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DPMartin
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12/8/2015 11:03:37 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
What stands between you and the wrath of God? And consequently should there be anything between you and God?
tstor
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12/8/2015 11:19:27 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/8/2015 11:03:37 PM, DPMartin wrote:
What stands between you and the wrath of God? And consequently should there be anything between you and God?
What do you mean by "between"? There is a mediator, the Christ.

1 Timothy 2:5, 6:
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all - this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time."
"The afternoon came down as imperceptibly as age comes to a happy man. A little gold entered into the sunlight. The bay became bluer and dimpled with shore-wind ripples. Those lonely fishermen who believe that the fish bite at high tide left their rocks, and their places were taken by others, who were convinced that the fish bite at low tide." (John Steinbeck; Tortilla Flat, 1935)
DPMartin
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12/9/2015 3:30:30 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/8/2015 11:19:27 PM, tstor wrote:
At 12/8/2015 11:03:37 PM, DPMartin wrote:
What stands between you and the wrath of God? And consequently should there be anything between you and God?
What do you mean by "between"? There is a mediator, the Christ.

1 Timothy 2:5, 6:
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all - this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time."

That"s so for those of us who know and follow the Lord Jesus Christ, but what about those who do not place their faith in Christ, and acknowledge Him? What stands between God"s wrath and men?
bulproof
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12/9/2015 3:33:01 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/8/2015 11:03:37 PM, DPMartin wrote:
What stands between you and the wrath of God? And consequently should there be anything between you and God?

The fact that gods don't exist and therefore have no wrath.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
Pollux
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12/9/2015 3:44:25 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/8/2015 11:03:37 PM, DPMartin wrote:
What stands between you and the wrath of God? And consequently should there be anything between you and God?

According to the bible, God is perfect love. According to the bible, perfect love casts out fear.

No atheist need ever fear God of the bible, because he is perfect love and he casts out all fear....if he does, in fact, exist.
JJ50
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12/9/2015 3:58:21 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/8/2015 11:03:37 PM, DPMartin wrote:
What stands between you and the wrath of God? And consequently should there be anything between you and God?

It is exists the deity has no business to have any wrath towards humans, as no one is as evil as the Bible portrays it to be!
PureX
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12/9/2015 4:42:58 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/8/2015 11:03:37 PM, DPMartin wrote:
What stands between you and the wrath of God? And consequently should there be anything between you and God?

I don't see much evidence to suggest that "God" is wrathful. In fact, via observations of the circumstances of reality, I might suspect that if anything, "God" is forgiving to a fault. Or at least indifferent. How else do we explain the Hitlers of the world?

You're asking a somewhat odd question in that you seem to be assuming that something IS standing between ourselves and 'God's wrath'. Yet by most definitions of "God", how could that even be so?
DPMartin
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12/9/2015 7:14:13 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/9/2015 3:44:25 PM, Pollux wrote:
At 12/8/2015 11:03:37 PM, DPMartin wrote:
What stands between you and the wrath of God? And consequently should there be anything between you and God?

According to the bible, God is perfect love. According to the bible, perfect love casts out fear.

No atheist need ever fear God of the bible, because he is perfect love and he casts out all fear....if he does, in fact, exist.

What Bible have you been reading? Jesus Himself, who is the object of God"s love to the world, addresses the issue directly.

Jn:3:36: He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

God"s wrath and anger is mentioned through out the Old and New Testaments in just about every book.
DPMartin
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12/9/2015 7:23:39 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/9/2015 3:33:01 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/8/2015 11:03:37 PM, DPMartin wrote:
What stands between you and the wrath of God? And consequently should there be anything between you and God?

The fact that gods don't exist and therefore have no wrath.

Na, your wrong there, gods exist, whether they are true gods or not. You can"t wipe out what mankind is in dire need of. Even if they make it up themselves.
DPMartin
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12/9/2015 7:24:52 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/9/2015 3:58:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/8/2015 11:03:37 PM, DPMartin wrote:
What stands between you and the wrath of God? And consequently should there be anything between you and God?

It is exists the deity has no business to have any wrath towards humans, as no one is as evil as the Bible portrays it to be!

Sorry, this one doesn"t seem to make sense.
Pollux
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12/9/2015 7:27:49 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/9/2015 7:14:13 PM, DPMartin wrote:
At 12/9/2015 3:44:25 PM, Pollux wrote:
At 12/8/2015 11:03:37 PM, DPMartin wrote:
What stands between you and the wrath of God? And consequently should there be anything between you and God?

According to the bible, God is perfect love. According to the bible, perfect love casts out fear.

No atheist need ever fear God of the bible, because he is perfect love and he casts out all fear....if he does, in fact, exist.

What Bible have you been reading? Jesus Himself, who is the object of God"s love to the world, addresses the issue directly.

Jn:3:36: He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

God"s wrath and anger is mentioned through out the Old and New Testaments in just about every book.

1st John 4 18.

Is God "perfect love" or not? Most Christians say he is.
Perfect love casts out fear. Thus no one, atheist, Muslim, or anything, need be afraid of God nor anything.

I'm an atheist who has no fear of biblegod because if he exists, HE, not me, eliminates fear FOR me.

Do you not agree with your bible?
DPMartin
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12/9/2015 7:36:17 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/9/2015 4:42:58 PM, PureX wrote:
At 12/8/2015 11:03:37 PM, DPMartin wrote:
What stands between you and the wrath of God? And consequently should there be anything between you and God?

I don't see much evidence to suggest that "God" is wrathful. In fact, via observations of the circumstances of reality, I might suspect that if anything, "God" is forgiving to a fault. Or at least indifferent. How else do we explain the Hitlers of the world?

You're asking a somewhat odd question in that you seem to be assuming that something IS standing between ourselves and 'God's wrath'. Yet by most definitions of "God", how could that even be so?

Well I"m talking about the Lord God of Israel in the name of Jesus Christ. Which god or gods are you talking about?
DPMartin
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12/11/2015 3:06:29 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/9/2015 7:27:49 PM, Pollux wrote:
Is God "perfect love" or not? Most Christians say he is.
Perfect love casts out fear. Thus no one, atheist, Muslim, or anything, need be afraid of God nor anything.

I'm an atheist who has no fear of biblegod because if he exists, HE, not me, eliminates fear FOR me.

Do you not agree with your bible?

No, the scripture doesn"t agree with your interpretation of what God"s love is, and who it"s toward. Besides this thread isn"t about your views on perfect love, and "perfect" in old school English is fulfilled or complete. Not love as you see it should be, which seems to be something else. His love is toward those who He knows love Him or will love Him, and those who hate Him receive what they have already.