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Skyangel
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12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.
Toad-Uoff
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12/3/2015 5:11:07 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

There are lots of problems with your question because there are WAY too many variables, to the point you argue yourself into a corner.

What do you mean by Invisible?

What do you mean by Supernatural?

What do you mean by God?

What do you mean by Mythical?

What about the Gods that are here playing the game with the kids? Are they Mythical? They could qualify as Invisible, since most don't know they are here, but that makes them anonymous, not invisible.

Etc ...

I'd recommend rewerd'n your Q. ;)

Ribbit :)
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12/3/2015 5:57:19 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?
A god by definition is the idea of a metaphysical agency, typically held to be a paragon of some virtue or principle -- hence holy, sacred and typically held to have some insight into the world superior to human insight -- worshiped, revered and/or propitiated by humans, and held to interact with them. [https://en.wikipedia.org...]

A myth by definition is a traditional story explaining a cultural view or perspective on the world. [http://www.merriam-webster.com...]

All gods by definition are mythical, since they are characters in traditional stories whose very existence captures a world perspective.

Whether they are invisible or supernatural is irrelevant, as is whether exists some metaphysical agency matching the myth.
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12/3/2015 6:17:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 5:57:19 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?
A god by definition is the idea of a metaphysical agency, typically held to be a paragon of some virtue or principle -- hence holy, sacred and typically held to have some insight into the world superior to human insight -- worshiped, revered and/or propitiated by humans, and held to interact with them. [https://en.wikipedia.org...]

A myth by definition is a traditional story explaining a cultural view or perspective on the world. [http://www.merriam-webster.com...]

All gods by definition are mythical, since they are characters in traditional stories whose very existence captures a world perspective.

Whether they are invisible or supernatural is irrelevant, as is whether exists some metaphysical agency matching the myth.

You made a mistake. The definition of MYTH is:

"A traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events."

The use of the werds "supernatural beings" do not necessarily mean Gods. Unicorns, Leprechauns, and Fairies, all qualify as "supernatural beings" but they are not considered Gods.

Also, the OP messed-up and added way too much to the list, clearly signifying that they do not believe in NeverNeverLand because it's obvious they are biased against said Creatures, sourced from using the "invisible" werd in their description. ;)

"You don't look a gift horse in the mouth but that's because you give it an enema instead." - Old Toad Proverb

"eWe iz what eWe duz." - Old Sheepherder's Proverb

Ribbit :)
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12/3/2015 6:19:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

If invisible, how does one know gods exists? If supernatural, how does one know the supernatural exists? If they exist and people somehow know they exist, then either we have the power to observe the invisible (a contradiction) and we know the supernatural exists (another contradiction). They can't be anything other than myths.
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12/3/2015 6:50:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 6:17:47 AM, Toad-Uoff wrote:
At 12/3/2015 5:57:19 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?
A god by definition is the idea of a metaphysical agency, typically held to be a paragon of some virtue or principle -- hence holy, sacred and typically held to have some insight into the world superior to human insight -- worshiped, revered and/or propitiated by humans, and held to interact with them. [https://en.wikipedia.org...]

A myth by definition is a traditional story explaining a cultural view or perspective on the world. [http://www.merriam-webster.com...]

All gods by definition are mythical, since they are characters in traditional stories whose very existence captures a world perspective.

Whether they are invisible or supernatural is irrelevant, as is whether exists some metaphysical agency matching the myth.

You made a mistake. The definition of MYTH is:

"A traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events."

I quoted my source, Toad. M-W has four definitions of myth. I think I caught the sense of the relevant one: gods are mythical because they're traditional, storied characters capturing a belief-system. Which is not to say that other kinds of traditional, storied characters aren't also mythical.

Also, the OP messed-up and added way too much to the list, clearly signifying that they do not believe in NeverNeverLand because it's obvious they are biased against said Creatures, sourced from using the "invisible" werd in their description. ;)
It's probably a straw-man position. Judging from other posts, Skyangel favours transcendental beliefs that are simultaneously syncretic yet utterly dismissive of any other account. She seldom asks a question without eventually offering a lecture on what the 'right' answer should be, delivered in a tone of contempt for anyone who doesn't agree.

