow out of that gullibility.

They will, eventually. To me spirituality is personal. You believe what you do bc you are who you are. You just happen to be smarter than the rest. You are wise enough to see iron clad faiths as mere stories... which they are. They beauty in that is your mind becomes free to create what you want... true freedom, true maturity, when you are not chained by another's story. I think that is the point. You can be you without another's influence. A lot are not smart enough to see that... so they follow. I do have a wacky belief in regards to what i want... But, my final point is it doesn't matter. I can have my wacky belief bc i am spiritually free. In the end, i will meet the reaper alone; with my own thoughts.

Very Few grow out of gullibility. If they did eventually, we would not have millions of people on this planet worshiping invisible supernatural characters. They would have a more mature outlook and understand ALL gods including their own invisible supernatural figure, are mythical characters.

As for any reaper, I understand you are referring to the grim reaper which represents death.

I agree that we all die alone.

However, in reality all of us are reapers in a sense. We reap or glean whatever we wish to keep from the thoughts that others share with us. Those thoughts have the power to "give birth to" or inspire new thoughts in others and also have the power to kill thoughts in the sense of destroying the immature thoughts in the process of replacing them with more mature thoughts.

Our thoughts, ideas, concepts, live on in those who have accepted and embraced them. That is how and why the idea or concept of any invisible supernatural gods ( good or bad) at all existing continues in the minds of many humans. The superstitions have been passed down for centuries and the gullible youth are convinced to trust their elders and believe them rather than question them.
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11/18/2015 11:37:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 2:00:09 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/15/2015 9:34:50 PM, Outplayz wrote:

People who play around with drugs suffer the effect of those drugs. I do not doubt they experience what they claim to experience but it has nothing to do with the power of the mind. It has everything to do with the power of the drugs.

One: this was a legal drug and i didn't think it would have the effects it had; plus, mine was a rare case bc i am almost positive my body naturally released DMT due to the fact the legal drug convinced me i died. And two, i disagree... it is the power of the mind altered by the drug. So, minds have the capacity to be wired in such ways... like schizophrenic suffers. It doesn't defeat the purpose that it is our brain doing the illusions. However, i am no expert on drugs, so i may be ignorant to there effects fully.

Hallucinating people tend to fool themselves with the images in their own minds.

There is power in these hallucinations... self awareness. I do believe people are too gullible though. I have truly had an experience that some would call themselves god over... Yet, there is no such thing... the only power i believe in is my own mind. Can it do things that we still don't know... i think that is probable.

Things like what? Oh that's right, you don't have a clue.

Yeah, i don't have a clue. I meant probable in the far future helped or discovered through science. I just think it would be close minded to think we are in an advanced stage of knowledge when it comes to discoveries; especially in regards to the human mind.

All fools are self aware in the sense of being aware of their own existence. However, very few are aware that they are fools.

That is troubling, and true. But, the thing is... people are just being egocentric fools in those moments. People just argue for their "labels" sake. Get them drunk and have a good time; they will say they don't know or that they are just trolling. The ones that are literally lost in fantasy i wouldn't called fools; i would call them mentally ill or sub human. I believe these people will lose however. Time will tell.

The human mind has power to create illusions, delusions, self deceptions, visions, etc and convinces us all that what we feel and see is real regardless of whether it is or not. A healthy balanced mind can tell the difference between what is real and what is not. An unbalanced mind is unhealthy and cannot tell the difference.

I find something special in these "illusions." For now i can't say why bc there really isn't a good reason. But, that doesn't take away from the fact that reality is where my efforts are needed. So, i absolutely agree that one should know and acknowledge the difference btw fantasy and reality. I call that a mature self - aware human being. The only difference is you are promoting a reality based thinking; i promote the what if type of thinking.

As for any reaper, I understand you are referring to the grim reaper which represents death.

I agree that we all die alone.

I like using that name as an analogy to death. It sounds pretty cool: "Take my black wings as the grim reaper steadies the water through the torched veil." I use to right a lot of poetry, so i am prone to using metaphors and analogies. ;-)

However, in reality all of us are reapers in a sense. We reap or glean whatever we wish to keep from the thoughts that others share with us. Those thoughts have the power to "give birth to" or inspire new thoughts in others and also have the power to kill thoughts in the sense of destroying the immature thoughts in the process of replacing them with more mature thoughts.

