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A Unique Commentary on Romans

newnature23
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12/7/2015 1:09:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I invite everyone to read a unique commentary on the book of Romans. R32;

Romans 3:21 BUT NOW, no longer does the human race have to strive to attain and maintain God"s acceptance on the basis of who they are and what they can do. Our decree of judicial perfection in the eyes of God comes not through Christ"s death for our sins, but through our union with Christ"s resurrection life. If a person believes Christ died for their sins, but does not believe that God"s justice was satisfied, when Christ died for those sins, that person has not believed Christ died for their sins. God purchased the human race out of sins dominion, never to be returned to the market place of sin again. R32;

By removing the sin issue from the table of God"s justice, God effectively canceled Satan"s ownership of all the human race. Satan can lay claim to no person based on that persons sinfulness. If we misunderstand justification, we are going to have a difficult time understanding the cornerstone that comes prior to sanctification. Since people link a justified standing before God with performance of their own, they also link a sanctified standing before God with their own performance. And as a result, they believe the degree to which they stand sanctified in God"s eyes depends entirely upon the degree to which they remain holy in behavior. R32;

If they do not see themselves as being holy in conduct, they do not believe that God sees them as being holy, either. We need to understand that forgiveness was all upfront and all-inclusive, but when we accept this idea of conditional forgiveness/forgiveness on the installment plan; a little forgiveness here, a little forgiveness there, the need for new forgiveness for new sin, that is the atonement program of Israel. The truth is, our deeds do not determine our destiny, our faith in Christ"s faithfulness determines our destiny. R32;

Today people think they have to ask God to forgive them for the sins that God is no longer charging to their account in the first place. Ministers of righteousness would have people believe God is not totally reconciled in his mind. Satan and his forces want to keep sin on the table of God"s justice today, as much in the Age of Grace as he has in the other ages. If Satan had known what Jesus Christ would actually accomplish where the sins of the world are concerned, Satan would not have had Christ crucified. R32;

http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.com...
God"s Reconciliation of Man, read more about it at http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.com...
dee-em
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12/7/2015 9:45:42 AM
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People behaved exactly the same, before and after the death of Jesus (if he even existed at all). Nothing changed. If it was a human sacrifice to God, it was completely pointless.

What kind of evil being demands a human sacrifice anyway? And is it truly a sacrifice if nothing is lost, since Jesus never really died?
newnature23
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12/7/2015 10:06:19 AM
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God purchased the human race out of sins dominion, never to be returned to the market place of sin again. R32;

By removing the sin issue from the table of God"s justice, God effectively canceled Satan"s ownership of all the human race. Satan can lay claim to no person based on that persons sinfulness. It is a son issue, not a sin issue.
God"s Reconciliation of Man, read more about it at http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.com...
annanicole
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12/7/2015 10:17:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/7/2015 10:06:19 AM, newnature23 wrote:
God purchased the human race out of sins dominion, never to be returned to the market place of sin again. R32;

By removing the sin issue from the table of God"s justice, God effectively canceled Satan"s ownership of all the human race. Satan can lay claim to no person based on that persons sinfulness. It is a son issue, not a sin issue.

That sounds like "Behave any way you want to - and still go to heaven."
Madcornishbiker: "No, I don't need a dictionary, I know how scripture uses words and that is all I need to now."
newnature23
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12/7/2015 10:21:16 AM
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There are pastors who understand God"s grace who are reluctant to preach grace, because grace will lead to a license to sin. Many of these same pastors in an effort to reduce sinning, they revert to preaching law, thinking that"s going to solve the problem. R32;

They want to scare the sin out of people, put their salvation on the line, dangle that up in front of them and scare them with a conditional salvation and that will straighten them up. So they stop preaching grace, as if not preaching grace is going stop people from sinning. R32;

The problem with law as the answer to people"s dilemma is that law is totally incapable of changing the human heart and that"s where the problem lies. What we do, or what we do not do, is not a test of anyone"s salvation today. What we believe is the only test for salvation today! R32;