So answering this question at all may be construed as an invitation to be lectured later, whether that invitation was intended or not. :)
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12/3/2015 6:50:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 6:19:13 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

If invisible, how does one know gods exists? If supernatural, how does one know the supernatural exists? If they exist and people somehow know they exist, then either we have the power to observe the invisible (a contradiction) and we know the supernatural exists (another contradiction). They can't be anything other than myths.

As per the EXACT question asked, that is correct.

Which was my point in my earlier post, which is simply why ask a question that the answer is OBVIOUS? Thus, it's obvious the OP knows kNot what they ask and they need to restate/restructure their question, with a better choice of werds next time. ;)

"Say as little as you have to, until you have to, and when you have to, be meticulous with your choice of werds." - Zeroth Rule of Law

"Start with bad math, end with bad math, irregardless the answer." - Old Toad Proverb

Ribbit :)
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12/3/2015 6:56:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 6:50:00 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 12/3/2015 6:17:47 AM, Toad-Uoff wrote:
At 12/3/2015 5:57:19 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?
A god by definition is the idea of a metaphysical agency, typically held to be a paragon of some virtue or principle -- hence holy, sacred and typically held to have some insight into the world superior to human insight -- worshiped, revered and/or propitiated by humans, and held to interact with them. [https://en.wikipedia.org...]

A myth by definition is a traditional story explaining a cultural view or perspective on the world. [http://www.merriam-webster.com...]

All gods by definition are mythical, since they are characters in traditional stories whose very existence captures a world perspective.

Whether they are invisible or supernatural is irrelevant, as is whether exists some metaphysical agency matching the myth.

You made a mistake. The definition of MYTH is:

"A traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events."

I quoted my source, Toad. M-W has four definitions of myth. I think I caught the sense of the relevant one: gods are mythical because they're traditional, storied characters capturing a belief-system. Which is not to say that other kinds of traditional, storied characters aren't also mythical.

Also, the OP messed-up and added way too much to the list, clearly signifying that they do not believe in NeverNeverLand because it's obvious they are biased against said Creatures, sourced from using the "invisible" werd in their description. ;)
It's probably a straw-man position. Judging from other posts, Skyangel favours transcendental beliefs that are simultaneously syncretic yet utterly dismissive of any other account. She seldom asks a question without eventually offering a lecture on what the 'right' answer should be, delivered in a tone of contempt for anyone who doesn't agree.

So answering this question at all may be construed as an invitation to be lectured later, whether that invitation was intended or not. :)

You have to be careful with those types. They are commonly redheaded karma vampires and while you can't beat'em in bed, don't try beat'em anywhere outside of the bed. ;)

"Tits don't belong on the list." - George Carlin

Ribbit :)
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12/3/2015 8:26:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.
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12/3/2015 8:56:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

and its not a myth when u say the universe came from "nothing" (such stupidity) or its infinite (which it has no beginning more stupidity).

we come to the conclusion there is a God on logical based evidences not because my holy book says so. got it?
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12/3/2015 12:32:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

True, because they all invented by human mind. Just like thinking " there is no gods "
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12/3/2015 7:29:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

True. I don't believe anything can be supernatural. If there is a creative force, it isnatural and must follow the laws of physics.
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12/3/2015 10:37:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 5:11:07 AM, Toad-Uoff wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

There are lots of problems with your question because there are WAY too many variables, to the point you argue yourself into a corner.

What do you mean by Invisible?

What do you mean by Supernatural?

What do you mean by God?

What do you mean by Mythical?

What about the Gods that are here playing the game with the kids? Are they Mythical? They could qualify as Invisible, since most don't know they are here, but that makes them anonymous, not invisible.

Etc ...

I'd recommend rewerd'n your Q. ;)

Ribbit :)

I recommend you consult a dictionary if you lack understanding of the meaning of the words you are enquiring about.
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12/3/2015 10:51:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 5:57:19 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?
A god by definition is the idea of a metaphysical agency, typically held to be a paragon of some virtue or principle -- hence holy, sacred and typically held to have some insight into the world superior to human insight -- worshiped, revered and/or propitiated by humans, and held to interact with them. [https://en.wikipedia.org...]

A myth by definition is a traditional story explaining a cultural view or perspective on the world. [http://www.merriam-webster.com...]

All gods by definition are mythical, since they are characters in traditional stories whose very existence captures a world perspective.

