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Have you seen a "spirit"?

MadCornishBiker
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11/20/2015 12:43:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Whatever you may wish to think, the only possible true answer is no.

No-one has ever seen a spirit. It is impossible since they are not visible to physical eyes.

Some few have "seen" the visions which Angels have placed in their minds on Jehovah's instructions. Visions which can seem 100% real, even solid.

Even rarer have been those who, since the flood at least, have seen spirits who have materialised human bodies in which state to be seen. Such was the case with the angels who visited Abraham and Lot, and with Christ when he materialised a body, after his resurrection, in order to visit and strengthen his disciples.

Many more have seen visions given them by Satan and his demons, supposedly of long dead people, or even family and friends.

Not one has ever actually seen a spirit, in its normal form, nor would they survive for a moment if they did, since a powerful spirit would destroy them simply by the power of it's presence. Spirits are beings made up from unimaginable power, energy, but even the greatest of those, Jehovah's only begotten son, is only a small fraction of the power of their creator.

We all contain, in our bodies a most minuscule amount of spirit, and it is that which gives everything, from the smallest microbe onwards the precious gift of life, and it is that which returns to the one who sent it when we die, when our feeble bodies become too weak to contain it any longer.

It is also that which allows Jehovah to, through his son, communicate with us should he wish to, and also Satan to do the same should we allow him to, as so many do without even knowing it.

When used by Jehovah, his son, or their servants it is referred to in scripture as holy spirit.

When used by Satan it is referred to as an evil spirit.

It is neither good nor evil of itself, that is a state which belongs only to sentience, only according to the use for which it is put, and who by.
Gaetan
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11/20/2015 6:01:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/20/2015 12:43:00 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Whatever you may wish to think, the only possible true answer is no.

No-one has ever seen a spirit. It is impossible since they are not visible to physical eyes.


I saw a lot of spirits and djinns and a lot of people saw them.
GrittyWorm
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11/20/2015 6:50:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/20/2015 12:43:00 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Whatever you may wish to think, the only possible true answer is no.

No-one has ever seen a spirit. It is impossible since they are not visible to physical eyes.

Some few have "seen" the visions which Angels have placed in their minds on Jehovah's instructions. Visions which can seem 100% real, even solid.

Even rarer have been those who, since the flood at least, have seen spirits who have materialised human bodies in which state to be seen. Such was the case with the angels who visited Abraham and Lot, and with Christ when he materialised a body, after his resurrection, in order to visit and strengthen his disciples.

Many more have seen visions given them by Satan and his demons, supposedly of long dead people, or even family and friends.

Not one has ever actually seen a spirit, in its normal form, nor would they survive for a moment if they did, since a powerful spirit would destroy them simply by the power of it's presence. Spirits are beings made up from unimaginable power, energy, but even the greatest of those, Jehovah's only begotten son, is only a small fraction of the power of their creator.

We all contain, in our bodies a most minuscule amount of spirit, and it is that which gives everything, from the smallest microbe onwards the precious gift of life, and it is that which returns to the one who sent it when we die, when our feeble bodies become too weak to contain it any longer.

It is also that which allows Jehovah to, through his son, communicate with us should he wish to, and also Satan to do the same should we allow him to, as so many do without even knowing it.

When used by Jehovah, his son, or their servants it is referred to in scripture as holy spirit.

When used by Satan it is referred to as an evil spirit.

It is neither good nor evil of itself, that is a state which belongs only to sentience, only according to the use for which it is put, and who by.

I have seen spirits at the liquor store.
janesix
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11/20/2015 7:11:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/20/2015 6:50:16 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 11/20/2015 12:43:00 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Whatever you may wish to think, the only possible true answer is no.

No-one has ever seen a spirit. It is impossible since they are not visible to physical eyes.

Some few have "seen" the visions which Angels have placed in their minds on Jehovah's instructions. Visions which can seem 100% real, even solid.

Even rarer have been those who, since the flood at least, have seen spirits who have materialised human bodies in which state to be seen. Such was the case with the angels who visited Abraham and Lot, and with Christ when he materialised a body, after his resurrection, in order to visit and strengthen his disciples.

Many more have seen visions given them by Satan and his demons, supposedly of long dead people, or even family and friends.

Not one has ever actually seen a spirit, in its normal form, nor would they survive for a moment if they did, since a powerful spirit would destroy them simply by the power of it's presence. Spirits are beings made up from unimaginable power, energy, but even the greatest of those, Jehovah's only begotten son, is only a small fraction of the power of their creator.

We all contain, in our bodies a most minuscule amount of spirit, and it is that which gives everything, from the smallest microbe onwards the precious gift of life, and it is that which returns to the one who sent it when we die, when our feeble bodies become too weak to contain it any longer.

It is also that which allows Jehovah to, through his son, communicate with us should he wish to, and also Satan to do the same should we allow him to, as so many do without even knowing it.

When used by Jehovah, his son, or their servants it is referred to in scripture as holy spirit.

When used by Satan it is referred to as an evil spirit.

It is neither good nor evil of itself, that is a state which belongs only to sentience, only according to the use for which it is put, and who by.

I have seen spirits at the liquor store.

That explains a lot.

(Just kidding!)
janesix
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11/20/2015 7:42:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/20/2015 12:43:00 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Whatever you may wish to think, the only possible true answer is no.

No-one has ever seen a spirit. It is impossible since they are not visible to physical eyes.

Some few have "seen" the visions which Angels have placed in their minds on Jehovah's instructions. Visions which can seem 100% real, even solid.