Most people think salvation is the end result, salvation is the starting point. The issue of salvation is understanding the reconciliation where our sin is concerned, do we understand that God is reconciled where all sin is concerned for all time. R32;

The price was paid for all and through that payment, Jesus Christ redeemed the entire human race from the sin barrier that separated the world from God. The sin issue needs to be resolved in our minds, not in Gods.
God"s Reconciliation of Man, read more about it at http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.com...
annanicole
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12/7/2015 10:27:24 AM
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At 12/7/2015 10:21:16 AM, newnature23 wrote:
There are pastors who understand God"s grace who are reluctant to preach grace, because grace will lead to a license to sin. Many of these same pastors in an effort to reduce sinning, they revert to preaching law, thinking that"s going to solve the problem. R32;

Preach which law? The Law of Christ? What law are you under, by the way?
Madcornishbiker: "No, I don't need a dictionary, I know how scripture uses words and that is all I need to now."
newnature23
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12/7/2015 10:32:46 AM
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The flesh cannot be perfected, it cannot be changed, and it cannot be Christianized, so render it dead. The more we focus on perfecting the flesh, the more we will end up minding the things of the flesh, and Paul wants us to put the flesh behind us.

Today people think they have to ask God to forgive them for the sins that God is no longer charging to their account in the first place. Ministers of righteousness would have people believe God is not totally reconciled in his mind.
God"s Reconciliation of Man, read more about it at http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.com...
annanicole
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12/7/2015 10:34:31 AM
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At 12/7/2015 10:32:46 AM, newnature23 wrote:
The flesh cannot be perfected, it cannot be changed, and it cannot be Christianized, so render it dead. The more we focus on perfecting the flesh, the more we will end up minding the things of the flesh, and Paul wants us to put the flesh behind us.

Today people think they have to ask God to forgive them for the sins that God is no longer charging to their account in the first place. Ministers of righteousness would have people believe God is not totally reconciled in his mind.

You forgot to answer the question. Hop to it.

"Preach which law? The Law of Christ? What law are you under, by the way?"
Madcornishbiker: "No, I don't need a dictionary, I know how scripture uses words and that is all I need to now."
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12/7/2015 10:38:55 AM
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Justification is not a process, but is a one-time act, complete and definitive. God could only declare us to be right on the bases of who and what he is, not on the bases of who and what we would be apart from him.

God had to devise a way to see us that way, and the way he devised to do that was by joining us to, hiding us in our perfectly righteous savior, thus freely crediting to our account Christ righteousness. R32;

God is anxiously awaiting his own inheritance, which happens to be us, God considers believers to be his own inheritance, he purchased us with the blood of his son, we are God"s valuable inheritance. Grace!
God"s Reconciliation of Man, read more about it at http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.com...
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12/7/2015 10:46:05 AM
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At 12/7/2015 10:38:55 AM, newnature23 wrote:
Justification is not a process, but is a one-time act, complete and definitive. God could only declare us to be right on the bases of who and what he is, not on the bases of who and what we would be apart from him.

God had to devise a way to see us that way, and the way he devised to do that was by joining us to, hiding us in our perfectly righteous savior, thus freely crediting to our account Christ righteousness. R32;

God is anxiously awaiting his own inheritance, which happens to be us, God considers believers to be his own inheritance, he purchased us with the blood of his son, we are God"s valuable inheritance. Grace!

Never mind. Toleration of stupidity is not one of my strong points.
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newnature23
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12/7/2015 10:50:17 AM
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What an ingenious salvation plan, to take someone else that is righteous and join us to that person. Sin causes a debt to God so large that it can never be paid by ourselves, but the person who knows what Jesus Christ really accomplished, exist in a completely new relationship with God. Justification is a legal act, wherein God deems the sinner righteous on the basis of Christ"s righteousness. How many ways do you need me to explain the law of Christ? What does the law of Christ mean to you?
God"s Reconciliation of Man, read more about it at http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.com...
bulproof
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12/7/2015 1:06:45 PM
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At 12/7/2015 10:06:19 AM, newnature23 wrote:
God purchased the human race out of sins dominion, never to be returned to the market place of sin again. R32;
So this god is not anything like omnipotent if it requires a bloody human/divine sacrifice in order that it make that decision.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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12/7/2015 1:14:09 PM
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At 12/7/2015 1:09:23 AM, newnature23 wrote:
I invite everyone to read a unique commentary on the book of Romans. R32;