No all gods are not mythical. Only the ones you define according to your above definition.
That is why I specified invisible supernatural ones. There are also visible natural gods defined as humans in the dictionary. examples are the gods of music, the gods of art, the gods of sports, etc which other humans also idolize and raise up on pedestals as examples to follow.

Whether they are invisible or supernatural is irrelevant, as is whether exists some metaphysical agency matching the myth.

Not at all. An invisible and supernatural god is different to a visible natural god.
Check the dictionary.
It gives definitions of both types.
http://www.merriam-webster.com...

Since there are invisible gods and also visible gods, it is incorrect to claim "All gods by definition are mythical" Checking the above definition in the dictionary will show you they are not.
Your statement would only be correct if you specified the invisible supernatural ones as mythical.
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12/3/2015 11:02:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 6:17:47 AM, Toad-Uoff wrote:
At 12/3/2015 5:57:19 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?
A god by definition is the idea of a metaphysical agency, typically held to be a paragon of some virtue or principle -- hence holy, sacred and typically held to have some insight into the world superior to human insight -- worshiped, revered and/or propitiated by humans, and held to interact with them. [https://en.wikipedia.org...]

A myth by definition is a traditional story explaining a cultural view or perspective on the world. [http://www.merriam-webster.com...]

All gods by definition are mythical, since they are characters in traditional stories whose very existence captures a world perspective.

Whether they are invisible or supernatural is irrelevant, as is whether exists some metaphysical agency matching the myth.

You made a mistake. The definition of MYTH is:

"A traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events."

The use of the werds "supernatural beings" do not necessarily mean Gods. Unicorns, Leprechauns, and Fairies, all qualify as "supernatural beings" but they are not considered Gods.

Also, the OP messed-up and added way too much to the list, clearly signifying that they do not believe in NeverNeverLand because it's obvious they are biased against said Creatures, sourced from using the "invisible" werd in their description. ;)

Biased? In what way ? Toward the fact that they are invisible and supernatural in the sense of having powers which no natural creature has in reality ? The words invisible and supernatural are simply adjectives which help you to separate the invisible supernatural creatures from the visible natural ones in your own mind.
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12/3/2015 11:25:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 6:19:13 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

If invisible, how does one know gods exists? If supernatural, how does one know the supernatural exists? If they exist and people somehow know they exist, then either we have the power to observe the invisible (a contradiction) and we know the supernatural exists (another contradiction). They can't be anything other than myths.

If invisible, how does one know air or atoms exist?
Regarding the supernatural ( relating to, or seeming to come from magic, a god, etc.), people know these things exist by observing "strange phenomenon" and not being able to explain them due to being unfamiliar with them. Therefore people file them into the "magic" or "supernatural" or "unexplained" basket but that does not mean those things which APPEAR to be magic or supernatural cannot be explained.
We do have the power to observe the invisible in the sense of observing their effects or forces. The wind is invisible. Atoms are invisible. Air is invisible. Love is invisible. Energy is invisible. Do you observe any of those things or just observe their effects?

If you define supernatural as things relating to or seeming to come from magic. Do those things exist? I say yes they do. I would call them illusions which can be created by humans and also by nature.
If you define supernatural as "unable to be explained by science or the laws of nature". Are there any concepts or existing phenomenon which science is unable to explain?
How does science explain human conscience or self awareness or unique personalities or life itself?
There are many things science cannot explain yet and there might always be unexplainable phenomenon which simply cannot be explained due to being a never ending paradox which simply needs to be accepted as a paradox.
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12/3/2015 11:35:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 6:50:00 AM, RuvDraba wrote:

Also, the OP messed-up and added way too much to the list, clearly signifying that they do not believe in NeverNeverLand because it's obvious they are biased against said Creatures, sourced from using the "invisible" werd in their description. ;)

It's probably a straw-man position. Judging from other posts, Skyangel favours transcendental beliefs that are simultaneously syncretic yet utterly dismissive of any other account. She seldom asks a question without eventually offering a lecture on what the 'right' answer should be, delivered in a tone of contempt for anyone who doesn't agree.

So answering this question at all may be construed as an invitation to be lectured later, whether that invitation was intended or not. :)

It all depends on your personal perspective and interpretation of my words Ruv.
Some students attend lectures to learn from the teachers and some avoid lectures due to feeling somehow inferior to the teacher or put down by them.

