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12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.
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12/6/2015 10:35:02 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

None of that is scientific, but thanks anyway.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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12/6/2015 11:58:20 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

does the sun set in a muddy pool...??
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12/6/2015 2:29:28 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 11:58:20 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

does the sun set in a muddy pool...??

"In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. ...

The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. "

Your holy book is just as silly.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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12/6/2015 3:22:20 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 2:29:28 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 11:58:20 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

does the sun set in a muddy pool...??

"In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. ...

The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. "

Your holy book is just as silly.

King James Bible
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
Harikrish
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12/6/2015 3:46:47 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

Too bad the prophet was an illiterate Arab. If only Mohammad was educated and could read the Quran he would have encourage science learning instead of child marriages.
He might have also learnt that having forceful sex with 6 year old Aisha could damage her reproductive organs which is why she could never conceive even after she became an adult.
With 800 million illiterate Muslims out of 1.4 billion. All the science in the Quaran is lost to most Muslims. And the few verses you highlighted wouldn't pass a grade 4 science test. Why do Muslim women cover their faces, so they don't frighten the camels? But why do they do it in countries where there are no camels. Because it makes their Muslim men nostalgic for camels.
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12/6/2015 5:34:20 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 3:22:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 2:29:28 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 11:58:20 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

does the sun set in a muddy pool...??

"In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. ...

The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. "

Your holy book is just as silly.

King James Bible
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

Yes, thank you for providing more biblical silliness.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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12/6/2015 8:20:03 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 5:34:20 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 3:22:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 2:29:28 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 11:58:20 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

does the sun set in a muddy pool...??

"In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. ...

The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. "

Your holy book is just as silly.

King James Bible
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

Yes, thank you for providing more biblical silliness.

really I think it is pretty inspired when you consider some faiths said the earth was on the shoulders of a strong man, others said it traveled on an elephant or on the back of a turtle...
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12/6/2015 8:30:45 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 2:29:28 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 11:58:20 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

does the sun set in a muddy pool...??

"In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. ...

The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. "

Your holy book is just as silly.
Is it silly for the weather man to say the sun rose today at 6 PM?
Scripture, facts, stats, and logic is how I argue

Evolutionism is a religion, not science

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

"If guns are the cause of crimes then aren't matches the cause of arson?" D. Boys

"If the death penalty is government sanctioned killing then isn't inprisonment is government sanction kidnapping?" D. B

"Why do you trust the government with machine guns but not honest citizens?" D. B

All those who are pro-death (abortion) is already born
DanneJeRusse
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12/6/2015 10:30:39 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 8:20:03 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 5:34:20 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 3:22:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 2:29:28 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 11:58:20 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

does the sun set in a muddy pool...??

"In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. ...

The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. "

Your holy book is just as silly.

King James Bible
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

Yes, thank you for providing more biblical silliness.

really I think it is pretty inspired when you consider some faiths said the earth was on the shoulders of a strong man, others said it traveled on an elephant or on the back of a turtle...

The myths and superstitions you embrace are no more or less silly than any other myths and superstitions. You need not worry that yours holds a monopoly on silliness.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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12/6/2015 10:44:25 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 10:30:39 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 8:20:03 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 5:34:20 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 3:22:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 2:29:28 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 11:58:20 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

does the sun set in a muddy pool...??

"In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. ...

The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. "

Your holy book is just as silly.

King James Bible
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

Yes, thank you for providing more biblical silliness.

really I think it is pretty inspired when you consider some faiths said the earth was on the shoulders of a strong man, others said it traveled on an elephant or on the back of a turtle...