You have no idea how much this fits into my spiritual thoughts. But you know i agree... I think anyone worshiping something invisible is childish... I think we should worship ourselves and what we want to in our surroundings. Funny thing is... tell this to a theist; you are wrong and Satanic...Lol. The truth is Satanic. Religion has done a fine job of brainwashing.

Our thoughts, ideas, concepts, live on in those who have accepted and embraced them. That is how and why the idea or concept of any invisible supernatural gods ( good or bad) at all existing continues in the minds of many humans. The superstitions have been passed down for centuries and the gullible youth are convinced to trust their elders and believe them rather than question them.

I think these supernatural gods were needed and why they are. But, i am talking about a time when we thought the stars were souls. We are growing in knowledge and it should be clear that these are just imagination... very human. I don't get it, bc it doesn't mean a person that believes in religion can't be spiritual still... Yet, they fail to separate themselves from myths. Smart people use these myths to gain status and money; which in turn keeps the myths going. I mean, if i ever faced the pope, i'd make him kneel to me. We just have to wait until others become that confident in facing and acknowledging myths.
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11/18/2015 11:42:08 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/16/2015 2:36:11 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:16:52 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:00:09 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/15/2015 9:34:50 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/15/2015 2:37:09 PM, AVicu wrote:
Do you know that god love's his Angle's including Lucifer he is not the devil he is here with us. but he is not bad far from it. God and his Angle's are helping him find his way home. He has the love from above ;)

If i was Lucifer... what would you help me with? Also; explain to me what this home is?

Home is where the heart is.

Then your home is in your chest behind your rib cage thou literalist.

I am not the one who believes that a supernatural person literally walked this Earth and literally rose from the dead.
Obviously you are very confused.

Some of us know that god is with us. He never gets old he is asking why do I look so young. Soon will have to tell him. But his not ready yet.
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11/19/2015 1:50:59 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/18/2015 11:37:18 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:00:09 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/15/2015 9:34:50 PM, Outplayz wrote:

People who play around with drugs suffer the effect of those drugs. I do not doubt they experience what they claim to experience but it has nothing to do with the power of the mind. It has everything to do with the power of the drugs.

One: this was a legal drug and i didn't think it would have the effects it had; plus, mine was a rare case bc i am almost positive my body naturally released DMT due to the fact the legal drug convinced me i died. And two, i disagree... it is the power of the mind altered by the drug. So, minds have the capacity to be wired in such ways... like schizophrenic suffers. It doesn't defeat the purpose that it is our brain doing the illusions. However, i am no expert on drugs, so i may be ignorant to there effects fully.


Of course minds can be chemically altered and the human body also releases its own chemicals. Some brains obviously have a chemical imbalance which can be normalized or balanced with medication. However, what is normal?
Foolishness is normal to any fool.

There is power in these hallucinations... self awareness. I do believe people are too gullible though. I have truly had an experience that some would call themselves god over... Yet, there is no such thing... the only power i believe in is my own mind. Can it do things that we still don't know... i think that is probable.

Things like what? Oh that's right, you don't have a clue.

Yeah, i don't have a clue. I meant probable in the far future helped or discovered through science. I just think it would be close minded to think we are in an advanced stage of knowledge when it comes to discoveries; especially in regards to the human mind.

The mind obviously has the ability to acquire information, gain knowledge and understanding about that information and use it for good or evil purposes depending on ones perception and definition of what is good and bad. Knowledge will always increase as long as humans search for answers to their questions. It has always been that way and I can't see that principle changing. Individuals stop gaining knowledge on the day they die and their brain becomes dust. However, knowledge keeps increasing in the overall sense of future generations supposedly "improving" on the information which the older generations passed down to them. That is sadly not always the case when the future generations simply learn to repeat the older generations mistakes, parrot the same beliefs, false doctrines, sci fi theories, and use the same "methods" to think as their self deceived superstitious ancestors did.

All fools are self aware in the sense of being aware of their own existence. However, very few are aware that they are fools.

That is troubling, and true. But, the thing is... people are just being egocentric fools in those moments. People just argue for their "labels" sake. Get them drunk and have a good time; they will say they don't know or that they are just trolling. The ones that are literally lost in fantasy i wouldn't called fools; i would call them mentally ill or sub human. I believe these people will lose however. Time will tell.