Even rarer have been those who, since the flood at least, have seen spirits who have materialised human bodies in which state to be seen. Such was the case with the angels who visited Abraham and Lot, and with Christ when he materialised a body, after his resurrection, in order to visit and strengthen his disciples.

Many more have seen visions given them by Satan and his demons, supposedly of long dead people, or even family and friends.

Not one has ever actually seen a spirit, in its normal form, nor would they survive for a moment if they did, since a powerful spirit would destroy them simply by the power of it's presence. Spirits are beings made up from unimaginable power, energy, but even the greatest of those, Jehovah's only begotten son, is only a small fraction of the power of their creator.

We all contain, in our bodies a most minuscule amount of spirit, and it is that which gives everything, from the smallest microbe onwards the precious gift of life, and it is that which returns to the one who sent it when we die, when our feeble bodies become too weak to contain it any longer.

It is also that which allows Jehovah to, through his son, communicate with us should he wish to, and also Satan to do the same should we allow him to, as so many do without even knowing it.

When used by Jehovah, his son, or their servants it is referred to in scripture as holy spirit.

When used by Satan it is referred to as an evil spirit.

It is neither good nor evil of itself, that is a state which belongs only to sentience, only according to the use for which it is put, and who by.

I have seen the life force. Not sure if I'd call that a spirit though.
RuvDraba
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11/20/2015 8:47:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/20/2015 12:43:00 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Whatever you may wish to think, the only possible true answer is no.
I don't think yes or no are credible answers because the question itself is incoherent.

If you saw something you suspected to be a spirit, how could you confirm independently that it was?

If you believe nobody had ever seen a spirit, what criteria would you be using to validate their existence?

Lacking verifiability or falsifiability, how is spirit an objectively coherent concept? Isn't it simply an appeal to dogmatism, intuition and superstition?
Skyangel
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11/20/2015 11:23:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/20/2015 12:43:00 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Whatever you may wish to think, the only possible true answer is no.

No-one has ever seen a spirit. It is impossible since they are not visible to physical eyes.

Is Love a spirit or not?
Have you ever seen Love MCB ?
What about hate?

Some few have "seen" the visions which Angels have placed in their minds on Jehovah's instructions. Visions which can seem 100% real, even solid.

So can hallucinations and mirages.

Even rarer have been those who, since the flood at least, have seen spirits who have materialised human bodies in which state to be seen. Such was the case with the angels who visited Abraham and Lot, and with Christ when he materialised a body, after his resurrection, in order to visit and strengthen his disciples.

Truth and Life materialized in me too. I AM one with truth and Life.

Many more have seen visions given them by Satan and his demons, supposedly of long dead people, or even family and friends.

Many people experience delusions and imaginations of the mind and are deceived by them.

Not one has ever actually seen a spirit, in its normal form, nor would they survive for a moment if they did, since a powerful spirit would destroy them simply by the power of it's presence. Spirits are beings made up from unimaginable power, energy, but even the greatest of those, Jehovah's only begotten son, is only a small fraction of the power of their creator.

The spirit of Life can be recognized in all life forms. It is the energy which animates the living things and causes them to look alive. When that spirit of life departs from the dead, they are not longer animated or energetic.

We all contain, in our bodies a most minuscule amount of spirit, and it is that which gives everything, from the smallest microbe onwards the precious gift of life, and it is that which returns to the one who sent it when we die, when our feeble bodies become too weak to contain it any longer.

Another word for it is energy.

It is also that which allows Jehovah to, through his son, communicate with us should he wish to, and also Satan to do the same should we allow him to, as so many do without even knowing it.

Any "communication" with invisible supernatural entities is due to human imagination. It is no different to listening to your own thoughts or conscience.

When used by Jehovah, his son, or their servants it is referred to in scripture as holy spirit.

Jehovah is a personification of the energy in the universe. It is the same principle as Mother Nature being a personification of Nature. The character is mythical. The energy/ power is not.

When used by Satan it is referred to as an evil spirit.

Satan is another mythical personification of anything humans judge as evil, bad or negative.

It is neither good nor evil of itself, that is a state which belongs only to sentience, only according to the use for which it is put, and who by.

Good and evil are nothing but human perceptions and judgments. Mother Nature is neutral. She is neither good nor evil. She is a mythical character. The same applies to any personification ( gods or devils) of natural forces. The forces or energy is real and can be observed. The supernatural characters are not real.
MadCornishBiker
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11/21/2015 3:08:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/20/2015 6:01:35 PM, Gaetan wrote:
At 11/20/2015 12:43:00 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Whatever you may wish to think, the only possible true answer is no.

No-one has ever seen a spirit. It is impossible since they are not visible to physical eyes.


I saw a lot of spirits and djinns and a lot of people saw them.

No, you simply saw what the actual spirits wanted you to see. Spirits are not visible.
Gaetan
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11/21/2015 3:16:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/21/2015 3:08:02 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:

No, you simply saw what the actual spirits wanted you to see. Spirits are not visible.

Spirits are not visible to you but they were visible to me and a lot of people see them.
DanneJeRusse
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11/21/2015 4:05:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/20/2015 12:43:00 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:

Not one has ever actually seen a spirit, in its normal form, nor would they survive for a moment if they did, since a powerful spirit would destroy them simply by the power of it's presence. Spirits are beings made up from unimaginable power, energy, but even the greatest of those, Jehovah's only begotten son, is only a small fraction of the power of their creator.

LOL. As usual, you contradict yourself. If no one has ever seen a spirit, how can you sit there and describe them to us? Once again, you just make this stuff up as you go along. Very childish behavior.
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