The myths and superstitions you embrace are no more or less silly than any other myths and superstitions. You need not worry that yours holds a monopoly on silliness.
So you completely ignore his rebuttal. That's real smart.
Scripture, facts, stats, and logic is how I argue

Evolutionism is a religion, not science

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

"If guns are the cause of crimes then aren't matches the cause of arson?" D. Boys

"If the death penalty is government sanctioned killing then isn't inprisonment is government sanction kidnapping?" D. B

"Why do you trust the government with machine guns but not honest citizens?" D. B

All those who are pro-death (abortion) is already born
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12/6/2015 10:49:05 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 8:20:03 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 5:34:20 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 3:22:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 2:29:28 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 11:58:20 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

does the sun set in a muddy pool...??

"In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. ...

The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. "

Your holy book is just as silly.

King James Bible
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

Yes, thank you for providing more biblical silliness.

really I think it is pretty inspired when you consider some faiths said the earth was on the shoulders of a strong man, others said it traveled on an elephant or on the back of a turtle...

Arguing that your faith is slightly more accurate than someone saying the earth sits upon a turtle is not really the most compelling defense.
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12/6/2015 11:59:42 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 10:30:39 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 8:20:03 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 5:34:20 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 3:22:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 2:29:28 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 11:58:20 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

does the sun set in a muddy pool...??

"In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. ...

The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. "

Your holy book is just as silly.

King James Bible
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

Yes, thank you for providing more biblical silliness.

really I think it is pretty inspired when you consider some faiths said the earth was on the shoulders of a strong man, others said it traveled on an elephant or on the back of a turtle...

The myths and superstitions you embrace are no more or less silly than any other myths and superstitions. You need not worry that yours holds a monopoly on silliness.

yet all that time ago the bible got it right...not bad...
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12/8/2015 10:17:23 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 3:46:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

Too bad the prophet was an illiterate Arab. If only Mohammad was educated and could read the Quran he would have encourage science learning instead of child marriages.
He might have also learnt that having forceful sex with 6 year old Aisha could damage her reproductive organs which is why she could never conceive even after she became an adult.
With 800 million illiterate Muslims out of 1.4 billion. All the science in the Quaran is lost to most Muslims. And the few verses you highlighted wouldn't pass a grade 4 science test. Why do Muslim women cover their faces, so they don't frighten the camels? But why do they do it in countries where there are no camels. Because it makes their Muslim men nostalgic for camels.

Dear Mr/Mrs,

You have been misinformed, as all others who are exposed to anti-islamic propaganda.
In Qur'an, it is clear that there is a marrying era for people, so not a person marry a child; so it is a big lie that Mohammed marry Aishe when she was at 6. This is contrary to Qur'an.

And why do women have head-scarf? I think,they consider they obey and apply the covering order in Qur'an; some believes that this order is current (valid) today and some doesn't believe.This must be considered as freedom of thought, no condemn.

I aggree to you that muslims are harder to deal with science and philisophy;
my comment of Qur'an is that.
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12/8/2015 10:24:48 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 11:58:20 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

does the sun set in a muddy pool...??

I guess, this is a term in the 17. surah; I believe it is an allegoric narration.
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12/8/2015 3:25:56 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/8/2015 10:17:23 AM, frbnsn wrote:
At 12/6/2015 3:46:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

Too bad the prophet was an illiterate Arab. If only Mohammad was educated and could read the Quran he would have encourage science learning instead of child marriages.
He might have also learnt that having forceful sex with 6 year old Aisha could damage her reproductive organs which is why she could never conceive even after she became an adult.
With 800 million illiterate Muslims out of 1.4 billion. All the science in the Quaran is lost to most Muslims. And the few verses you highlighted wouldn't pass a grade 4 science test. Why do Muslim women cover their faces, so they don't frighten the camels? But why do they do it in countries where there are no camels. Because it makes their Muslim men nostalgic for camels.

Dear Mr/Mrs,

You have been misinformed, as all others who are exposed to anti-islamic propaganda.
In Qur'an, it is clear that there is a marrying era for people, so not a person marry a child; so it is a big lie that Mohammed marry Aishe when she was at 6. This is contrary to Qur'an.


Here is a parade of child brides.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...

