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JJ50
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12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?
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12/18/2015 12:26:46 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
Not that I'm Christian or particularly care, but if the premise was true, I suspect it would be more clear in the original Greek, who tended to have particular words for the various types of "love." I suspect in this case it was likely philia, or familial/friendly love, or agape, the sort of fluffy love for all mankind and God's love and etc. that seems Jesusy.

So no, pretty sure Jesus wasn't gay. Interesting to hear whether Christians would care if he was though.
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12/18/2015 12:38:42 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

lol... so when it says God is love, you think God sexually loves everyone...

lol the lengths people will go to excuse their own perversions...
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12/18/2015 1:07:33 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?
To your first question. Yes, Jesus was gay.
JESUS WAS GAY, ACCORDING TO MARK JK & Professor Morton Smith*

http://jdstone.org...

If Christians accept homosexuality and the fact that Jesus was gay, it will help reduce the number of adulterous women from their congregations. Men will be free to love whomever they want and women can return to the kitchen to become better cooks. Just saying....
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12/18/2015 1:10:30 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 1:07:33 PM, Harikrish wrote:
To your first question. Yes, Jesus was gay.
JESUS WAS GAY, ACCORDING TO MARK JK & Professor Morton Smith*

http://jdstone.org...

Pretty sure this guy has been accused multiple times of fraud, including over the very documented cited within that page.

If Christians accept homosexuality and the fact that Jesus was gay, it will help reduce the number of adulterous women from their congregations. Men will be free to love whomever they want and women can return to the kitchen to become better cooks. Just saying....

Such a troll.
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12/18/2015 1:27:05 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 1:10:30 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 12/18/2015 1:07:33 PM, Harikrish wrote:
To your first question. Yes, Jesus was gay.
JESUS WAS GAY, ACCORDING TO MARK JK & Professor Morton Smith*

http://jdstone.org...

Pretty sure this guy has been accused multiple times of fraud, including over the very documented cited within that page.

If Christians accept homosexuality and the fact that Jesus was gay, it will help reduce the number of adulterous women from their congregations. Men will be free to love whomever they want and women can return to the kitchen to become better cooks. Just saying....

Such a troll.

Toronto is the gayest city in Canada.

Now explain why divorce rates are dropping in Canada. Canadians are eating better meals and there are less adulterous women as Canadian men choose more gay partners. Duh!!!
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12/18/2015 3:58:00 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 12:38:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

lol... so when it says God is love, you think God sexually loves everyone...

lol the lengths people will go to excuse their own perversions...

The deity was a pervert as he supposedly got a young girl pregnant. She would probably have been under the age of consent in today's society!
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12/18/2015 4:04:26 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

Jesus was as gay as Sebastien Flyte in Brideshead Revisited.
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12/18/2015 4:29:57 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 3:58:00 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/18/2015 12:38:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

lol... so when it says God is love, you think God sexually loves everyone...

lol the lengths people will go to excuse their own perversions...

The deity was a pervert as he supposedly got a young girl pregnant. She would probably have been under the age of consent in today's society!

really, I thought only the mormons believed God had sex with Mary..lol
JJ50
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12/18/2015 4:37:03 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 4:29:57 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/18/2015 3:58:00 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/18/2015 12:38:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

lol... so when it says God is love, you think God sexually loves everyone...

lol the lengths people will go to excuse their own perversions...

The deity was a pervert as he supposedly got a young girl pregnant. She would probably have been under the age of consent in today's society!

really, I thought only the mormons believed God had sex with Mary..lol

Of course I don't believe the deity, should it exist, had anything to do with Mary getting pregnant, she no doubt conceived in the usual when she had sex with Joseph or another guy. I suspect the crazy virgin birth story was concocted to mitigate the fact she was pregnant before she wed!
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12/18/2015 4:38:28 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 4:37:03 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/18/2015 4:29:57 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/18/2015 3:58:00 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/18/2015 12:38:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

lol... so when it says God is love, you think God sexually loves everyone...

lol the lengths people will go to excuse their own perversions...

The deity was a pervert as he supposedly got a young girl pregnant. She would probably have been under the age of consent in today's society!

really, I thought only the mormons believed God had sex with Mary..lol

Of course I don't believe the deity, should it exist, had anything to do with Mary getting pregnant, she no doubt conceived in the usual when she had sex with Joseph or another guy. I suspect the crazy virgin birth story was concocted to mitigate the fact she was pregnant before she wed!

well that's good no problem then...
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12/18/2015 4:57:05 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?
To answer the question of the OP.....no, Jesus was not gay. That reference to the disciple whom Jesus loved has nothing to do with homosexuality.

