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GrittyWorm
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11/24/2015 6:06:07 PM
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I hear from Atheists that Christianity did not build Western culture. So I ask, then why do as many secular Western citizens celebrate Christmas as actual people of faith? There is a reason. Many fundamental ideals of civilized culture have been based off of Christianity. Many nonbelieving Westerners hold fast to beliefs taught in the Bible and don't even consciously understand where they actually got those beliefs from.
FaustianJustice
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11/24/2015 6:12:26 PM
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At 11/24/2015 6:06:07 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
I hear from Atheists that Christianity did not build Western culture. So I ask, then why do as many secular Western citizens celebrate Christmas as actual people of faith? There is a reason. Many fundamental ideals of civilized culture have been based off of Christianity. Many nonbelieving Westerners hold fast to beliefs taught in the Bible and don't even consciously understand where they actually got those beliefs from.

So name said ideals and beliefs.
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
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desmac
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11/24/2015 6:13:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/24/2015 6:06:07 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
I hear from Atheists that Christianity did not build Western culture. So I ask, then why do as many secular Western citizens celebrate Christmas as actual people of faith? There is a reason. Many fundamental ideals of civilized culture have been based off of Christianity. Many nonbelieving Westerners hold fast to beliefs taught in the Bible and don't even consciously understand where they actually got those beliefs from.

Which atheists do you hear that from? If you have a question for the atheists who tell you that address it to them. Nobody has said it on here.
Many people celebrate the Northern European festival of Yule at the winter solstice. The death and rebirth of the sun.
The festival and the idea later stolen by xtians.
GrittyWorm
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11/24/2015 6:17:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/24/2015 6:13:03 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:06:07 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
I hear from Atheists that Christianity did not build Western culture. So I ask, then why do as many secular Western citizens celebrate Christmas as actual people of faith? There is a reason. Many fundamental ideals of civilized culture have been based off of Christianity. Many nonbelieving Westerners hold fast to beliefs taught in the Bible and don't even consciously understand where they actually got those beliefs from.

Which atheists do you hear that from? If you have a question for the atheists who tell you that address it to them. Nobody has said it on here.
Many people celebrate the Northern European festival of Yule at the winter solstice. The death and rebirth of the sun.
The festival and the idea later stolen by xtians.

Sun worshippers didn't pass out gifts. Sorry.
GrittyWorm
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11/24/2015 6:19:14 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/24/2015 6:13:03 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:06:07 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
I hear from Atheists that Christianity did not build Western culture. So I ask, then why do as many secular Western citizens celebrate Christmas as actual people of faith? There is a reason. Many fundamental ideals of civilized culture have been based off of Christianity. Many nonbelieving Westerners hold fast to beliefs taught in the Bible and don't even consciously understand where they actually got those beliefs from.

Which atheists do you hear that from? If you have a question for the atheists who tell you that address it to them. Nobody has said it on here.
Many people celebrate the Northern European festival of Yule at the winter solstice. The death and rebirth of the sun.
The festival and the idea later stolen by xtians.

Why don't Atheists celebrate Ramadan or Hanakuh? And why celebrate a holiday based off of Christ or the sun?
GrittyWorm
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11/24/2015 6:22:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/24/2015 6:13:03 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:06:07 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
I hear from Atheists that Christianity did not build Western culture. So I ask, then why do as many secular Western citizens celebrate Christmas as actual people of faith? There is a reason. Many fundamental ideals of civilized culture have been based off of Christianity. Many nonbelieving Westerners hold fast to beliefs taught in the Bible and don't even consciously understand where they actually got those beliefs from.

Which atheists do you hear that from? If you have a question for the atheists who tell you that address it to them. Nobody has said it on here.
Many people celebrate the Northern European festival of Yule at the winter solstice. The death and rebirth of the sun.
The festival and the idea later stolen by xtians.