And why do women have head-scarf? I think,they consider they obey and apply the covering order in Qur'an; some believes that this order is current (valid) today and some doesn't believe.This must be considered as freedom of thought, no condemn.

I aggree to you that muslims are harder to deal with science and philisophy;
my comment of Qur'an is that.
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12/9/2015 10:28:41 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/8/2015 3:25:56 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/8/2015 10:17:23 AM, frbnsn wrote:
At 12/6/2015 3:46:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

Too bad the prophet was an illiterate Arab. If only Mohammad was educated and could read the Quran he would have encourage science learning instead of child marriages.
He might have also learnt that having forceful sex with 6 year old Aisha could damage her reproductive organs which is why she could never conceive even after she became an adult.
With 800 million illiterate Muslims out of 1.4 billion. All the science in the Quaran is lost to most Muslims. And the few verses you highlighted wouldn't pass a grade 4 science test. Why do Muslim women cover their faces, so they don't frighten the camels? But why do they do it in countries where there are no camels. Because it makes their Muslim men nostalgic for camels.

Dear Mr/Mrs,

You have been misinformed, as all others who are exposed to anti-islamic propaganda.
In Qur'an, it is clear that there is a marrying era for people, so not a person marry a child; so it is a big lie that Mohammed marry Aishe when she was at 6. This is contrary to Qur'an.


Here is a parade of child brides.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...

And why do women have head-scarf? I think,they consider they obey and apply the covering order in Qur'an; some believes that this order is current (valid) today and some doesn't believe.This must be considered as freedom of thought, no condemn.

I aggree to you that muslims are harder to deal with science and philisophy;
my comment of Qur'an is that.

Oh. Always the same!
I say 'it is misinformation about Mohammed The Messenger, a propaganda', you sent me an unrelated photo.
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12/9/2015 12:59:35 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/9/2015 10:28:41 AM, frbnsn wrote:
At 12/8/2015 3:25:56 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/8/2015 10:17:23 AM, frbnsn wrote:
At 12/6/2015 3:46:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

Too bad the prophet was an illiterate Arab. If only Mohammad was educated and could read the Quran he would have encourage science learning instead of child marriages.
He might have also learnt that having forceful sex with 6 year old Aisha could damage her reproductive organs which is why she could never conceive even after she became an adult.
With 800 million illiterate Muslims out of 1.4 billion. All the science in the Quaran is lost to most Muslims. And the few verses you highlighted wouldn't pass a grade 4 science test. Why do Muslim women cover their faces, so they don't frighten the camels? But why do they do it in countries where there are no camels. Because it makes their Muslim men nostalgic for camels.

Dear Mr/Mrs,

You have been misinformed, as all others who are exposed to anti-islamic propaganda.
In Qur'an, it is clear that there is a marrying era for people, so not a person marry a child; so it is a big lie that Mohammed marry Aishe when she was at 6. This is contrary to Qur'an.


Here is a parade of child brides.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...

And why do women have head-scarf? I think,they consider they obey and apply the covering order in Qur'an; some believes that this order is current (valid) today and some doesn't believe.This must be considered as freedom of thought, no condemn.

I aggree to you that muslims are harder to deal with science and philisophy;
my comment of Qur'an is that.

Oh. Always the same!
I say 'it is misinformation about Mohammed The Messenger, a propaganda', you sent me an unrelated photo.

Muslim child brides. It is a follow the prophet parade.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...
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12/9/2015 1:13:28 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/8/2015 10:24:48 AM, frbnsn wrote:
I guess, this is a term in the 17. surah; I believe it is an allegoric narration.
So it isn't true?
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12/10/2015 4:28:43 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

The Qur'an also speaks of what we now call gravity, being done by invisible pillars. Yea, that's not scientific. Cherry picking a few things that can be said to be similar to what we know now, such as "the big bang works with the creation story of nothing to something" does not mean it is scientific.
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12/10/2015 4:23:35 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/6/2015 11:58:20 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

does the sun set in a muddy pool...??
What do you mean?
Be exact in source and addressing and get your answer.
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12/10/2015 4:24:43 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/6/2015 10:35:02 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

None of that is scientific, but thanks anyway.
You have no idea what science is, but thanks anyway.
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12/10/2015 4:30:46 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/6/2015 8:20:03 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/6/2015 5:34:20 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/6/2015 3:22:20 PM, graceofgod wrote:
King James Bible
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

Yes, thank you for providing more biblical silliness.

really I think it is pretty inspired when you consider some faiths said the earth was on the shoulders of a strong man, others said it traveled on an elephant or on the back of a turtle...