As far as whether or not it would make any difference with my faith, it would. However, the source would have to be strongly questioned in light of outside of biblical sources. Ironically, many seem to think the secular history of Jesus is so minute that nothing can be ultimately concluded about Him. That's the problem. The proof would have to come from an outside source because the Bible clearly states Jesus was without sin.
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12/18/2015 5:05:40 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 1:27:05 PM, Harikrish wrote:

Now explain why divorce rates are dropping in Canada.

Marriage rates have never been lower. No marriages, no divorces.

http://tinyurl.com...

Marriage as an institution is in a death spiral.
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12/18/2015 5:35:10 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

And what of Corinthians 6:9? or Leviticus 20:13 or Leviticus 18:22?

So Jesus did indeed define homosexuality as sinful, it was Christ - The "Logos" who spoke to humans all through the old testament period, it was not that father - there was no knowledge of the father until Christ revealed him when he spoke during the new testament era.

Consider John 1:1

"In the beginning was the Word [Logos], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made."

and John 1:14

"The Word [Logos] became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth"

The entity named "Father" and the entity named "Logos" are both part of the the God "Family". The "Logos" became flesh - a human being - and lived for a time among men.

The Father did not do any creating, did not create the earth, life, man etc it was the Logos, the Word who did this.

Genesis 1:26

"Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness" - these are a plural terms (us and our), two sentient beings participated in this decision, again proving there are two.

Many old and new testament passages say that people have seen God yet others say nobody has ever seen God, these are now easily reconciled because the entity termed "Father" has never been seen by any man, yet the entity termed Logos, Word has been seen. The Word, Logos is the spokesman for the God family, the entity who intercedes between man and God.

John 5:37

"And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form"

Exodus 24:9

"Then Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they saw God, and they ate and drank."

Is this not clear? Moses saw the "Word" member of the God family, the same Word later became flesh and lived among men until his crucifixion.

Christ revealed many things, salvation, forgiveness, eternal life and yes the Father, John 17: 26

"I have made you known to them"

See? Nobody knew of the Father, not Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, or any of the patriarchs yet they prayed and even spoke with God on many occasions. They were actually speaking with the Word (Who is also God), only centuries later did the Word reveal the Father who up until that time had been completely unknown to humanity.

So yes Jesus (The Word, Logos) did state that homosexuality is sinful.

Harry.
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12/18/2015 5:49:31 PM
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At 12/18/2015 5:35:10 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

And what of Corinthians 6:9? or Leviticus 20:13 or Leviticus 18:22?

So Jesus did indeed define homosexuality as sinful, it was Christ - The "Logos" who spoke to humans all through the old testament period, it was not that father - there was no knowledge of the father until Christ revealed him when he spoke during the new testament era.

Consider John 1:1

"In the beginning was the Word [Logos], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made."

and John 1:14

"The Word [Logos] became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth"

The entity named "Father" and the entity named "Logos" are both part of the the God "Family". The "Logos" became flesh - a human being - and lived for a time among men.

The Father did not do any creating, did not create the earth, life, man etc it was the Logos, the Word who did this.

John 1 are mostly John's words. You should follow what Jesus actually said. Get a red letter bible.

Genesis 1:26

"Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness" - these are a plural terms (us and our), two sentient beings participated in this decision, again proving there are two.

Many old and new testament passages say that people have seen God yet others say nobody has ever seen God, these are now easily reconciled because the entity termed "Father" has never been seen by any man, yet the entity termed Logos, Word has been seen. The Word, Logos is the spokesman for the God family, the entity who intercedes between man and God.

John 5:37

"And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form"

Exodus 24:9

"Then Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they saw God, and they ate and drank."

Is this not clear? Moses saw the "Word" member of the God family, the same Word later became flesh and lived among men until his crucifixion.

Christ revealed many things, salvation, forgiveness, eternal life and yes the Father, John 17: 26

"I have made you known to them"

See? Nobody knew of the Father, not Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, or any of the patriarchs yet they prayed and even spoke with God on many occasions. They were actually speaking with the Word (Who is also God), only centuries later did the Word reveal the Father who up until that time had been completely unknown to humanity.

So yes Jesus (The Word, Logos) did state that homosexuality is sinful.

Harry.

Those Who Saw God

Isaiah 6:1
Verse Concepts
In the year of King Uzziah's death I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, lofty and exalted, with the train of His robe filling the temple.

Isaiah 6:5
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Then I said, "Woe is me, for I am ruined! Because I am a man of unclean lips, And I live among a people of unclean lips; For my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts."

Psalm 63:2
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Thus I have seen You in the sanctuary, To see Your power and Your glory.

Job 42:5
Verse Concepts
"I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear; But now my eye sees You;

Amos 9:1
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I saw the Lord standing beside the altar, and He said, "Smite the capitals so that the thresholds will shake, And break them on the heads of them all! Then I will slay the rest of them with the sword; They will not have a fugitive who will flee, Or a refugee who will escape.