Romans 3:21 BUT NOW, no longer does the human race have to strive to attain and maintain God"s acceptance on the basis of who they are and what they can do. Our decree of judicial perfection in the eyes of God comes not through Christ"s death for our sins, but through our union with Christ"s resurrection life. If a person believes Christ died for their sins, but does not believe that God"s justice was satisfied, when Christ died for those sins, that person has not believed Christ died for their sins. God purchased the human race out of sins dominion, never to be returned to the market place of sin again. R32;

By removing the sin issue from the table of God"s justice, God effectively canceled Satan"s ownership of all the human race. Satan can lay claim to no person based on that persons sinfulness. If we misunderstand justification, we are going to have a difficult time understanding the cornerstone that comes prior to sanctification. Since people link a justified standing before God with performance of their own, they also link a sanctified standing before God with their own performance. And as a result, they believe the degree to which they stand sanctified in God"s eyes depends entirely upon the degree to which they remain holy in behavior. R32;

If they do not see themselves as being holy in conduct, they do not believe that God sees them as being holy, either. We need to understand that forgiveness was all upfront and all-inclusive, but when we accept this idea of conditional forgiveness/forgiveness on the installment plan; a little forgiveness here, a little forgiveness there, the need for new forgiveness for new sin, that is the atonement program of Israel. The truth is, our deeds do not determine our destiny, our faith in Christ"s faithfulness determines our destiny. R32;

Today people think they have to ask God to forgive them for the sins that God is no longer charging to their account in the first place. Ministers of righteousness would have people believe God is not totally reconciled in his mind. Satan and his forces want to keep sin on the table of God"s justice today, as much in the Age of Grace as he has in the other ages. If Satan had known what Jesus Christ would actually accomplish where the sins of the world are concerned, Satan would not have had Christ crucified. R32;

http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.com...

It's about understanding God's Grace as opposed to relying on the law, some who are saved are still striving to keep the law, all this does is allow the enemy to get at the believer when they fall short of the mark or fail all together..
As believers you should believe that the sacrifice of Jesus and his atoning blood is sufficient for your salvation...
You will still try your best to do the right thing but ultimate you are not relying on yourself or your own righteousness for salvation you are relying of the free gift of righteousness that you know have for believing on Jesus...
newnature23
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12/7/2015 1:18:38 PM
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Paul wants us to know how a person is saved. He wants us to understand the basis by which God provides eternal security, not only has provided the gift of salvation; but provides eternal security to all those who place their faith in what the sacrifice of his son accomplished. It is our faith in the accomplishment of Jesus Christ"s faithful sacrifice that is the means whereby God acknowledges that we have accepted the gift his son purchased.
God"s Reconciliation of Man, read more about it at http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.com...
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12/7/2015 1:22:30 PM
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At 12/7/2015 1:18:38 PM, newnature23 wrote:
Paul wants us to know how a person is saved. He wants us to understand the basis by which God provides eternal security, not only has provided the gift of salvation; but provides eternal security to all those who place their faith in what the sacrifice of his son accomplished. It is our faith in the accomplishment of Jesus Christ"s faithful sacrifice that is the means whereby God acknowledges that we have accepted the gift his son purchased.