Science has yet to falsify the turtle.

Do you really trust satellites, made by humans with fallible designs, observed by humans with fallible senses?

Can you really be sure what's happening on the far side of the planet that you're NOT looking at?

No-turtles is just a THEORY.

The reality is: it's turtles ALL THE WAY DOWN.
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12/10/2015 4:43:39 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

Yes. There are even more in Quran and Hadith.
Like different layers for Earth. Mountains are needed for Earth layers being fixed (like nails). Big bang theory. Different process for human being created in mother womb (This one made some doctors Muslims). and ... and...
This is also a scientific point from prophet's (pbuh) successor, Ali (a.s) [Of course from Shia point of view, Sunni Muslims claim that he was not the successor and no one betrayed him]:
Ali (a.s) said: "If people hadnt betrayed me I would have made them light out of water."
He also said prophet (pbuh) opened 1000 doors of science for me from each door one thousand other doors are open. Ask me what ever you want before you miss me.

Prophet (pbuh) said: I am the city of knowledge and Ali is its door.
He also said, when Mahdi (the one who will come just before Christ(pbuh ) to guide people of the world and make one government for all the world in glory) appears, he will open 26 doors of knowledge just by himslef and till that time, human being's science is just limited to only one door.
In another Hadith prophet (pbuh ) say : The ink of a scientist is much more valuable than the blood of the soldier who gives his life in the way of Allah.
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12/10/2015 4:49:12 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
Here's an scientific error in the Koran

http://www.chick.com...

He [i.e. Zul-qarnain] followed, until he reached the setting of the sun. He found it set in a spring of murky water.
(Surah XVIII ( Kahf) vs. 85-86)
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Evolutionism is a religion, not science

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

"If guns are the cause of crimes then aren't matches the cause of arson?" D. Boys

"If the death penalty is government sanctioned killing then isn't inprisonment is government sanction kidnapping?" D. B

"Why do you trust the government with machine guns but not honest citizens?" D. B

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12/10/2015 5:11:06 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/6/2015 3:46:47 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 12/6/2015 10:21:05 AM, frbnsn wrote:
In Qur'an, The universe has been created in six periods:
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods. (7/54)

In Qur'an, human has been originated from water:
...we made every living thing of water...(21/30)

In Qur'an, human has been created a single soul:
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.(4/1)

In Qur'an, universe has been expanding (Science has found out in 20th century):
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who has been expanding.(51/47)
...a.s.o.

Too bad the prophet was an illiterate Arab. If only Mohammad was educated and could read the Quran he would have encourage science learning instead of child marriages.
Allah had decided to chose an illiterate person to give Quran verses, so that ill people never say that Muhammad (pbuh) had written Quran by himslef. In fact it's a prove that Quran is not man made but from God.
He might have also learnt that having forceful sex with 6 year old Aisha could damage her reproductive organs which is why she could never conceive even after she became an adult.
I suggest you to study history books or close your mouth. I am well aware that your creepy information is just limited to a couple of bias webpages. Thus, I give a short explanation to prophet's(pbuh) marriages.

The first of Muhammad (pbuh) was with Khadijah (s.a). Khadijah was older than Muhammad (pbuh) and she had lost two husbands before Muhammad(pbuh). Khadijah indirectly asked Muhammad(pbuh) to marry her and he accepted. Muhammad(pbuh) was with Khadijah until he was 55 years old. When Khadijah passed away prophet had other marriages.