How you react to what I write is your choice and has nothing to do with my words or how I present them.
Feel free to avoid any lectures you don't wish to participate in or feel free to question me as much as you wish.

Teachers can learn from students and vice versa. All of us can learn from experience.
Life and experience are very good teachers and they do not always make us feel good about ourselves.
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12/3/2015 11:40:44 PM
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At 12/3/2015 8:26:00 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

No evidence to suggest they are true/real?
No evidence to suggest they are false/imaginary?
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12/3/2015 11:46:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 8:56:49 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

and its not a myth when u say the universe came from "nothing" (such stupidity) or its infinite (which it has no beginning more stupidity).

Who is claiming the universe came from nothing ?

If you think claiming that something is infinite and has always existed is stupidity, please explain where your God or Allah came from.
Check Mate.

If anything at all can be eternal and have always exited, why can't that be the energy of the universe itself?

we come to the conclusion there is a God on logical based evidences not because my holy book says so. got it?

Your evidence of God ( the invisible supernatural one that has always existed, came from nothing and has no beginning ) is......?
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12/3/2015 11:50:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 12:32:53 PM, olivetwo wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

True, because they all invented by human mind. Just like thinking " there is no gods "

Humans are the natural gods who created supernatural gods in their own image and worship their own creations.
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12/4/2015 3:20:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 10:37:10 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/3/2015 5:11:07 AM, Toad-Uoff wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

There are lots of problems with your question because there are WAY too many variables, to the point you argue yourself into a corner.

What do you mean by Invisible?

What do you mean by Supernatural?

What do you mean by God?

What do you mean by Mythical?

What about the Gods that are here playing the game with the kids? Are they Mythical? They could qualify as Invisible, since most don't know they are here, but that makes them anonymous, not invisible.

Etc ...

I'd recommend rewerd'n your Q. ;)

Ribbit :)

I recommend you consult a dictionary if you lack understanding of the meaning of the words you are enquiring about.

No! Tis you that needs to consult MATH, since Math rules the Roost over any Dictionary, Girlfriend!

You placed the werd INVISIBLE first, ghosting out everything that followed, which denotes a psychological condition known as DENIAL.

You asked a question, in a SPECIFIC WAY, and in a SPECIFIC ORDER, that can ONLY be answered "True!" as asked, thus, the question is designed to get the answer YOU WANT, it is not designed to get to the TRUTH, it is designed to get the answer you want and that's a psychological condition known as Self-Reassurance, which stems directly out of Denial, so it's easy to see you tainted the situation with a question that only had one answer and only one answer, and all because you stuck the werd INVISIBLE at the beginning of the list.

You are not a Redheaded Karma Vampire, you're a Disgruntled Brunette instead, that calls whatever you disagree with, an Invisible Illusion, all the while calling yourself an Angel. That's what's known as self-annihilation, or shooting yourself in the foot, which denotes a person prone to self-punishment, and those types will pick fights to bolster their illusionary beliefs, just as you did, but then when they end-up getting their crap thrown back in their face, they will go into further Denial and since Denial was Source to begin with, Denial is ruling the Roost, so trying to get through that Denial Barrier is harder than trying to get a Piece of Tail from you.

You have clearly been hurt by something that has made you bitter because if you take away the werd Invisible from your question, the answer changes from "True!" - to - "False!"

Whatever it was that caused you to become so bitter, it happened for a reason, it's known as Synchronicity, which happens to be Scientific, since you are so "Hip!" on wanting the argument to stick to SCIENCE, then there is MATH, which NO ONE can ARGUE WITH, but you will argue with anything, if the answer violates your biased opinion, that's been formed from closed system duality perception emotional hurt/pain.

"Logic is kNot Perceptual, thus, Perception is kNot Logical." - Old Toad Proverb

Let the hurt GO!

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Reminisce-Anamnesis Riddle (Riddle of RA)

Man as Sine
Mas as Nine
Reminisce
Anamnesis
Cries Mine

(each line of the riddle is only comprised of one of 2-werds, Reminisce or Anamnesis, or an anagram of either werd and each line has multi-versal meanings/answers)

Get over IT!

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The Easter Bunny is just as Real as your Ignorance.

Angels are Real too!