Paul comes over as a total creep!
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12/7/2015 1:29:55 PM
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First in line, first in crime are apt descriptions for the Apostle of Grace. Paul was the chosen spokesman for God to relay the information for this entire dispensation of grace. God is not dealing with Israel nationally today, he is dealing with all alike in the Age of Grace. The apostle Paul dispensed a message that the 12 apostles had not dispensed, and that message was different, and that message was geared to the Gentiles.
God"s Reconciliation of Man, read more about it at http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.com...
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12/7/2015 1:45:08 PM
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At 12/7/2015 1:18:38 PM, newnature23 wrote:
Paul wants us to know how a person is saved. He wants us to understand the basis by which God provides eternal security, not only has provided the gift of salvation; but provides eternal security to all those who place their faith in what the sacrifice of his son accomplished. It is our faith in the accomplishment of Jesus Christ"s faithful sacrifice that is the means whereby God acknowledges that we have accepted the gift his son purchased.
WTF is paul? Can you supply any evidence that the jews sent people like saul to persecute and kill christians?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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12/7/2015 1:46:50 PM
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Paul was not killing Christians, should you be debating the Bible?
God"s Reconciliation of Man, read more about it at http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.com...
dee-em
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12/7/2015 11:46:53 PM
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At 12/7/2015 10:06:19 AM, newnature23 wrote:
God purchased the human race out of sins dominion, never to be returned to the market place of sin again. R32;

By removing the sin issue from the table of God"s justice, God effectively canceled Satan"s ownership of all the human race. Satan can lay claim to no person based on that persons sinfulness. It is a son issue, not a sin issue.

Prove it. (And I don't mean quote from scripture). You are talking about a snake oil cure with about equal efficacy. Treating a non-existent condition with a useless remedy.
dee-em
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12/7/2015 11:48:59 PM
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At 12/7/2015 1:12:34 PM, newnature23 wrote:
Not a sin issue, it is a son issue you must deal with.

Are you sure it is not a sun issue? Lol.
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12/7/2015 11:58:33 PM
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At 12/7/2015 10:38:55 AM, newnature23 wrote:
Justification is not a process, but is a one-time act, complete and definitive. God could only declare us to be right on the bases of who and what he is, not on the bases of who and what we would be apart from him.

God had to devise a way to see us that way, and the way he devised to do that was by joining us to, hiding us in our perfectly righteous savior, thus freely crediting to our account Christ righteousness. R32;

God is anxiously awaiting his own inheritance, which happens to be us, God considers believers to be his own inheritance, he purchased us with the blood of his son, we are God"s valuable inheritance. Grace!

Obviously you are extremely confused.
No creator, human or otherwise can inherit their own creation due to already owning it.
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12/8/2015 12:10:20 AM
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At 12/7/2015 1:18:38 PM, newnature23 wrote:
Paul wants us to know how a person is saved. He wants us to understand the basis by which God provides eternal security, not only has provided the gift of salvation; but provides eternal security to all those who place their faith in what the sacrifice of his son accomplished. It is our faith in the accomplishment of Jesus Christ"s faithful sacrifice that is the means whereby God acknowledges that we have accepted the gift his son purchased.

What exactly is this "gift" which "the son" purchased and gave to you?
Salvation, you say ?
Salvation from what exactly ?
Salvation from sin ?
Do you still sin or not?
If you do, in what way have you been saved from sin ?

Have all alcoholics been given the gift of sobriety and the power to be sober?
If so, why are they still alcoholics?

Simply believing someone gave you the gift to be sober and you therefore have the power to be sober does not make one sober as long as one continues to indulge in alcohol.

Go and sin no more.
Faith without works is dead.

Sinners claiming to be saved from sin are kidding themselves as long as they continue to sin.
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12/8/2015 12:55:46 AM
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The first characteristic of a self-righteous moralizer is arrogance. The guilty verdict that God has just declared upon the human race, do you think that you are going to escape that guilty verdict? Do you think for one moment that God is going to give you a non-wrath-worthy pass: that Christ need not have died for your sins; that your sins are of such a non-serious nature that you have no need of a Savior in the first place? R32;

God is going to see you as having no need of the saving work of his son. God"s attitude toward ALL ungodliness and unrighteousness of people is being revealed in scripture. People are guilty before God, he has decreed it. NO excuse will suffice to pardon it. It is such a shame that so many people today are trusting in their goodness to get them to heaven. Paul wants us to understand that there is no refuge in human goodness. Judgment based on a righteousness people can produce for themselves can only lead to one verdict, GUILTY.
God"s Reconciliation of Man, read more about it at http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.com...