Sorry but Abrahamic faiths were depicting the messiah for about 5,000 years. Ever read the jewish Torah or any of their writings pre Christianity?
desmac
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11/24/2015 6:22:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/24/2015 6:19:14 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:13:03 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:06:07 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
I hear from Atheists that Christianity did not build Western culture. So I ask, then why do as many secular Western citizens celebrate Christmas as actual people of faith? There is a reason. Many fundamental ideals of civilized culture have been based off of Christianity. Many nonbelieving Westerners hold fast to beliefs taught in the Bible and don't even consciously understand where they actually got those beliefs from.

Which atheists do you hear that from? If you have a question for the atheists who tell you that address it to them. Nobody has said it on here.
Many people celebrate the Northern European festival of Yule at the winter solstice. The death and rebirth of the sun.
The festival and the idea later stolen by xtians.

Why don't Atheists celebrate Ramadan or Hanakuh? And why celebrate a holiday based off of Christ or the sun?

Because it is the middle of winter and we all need cheering up. A midwinter feast goes back long before the Roman Empire.
FaustianJustice
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11/24/2015 6:23:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/24/2015 6:19:14 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:13:03 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:06:07 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
I hear from Atheists that Christianity did not build Western culture. So I ask, then why do as many secular Western citizens celebrate Christmas as actual people of faith? There is a reason. Many fundamental ideals of civilized culture have been based off of Christianity. Many nonbelieving Westerners hold fast to beliefs taught in the Bible and don't even consciously understand where they actually got those beliefs from.

Which atheists do you hear that from? If you have a question for the atheists who tell you that address it to them. Nobody has said it on here.
Many people celebrate the Northern European festival of Yule at the winter solstice. The death and rebirth of the sun.
The festival and the idea later stolen by xtians.

Why don't Atheists celebrate Ramadan or Hanakuh? And why celebrate a holiday based off of Christ or the sun?

What does "celebrate" mean to you, exactly?
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
http://www.debate.org...
GrittyWorm
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11/24/2015 6:26:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/24/2015 6:22:51 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:19:14 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:13:03 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:06:07 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
I hear from Atheists that Christianity did not build Western culture. So I ask, then why do as many secular Western citizens celebrate Christmas as actual people of faith? There is a reason. Many fundamental ideals of civilized culture have been based off of Christianity. Many nonbelieving Westerners hold fast to beliefs taught in the Bible and don't even consciously understand where they actually got those beliefs from.

Which atheists do you hear that from? If you have a question for the atheists who tell you that address it to them. Nobody has said it on here.
Many people celebrate the Northern European festival of Yule at the winter solstice. The death and rebirth of the sun.
The festival and the idea later stolen by xtians.

Why don't Atheists celebrate Ramadan or Hanakuh? And why celebrate a holiday based off of Christ or the sun?

Because it is the middle of winter and we all need cheering up. A midwinter feast goes back long before the Roman Empire.

Then why despise a belief system that gave you uplifting customs?
desmac
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11/24/2015 6:35:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/24/2015 6:26:18 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:22:51 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:19:14 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:13:03 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/24/2015 6:06:07 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
I hear from Atheists that Christianity did not build Western culture. So I ask, then why do as many secular Western citizens celebrate Christmas as actual people of faith? There is a reason. Many fundamental ideals of civilized culture have been based off of Christianity. Many nonbelieving Westerners hold fast to beliefs taught in the Bible and don't even consciously understand where they actually got those beliefs from.

Which atheists do you hear that from? If you have a question for the atheists who tell you that address it to them. Nobody has said it on here.
Many people celebrate the Northern European festival of Yule at the winter solstice. The death and rebirth of the sun.
The festival and the idea later stolen by xtians.

Why don't Atheists celebrate Ramadan or Hanakuh? And why celebrate a holiday based off of Christ or the sun?

Because it is the middle of winter and we all need cheering up. A midwinter feast goes back long before the Roman Empire.

Then why despise a belief system that gave you uplifting customs?

Because its a pack of lies.