Ribbit :)

Ps: Your invisible Supernatural Gods are ALL here playing the game with you, playing the mythical characters known as HUMANS. Maybe you are oNe of them and that's why you're so pee'd?
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12/4/2015 3:25:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 7:29:54 PM, janesix wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

True. I don't believe anything can be supernatural. If there is a creative force, it isnatural and must follow the laws of physics.

Your viewpoint is biased, in that you are basing your opinion on Closed System Physics, and you kNow-kNot Open System Physics:

http://www.debate.org...

Read that and edumacate yourself on Open Systems. ;)

Ribbit :)
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12/4/2015 3:37:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 10:51:16 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/3/2015 5:57:19 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?
A god by definition is the idea of a metaphysical agency, typically held to be a paragon of some virtue or principle -- hence holy, sacred and typically held to have some insight into the world superior to human insight -- worshiped, revered and/or propitiated by humans, and held to interact with them. [https://en.wikipedia.org...]

A myth by definition is a traditional story explaining a cultural view or perspective on the world. [http://www.merriam-webster.com...]

All gods by definition are mythical, since they are characters in traditional stories whose very existence captures a world perspective.

No all gods are not mythical. Only the ones you define according to your above definition.
That is why I specified invisible supernatural ones. There are also visible natural gods defined as humans in the dictionary. examples are the gods of music, the gods of art, the gods of sports, etc which other humans also idolize and raise up on pedestals as examples to follow.

Whether they are invisible or supernatural is irrelevant, as is whether exists some metaphysical agency matching the myth.

Not at all. An invisible and supernatural god is different to a visible natural god.
Check the dictionary.
It gives definitions of both types.
http://www.merriam-webster.com...

Since there are invisible gods and also visible gods, it is incorrect to claim "All gods by definition are mythical" Checking the above definition in the dictionary will show you they are not.
Your statement would only be correct if you specified the invisible supernatural ones as mythical.

I see you have designated Humans as Natural Gods, when that is not correct. Humans are Unnatural Creatures, given the 50-50 Equilibrium of this Artificially Closed System Planet, so you are not God, as a Human, but all of us once were Godheads, before We started this Game called Death. But you don't know about that but if you really wanted to know the truth, it's staring you in the face everywhere, especially in a MIRROR.

"The Law of One rules the roost of a Closed System, creating the inevitable, OnEism, also known as Can't/Death/Hell; whereas the Law of Zer0 rules the roost of an Open System, creating the evernevernevermore, Zer0ism, also known as Can/Eternal Life/Heaven. - Old Toad Proverb

Escape the Law of One! It has its H00K's in eWe!

https://www.youtube.com...

Remember! Remember! Remember!

Ribbit :)
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12/4/2015 3:49:28 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 11:02:16 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/3/2015 6:17:47 AM, Toad-Uoff wrote:
At 12/3/2015 5:57:19 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?
A god by definition is the idea of a metaphysical agency, typically held to be a paragon of some virtue or principle -- hence holy, sacred and typically held to have some insight into the world superior to human insight -- worshiped, revered and/or propitiated by humans, and held to interact with them. [https://en.wikipedia.org...]

A myth by definition is a traditional story explaining a cultural view or perspective on the world. [http://www.merriam-webster.com...]

All gods by definition are mythical, since they are characters in traditional stories whose very existence captures a world perspective.

Whether they are invisible or supernatural is irrelevant, as is whether exists some metaphysical agency matching the myth.

You made a mistake. The definition of MYTH is:

"A traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events."

The use of the werds "supernatural beings" do not necessarily mean Gods. Unicorns, Leprechauns, and Fairies, all qualify as "supernatural beings" but they are not considered Gods.

Also, the OP messed-up and added way too much to the list, clearly signifying that they do not believe in NeverNeverLand because it's obvious they are biased against said Creatures, sourced from using the "invisible" werd in their description. ;)

Biased? In what way ? Toward the fact that they are invisible and supernatural in the sense of having powers which no natural creature has in reality ? The words invisible and supernatural are simply adjectives which help you to separate the invisible supernatural creatures from the visible natural ones in your own mind.

What you are kNot aware of is the difference between a Human and a God, which is simply your HEAD. Humans store data in their heads in a Static kind of way, that creates Entropy, followed by Death, whereas a Godhead stores data in their head in a Dynamic kind of way, that creates Synchropy, which is the NATURAL AFFECT that occurs, and that is then followed by Eternal Life (aka: immortality), instead of Death.