All the marriages of Muhammad(pbuh) was with old or support-less widows and the only marriage with a virgin girl was with Aisha.

Aisha was the daughter of Abubakr, the companion of Muhammad(pbuh). She was 9 years old and her father asked her marry a man however their marriage was canceled and then Muhammad(pbuh) married that girl.

With 800 million illiterate Muslims out of 1.4 billiosn.
As I said you need to study history books. Some centuries ago, Muslims were pioneer in science and people from Europe would come to Middle East just to learn from Muslim scientists. It was just cruel nations which invaded Muslim countries and made them such poor countries.
All the science in the Quaran is lost to most Muslims.
Dont be so sure.
And the few verses you highlighted wouldn't pass a grade 4 science test.
Oh really?! Are you working in IEC or IEEE standard institutes?!

Why do Muslim women cover their faces, so they don't frighten the camels? But why do they do it in countries where there are no camels. Because it makes their Muslim men nostalgic for camels.

Once again you show your ignorance. In Islam there is no need to cover their faces a woman doesnt need to cover her face. And it has nothing to do with camels.
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12/10/2015 5:35:21 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/10/2015 4:49:12 PM, Maccabee wrote:
Here's an scientific error in the Koran

http://www.chick.com...

He [i.e. Zul-qarnain] followed, until he reached the setting of the sun. He found it set in a spring of murky water.
(Surah XVIII ( Kahf) vs. 85-86)

I studied the brief explanation of Tafsir al-Mizan(Written by a Shia scholar) and I wanted to answer however I found this webpage with almost the same answer.

http://www.understanding-islam.com...
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12/10/2015 6:15:34 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
http://www.faithfreedom.org...

Here is a few contradictions in the Koran.
Scripture, facts, stats, and logic is how I argue

Evolutionism is a religion, not science

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

"If guns are the cause of crimes then aren't matches the cause of arson?" D. Boys

"If the death penalty is government sanctioned killing then isn't inprisonment is government sanction kidnapping?" D. B

"Why do you trust the government with machine guns but not honest citizens?" D. B

All those who are pro-death (abortion) is already born
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12/10/2015 7:10:04 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/10/2015 6:15:34 PM, Maccabee wrote:
http://www.faithfreedom.org...

Here is a few contradictions in the Koran.

Copy and paste them so that we can talk about them.
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12/11/2015 3:57:14 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/10/2015 7:10:04 PM, shalal12 wrote:
At 12/10/2015 6:15:34 PM, Maccabee wrote:
http://www.faithfreedom.org...

Here is a few contradictions in the Koran.

Copy and paste them so that we can talk about them.

From my link:

Numerical contradictions

There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. Can God make so much error in doing simple calculations?

How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth ?

Quran 7: 54 Your gurdian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran 10: 3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran 11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days

The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and Allah created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated-

Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

Quran 41: 10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS"

Quran 41: 12 So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and "

Now do the math: 2(for earth) + 4(for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days

Similar mistakes you can see in the verse: Quran 4: 11 - 12, and Quran 4: 176 in inheritance law. In these verses one can see the total property after adding all distributed parties adds up more than the available property, i.e., totals become more than 1 which are: 1.125 and 1.25. How come ? A gross mathematical errors, is not it ?

Allah"s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years?

Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your rekoning

Quran 70: 4 The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years.

So, which one is it? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years?

Creation of the Heaven and Earth

Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah at one time says that Earth was created first and another time he says that the Heaven was created first.

Quran 2: 29 It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)".

Quran 79: 27 - 30 Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth

Now, does it match modern science? Do you believe that, Earth was created first, after that, God created Heaven? Modern science tells us that? Or How come SEVEN firmaments (layers)? Modern science tells us that, actually there is no such thing Sky is no "roof" over us. It is only a space with no known boundary at all. These verses simply reinforce the ancient idea of ROOF over us which is called SKY, is it not so? How funny!