Lose what?
They have already lost their minds.
Fools have everything to gain by losing their foolishness.
Mentally unstable people have everything to gain by losing their mental instability.
Immature people have nothing but immaturity to lose and maturity to gain.
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11/19/2015 2:28:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/18/2015 11:37:18 PM, Outplayz wrote:
At 11/16/2015 2:00:09 AM, Skyangel wrote:

The human mind has power to create illusions, delusions, self deceptions, visions, etc and convinces us all that what we feel and see is real regardless of whether it is or not. A healthy balanced mind can tell the difference between what is real and what is not. An unbalanced mind is unhealthy and cannot tell the difference.

I find something special in these "illusions." For now i can't say why bc there really isn't a good reason. But, that doesn't take away from the fact that reality is where my efforts are needed. So, i absolutely agree that one should know and acknowledge the difference btw fantasy and reality. I call that a mature self - aware human being. The only difference is you are promoting a reality based thinking; i promote the what if type of thinking.

Alcoholics don't have a good reason for drinking either. All they know is they enjoy it and can't help themselves. Any reason or excuse to drink is good enough for them. They are addicted.
The "what if" type of thinking is promoting fantasy based thinking. If you wish to encourage imagination and creativity, that is all good and well but it needs to be balanced with the opposite. If it is not, the result is that you become unbalanced.
Most people are addicted to their own thoughts and have no clue how to stop believing what they believe. Most cannot see from an opposite perspective to their own. They have selective blindness and see only what they want to see as they deny and reject what they don't want to see.

As for any reaper, I understand you are referring to the grim reaper which represents death.

I agree that we all die alone.

I like using that name as an analogy to death. It sounds pretty cool: "Take my black wings as the grim reaper steadies the water through the torched veil." I use to right a lot of poetry, so i am prone to using metaphors and analogies. ;-)

However, in reality all of us are reapers in a sense. We reap or glean whatever we wish to keep from the thoughts that others share with us. Those thoughts have the power to "give birth to" or inspire new thoughts in others and also have the power to kill thoughts in the sense of destroying the immature thoughts in the process of replacing them with more mature thoughts.

You have no idea how much this fits into my spiritual thoughts. But you know i agree... I think anyone worshiping something invisible is childish... I think we should worship ourselves and what we want to in our surroundings. Funny thing is... tell this to a theist; you are wrong and Satanic...Lol. The truth is Satanic. Religion has done a fine job of brainwashing.


I prefer to use the word "respect" than the word "worship" when it comes to ourselves and life in general. The word "worship" has implications of inequality in the sense of bowing down to something superior to yourself or being inferior to whatever you are worshiping. The word "respect" implies more of a concept of equality, that you see yourself equal to your own standards and part of your own surroundings.

Religion has brainwashed believers to believe they are born inferior to some invisible God. They are taught to believe they are weak and evil sinners who need to bow down to an invisible being who demands perfection from them and commands the highest standards possible yet makes it impossible to attain those standards in this life on Earth.
Worshiping a character like that is futile. It does nothing for human self esteem but reduces people to whimpering whining slaves who are inferior to and dependant on mythical characters.

Our thoughts, ideas, concepts, live on in those who have accepted and embraced them. That is how and why the idea or concept of any invisible supernatural gods ( good or bad) at all existing continues in the minds of many humans. The superstitions have been passed down for centuries and the gullible youth are convinced to trust their elders and believe them rather than question them.

I think these supernatural gods were needed and why they are. But, i am talking about a time when we thought the stars were souls. We are growing in knowledge and it should be clear that these are just imagination... very human.

Of course they are imaginations but comparing stars to people can also be seen as allegories or metaphors. Humans like stars which cannot be numbered due to being too many to count and due to them "appearing" and disappearing in the process of the cycles of the universe which make things look as though they are "being born and dying" when in fact they are merely energy recycling itself.
Creative writers obviously understand allegories and metaphors a lot better than people who are not interested in creative writing and prefer to interpret what they read literally on face value.

I don't get it, bc it doesn't mean a person that believes in religion can't be spiritual still... Yet, they fail to separate themselves from myths. Smart people use these myths to gain status and money; which in turn keeps the myths going. I mean, if i ever faced the pope, i'd make him kneel to me. We just have to wait until others become that confident in facing and acknowledging myths.

And how would you make the pope kneel to you ?
Not kneeling before him or performing ring kissing rituals is one thing but making him kneel to you or KYA. is quite another. ;-)