Read my 9 Deadly Sins thread to understand what Synchropy is and what Synchropy is when it Manifests itself into Reality (aka: Synchronicity).

It's obvious you are reading into all of this (aka: interpreting) without your Dick Tracy Decoder Ring. ;)

"Everything's a Lie." - Louis Carroll (primary source: Hunting of the Snark)

Ribbit :)
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12/4/2015 4:00:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 11:25:39 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/3/2015 6:19:13 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

If invisible, how does one know gods exists? If supernatural, how does one know the supernatural exists? If they exist and people somehow know they exist, then either we have the power to observe the invisible (a contradiction) and we know the supernatural exists (another contradiction). They can't be anything other than myths.

If invisible, how does one know air or atoms exist?

There's another PERFECT example of BAD MATH, BAD SCIENCE.

Air and/or Atoms are kNot invisible, they are UNSEEABLE by the NAKED EYE, NAKED MIND.

You are obviously BIASED and also obviously in DENIAL as well.

eWe kNeeD 2 wake-up, Girlfriend! ;)

"A Cauliflower is nothing but a cabbage with a college education." - Mark Twain

Ribbit :)
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12/4/2015 4:16:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 11:35:52 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/3/2015 6:50:00 AM, RuvDraba wrote:

Also, the OP messed-up and added way too much to the list, clearly signifying that they do not believe in NeverNeverLand because it's obvious they are biased against said Creatures, sourced from using the "invisible" werd in their description. ;)

It's probably a straw-man position. Judging from other posts, Skyangel favours transcendental beliefs that are simultaneously syncretic yet utterly dismissive of any other account. She seldom asks a question without eventually offering a lecture on what the 'right' answer should be, delivered in a tone of contempt for anyone who doesn't agree.

So answering this question at all may be construed as an invitation to be lectured later, whether that invitation was intended or not. :)

It all depends on your personal perspective and interpretation of my words Ruv.
Some students attend lectures to learn from the teachers and some avoid lectures due to feeling somehow inferior to the teacher or put down by them.

How you react to what I write is your choice and has nothing to do with my words or how I present them.
Feel free to avoid any lectures you don't wish to participate in or feel free to question me as much as you wish.

Teachers can learn from students and vice versa. All of us can learn from experience.
Life and experience are very good teachers and they do not always make us feel good about ourselves.

There's the PROBLEM.

You are BLAMING yourself and OTHERS for something you and they could not control but you think they can, as well as you think you can/could, but your opinion is Psychedelicly pHuck'D with what's known as JUDGMENTAL, which is SourCed DIRECTLY from Closed System Duality Perception, which is EVIL.

Just look at the stupidity factor of Zeno's Paradox's, and their Closed System Duality Perception NATURE but all it takes to Open them is adding a 3rd Piece, then they become a Trinality Open System Paradox, like the 2 Runners Paradox. The paradox asks what does the 2 Runner see, which creates a Closed System, but toss in the OUTSIDE and ask what does the Audience see, then the answers are Relative to the Viewer's position and distance from SourCe Runners, and no two Viewers in the Audience will see the same thing.

"Everything is Relative to SourCe and SourCe is Relative to Everything." - Old Toad Proverb (aka: Open System Law of Relativity)

Ribbit :)
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12/4/2015 4:22:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/4/2015 3:20:12 AM, Toad-Uoff wrote:
At 12/3/2015 10:37:10 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/3/2015 5:11:07 AM, Toad-Uoff wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

There are lots of problems with your question because there are WAY too many variables, to the point you argue yourself into a corner.

What do you mean by Invisible?

What do you mean by Supernatural?

What do you mean by God?

What do you mean by Mythical?

What about the Gods that are here playing the game with the kids? Are they Mythical? They could qualify as Invisible, since most don't know they are here, but that makes them anonymous, not invisible.

Etc ...

I'd recommend rewerd'n your Q. ;)

Ribbit :)

I recommend you consult a dictionary if you lack understanding of the meaning of the words you are enquiring about.

No! Tis you that needs to consult MATH, since Math rules the Roost over any Dictionary, Girlfriend!

Thank you for your opinion. It amuses me.

You placed the werd INVISIBLE first, ghosting out everything that followed, which denotes a psychological condition known as DENIAL.

