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12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"
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12/12/2015 3:06:57 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Can you supply a list of atheist beliefs so that I can decide whether I doubt them or not? Thanks.
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12/12/2015 3:10:28 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 3:06:57 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Can you supply a list of atheist beliefs so that I can decide whether I doubt them or not? Thanks.

Atheism beliefs
1)God does not exis
2)God cannot exist
3)God is a myth
4)We were not "created"
5)God does not "love us"
6)When I die, that's it. I will cease to exist forever
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12/12/2015 3:13:28 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 3:10:28 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:06:57 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Can you supply a list of atheist beliefs so that I can decide whether I doubt them or not? Thanks.

Atheism beliefs
1)God does not exis
2)God cannot exist
3)God is a myth
4)We were not "created"
5)God does not "love us"
6)When I die, that's it. I will cease to exist forever
Atheism = Disbelief in gods.
Wanna try again?
GrittyWorm
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12/12/2015 3:16:02 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 3:13:28 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:10:28 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:06:57 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Can you supply a list of atheist beliefs so that I can decide whether I doubt them or not? Thanks.

Atheism beliefs
1)God does not exis
2)God cannot exist
3)God is a myth
4)We were not "created"
5)God does not "love us"
6)When I die, that's it. I will cease to exist forever
Atheism = Disbelief in gods.
Wanna try again?

That would be the obvious reason for the first question. Are you afraid of the question?
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12/12/2015 3:16:26 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
Posted: 47 minutes ago
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"
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12/12/2015 3:18:32 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 3:10:28 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:06:57 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Can you supply a list of atheist beliefs so that I can decide whether I doubt them or not? Thanks.

Atheism beliefs
1)God does not exis
2)God cannot exist
3)God is a myth
4)We were not "created"
5)God does not "love us"
6)When I die, that's it. I will cease to exist forever

Notice that the theist is incapable of understanding a world without their god, hence they are compelled to opine and question others from a default position of their gods existence being reality as opposed to what reality exhibits and demonstrates.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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12/12/2015 3:27:46 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 3:16:02 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:13:28 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:10:28 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:06:57 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Can you supply a list of atheist beliefs so that I can decide whether I doubt them or not? Thanks.

Atheism beliefs
1)God does not exis
2)God cannot exist
3)God is a myth
4)We were not "created"
5)God does not "love us"
6)When I die, that's it. I will cease to exist forever
Atheism = Disbelief in gods.
Wanna try again?

That would be the obvious reason for the first question. Are you afraid of the question?
Nothing at all to do with atheist beliefs that you have listed, your misunderstanding of atheism has been on NEON display since you arrived here.
I guess you don't want to try again to defend the nonsense of the title of this thread.
But if you do, then please give us the guffaws we expect.
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12/12/2015 3:34:26 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 3:16:26 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Posted: 47 minutes ago
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Do you ever look up for a moment from your Bible to think, maybe, just maybe, reality is indeed what you observe and not what you imagine it to be?
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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12/12/2015 3:40:36 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 3:06:57 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Can you supply a list of atheist beliefs so that I can decide whether I doubt them or not? Thanks.

There are no observations or justifications that support the contention "there is a God".

Harry.
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12/12/2015 4:06:02 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 3:34:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:16:26 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Posted: 47 minutes ago
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Do you ever look up for a moment from your Bible to think, maybe, just maybe, reality is indeed what you observe and not what you imagine it to be?

That's not an answer. You've avoided the question.
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12/12/2015 4:09:11 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Having once been a believer of the 'you must be 'saved' dogma, it is a great relief to have lost my faith.
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12/12/2015 4:14:04 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 3:10:28 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:06:57 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Can you supply a list of atheist beliefs so that I can decide whether I doubt them or not? Thanks.

Atheism beliefs
1)God does not exis
2)God cannot exist
3)God is a myth
4)We were not "created"
5)God does not "love us"
6)When I die, that's it. I will cease to exist forever

Nope. Only #6 is sort of accurate. The rest of those are not "beliefs" shared by atheists.

As to whether or not their might be a personal God, sure I sometimes wonder. But then I consider that I've investigated the matter logically for almost a decade and I can't find any gaps where a personal God might fit through.

Does that help?
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12/12/2015 4:30:04 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 3:18:32 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:10:28 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:06:57 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Can you supply a list of atheist beliefs so that I can decide whether I doubt them or not? Thanks.

Atheism beliefs
1)God does not exis
2)God cannot exist
3)God is a myth
4)We were not "created"
5)God does not "love us"
6)When I die, that's it. I will cease to exist forever

Notice that the theist is incapable of understanding a world without their god, hence they are compelled to opine and question others from a default position of their gods existence being reality as opposed to what reality exhibits and demonstrates.

I only see evasive questions. I take that as admission of doubt in your unbelief. Can you not imagine a reality with a creator?
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12/12/2015 4:32:02 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 3:27:46 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:16:02 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:13:28 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:10:28 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:06:57 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Can you supply a list of atheist beliefs so that I can decide whether I doubt them or not? Thanks.

Atheism beliefs
1)God does not exis
2)God cannot exist
3)God is a myth
4)We were not "created"
5)God does not "love us"
6)When I die, that's it. I will cease to exist forever
Atheism = Disbelief in gods.
Wanna try again?

That would be the obvious reason for the first question. Are you afraid of the question?
Nothing at all to do with atheist beliefs that you have listed, your misunderstanding of atheism has been on NEON display since you arrived here.
I guess you don't want to try again to defend the nonsense of the title of this thread.
But if you do, then please give us the guffaws we expect.

It's a simple question. All I see is you cowering from it. That is very telling.
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12/12/2015 4:37:18 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 4:09:11 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Having once been a believer of the 'you must be 'saved' dogma, it is a great relief to have lost my faith.