Genesis 16:13
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Then she called the name of the LORD who spoke to her, "You are a God who sees"; for she said, "Have I even remained alive here after seeing Him?"

Genesis 32:30
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So Jacob named the place Peniel, for he said, "I have seen God face to face, yet my life has been preserved."

Numbers 12:8
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With him I speak mouth to mouth, Even openly, and not in dark sayings, And he beholds the form of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid To speak against My servant, against Moses?"

Hebrews 11:27
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By faith he left Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king; for he endured, as seeing Him who is unseen.

Exodus 24:10
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and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself.

Exodus 24:11
Verse Concepts
Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they saw God, and they ate and drank.

Judges 6:22
Verse Concepts
When Gideon saw that he was the angel of the LORD, he said, "Alas, O Lord GOD! For now I have seen the angel of the LORD face to face."

Judges 13:22
Verse Concepts
So Manoah said to his wife, "We will surely die, for we have seen God."

Numbers 24:4
Verse Concepts
The oracle of him who hears the words of God, Who sees the vision of the Almighty, Falling down, yet having his eyes uncovered,

Matthew 18:10
Verse Concepts
"See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that their angels in heaven continually see the face of My Father who is in heaven.

John 6:46
Verse Concepts
"Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the One who is from God; He has seen the Father.

John 12:45
Verse Concepts
"He who sees Me sees the One who sent Me.

John 14:9
Verse Concepts
Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

John 14:7
Verse Concepts
"If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him."

John 15:24
Verse Concepts
"If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would not have sin; but now they have both seen and hated Me and My Father as well.
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12/19/2015 12:09:55 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

Response: The better question is, does a person who ask whether Jesus (RA) is gay mentally retarded? Not that there is something wrong with being retarded. It is normal.
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12/19/2015 12:38:39 PM
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At 12/19/2015 12:09:55 PM, Fatihah wrote:
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

Response: The better question is, does a person who ask whether Jesus (RA) is gay mentally retarded? Not that there is something wrong with being retarded. It is normal.

What is wrong with me asking if Jesus was gay, as it was stated in John's gospel that the guy had a disciple whom he loved?

Bringing mental disability into this and equating it with being gay is disgraceful as if there was something wrong with either. Do you have a relative who is mentally disabled? Our adopted son has Down's Syndrome he is a fantastic man! No one can help the skin they are in, gay, straight or mentally disabled.
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12/19/2015 12:53:03 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/19/2015 12:38:39 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/19/2015 12:09:55 PM, Fatihah wrote:
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

Response: The better question is, does a person who ask whether Jesus (RA) is gay mentally retarded? Not that there is something wrong with being retarded. It is normal.

What is wrong with me asking if Jesus was gay, as it was stated in John's gospel that the guy had a disciple whom he loved?

Bringing mental disability into this and equating it with being gay is disgraceful as if there was something wrong with either. Do you have a relative who is mentally disabled? Our adopted son has Down's Syndrome he is a fantastic man! No one can help the skin they are in, gay, straight or mentally disabled.

Response: What's wrong with asking whether such a question stems from retardation? Love does not mean gay, so equating the two is illogical. Therefore, putting to question the mental state of a person who asks such a question is significant. Similarly, saying a question about mental retardation is disgraceful is the disgrace. I never said it is wrong yet you calling it a disgrace implies that it is wrong according to you.
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12/19/2015 1:55:21 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/19/2015 12:53:03 PM, Fatihah wrote:
At 12/19/2015 12:38:39 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 12/19/2015 12:09:55 PM, Fatihah wrote:
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

Response: The better question is, does a person who ask whether Jesus (RA) is gay mentally retarded? Not that there is something wrong with being retarded. It is normal.

What is wrong with me asking if Jesus was gay, as it was stated in John's gospel that the guy had a disciple whom he loved?

Bringing mental disability into this and equating it with being gay is disgraceful as if there was something wrong with either. Do you have a relative who is mentally disabled? Our adopted son has Down's Syndrome he is a fantastic man! No one can help the skin they are in, gay, straight or mentally disabled.

Response: What's wrong with asking whether such a question stems from retardation? Love does not mean gay, so equating the two is illogical. Therefore, putting to question the mental state of a person who asks such a question is significant. Similarly, saying a question about mental retardation is disgraceful is the disgrace. I never said it is wrong yet you calling it a disgrace implies that it is wrong according to you.

What IS a disgrace is to say. like Fati does, that "children like sex".
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12/19/2015 3:12:49 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/18/2015 12:38:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 12/18/2015 12:09:21 PM, JJ50 wrote:
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

lol... so when it says God is love, you think God sexually loves everyone...

lol the lengths people will go to excuse their own perversions...

Can you give me a full list of what is perversions and not?