Your denial or mine? I am not one "ghosting out" everything that follows the word invisible.

You asked a question, in a SPECIFIC WAY, and in a SPECIFIC ORDER, that can ONLY be answered "True!"

That is incorrect since most believers in God believe their God is invisible and supernatural but not mythical so they would need to answer FALSE to the question and explain why their particular invisible supernatural god is not as mythical as the rest.

as asked, thus, the question is designed to get the answer YOU WANT, it is not designed to get to the TRUTH, it is designed to get the answer you want and that's a psychological condition known as Self-Reassurance, which stems directly out of Denial, so it's easy to see you tainted the situation with a question that only had one answer and only one answer, and all because you stuck the werd INVISIBLE at the beginning of the list.

Can't you see how believers in God would need to answer FALSE to the question?
Therefore it is not designed to get TRUE as the only answer.
God is one of many invisible supernatural gods and not all people believe all gods are mythical so I am looking forward to their explanations as to why one God amongst many invisible supernatural god is not as mythical as the rest.

You are not a Redheaded Karma Vampire, you're a Disgruntled Brunette instead, that calls whatever you disagree with, an Invisible Illusion, all the while calling yourself an Angel. That's what's known as self-annihilation, or shooting yourself in the foot, which denotes a person prone to self-punishment, and those types will pick fights to bolster their illusionary beliefs, just as you did, but then when they end-up getting their crap thrown back in their face, they will go into further Denial and since Denial was Source to begin with, Denial is ruling the Roost, so trying to get through that Denial Barrier is harder than trying to get a Piece of Tail from you.

Are you suffering from projection ? It appears that way to me.

You have clearly been hurt by something that has made you bitter because if you take away the werd Invisible from your question, the answer changes from "True!" - to - "False!"

No it doesn't. It can still be answered true or false depending on whether people interpret all gods as supernatural characters or natural characters.

Whatever it was that caused you to become so bitter, it happened for a reason, it's known as Synchronicity, which happens to be Scientific, since you are so "Hip!" on wanting the argument to stick to SCIENCE, then there is MATH, which NO ONE can ARGUE WITH, but you will argue with anything, if the answer violates your biased opinion, that's been formed from closed system duality perception emotional hurt/pain.

I see you projecting your own pain onto me again.

"Logic is kNot Perceptual, thus, Perception is kNot Logical." - Old Toad Proverb

Let the hurt GO!

Take your own advice.

The Easter Bunny is just as Real as your Ignorance.

In that case my ignorance is a figment of your imagination.

Angels are Real too!

Yes I am one of them.

Ps: Your invisible Supernatural Gods are ALL here playing the game with you, playing the mythical characters known as HUMANS. Maybe you are oNe of them and that's why you're so pee'd?

You might be currently invisible to me but you are not invisible to others and you are not supernatural and also not very smart.
I am not the one who is "pee'd" That appears to be your problem and attitude which you continue to try to project onto me.
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12/4/2015 4:48:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/4/2015 3:37:23 AM, Toad-Uoff wrote:
At 12/3/2015 10:51:16 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/3/2015 5:57:19 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?
A god by definition is the idea of a metaphysical agency, typically held to be a paragon of some virtue or principle -- hence holy, sacred and typically held to have some insight into the world superior to human insight -- worshiped, revered and/or propitiated by humans, and held to interact with them. [https://en.wikipedia.org...]

A myth by definition is a traditional story explaining a cultural view or perspective on the world. [http://www.merriam-webster.com...]

All gods by definition are mythical, since they are characters in traditional stories whose very existence captures a world perspective.

No all gods are not mythical. Only the ones you define according to your above definition.
That is why I specified invisible supernatural ones. There are also visible natural gods defined as humans in the dictionary. examples are the gods of music, the gods of art, the gods of sports, etc which other humans also idolize and raise up on pedestals as examples to follow.

Whether they are invisible or supernatural is irrelevant, as is whether exists some metaphysical agency matching the myth.

Not at all. An invisible and supernatural god is different to a visible natural god.
Check the dictionary.
It gives definitions of both types.
http://www.merriam-webster.com...

Since there are invisible gods and also visible gods, it is incorrect to claim "All gods by definition are mythical" Checking the above definition in the dictionary will show you they are not.
Your statement would only be correct if you specified the invisible supernatural ones as mythical.