Are you mad at God? Why are you mad at him?
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12/12/2015 5:18:46 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

No I don't. Do you ever flinch and think "perhaps, but probably not....." or ask, "what if..." concerning what someone else might call God but you do not?

Ken
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12/12/2015 5:27:14 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 5:18:46 PM, ken1122 wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

No I don't. Do you ever flinch and think "perhaps, but probably not....." or ask, "what if..." concerning what someone else might call God but you do not?

Ken

I once debated an Atheist that told me and I quote,"If anyone tells you Theist or Atheist that they never have any doubts whatsoever, you have met a liar. Everyone is human, and no one knows everything. Anything is possible. Some things just seem highly unlikely based on your initial view."
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12/12/2015 5:40:34 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 4:37:18 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 4:09:11 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Having once been a believer of the 'you must be 'saved' dogma, it is a great relief to have lost my faith.

Are you mad at God? Why are you mad at him?

I don't believe it exists, however if it does and is as described in the Bible every decent human should hate it as it is evil to the core!
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12/12/2015 5:49:51 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 4:06:02 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:34:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/12/2015 3:16:26 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Posted: 47 minutes ago
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Do you ever look up for a moment from your Bible to think, maybe, just maybe, reality is indeed what you observe and not what you imagine it to be?

That's not an answer. You've avoided the question.

Au contraire, not only does it adequately answer the question, it shows just how childish the question is in light of reality and everything we understand about it.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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12/12/2015 5:51:29 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 4:37:18 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 4:09:11 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Having once been a believer of the 'you must be 'saved' dogma, it is a great relief to have lost my faith.

Are you mad at God? Why are you mad at him?

Notice how the believer invokes the existence of God as the default position, such that God is the elephant in the room.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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12/12/2015 5:56:46 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 5:51:29 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/12/2015 4:37:18 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 4:09:11 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Having once been a believer of the 'you must be 'saved' dogma, it is a great relief to have lost my faith.

Are you mad at God? Why are you mad at him?

Notice how the believer invokes the existence of God as the default position, such that God is the elephant in the room.

Notice how DR has made several posts, none of which answer the question. Sounds like DR is emotionally afraid to answer the question because they might have to show an act of being human and having emptions. I smell insecurity.
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12/12/2015 5:59:29 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
Therefore I will simply presume I am 100% correct till someone proves me wrong.

Notice the word "presume".
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12/12/2015 6:00:13 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
You see fear everywhere you look. You must be projecting.

Should I assume you are afraid of my posts because you haven't answered them?
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12/12/2015 6:40:47 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 5:56:46 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 5:51:29 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/12/2015 4:37:18 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 4:09:11 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Having once been a believer of the 'you must be 'saved' dogma, it is a great relief to have lost my faith.

Are you mad at God? Why are you mad at him?

Notice how the believer invokes the existence of God as the default position, such that God is the elephant in the room.

Notice how DR has made several posts, none of which answer the question. Sounds like DR is emotionally afraid to answer the question because they might have to show an act of being human and having emptions. I smell insecurity.

Yes, I understand your one-dimensional worldview is limited in capacity to synthesize and you must therefore believe that only fear could possibly keep one from engaging it.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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12/12/2015 6:58:09 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
Yes, I understand your one-dimensional worldview is limited in capacity to synthesize and you must therefore believe that only fear could possibly keep one from engaging it.
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12/12/2015 6:58:44 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 6:40:47 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/12/2015 5:56:46 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 5:51:29 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 12/12/2015 4:37:18 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/12/2015 4:09:11 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

Having once been a believer of the 'you must be 'saved' dogma, it is a great relief to have lost my faith.

Are you mad at God? Why are you mad at him?

Notice how the believer invokes the existence of God as the default position, such that God is the elephant in the room.

Notice how DR has made several posts, none of which answer the question. Sounds like DR is emotionally afraid to answer the question because they might have to show an act of being human and having emptions. I smell insecurity.

Yes, I understand your one-dimensional worldview is limited in capacity to synthesize and you must therefore believe that only fear could possibly keep one from engaging it.

Ditto
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12/12/2015 7:20:35 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 4:32:02 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
It's a simple question. All I see is you cowering from it. That is very telling.

Atheism is a nothing more than a lack of belief. Therefore labeling any belief as an "atheism belief" is a self contradictory and therefore incoherent statement. What you're doing is the equivalent of asking someone how much the color purple weighs, and then when they try to explain to you that your question makes no sense you accuse them of evading the question. Then even worse, you act like this strengthens your position. Well it doesn't, it only demonstrates clearly that you don't understand the topic you are discussing.
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12/12/2015 7:52:26 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

If there is a god, it is clear that the holy books are unlikely to be the work, or inspired work, of the being they are said to describe.
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12/12/2015 7:56:41 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 2:26:17 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Do you ever flinch and think,"perhaps, but probably not...", or ask,"what if..." concerning a creator? Or do you ever look up and if only for a brief moment think,"maybe?"

I'll bite.

Before I became an atheist, I was a Christian raised in a devout family. For a year after I became agnostic and leaned towards atheism, I did doubt my decisions. I was scared out of my mind that I made the wrong decision and God would hate me for it. But it eventually subsided and I became a content atheist. I resolved all of my indecision and firmly understood what I believed in. Every now and then just shortly after, the fear would still creep in, but it diminished just as quickly as it arrived. That was years ago, though. I don't doubt myself and my stance on the matter of God. I don't think I am wrong nor do I feel that sensation of fear on the "What if" question, because I don't ask it. I know where I am and I am certain that God does not exist. Thus, I don't ever have those thoughts and I don't doubt it.
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