Sun-set and Sun-rise

Koran teaches us that the Sun sets in a muddy spring:

Quran 18: 86 Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring"

Quran 18: 90 Till, when he reached the rising-place of the Sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.

Serious scientific errors here! Firstly, it is scientifically accepted fact that, the Sun never go down in a muddy spring. Secondly, this seems to presuppose a FLAT Earth, otherwise how can there be an extreme point in the West or in the East? A sunrise there would be basically just the same as at any other place on this earth, at land or sea. It would still look as if it is setting "far away". It does say, that he reached THE PLACE where the Sun sets and in his second Journey the place where it rises.

A resting place for Sun!?

Quran 36: 38 And the sun runneth on unto a resting place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.
Quran 36: 39 And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shrivelled palm leaf.
Quran 36: 40 It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.

Allah is indeed a big scientist. Where is sun and where is moon situated? Can anybody tell me how they could collide/meet/overtake each other? Are the sun and the moon neighbors to each other? I have the answer for this error: Ancient Allah saw (bare eye observations) sun and moon traveling from east to west seemingly in the same Sky area or same path, without colliding, causing day and night etc. Allah hardly could imagine that all these phenomena are simply due to Earth"s rotation and NOT by Sun"s rotation. Sun is stationary for Earth, because earth is stuck in the sun"s Gravity, like we are stuck in earth"s gravity. Allah never says any where in the whole Quran that, EARTH ROTATES. Perhaps Allah could not feel earth"s rotation.

A resting place for sun WAS CONFIRMED BY HADITHS?

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421
Sahih Bukhari Hadiths: Abzur Ghifari (ra) narrated: one day Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) asked me, "Abzar do you know after setting where does Sun go?" I replied, I do not know, only Allah"s apostle can say better. Then Prophet (SA) replied, "After setting, the sun remains prostrated under Allah"s Aro"sh and waits for Allah"s command for rising again in the East. Day will come when sun will not get permission to rise again and Qeyamot will fall upon Earth".

Can anybody tell me what is it? It was the superstitious belief of ancient people reflected in the Quran and Hadiths by Allah. A 10-year-old boy would not tell such fairy tale story today.

Why Allah Created Stars!

Quran gives us further scientific knowledge by telling us that the stars were created by Allah as missiles to throw at the devils:

Quran 67: 5 And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky) with lamps, and We have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away Satans"

Quran 37: 6-8 We have indeed decorated the lower heaven (sky) with beauty (in) the stars, (for beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious Satans. So they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side.

Thus, the stars are nothing but missiles to throw at devils so that they may not eavesdrop on the heavenly council. Once again we find how Allah was high on his superstitious weirdness.

Is Sky/Heaven A ROOF or Canopy Over the Earth?

Quran 21: 32 And We have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents.

Quran 31: 10 He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed"

Quran 2: 22: Who has made the earth your couch, And the heavens (Sky) your canopy

Modern science tells us- whole thing around the earth is space and there is no boundary even if we go Billions of light years away in all directions. Questions are: When there is no sky above us then how in the world, it needs pillars for support? Do we really have a roof above us? Is there a canopy above the Earth? Is there anything called above or beneath us? Are mountains there to prevent Earth from shaking? Give me a break!

Once again Allah considered sky as roof over the Earth, which will broke/shattered during dooms day

Quran 78: 19 And the heavens (sky) Shall be broken (opened) as if there were doors opens"

Quran 82: 1 When the Sky is cleft asunder

Quran 69: 16 And the sky will be Rent asunder, for it will That day be flimsy (soft)
Scripture, facts, stats, and logic is how I argue

Evolutionism is a religion, not science

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

"If guns are the cause of crimes then aren't matches the cause of arson?" D. Boys

"If the death penalty is government sanctioned killing then isn't inprisonment is government sanction kidnapping?" D. B

"Why do you trust the government with machine guns but not honest citizens?" D. B

All those who are pro-death (abortion) is already born