I see you have designated Humans as Natural Gods, when that is not correct. Humans are Unnatural Creatures, given the 50-50 Equilibrium of this Artificially Closed System Planet, so you are not God, as a Human, but all of us once were Godheads, before We started this Game called Death. But you don't know about that but if you really wanted to know the truth, it's staring you in the face everywhere, especially in a MIRROR.

You might see yourself as unnatural but I will presume most other people would claim they are natural creatures as opposed to supernatural creatures.
I see myself as perfectly natural and normal although far more intelligent than many.

I agree the truth stares at everyone when they look in the mirror.
I am your mirror. The bias you see in my words is a reflection of your own bias.

"The Law of One rules the roost of a Closed System, creating the inevitable, OnEism, also known as Can't/Death/Hell; whereas the Law of Zer0 rules the roost of an Open System, creating the evernevernevermore, Zer0ism, also known as Can/Eternal Life/Heaven. - Old Toad Proverb

Is this what you are talking about ......
http://www.lawofone.info... ?

Do you believe in Ra? https://en.wikipedia.org...
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12/4/2015 4:58:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/3/2015 11:46:10 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/3/2015 8:56:49 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 12/3/2015 2:22:29 AM, Skyangel wrote:
Is it true or false that all invisible supernatural gods are mythical characters ?

Please explain why you believe it is true or false.

and its not a myth when u say the universe came from "nothing" (such stupidity) or its infinite (which it has no beginning more stupidity).

Who is claiming the universe came from nothing ?

scientists?


If you think claiming that something is infinite and has always existed is stupidity, please explain where your God or Allah came from.
Check Mate.

God has no time no space its not material to begin with like ours. we come to this by the logic that every motion/everything for that matter has its beginning so it must be created by something infinite. something uncreated, timeless and spacelss because these are dependent. so with these qualities we say that is God. now check every religion with that definition and throw what is not fitting it and in the end u will come to Islam.
Check Mate.


If anything at all can be eternal and have always exited, why can't that be the energy of the universe itself?

and energy existed with no space and time? whats it? nothing?


we come to the conclusion there is a God on logical based evidences not because my holy book says so. got it?

Your evidence of God ( the invisible supernatural one that has always existed, came from nothing and has no beginning ) is......?

logic not believing in myths like the universe came from "nothing" by itself with the laws of of physics and here it created a man with a brain to think and calculate math... now thats sci fiction.
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12/4/2015 4:59:58 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/4/2015 3:49:28 AM, Toad-Uoff wrote:
At 12/3/2015 11:02:16 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/3/2015 6:17:47 AM, Toad-Uoff wrote:

The use of the werds "supernatural beings" do not necessarily mean Gods. Unicorns, Leprechauns, and Fairies, all qualify as "supernatural beings" but they are not considered Gods.

Also, the OP messed-up and added way too much to the list, clearly signifying that they do not believe in NeverNeverLand because it's obvious they are biased against said Creatures, sourced from using the "invisible" werd in their description. ;)

Biased? In what way ? Toward the fact that they are invisible and supernatural in the sense of having powers which no natural creature has in reality ? The words invisible and supernatural are simply adjectives which help you to separate the invisible supernatural creatures from the visible natural ones in your own mind.

What you are kNot aware of is the difference between a Human and a God, which is simply your HEAD. Humans store data in their heads in a Static kind of way, that creates Entropy, followed by Death, whereas a Godhead stores data in their head in a Dynamic kind of way, that creates Synchropy, which is the NATURAL AFFECT that occurs, and that is then followed by Eternal Life (aka: immortality), instead of Death.

Thank you for sharing your very creative opinion.
Do you have any evidence regarding how a Godhead stores data in their head?
Do you even have any evidence that a Godhead has a head at all ?
If not, what makes you believe what you wrote above?

Read my 9 Deadly Sins thread to understand what Synchropy is and what Synchropy is when it Manifests itself into Reality (aka: Synchronicity).

It's obvious you are reading into all of this (aka: interpreting) without your Dick Tracy Decoder Ring. ;)

Projecting again ?

"Everything's a Lie." - Louis Carroll (primary source: Hunting of the Snark)

If you believe that quote, "Everything" would include everything you just wrote as well as the statement "Everything's a lie".

Do you believe it or are you confused by the paradox?